Naiinis ka ba sa mga naka-Motor?

[marui63t]

pag may naka motor ako na kasalubong na naka H.I.D-like na head lamp, tapos lilpat dun sa lane ko kasi mag overtake siya, ginagawa ko is bright yung ilaw then laro kami ng "chicken" haha ang ta-tapang kasi sa kalsada kala mo kung sino.

ginagawa ko rin yan, minsan nga may pinatalon talaga ko sa bangketa

pero hindi lang naman mga nakamotor ang nakakainis sa kalye, meron din mga naka kotse na ungas din magmaneho. almost the same din ng dami ang mga hindi marunong mag motor at hindi marunong magmaneho ng maayos.

[caffeine_kittie]

ako sumiingit ako pag traffic, pero i make sure na di ko naman tatamaan kotse, syempre ayoko rin maka-gasgas...magastos yun.

ang mean naman ng iba kung i-treat yung mga naka-motor.
pag ako kaya dumaan sa gilid nyo ganun din kaya gagawin nyo?
pumapatol ba kayo sa lady drivers?
di ko kayo masisisi....honestly andaaaaaaami talagang pasaway na motorists...wala pa helmet yung iba, akala mo bakal ang mga ulo.
tsk tsk tsk. pagpasensyahan na lang, di naman pwede ipahuli pag sumingit singit, dba?

uy, may mayabang dyan...may pambili lang kasi ng kotse kaya kung makapagsalita sa may motor, alam ko mura lang motor ko kumpara sa kotse nyo...(whistles)

ke cage driver ka pa o motor, pag oras mo na, kahit de kotse ka pa, kung oras mo na oras mo na. let's all pray for our safety na lang po

*pis po*

[Sh3rwin]

ako sumiingit ako pag traffic, pero i make sure na di ko naman tatamaan kotse, syempre ayoko rin maka-gasgas...magastos yun.

ang mean naman ng iba kung i-treat yung mga naka-motor.
pag ako kaya dumaan sa gilid nyo ganun din kaya gagawin nyo?
pumapatol ba kayo sa lady drivers?
di ko kayo masisisi....honestly andaaaaaaami talagang pasaway na motorists...wala pa helmet yung iba, akala mo bakal ang mga ulo.
tsk tsk tsk. pagpasensyahan na lang, di naman pwede ipahuli pag sumingit singit, dba?

uy, may mayabang dyan...may pambili lang kasi ng kotse kaya kung makapagsalita sa may motor, alam ko mura lang motor ko kumpara sa kotse nyo...(whistles)

ke cage driver ka pa o motor, pag oras mo na, kahit de kotse ka pa, kung oras mo na oras mo na. let's all pray for our safety na lang po

*pis po*

Hi Ate,

Naiinis po ako sa mga motor hindi dahil mura lang yan, wala pong basehan ang presyo... Oo parehong may mga g*g*, motor man o kotse, pero kasi ang pinagkaiba, kapag motor ang nakabangga ng ngaka kotse, kahit kasalanan ni motor, talo si naka kotse, unlike pagpareho kayong kotse, patas ang laban. Kaya mas nakakainis ang mga motor na g*g* sila na di maingat, sila pa yung kakaawaan at parang laging argabyado.

Meron ako kakilala, nabanga siya sa likod ng nakamotor, sa likod ah, dahil lasing at overspeeding pa yung motor. tapos siya pa ang kinasuhan, ok noh... nung nagkamalay yung nakamotor, imbis na nagsorry, nagdemand pa na paayos yung motor nila, ang mga pulis naman kampi sa nakamotor, kesyo mahirap daw at walang pangpa-gawa... yan ang example na sinasabi kong di patas ang laban...

[caffeine_kittie]

huh? kumampi pa yung pulis sa naka motor na lasing? that's BS!

