define the ideal husband.

[siyado]

way to go siyado...

the guys who keep on cheering on cheating ek ek and feel all happy about it are the ones who have never enjoyed a "real" and healthy reciprocating relationship where they have been taken cared of.

i agree 100% kreuk. it almost makes you feel sorry for them haha.

[siyado]

Are you turning the tables making it look like it's men's fault always?

There are women who risk marrying men who are prone to cheating and they risk it for money and security. In the first place they should know what they're getting into already. Now when they get cheated on, they plead for other people's sympathy? Style talaga ng mga babae.

Have you heard it in the news lately, on what happened to Chavit Singson and his wife?



Like what? divorce? man, in other countries, divorce laws and family laws favor the wives more and of course, the narrow minded people out there and the feminists always side with women on situations like that. Lugi parati ang lalaki diyan because of those d@mn sexist laws. Sometimes divorce isn't the smartest thing to do. This topic has already been thoroughly discussed in a lot of threads here.




Bad assumptions. Its because of people like you who think like that...that feminists are able to get anything they want these days. Oh well off topic.

I have a feeling this argument will just go around in circles again so I'll stop for the moment. I have said what I want to say here.

Nasa huli ang pagsisisi ika nga, its just up to women to wait till their husband's funeral and see if there will be "kabits" ang "anaks sa labas" who will be coming out. Masakit yun.... na you've realized you've been lied to all this time. Problema na nila yun.

i dislike feminists as much as you do. honestly, i think women today get too many advices about men from other women (many are man-haters) who don't know what they're talking about. but you're making way too many inaccurate generalizations. there are plenty of straight-headed girls out there but you're not going to see them if you have that preconceived notion tainting your perspective.

like i said, it's all about one's judgement. no one's forcing you to marry a feminist lol. if you didn't see this attitude coming from a woman you plan to marry, you definitely need to brush up on your people-reading skills.

[siyado]

i kinda get your point here. there are some things that women do which are not grounds for an annullment and what can a man do? A. i have talked to two women, both not bad looking who don't enjoy sex, they feel it is dirty. i can imagine the husband trying to make love to her, and she is there with a contorted face. can this marriage be annulled? i don't know, and would you if you were the husband? one husband even asked permission from the wife to fool around. and the wife felt offended.

now for all the men, would you cheat if your wife were like this?

B. i know of another case where the man was marrying his long time girlfriend who had doubled her waistline. and since he was filthy rich. even without marriage he gave his fiance a house and lot. when he would come home. his fiance would no longer greet him, but she would greet her father and dog when they would come. he wanted to cancel the wedding but was pressured by his parent(s) not to, nakakahiya raw. so they got married and on their wedding night they just both cried and told each other that it's over.

legally if the man screws around even with his wifes permission he still might be considered as a cheater.

so in your opinion, what bad things would a woman have to do that are so bad that you should ethically be allowed to cheat.

here are a number of possibilities
1. refusal to have sex with you
2. refusal to enjoy sex with you
3. gained weight, refuses to workout or diet
4. nagger
5. acts like she does not enjoy sex if your salary is not high enough
(a woman told me that some women do this)
6. others

A. why did the guy marry the girl?

B. still, why did the guy marry the girl?


in my opinion, those men should take responsibility for their own actions.

[rickym]

A. why did the guy marry the girl?

B. still, why did the guy marry the girl?


in my opinion, those men should take responsibility for their own actions.

a. i guess in both cases, both men and women did not like to engage in premarital sex.

b. under parental pressure.

both seem quite avoidable:

in a., just have premarital sex, in b. don't follow parental pressure.

but what about in cases where the woman or man for that matter has faked the whole the whole thing.

for example.
1. before marriage the man is hardworking, then during marriage he resigns, feigns stress and lets his wife do all the working.

2. before marriage the woman enjoys sex, during marriage, the woman always claims she has a headache, then during sex, she sleeps on him.

sometimes the grounds are such that an annulment is not possible. if that happens is it ethically allowable to cheat? i got around this by not getting committed period, but for those stuck in a relationship where their spouse has done a complete turnaround. what do you think they should do, should they cheat or should they just bear with it and wait till they die?

