Low carb/Zone/Anabolic/Cyclical Keto/Paleo diets and results

[Zeantick]

That's already 150g carbs right there. Depending on what diet you're on, that might be too much. Most low-carb diets restrict carbs to around 100g or less. Around 50g carbs or less would be a ketogenic diet.



I would recommend you DO NOT INTRODUCE A DEFICIT for now. Wait until you have adapted to the diet. This may take 2-4 weeks.



What about your protein?

If you're getting hungry soon after your meals, it's usually an indication you didn't get enough protein and fat in your meal.

What were you eating along with the rice? If it's something like tofu, a half-cup of tofu only has around 10g protein. In comparison the delicious ribeye steak I had for lunch and the tub of cottage cheese I had for dessert had around 75g of protein, total.

To be entirely honest, I highly doubt you will be successful at this. It may be possible to do AD/Paleo/low-carb without meat or animal products, but the odds are not in your favor.

Sir, my diet is like... reduce all intake. Haha. Just learned about this method yesterday >.<. I already started the reduce intake last sunday, trying to see my progress this coming sunday.

Eating only vegetables with vegetarian meat. Mostly 2-3 hours after meals would feel the hunger, which I think is normal since veggies breakdown fast.

IF, not introducing the calorie deficit, since i calculated the TEE on sedentary, I think i can add the MWF jog/run exercises without increasing my daily calorie requirements. Need to overcome introvert attitude so I can run/jog in the streets hahaha

Unsuccessful? Was already planning my meal next week hahaha. I read somewhere here someone put most of his/her protein and fat from eggs =D Won't it be applicable to me?

[siyado]

Should I start on a keto diet, I'll have to reduce carbs to 30-50g per day, then for proteins is 1 g per lb lean body weight (searched google and tried almost 3 different calculators, gave me an estimate of 27-29% body fat) then rest is fat sources.

Question:
1. Can I already introduce a 500 calorie deficit from my total energy expenditure? ( 2800 - 500) planning to start keto diet on monday.
2. Right now, feel hungry, sometimes stomach sounds, after 2-3 hours after meals. What I did is just drink about 300mL water and just wait for the next meal. Am I doing it right? Or do I need snacks in between and just reduce the carbs from rice. The hungry times won't budge my will power =D. 4th day today, no snacks =D. Meals still not more than 1 cup of rice.

Just badly need to lose those fats. Fed up always bringing these extra baggage =D

1. no, you don't need to do a keto diet if you don't want to. i'm personally partial against it because i like eating carbs if you're not doing keto, yes you can start with the 500 cal deficit anytime you want. do take note that the figures you computed with the formulas you used are merely best estimations. you're probably gonna need to adjust your calories more or less to achieve your exact desired effect. if keto, there's usually a 2 week initial period where you should just eat until you're full. your body is going to be making adjustments and you will definitely feel the negative effects until you're fully adjusted.

2. your meal timings are completely up to your personal preference. eat whenever and whatever you want, just make sure you hit your calories and macros. play around with your eating plan till you find one that works the best for you.

edit: and yeah, as per brianpex's post above, keto just seems like a really bad idea on a vegetarian diet. i can't even imagine doing that myself.

[Zeantick]

1. no, you don't need to do a keto diet if you don't want to. i'm personally partial against it because i like eating carbs if you're not doing keto, yes you can start with the 500 cal deficit anytime you want. do take note that the figures you computed with the formulas you used are merely best estimations. you're probably gonna need to adjust your calories more or less to achieve your exact desired effect. if keto, there's usually a 2 week initial period where you should just eat until you're full. your body is going to be making adjustments and you will definitely feel the negative effects until you're fully adjusted.

2. your meal timings are completely up to your personal preference. eat whenever and whatever you want, just make sure you hit your calories and macros. play around with your eating plan till you find one that works the best for you.