Lam mo, kami din namang naka motor eh - bad trip sa kapwa nagmomotor na OA na sumingit at ang angas magmaneho. there were times na pareho na kaming motor, sisingitan pa ko sa harap - amf!
sa totoo lang, nakakatakot nga kayo dikitan mga kotse, kasi ang mahal ninyo ipagawa...hehe.

sana kasi magkaroon na ng motorcycle lane...nakakapagod din kasi sumingit lalo na sa Buenja fly over tuwing umaga...hihi

[Sh3rwin]

huh? kumampi pa yung pulis sa naka motor na lasing? that's BS!

walang BS, kapag nasaktan ang nakamotor, kakampi niya halos lahat, kaawaan ng lahat, media at pulis. kung siguro di siya nasaktan, titirahin at kokotongan pa ng mga pulis...

nasa tao na din kasi na nagpapadala sa awa, kung ikaw ba naman makakita ng nagbangaan motor at kotse, yung nakamotor, duguan nasa kalsada, samanthalang yung nakakotse walang galos, yung sympathya mo mapupunta talaga sa nakamotor.

Yung nangyari sa kakilala ko, di pa daw pwede magrelease ng pulis report yung pulis kapag hindi pa nainterview both sides, so hinantay pa magkamalay yung nakamotor at una pang kinuhaan ng statement yung nakamotor kaysa sa naka kotse.

Lam mo, kami din namang naka motor eh - bad trip sa kapwa nagmomotor na OA na sumingit at ang angas magmaneho. there were times na pareho na kaming motor, sisingitan pa ko sa harap - amf!
sa totoo lang, nakakatakot nga kayo dikitan mga kotse, kasi ang mahal ninyo ipagawa...hehe.

Mas mahal ipagawa ang nakamotor, kasi kayo, kotse lang namin ipapagawa niyo, pagkayo ang nasabitan namin, motor at tao ipapagawa... hospitalization palang ang mahal na, at kung mapasama pa, makukulong pa ang naka kotse.

sana kasi magkaroon na ng motorcycle lane...nakakapagod din kasi sumingit lalo na sa Buenja fly over tuwing umaga...hihi

Ito talaga ang pinakamagandang solution.

[caffeine_kittie]

^ oo nga...kasi kasama yung pagpapa hospital sa tao if naka bangga nyo. kasalanan nyo man o hindi..sa inyo ipapa-sagot ang lahat.

[Sh3rwin]

^ oo nga...kasi kasama yung pagpapa hospital sa tao if naka bangga nyo. kasalanan nyo man o hindi..sa inyo ipapa-sagot ang lahat.

saka consensiya na din kasi yun kung makasakit or worse makapatay ka. kahit kasalanan pa nung nagmomotor o hindi.

[RetroManila]

walang BS, kapag nasaktan ang nakamotor, kakampi niya halos lahat, kaawaan ng lahat, media at pulis. kung siguro di siya nasaktan, titirahin at kokotongan pa ng mga pulis...

nasa tao na din kasi na nagpapadala sa awa, kung ikaw ba naman makakita ng nagbangaan motor at kotse, yung nakamotor, duguan nasa kalsada, samanthalang yung nakakotse walang galos, yung sympathya mo mapupunta talaga sa nakamotor.

Yung nangyari sa kakilala ko, di pa daw pwede magrelease ng pulis report yung pulis kapag hindi pa nainterview both sides, so hinantay pa magkamalay yung nakamotor at una pang kinuhaan ng statement yung nakamotor kaysa sa naka kotse.


Mas mahal ipagawa ang nakamotor, kasi kayo, kotse lang namin ipapagawa niyo, pagkayo ang nasabitan namin, motor at tao ipapagawa... hospitalization palang ang mahal na, at kung mapasama pa, makukulong pa ang naka kotse.



Ito talaga ang pinakamagandang solution.

I find this hard to believe though. Sa mga check point na lang, sino ang pinag iinitan ng pulis? Yung mga nakamotor. (Kesyo ang mga kriminal nakamotor. Pero yung mga nakavan, kidnapper. At yung mga naka 10 year old tinted Corolla/Nissan, holdaper ng bangko. Pero teka, sila di pinapahinto.)