[Shakers]

In reality, all girls end up compromising their list and settle with what they have. I don't know any girls who have dated a lot of guys and then pick one that matched everything on their list. Even the prettiest and smartest girl I know ended up having maybe 2 or 3 boyfriends in their entire single life, then decide to compromise her list and marry the last guy she's dating because she's getting old.

How many times have you seen your highschool/college idol in a reunion, met their husband and said to yourself "that's who she ended up with?"

Half the girls I know got married because they got pregnant. Only a few married for love, the rest got married because the girl is getting old.

[siyado]

a. i guess in both cases, both men and women did not like to engage in premarital sex.

b. under parental pressure.

both seem quite avoidable:

in a., just have premarital sex, in b. don't follow parental pressure.

but what about in cases where the woman or man for that matter has faked the whole the whole thing.

for example.
1. before marriage the man is hardworking, then during marriage he resigns, feigns stress and lets his wife do all the working.

2. before marriage the woman enjoys sex, during marriage, the woman always claims she has a headache, then during sex, she sleeps on him.

sometimes the grounds are such that an annulment is not possible. if that happens is it ethically allowable to cheat? i got around this by not getting committed period, but for those stuck in a relationship where their spouse has done a complete turnaround. what do you think they should do, should they cheat or should they just bear with it and wait till they die?

on 1, neither. i think the woman should come up with a way to get her marriage annulled. that's what my mom did with my dad. she got him to sign the documents even when he didn't want to.

on 2, unlikely scenario, unless they're both in their 60s or something in which case i doubt the guy is any more sexually capable than the woman. but if that indeed is the case, if i were the guy, i'd tell my wife i'm gonna look for sex elsewhere. if she doesn't budge, well, what can i do?

[rickym]

Half the girls I know got married because they got pregnant. Only a few married for love, the rest got married because the girl is getting old.

if those figures are true then, why the hell should men get married. in both cases men are on the losing end.

[rickym]

honestly, i think women today get too many advices about men from other women (many are man-haters) who don't know what they're talking about.

i've noticed that too. if a woman wants to know why a man asks a certain way, she should ask a man. i've even talked to women who are players, and they don't know what they're talking about.

like some women think that the more a man showers you with gifts, the more he loves you. there was even this thread before on a woman being given money after a date. several thousand pesos. if a man does that, it's quite possible that she treats the woman as a prostitute whether or not they had sex.

and if a man has emotional feelings for a woman without lust. that is also not a sign of true love. people with diabetes do this all the time, it's just that they can not get a hard on. a lot of men can have emotional feelings even without actually caring for the person.

[prEttyNdisTress]

Mabait. Mayaman. Magaling sa Kama.

Pili ka lang ng dalawa.

mayaman..magaling sa kama....

pwede na!!!

[kreuk]

1. guys cannot live without girls
2. hence habol sila ng habol - bigay flowers, bigay ng gift, carry ng bags
3. guys are as EMO as girls are... ayaw lang nila aminin na emo sila
4. they wanna be loved and be cared for, cradled on a girl's lap.

who does the courting?!
who told guys to court?!
sino hindi gumamit ng condom?
who asks the marriage proposal?

para kayong mga bading. walang balls. complain ng complain na parang hindi nakinabang. achuchuchuchu...

tapos putak ng putak how limiting to be married is. napilitan daw... pero sino parin ang bumibili ng singsing (isang engagement at isang wedding band), nagpropose at nagpapaparty sa hotels.

para kayo mga girls... complain ng complain about a problem na kayo naman nagstage.

watever!!!!!!!!!!

[BigoteAtBalbas]

^ relax lang, dadami wrinkles mo nyan he he

[kreuk]

^^^ im a problem solver... i don't see how they are solving the issues...