Was planning to start a keto diet. Since most of the problems it attacks are in me: FATS =D.
Question: Will i benefit more from a keto diet even though my exercises are limited to cardio ( plan to do that funny video exercise per day and to add run/jog MWF) per week? Or is weight lifting a partner of keto diet? Although i read someone posted that he lose 8 lbs in a month, without physical activity.

[brianpex]

Vegetable meat isn't meat. The BCAA profile of textured vegetable protein is either incomplete, or sub-optimal compared to animal meat. Research the biological value and net protein utilization for vegetable proteins versus meat.

Eggs are fine, I eat a couple of eggs for breakfast every day. But they only have 6-7g protein. You'd need to eat a dozen to equal the steak/cheese I had for lunch.

[siyado]

^^ what makes you lose fat is actually the deficit in calories. what you eat vs the calories you spend. doesn't matter if it's keto or not. weightlifting and cardio both burn calories. i am partial to weightlifting for different reasons

[Zeantick]

Vegetable meat isn't meat. The BCAA profile of textured vegetable protein is either incomplete, or sub-optimal compared to animal meat. Research the biological value and net protein utilization for vegetable proteins versus meat.

Eggs are fine, I eat a couple of eggs for breakfast every day. But they only have 6-7g protein. You'd need to eat a dozen to equal the steak/cheese I had for lunch.

Yes sir. That's why I need to scout those veg resto selling soy meat with nutritional content. Wikipedia states, eggs, boiled, 100g, have 12.6 proteins and 10.6 fats. What site are you using to check nutritional labels? Thanks

Plans are:
Avocado, Shitake mushroom, eggs, tofu, vegetable oils, almond, and soya products (must carefully check their label though, because most of them are high in carbs).

[brianpex]

An egg weighs roughly 50g, so that makes sense. Boiling an egg doesn't significantly change how much it weighs.

I'm gotten pretty good at estimating portion sizes.

If you do that silly hand waving "exercise", please do take a video.

If you take a video and post it to youtube, I'll send you a bunch of strength training and diet e-books and videos.

[Zeantick]

An egg weighs roughly 50g, so that makes sense. Boiling an egg doesn't change how much it weighs.

I'm gotten pretty good at estimating portion sizes.

If you do that silly hand waving "exercise", please do take a video.

Am also planning to add beans/legumes. And peanut butter. Omelets =D I need to be creative hahaha. My mom teached me how to cook so I need to imagine more. i also read protein drinks mixed with eggs good too. So hit SM this weekend to browse Healthy options/GNC haha

Offtopic: Why silly? I THINK? I'm burning calories there. And I did it earlier, twice And I'm doing it tomorrow, if ever no sore part tomorrow morning. Can't do push-ups and other hard calis, body is TOO heavy

Honestly, what is wrong with the video exercise? The performers? Or the routine per se? Any idea how much Calories i burn there during 1 whole session ( +/- 10 mins)

Regarding the posting of vid... I'll think have to think it thoroughly (maybe 100x) after I achieved my target weight: 155-160 lbs.

Addendum: Can send me those ebooks now? Then I'll offer a 50 % slash regarding thinking times ( 100x - 50x)

[rekscreamo]

Hey Brian and null_phreaker wassup guys? Still on AD?

[brianpex]

Hey Brian and null_phreaker wassup guys? Still on AD?

Hey man. Yup I'm on AD. Was on beach holiday over the weekend so I'm carbed up good. Breakfast and lunch today is 3.5 cups all-beef chili (no beans) my brother made yesterday.

[brianpex]

Am also planning to add beans/legumes. And peanut butter. Omelets =D I need to be creative hahaha. My mom teached me how to cook so I need to imagine more. i also read protein drinks mixed with eggs good too. So hit SM this weekend to browse Healthy options/GNC haha

Don't go to Healthy Options/GNC. They are overpriced. Cash and Carry is where most serious trainees get their supplements.

Read up on Mike Mahler. He's a strong dude and he's vegan. He outlines his dietary approach here. Note that he specifically recommends against meat substitutes (vege meat), soy, and wheat gluten.