I see where you're coming from. And I'm looking at this as a car driver and a motorcycle rider. Medyo mas madali makakuha ng simpatya ang nakamotor sa isang aksidente kasi mas madali silang mamatay kesa sa mga nakakotse. Pero tulad nga ng sinabi ng isa rito, protektado tayo ng oto natin. Sila, isang paa nila nasa hukay na kapag nagmomotor sila. I've had bad accidents driving cars. Pero none of these had led even to a bruise. I can't bring myself to hate them kasi ang katwiran ko, nasa tao pa rin talaga yan.

Buti pa yung isa rito, mga naka Fortuner ang kinaiinisan.

[Papichulo168]

^ ??? *looks for evodesire*

Anyway, I think the reason cagers (car drivers) are p!ssed at motorcycle riders is not because we are not disciplined, they are p!ssed because they see us weaving in and out of traffic catching them by surprise and ruining their momentum. It also doesn't help watching motorcycle riders going through traffic while car drivers sit helplessly stuck in traffic.

I should know because I was a car driver first before I became a motorcycle rider. I even hit a motorcycle rider (Honda Wave) in Jupiter and shelled out P4,000 to settle damages on the spot. But I really can't put into words the joy of riding a motorcycle. It's the feeling of freedom, control and invicibility all at the same time. It's just like a narcotic.

And you know what type of car driver that will take to motorcycles instantly on their first try? The car driver who hates being stuck in traffic and would rather take a circuitous and longer route just to avoid being stuck in traffic. They don't like the feeling of helplessness and immobility. Ganon ako pag nag dra-drive ng oto, hindi ako mapakali pag naipit sa traffic, kaya kabisado ko na mga pasikot sikot dito sa Metro Manila eh.

And now I enjoy the best of both worlds. I can't believe how much time I've wasted driving a car to city destinations. Time wasted in traffic and looking for parking space eat up 30 minutes for every hour of driving.

Of course there is always the danger riding motorcycles but it's always a calculated risk everytime you hop on your motorcycle. It's the same danger that car drivers face when they drive side by side with buses and trucks but I don't think car drivers were ever stopped by the fear of driving alongside buses and trucks right?

[mazdamazda]

Motorcycle riders in general??? Nope. They generally have the same right as car drivers. (and I still want to own one someday)

I don't mind if they lane split at times (especially when the traffic is heavy), I usually even move to the edge of my lane to allow them to pass unmolested.

What pisses me off is when they go too fast (while lane splitting), not giving other drivers reasonable time to see them. Or if they overtake too dangerously.

[RetroManila]

^ ??? *looks for evodesire*

Anyway, I think the reason cagers (car drivers) are p!ssed at motorcycle riders is not because we are not disciplined, they are p!ssed because they see us weaving in and out of traffic catching them by surprise and ruining their momentum. It also doesn't help watching motorcycle riders going through traffic while car drivers sit helplessly stuck in traffic.

I should know because I was a car driver first before I became a motorcycle rider. I even hit a motorcycle rider (Honda Wave) in Jupiter and shelled out P4,000 to settle damages on the spot. But I really can't put into words the joy of riding a motorcycle. It's the feeling of freedom, control and invicibility all at the same time. It's just like a narcotic.

And you know what type of car driver that will take to motorcycles instantly on their first try? The car driver who hates being stuck in traffic and would rather take a circuitous and longer route just to avoid being stuck in traffic. They don't like the feeling of helplessness and immobility. Ganon ako pag nag dra-drive ng oto, hindi ako mapakali pag naipit sa traffic, kaya kabisado ko na mga pasikot sikot dito sa Metro Manila eh.

And now I enjoy the best of both worlds. I can't believe how much time I've wasted driving a car to city destinations. Time wasted in traffic and looking for parking space eat up 30 minutes for every hour of driving.

Of course there is always the danger riding motorcycles but it's always a calculated risk everytime you hop on your motorcycle. It's the same danger that car drivers face when they drive side by side with buses and trucks but I don't think car drivers were ever stopped by the fear of driving alongside buses and trucks right?

Retro Manila in a car from Fairview to Makati during rush hours: 1 and 1/2 to 2 hours.

Retro Manila on a retro scooter from Fairview to Makati during rush hours: 40 minutes. On a bad day, 1 hour.

And I am a responsible rider. I split lanes. Oh I love splitting lanes. But then again, I do it with care and I make sure other motorists are not gonna be bothered in any way.

