The New Look of PNR

[palace]

isa pa, kailan ba gagawing dual track ang buong Southrail? if i am not mistaken, hanggang Calamba lang dual track ang Southrail then from Calamba all the way to Bicol, single track na lang. kung gagawing dual track ang buong Southrail, magagamit ang riles at all times instead na maghihintayan just because may isang train na gumagamit ng riles sa single track portion ng Southrail (Calamba-Bicol).

we must harness our railways' capabilities to the limit. we can put passengers and cargo on our trains. by doing so, we will not only somewhat lessen the traffic on our clogged roads but we can spur development in areas where our railway system passes.

dual track to bicol - that's another of my dream for PNR. sana nga.

yung dual track ng PNR is only up to bicutan.

again, main concern there is cost. even the malaysia-singapore line is not yet dual track (though may concrete plans na). thailand's major routes are also single track. and they have far more advanced rail systems and di hamak na mas mayaman kesa satin.

[palace]

Thanks Palace ...

Tamang tama ang southrail for your province's tourism potentials !!!

not just tourism, pati overall trade and commerce na din.

it's a pain to navigate the national highway to bicol because of traffic and poor road conditions.

i long for the day when people will return to making PNR the primary choice of travel going to and from manila. and for the day when freight from manila to sorsogon (for the jump off point to visayas roro) is handled mostly by rail.

[AlanNathaniel]

Actually, pwedeng magco-exist ang Standard Gauge at Narrow Gauge. Pero, hindi madaling mag-layout ng tracks. Sa Northrail, madaling pagsamahin kasi nakalagay na ang pinagpapakuan ng standard rails, ilalagay na lang ang pangatlong rail para sa narrow rail. Sa Southrail, hindi madaling pagsamahin kasi papalitan pa ang pagpapakuan ng standard rail.

^ kung hindi pala suited sa lahat ng areas dito sa Pilipinas ang conversion into Standard gauge, sana iniwan na lang na Cape gauge ang Northrail. mas magastos kasi on our part na dalawang sets ng rolling stock ang ime-maintain natin all because mismatch ang Northrail and Southrail in terms of rail gauges (Northrail being on Standard gauge, Southrail staying on Cape gauge).

isa pa, ginagastusan na din naman natin ito, bakit hindi pa natin lubus-lubusin? we are spending huge amounts of money on this so i am thinking that we should have prepared for the possibility of getting rights-of-way as we convert the entire Southrail line to Standard gauge from the old Cape gauge.

[info118]

mga sir, ask ko lang po..im from san pedro, laguna..dito po ba ang simula nito? makakasakay ba ako sa bagong PNR?

thanks

[Bahay_Kubo]

palace: thanks for the information. all the while, i was thinking that PNR Southrail was dual track until Alabang until you said that it was only dual track up to Bicutan and from Bicutan all the way to Bicol, it was already single track.

the good thing about dual track systems is that both tracks can be used at the same time without any form of interruption. a northbound train can use one track while the southbound one can use the other one. however, just like what you said, going dual track would certainly entail much cost, especially acquiring private property and rights-of-way.

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AlanNathaniel: i hope there are provisions on the Southrail project for the transition from Cape gauge to Standard gauge. we should all look forward to the time that the entire Philippine railway system will be entirely on Standard gauge or, if the status quo prevails (Northrail on Standard gauge, Southrail on Cape gauge), a dual gauge system.

i am also looking forward to the time when the PNR will make the transition from using diesel multiple units (DMUs) to electric multiple units (EMUs).

[AlanNathaniel]

San Pedro (Carmona), Laguna has provisions for standard gauge track. But I don't know if the work has been completed upgrading from Narrow track. But the news outlets of the PNR say the station in Naga, Camarines Sur, is being upgraded to standard gauge, with PNR lines to be lengthened from Albay to Sorsogon. But there is still an end-of-line arker in Albay.

So, if the upgrade to standard gauge tracks are complete, yes, you can ride the new PNR.

mga sir, ask ko lang po..im from san pedro, laguna..dito po ba ang simula nito? makakasakay ba ako sa bagong PNR?

thanks

[palace]

palace: thanks for the information. all the while, i was thinking that PNR Southrail was dual track until Alabang until you said that it was only dual track up to Bicutan and from Bicutan all the way to Bicol, it was already single track.

if you happen to drive by bicutan exit of slex, and when you cross the PNR level crossing there, going to taguig, you will actually see where the dual tracks merge to one, as the track head down to sucat/alabang.

[pvttim]

wala namang problema ang single track especially sa malayuang destinasyon katulad ng pa-probinsya. scheduling lang ang katapat nyan na sa malamang parte na rin ng plano. economical lang ang dual track o multi-tracks sa mga siyudad since mas busy ang mga tracks na ito since magkakalapit lang ang mga istasyon.

[palace]

But the news outlets of the PNR say the station in Naga, Camarines Sur, is being upgraded to standard gauge, with PNR lines to be lengthened from Albay to Sorsogon. But there is still an end-of-line arker in Albay.

So, if the upgrade to standard gauge tracks are complete, yes, you can ride the new PNR.

