Complaints about toyota vios

[CLY]

I wouldnt risk it. 10hp from added airflow is uncertain but air drag due to an open hood is guaranteed.

[10323015]

going back to topic, yung first gen, grabe maglangis.

since magkapatid lang ang makina the first and second gens (almost same tech used, vvti-i, etc.), this might become an issue as well.

easy fix: change oil every six months (kahit fully synthetic, which can do a year).

the bad: ^ that's expensive.

[pit bull]

baka pwede lagyan na lang nila ng hood scoop, bibilis pa

[slamm]

baka pwede lagyan na lang nila ng hood scoop, bibilis pa

+20hp

Or they can just remove it all along... pag umulan, di mas malamig pa yung makina. Di na talaga papawisan.

Grabe maglangis? Sludge problem, oil leak or oil consumption? Whether synth or not, better to change every 5,000kms even with just regular mineral based oil. The 1.6L vvti engine of the Altis was proven to be sludge prone if the owner changed oil every 10,000kms even if he was using synth.

[10323015]

^ yeah, both altis and vios (previous models) are prone to sludging.

fully synthetics can last up to 10k kms or 1 year, whichever comes first, on some vehicles.

pero on altises and vioses, 6 months or 5k kms lang.

if you compute the costs, man, that's expensive!

[slamm]

^ yeah, both altis and vios (previous models) are prone to sludging.

fully synthetics can last up to 10k kms or 1 year, whichever comes first, on some vehicles.

pero on altises and vioses, 6 months or 5k kms lang.

if you compute the costs, man, that's expensive!

If you're on a budget, mineral based oils or semi-synth with a current API rating is good. I run 5,000kms in 3 to 4 months and use Mobil 1000 15W-40 (rated for my LPG powered daily drive Altis) and VIC oil filter and this costs me around 1K thereabouts every change oil. 55,000kms and so far so good.

Nice thing about Hondas today, its service interval is every 10,000kms.

[Revelations]

I drove my uncle's A/T vios (1.3 ata) a few months ago. power was good enough for going up to baguio, interior was good too and the ergonomics (radio, light and signal switches, dash instrument placement, etc) was very good.

however, my complaints with a vios is I always get the feeling that I'm too low. my height is 5'5 and whenever I sit down behind the wheel or passenger side, parang ang baba ng pakiramdam ko. maybe it's the window height or the windshield height, or the car is too low indeed? it's just a subjective feeling I have. parang ang lapit ko na sa daan -- that's the closest description I can give. parang ang baba ng road clearance. my sister also attests to that sensation of being too near the road -- and she's only 4'6!!! hihi.. we don't get that feeling of being near the road in our kia pride.

another complaint is the long front -- well.. para sa akin parang ang haba haba ng harap kasi. ang hirap i-estimate ang harap na mahaba. it took me quite a while but even after a week of driving I still worry that I my estimate of the front is wrong. baka makasagi ako because of wrong estimate.

well... yun lang. maybe its because I'm not that comfortable in another car. don't get me wrong, my other uncle has a honda civic which I also drove around (hehehe.. mahilig magpahiram ng sasakyan ang mga uncle ko)-- the best na nadrive ko ay (no doubt) volkswagen beetle.

oh dagdag ko pala. compared to a kia pride (which in my opinion is a compact car), in the vios parang ang sikip. I don't have the same leg room and I feel kind of cramped.

[10323015]

If you're on a budget, mineral based oils or semi-synth with a current API rating is good. I run 5,000kms in 3 to 4 months and use Mobil 1000 15W-40 (rated for my LPG powered daily drive Altis) and VIC oil filter and this costs me around 1K thereabouts every change oil. 55,000kms and so far so good.

Nice thing about Hondas today, its service interval is every 10,000kms.

this is a good alternative, pero more frequent replacement (every three months, using mineral oil) also come at a price: time.

between mineral and semi-synthetic, i'd rather chose the former.

it's that or fully synthetic. no in betweens for me.

mukhang patient ka naman at naaalagaan mo ng maayos ang altis mo eh, so good for you!

[slamm]

this is a good alternative, pero more frequent replacement (every three months, using mineral oil) also come at a price: time.

between mineral and semi-synthetic, i'd rather chose the former.

it's that or fully synthetic. no in betweens for me.

mukhang patient ka naman at naaalagaan mo ng maayos ang altis mo eh, so good for you!

I'd freak out if i had to go to the Toyota CASA every 3 months. I can't imagine why a simple 5,000km change oil will take half a day at the least (its usually the 20K and 40K km intervals that require more work). I screwed the warranty after 10,000kms and just went to do the service on my own. Good thing my suking mekaniko is just close by (unless i have to drive to Banawe for a parts run).

My wife is even more patient. I always see her eyes roll when i tell her i'll be gone for two to three hours on a Saturday morning to work on the car but she'll let me go with no complaint. Before we got married my room was more like a surplus shop.

Funny is the Toyota manual calls in the Altis for change oil every 10,000kms only and then sludging occurs if you do so (doesn't happen to the 1.8L model though). Just another design flaw in the house of T i guess.

I like the setup on BMW vehicles. The engine management factors in driving style and overall conditions and has a computer display that tells a driver to go in for servicing instead of following a preset schedule.