I simply just stay out of way.

If you guys are pissed at motorcycle riders, maybe you should try riding a bike.

[virtuoso]

I should know because I was a car driver first before I became a motorcycle rider. I even hit a motorcycle rider (Honda Wave) in Jupiter and shelled out P4,000 to settle damages on the spot. But I really can't put into words the joy of riding a motorcycle. It's the feeling of freedom, control and invicibility all at the same time. It's just like a narcotic.

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[Sh3rwin]

I find this hard to believe though. Sa mga check point na lang, sino ang pinag iinitan ng pulis? Yung mga nakamotor. (Kesyo ang mga kriminal nakamotor. Pero yung mga nakavan, kidnapper. At yung mga naka 10 year old tinted Corolla/Nissan, holdaper ng bangko. Pero teka, sila di pinapahinto.)

I see where you're coming from. And I'm looking at this as a car driver and a motorcycle rider. Medyo mas madali makakuha ng simpatya ang nakamotor sa isang aksidente kasi mas madali silang mamatay kesa sa mga nakakotse. Pero tulad nga ng sinabi ng isa rito, protektado tayo ng oto natin. Sila, isang paa nila nasa hukay na kapag nagmomotor sila. I've had bad accidents driving cars. Pero none of these had led even to a bruise. I can't bring myself to hate them kasi ang katwiran ko, nasa tao pa rin talaga yan.

Buti pa yung isa rito, mga naka Fortuner ang kinaiinisan.

ang labo ah, pareho lang tayo ng sinabi tapos sabi mo "I find this hard to believe"... ang sinasabi ko kasi dun, kapag naaccidenta yung nakamotor mas kinakampihan sila ng pulis... nistate ko pa nga na kung siguro di nasaktan yung lasing na nagmomotor kokotongan pa siya ng pulis diba?

[Sh3rwin]

^ ??? *looks for evodesire*

Anyway, I think the reason cagers (car drivers) are p!ssed at motorcycle riders is not because we are not disciplined, they are p!ssed because they see us weaving in and out of traffic catching them by surprise and ruining their momentum. It also doesn't help watching motorcycle riders going through traffic while car drivers sit helplessly stuck in traffic.

I should know because I was a car driver first before I became a motorcycle rider. I even hit a motorcycle rider (Honda Wave) in Jupiter and shelled out P4,000 to settle damages on the spot. But I really can't put into words the joy of riding a motorcycle. It's the feeling of freedom, control and invicibility all at the same time. It's just like a narcotic.

And you know what type of car driver that will take to motorcycles instantly on their first try? The car driver who hates being stuck in traffic and would rather take a circuitous and longer route just to avoid being stuck in traffic. They don't like the feeling of helplessness and immobility. Ganon ako pag nag dra-drive ng oto, hindi ako mapakali pag naipit sa traffic, kaya kabisado ko na mga pasikot sikot dito sa Metro Manila eh.

And now I enjoy the best of both worlds. I can't believe how much time I've wasted driving a car to city destinations. Time wasted in traffic and looking for parking space eat up 30 minutes for every hour of driving.

Of course there is always the danger riding motorcycles but it's always a calculated risk everytime you hop on your motorcycle. It's the same danger that car drivers face when they drive side by side with buses and trucks but I don't think car drivers were ever stopped by the fear of driving alongside buses and trucks right?

Thats one possibility why cagers hate motorcyle. But then again... I don't hate motorcycle who split lanes when I'm stuck in traffic, I hate those who split lane carelessly why I'm on the move, ito kasi yung delikado. I hate them for putting their lives in danger, kasi sabi ko nga ako din ang talo, sinu ba gagastos... If the law is not unfair(kung sino may kasalanan siya magbayad, kung wala kang kasalanan di mo sasagutin yung paospital or kung anu man), then wala ko problem sa mga nakamotor.

[RetroManila]

ang labo ah, pareho lang tayo ng sinabi tapos sabi mo "I find this hard to believe"... ang sinasabi ko kasi dun, kapag naaccidenta yung nakamotor mas kinakampihan sila ng pulis... nistate ko pa nga na kung siguro di nasaktan yung lasing na nagmomotor kokotongan pa siya ng pulis diba?