Those reports are misleading (or are you referring to double tracking?). The construction in Naga City is only for the renovation of the station (it's almost complete when i drove by the other weekend). There's no on going construction for gauge conversion anywhere on the main line south. There's indeed a plan to extend from Albay to Sorsogon para may connection sa RORO to Samar, along with plans to convert the whole line to standard gauge.

@info118 : according to happosai, the new DMUs will only be used up to alabang. but i believe there will also be a revival of the commuter service up to calamba, but using the old JR stock coaches. sakay ka na lang from san pedro to alabang on the old coach.

[palace]

wala namang problema ang single track especially sa malayuang destinasyon katulad ng pa-probinsya. scheduling lang ang katapat nyan na sa malamang parte na rin ng plano. economical lang ang dual track o multi-tracks sa mga siyudad since mas busy ang mga tracks na ito since magkakalapit lang ang mga istasyon.

correct. basta may maayos na signalling system, there should be no problem. it depends on the frequency of traffic.

yung mga long range trains naman is only a handful. nung 2006, before the close of the bicol operation, there was only 1 mnl-bicol trip each day so bale 2 trains lang babantayan mo ng salubungan. mas maganda nung 70s-80s where at times there are more than a dozen train sets plying the south line per day.

dual tracking will come when traffic returns to PNR.

[suri_maw2020]

Sana naman matapos na ang first phase rehabilitation sa North...para naman magkaroon muli ng Manila-Dagupan na biyahe ang PNR.....then Dagupan- Ilocos Region.....tiyak madaming
bakasyonista ang gagamit ng service na yan dahil mabilis at walang traffic....

dami pa namang mga kababayan natin ngayon ang laging
pumupunta sa ilocos Region...dahil sa magagandang tanawin.

Gooooooo for PNR to NORTH......

[suri_maw2020]

hmmm tanong lang sa bagong PNR DMU.....paano pala ito meron pa din bang conduktor sa loob?

Di po ba ito magiging kahambing sa LRT/MRT na merong electronic gate na iyong mga me ticket lang ang pwede pumasok sa rampa para sureness na bayad ang sasakay sa kanya......

kasi sa mga nabasa ko.....parang iyong ibang Pinoy na sumasakay sa blue Whale ay iniiwasan ang conduktor para di sila magbayad....

sana di na ito mapabayaan pa ng ating mga namamahala sa lipunan

[suri_maw2020]

nako me tanong pa pala ako....me contingency plan na ba ang taga MMDA sa pagbabalik ng Riles?....kasi sureness ang mga jeep na bumibiyahe sa rota malapit sa mga Train station ay magkakabuhol-buhol na naman ang trapiko niyan....

Lam naman nating lahat na napakaraming pasaway na pinoy Driver.....sana ang parusa sa mga abusado na yan......apat na buwan na confiscated ang kanilang lisensyaa para di makabiyahe.

[ionmarx]

^ Hindi na kailangan, kung makakaladkad naman sila ng tren. Nyahaha. Wag silang makarekla-reklamo na hindi tinigilan ng tren, wala silang karapatan!

[palace]

hmmm tanong lang sa bagong PNR DMU.....paano pala ito meron pa din bang conduktor sa loob?

Di po ba ito magiging kahambing sa LRT/MRT na merong electronic gate na iyong mga me ticket lang ang pwede pumasok sa rampa para sureness na bayad ang sasakay sa kanya......

kasi sa mga nabasa ko.....parang iyong ibang Pinoy na sumasakay sa blue Whale ay iniiwasan ang conduktor para di sila magbayad....

sana di na ito mapabayaan pa ng ating mga namamahala sa lipunan

yeah, looks like old school pa din ang fare and ticketing system ng PNR. the renovated stations doesn't have provisions for turnstiles. malamang konduktor pa din.

[happosai]

^ kung hindi pala suited sa lahat ng areas dito sa Pilipinas ang conversion into Standard gauge, sana iniwan na lang na Cape gauge ang Northrail. mas magastos kasi on our part na dalawang sets ng rolling stock ang ime-maintain natin all because mismatch ang Northrail and Southrail in terms of rail gauges (Northrail being on Standard gauge, Southrail staying on Cape gauge).

Gagawin kasing elevated ang northrail na parang LRT at gagamitin ay mga highspeed trains. Mas malalaki nga lang ang pylons na gagamitin sa northrail kasi dadaan din doon ang mga cargo trains na nasa 100tons ang bigat.

[Bahay_Kubo]

^ that's so unfair. palibhasa galing norte si Gloria.

[AbulugAdventure]

Saw their Paco loading station...parang ang kitid ng daraanan ng tren.

[rational]

Saan ang stop sa Alabang? Metropolis? I hope marami silang parking.

VERY EXCITED ako rito.

[phoenix_utopia]

Who is saying that the President is doing nothing?

We can see tangible infrastructures and recent innovations in rail transit system. This gives an alternative but cheap and decent mode of transportation for mass commuters. This instance suggests that the President deserves not to be antagonized but to see through her achievements becoming to be realized by us.