[kreuk]

here is the orig alpha green post:

Wow you got some "suave" guy friends there. Must be exciting to be part of your barkada (no sarcasm in there, I really mean it). Cheating while his wife is pregnant? Man, he's got balls.

here is the converted alpha green post in a dilemma thread:

Wow i got some "suave" guy friends there. i thought it was exciting to be part of suave guy barkada (no sarcasm in there, I really mean it). so what i did was i cheated and ****.ed another girl while my wife is pregnant. Man, i got balls. my dilema is... im irritated with my wife. she thinks im suave. she should have known that suaveness is the brother of unfaithfulness.

[BigoteAtBalbas]

^^^ im a problem solver... i just don't get where the whining is coming from...

it's coming from alpha green

[Alpha_Green]

Hoy ****** na tabatchoy who thinks she looks like kristin kreuk, don't quote my posts and add things I didn't say. Napaghahalataan tuloy sino ang mas napipikon at apektado.

You guys are already off topic by the way. This thread was suppose to be normal flowing until one guy here started it because he feels he has the needs to defend women in online forums just because he has a beautiful and caring wife. Seriously man, not all women are like your wife. Get over with that assumption.

[siyado]

i've noticed that too. if a woman wants to know why a man asks a certain way, she should ask a man. i've even talked to women who are players, and they don't know what they're talking about.

like some women think that the more a man showers you with gifts, the more he loves you. there was even this thread before on a woman being given money after a date. several thousand pesos. if a man does that, it's quite possible that she treats the woman as a prostitute whether or not they had sex.

and if a man has emotional feelings for a woman without lust. that is also not a sign of true love. people with diabetes do this all the time, it's just that they can not get a hard on. a lot of men can have emotional feelings even without actually caring for the person.

that's ridiculous. talk about waking up and smelling the coffee.

[siyado]

1. guys cannot live without girls
2. hence habol sila ng habol - bigay flowers, bigay ng gift, carry ng bags
3. guys are as EMO as girls are... ayaw lang nila aminin na emo sila
4. they wanna be loved and be cared for, cradled on a girl's lap.

who does the courting?!
who told guys to court?!
sino hindi gumamit ng condom?
who asks the marriage proposal?

para kayong mga bading. walang balls. complain ng complain na parang hindi nakinabang. achuchuchuchu...

tapos putak ng putak how limiting to be married is. napilitan daw... pero sino parin ang bumibili ng singsing (isang engagement at isang wedding band), nagpropose at nagpapaparty sa hotels.

para kayo mga girls... complain ng complain about a problem na kayo naman nagstage.

watever!!!!!!!!!!

i agree with BigoteAtBalbas. baka pumangit ka niyan miss kreuk

im a problem solver... i don't see how they are solving the issues...

i think it has a lot to do with the general non-confrontational nature of pinoys. that sort of behavior leads to irrational responses to problems that could have been avoided easily in the first place. it's very unhealthy in my opinion.

last ot post

[siyado]

Hoy ****** na tabatchoy who thinks she looks like kristin kreuk, don't quote my posts and add things I didn't say. Napaghahalataan tuloy sino ang mas napipikon at apektado.

You guys are already off topic by the way. This thread was suppose to be normal flowing until one guy here started it because he feels he has the needs to defend women in online forums just because he has a beautiful and caring wife. Seriously man, not all women are like your wife. Get over with that assumption.

dude, i seriously think they're just laughing at you. but what do i know?

and, yes, indeed my girlfriend (not wife, yet ) is caring and beautiful

[darmonx]

Eto nalang dun sa mga ayaw ng cheaters..

There really only two guys you need to avoid.

Panget. They always have something to prove. They will go after girls like there is no tomorrow and impregnate as many as possible.

Mayaman. Kahit hindi sila nanghahabol. May manghahabol sa kanila. There are a bunch of women out there who's sole purpose in life is to find the richest man possible. They are usually young, very pretty, very sexy, and know how to get your man and make them theirs.

Avoid those two at mataas ang chance na hindi magiging cheater yung lalake mo.

[siyado]

^good points.

i know this guy who's rich but not a cheater. then again, he's a born again christian so he might be an exception.