In a way, I was contradicting your statement. Yes, the motorcycle riders get special treatment... Pero yung special treatment na yun, nakikita ko sa mga check point. Sa tinagal tagal ko nang nagmamaneho ng oto, twice pa lang ata ako nacheck point. This is excluding the mandatory check point sa malls at sa airport.

Pero sa bike, dyan lang mismo sa Makati, may check point ang mga nakamotor as the car drivers go a passin by.

[Sh3rwin]

In a way, I was contradicting your statement. Yes, the motorcycle riders get special treatment... Pero yung special treatment na yun, nakikita ko sa mga check point. Sa tinagal tagal ko nang nagmamaneho ng oto, twice pa lang ata ako nacheck point. This is excluding the mandatory check point sa malls at sa airport.

Pero sa bike, dyan lang mismo sa Makati, may check point ang mga nakamotor as the car drivers go a passin by.

But I did state that the special treatment to riders are only during accidents. Sinabi ko pa nga kung di nasaktan kokotongan pa ng mga pulis yung nakamotor diba..

[RetroManila]

Thats one possibility why cagers hate motorcyle. But then again... I don't hate motorcycle who split lanes when I'm stuck in traffic, I hate those who split lane carelessly why I'm on the move, ito kasi yung delikado. I hate them for putting their lives in danger, kasi sabi ko nga ako din ang talo, sinu ba gagastos... If the law is not unfair(kung sino may kasalanan siya magbayad, kung wala kang kasalanan di mo sasagutin yung paospital or kung anu man), then wala ko problem sa mga nakamotor.

Actually sir, if you get to talk with responsible riders, they reprimand those freewheeling riders as well. A lot of groups are even pushing for stricter and more comprehensive licensing process and execution of traffic laws.

I guess the issue with this thread is putting all motorcycles in a box... the same way we have poorly stereotyped Evos and Fortuners. (Refer to one thread in BP for reference.)

[RetroManila]

But I did state that the special treatment to riders are only during accidents. Sinabi ko pa nga kung di nasaktan kokotongan pa ng mga pulis yung nakamotor diba..

Point taken.

Care to move on?

[virtuoso]

last weekend:

i was turning left on an intersection... on the opposite direction before the intersection, may tumigil na jeep, may daredevil motorcycle rider na umiwas sa jeep (nasa lane sya ng jeep originally) at medyo mabilis, and you know when motorcycles are fast when they turn like they were in the GP. eh nakain ko na 'yung isang lane (out of two) of the opposite direction as i was turning left, so i blinked my lights.

aba talagang gustong mauna pa sa akin! eh wala pa siya sa intersection nagl-left na ako! at umiwas pa siya sa jeep na tumigil sa harapan niya!

naturally, since alam kong ogag itong rider na ito, i stopped the car. binusinahan ko. as he was slowly riding past in front of my car, nakatingin pa sa akin, and tumigil pagkalagpas. i opened my window, said some words my grade 1 teacher shouldn't hear, and shouted "halika rito!"

so paalis na ako, when i noticed he was preparing to get down his ride. so i moved my car to not block the intersection, where we exchanged words. as i parked my car away 15 meters, there he is in my side mirror, walking towards me.

pinalapit ko muna, then sabay arangkada! ayun, mukha syang *****. well, hindi lang mukha, ***** talaga sya. makikipag-karera sa naka-kotse, at may angkas pang babae!

invincible nga.

[Sh3rwin]

Actually sir, if you get to talk with responsible riders, they reprimand those freewheeling riders as well. A lot of groups are even pushing for stricter and more comprehensive licensing process and execution of traffic laws.

I guess the issue with this thread is putting all motorcycles in a box... the same way we have poorly stereotyped Evos and Fortuners. (Refer to one thread in BP for reference.)

Siguro mas magandang palitan na lang ang name ng thread to "Anu ang kinaiinisan niyo sa Motor/Car Drivers."

parang mas bagay base sa mga sagot din ng mga pexers dito.