Offtopic: Why silly? I THINK? I'm burning calories there. And I did it earlier, twice And I'm doing it tomorrow, if ever no sore part tomorrow morning. Can't do push-ups and other hard calis, body is TOO heavy

Honestly, what is wrong with the video exercise? The performers? Or the routine per se? Any idea how much Calories i burn there during 1 whole session ( +/- 10 mins)

Let's not discuss exercise/training in this thread. There is a proper thread for that. Suffice it to say that if you can't do a proper pushup it's not that your body is too heavy, it's because you're too weak. Those hand waving exercises won't make you stronger. Follow the example of bearcomplex who went from squatting 75lbs to 280lbs, benching 60lbs to 160lbs in three months. He was basically as weak as you starting out and is now probably stronger than most guys in the gym.

[eterugenius]

2 months on CKD here.

First three weeks on keto I lost 8 lbs. Tapos I did my first carb-up after my third week where I gained 2-3 lbs back.

So far I'm enjoying it, not just the food I eat but also with the energy. Strength and lifts obviously increased.

[eterugenius]

By the way, how do you cook your beef? Before kasi I would usually go for ground beef pero last week I tried ribeye. Fried it pero matigas siya. Nangunguya naman kaya lang not the tenderness I want. I do leave it till room temp naman before frying.

[brianpex]

By the way, how do you cook your beef? Before kasi I would usually go for ground beef pero last week I tried ribeye. Fried it pero matigas siya. Nangunguya naman kaya lang not the tenderness I want. I do leave it till room temp naman before frying.

Hi, thanks for resurrecting the thread.

Ground beef I just make into chili con carne. I really like this recipe (http://www.food.com/recipe/low-carb-chili-67654) but sometimes I just use the instant chili con carne mix from McCormick.

Ribyes should make a good steak. You overcooked it kaya matigas. I only cook mine 1:30 each side, sometimes less if the cut is thin.

[eterugenius]

Hi, thanks for resurrecting the thread.

Ground beef I just make into chili con carne. I really like this recipe (http://www.food.com/recipe/low-carb-chili-67654) but sometimes I just use the instant chili con carne mix from McCormick.

Ribyes should make a good steak. You overcooked it kaya matigas. I only cook mine 1:30 each side, sometimes less if the cut is thin.

I was so depressed no one's answered by post last week. Haha. Thanks for replying

1:30 lang? Although I flip it every minute, I usually cook it for 5 mins. Try ko nga later yan. Dinner ko kasi ang beef + broccoli everyday.

Will also try your recipe one of these days, nakita ko nga yan in the earlier pages of this thread. Mukhang masarap. Aalisin ko lang siguro yung mga dapat alisin plus babawasan ang spices kasi di ko rin masyado hilig ang spicy foods.

[loc0]

2 months on keto here. I'm down 20lbs, including 2 weeks of having to eat "normally" while out of the country (gained ~4lbs each week).

A few years ago, simply cutting down on intake took me 3-4 months to lose 25lbs. Now I crossed the mark from overweight to normal

[benjobb]

2 months on keto here. I'm down 20lbs, including 2 weeks of having to eat "normally" while out of the country (gained ~4lbs each week).

A few years ago, simply cutting down on intake took me 3-4 months to lose 25lbs. Now I crossed the mark from overweight to normal

Keto can be great for some people, especially those with medical conditions that need it. But 20 pounds in 2 months might be a little too fast, you probably lost lots of muscle too. But congratulations regardless on your transformation!

[tanjol]

20lbs for 2 months is more of starving yourself and its common to have rebound weight gain.. just my 2 cents..

[tanjol]

Another thing.. Dont base your weight on BMI.. base it on the way you look

[brianpex]

LOLs you guys

20lbs in 2 months is probably fine. It's just 2lb/week.

I think he was a bit of a chubster to begin with.