BTW, the kalampag i mentioned on our Vios in post number 4, it turned out to be a loose spare tire and it took my in-laws 2 visits to the CASA to find it. I also mentioned on that post about the ECU in the engine bay being exposed to the elements... well, that same Vios got flooded over its roof during Ondoy and the ECU survived (battery disconnected). The only major electrical part that gave way was the EPS (Electric Power Steering) Module. When we installed the new EPS Module, it wouldnt work and turns out, you need to bring it to Toyota to program the ECU to accept the new part (even if its the same, original part).

[Papichulo168]

Wow! Your Vios survived an Ondoy immersion? You're one of the lucky few!

[slamm]

Wow! Your Vios survived an Ondoy immersion? Your ine of the lucky few!

Disconnecting the battery before the flood waters consumed the car then hosing it off and using generous amounts of electrical contact cleaner on the visible engine sensors immediately the next day helped. It actually started and idled after i cleaned the plugs and flushed out the water from the block and tanks (although all the possible warning lights were on). After that, it still took more than two months in the shop to get it to pre-Ondoy condition (Toyota San Fernando already quoted enough parts for the car to be replaced but Prudential made all adjustments to just have it repaired).

We're even waiting for the insurance to release the OEM stereo replacement up to this day (no stock daw in Toyota). Kung pwede nga lang palitan ng ganito:

[pit bull]

Disconnecting the battery before the flood waters consumed the car then hosing it off and using generous amounts of electrical contact cleaner on the visible engine sensors immediately the next day helped. It actually started and idled after i cleaned the plugs and flushed out the water from the block and tanks (although all the possible warning lights were on). After that, it still took more than two months in the shop to get it to pre-Ondoy condition (Toyota San Fernando already quoted enough parts for the car to be replaced but Prudential made all adjustments to just have it repaired).

We're even waiting for the insurance to release the OEM stereo replacement up to this day (no stock daw in Toyota). Kung pwede nga lang palitan ng ganito:

ganyan rin ginawa ko, tinanggal ko yung battery, MAF Sensor, Air Filter (K&N) bago umangat yung tubig... di ko alam tanggalin yung box kaya di ko na natanggal... next day pinalinis ko na yung mga sensors, at palit fluids, after 2 days (Wednesday) tumatakbo na yung engine, Friday na-test drive ko na. Monday the following week dala ko na sa office. May trash bag lang yung upuan dahil mamasa masa pa

[balds]

Disconnecting the battery before the flood waters consumed the car then hosing it off and using generous amounts of electrical contact cleaner on the visible engine sensors immediately the next day helped. It actually started and idled after i cleaned the plugs and flushed out the water from the block and tanks (although all the possible warning lights were on). After that, it still took more than two months in the shop to get it to pre-Ondoy condition (Toyota San Fernando already quoted enough parts for the car to be replaced but Prudential made all adjustments to just have it repaired).

We're even waiting for the insurance to release the OEM stereo replacement up to this day (no stock daw in Toyota). Kung pwede nga lang palitan ng ganito:

Hindi ba pwedeng ikaw na lang bumili ng stereo unit at reimburse na lang sa insurance, kasi almost one year na nakalipas ang Ondoy.....

[slamm]

Hindi ba pwedeng ikaw na lang bumili ng stereo unit at reimburse na lang sa insurance, kasi almost one year na nakalipas ang Ondoy.....

I talked to the insurance this afternoon. I brought up the reimbursement thing and just purchase a replacement stereo; guess what, my OE Toyota stereo will be ready for pick up this Sat AM.

[Papichulo168]

^
Siguro wala pa silang stock ng second hand OEM stereo baka bago na lang ibibigay sa iyo. Mas mura nga naman kesa mag reimburse sila ng replacement na bibilhin mo.

[slamm]

Mukha nga; well, they would do anything to cut costs and tried their luck. I can't believe the POS stock HU was around P 50K++ as quoted by Toyota. The GPS unit i posted above costs around P25K on the net.

On the flooded Vios, we took apart the dashboard a month ago to reinspect it and here's what has to be watched out for, rust on metal braces with no coating (we sanded and painted the said parts):


Thats the part right behind the steering wheel.

[balds]

Mukha nga; well, they would do anything to cut costs and tried their luck. I can't believe the POS stock HU was around P 50K++ as quoted by Toyota. The GPS unit i posted above costs around P25K on the net.

On the flooded Vios, we took apart the dashboard a month ago to reinspect it and here's what has to be watched out for, rust on metal braces with no coating (we sanded and painted the said parts):


Thats the part right behind the steering wheel.

grabe pala kapag na Ondoy, kalawang agad ang mga galvanizado, paano na kaya iyang mga parts na di plated...kailangan ng mai-dispatsa si Ruby....

[10323015]

^

hay, here we go again.

the rich girl from down under is back, pave way

[mulatah]

grabe pala kapag na Ondoy, kalawang agad ang mga galvanizado, paano na kaya iyang mga parts na di plated...kailangan ng mai-dispatsa si Ruby....

Whoa. I never thought na ganyan katindi ang corrosion.

[mulatah]

^

hay, here we go again.

the rich girl from down under is back, pave way

Switching to silent mode. Hahahaha. Good morning to all.