NS1 afaik is Officer Level
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NS1 afaik is Officer Level
Hi Iceburn, nag message ka po ba? Pa resend **** po ulit, kasi nagbounce back ata, kasi puno inbox ko. thanks
question, kailangan ba civil service passer ka to be considered for a role in ADB? if yes, professional ba or non professional dapat yun certificate? TIA
I just saw this link a few days ago and, I got hooked reading on the flow of conversations. This is a very helpful exchange!
I have almost read the entire posting on this site but I haven't noticed anyone who applied at the Office of the General Counsel (international staffing).
I have a few questions to ask and, I hope someone can share their thoughts.
1. Does anyone know if there is any Filipino lawyer working in the Office of the General Counsel (OGC)?
2. Would knowing someone at the OGC help an applicant in landing a job in that division?
3. The ADB's annual report for 2011 shows that there are 41 Filipinos working as international staff and 1,381 as national/administrative staff. On basis of these statistics, would anyone know if the Philippines has already reached is quota for hiring staff?
Thanks and hope to hear from you!
I agree, don't rely on the status updates. I applied last year and my current status on ARC is Regret, but I still got contacted for an exam and an interview this year. No results yet. Still praying.
I am also waiting for their call. My last interaction with them was last May (HR interview). But for the meantime, I accepted a temporary appointment with UNDP. Good luck to those waiting, too
1) AFAIK, there are Fil lawyers in OGC. but if i'm not mistaken, all of them are national officers. i don't think there is an international staff.
2) well, one of the things i like about the Bank is that they don't put too much premium on who you know but on what you know. it wouldn't hurt your chances if you know someone in the office you are eyeing but i wouldn't put too much hope in it.
3) i am not aware that there is a rule about the number of IS slots per nationality. i'll have to check on that.
^ ah talaga? one new thing learned, then. pero for AS/NS slots for the Philippines, definitely walang quota yun. yun lang ang sure ako, hehe.
anyone here who'll be attending the "Beginning Life in ADB" seminar?
From ADB ka pala, I saw your thread about the career ADD at talagang nag-self assessment pa ako hehe. But I think it's more because I really miss Pinas rather than simple boredom on my part dahil okay naman ang work ko sa Canada kung tutuusin.
I've applied at ADB both for international and national senior staff positions (dahil nag-aral din naman ako sa abroad kahit papaano) but that "Under Referral" status has been hounding me for ages. At first nabuhayan ako ng pag-asa kasi ang bilis nag-change from evaluation to referral yun pala na-stuck na don.
You're also from abroad, right? Do you have any tips kung paano maging successful candidate sa ADB. How did you do it? Did you start applying for entry level positions or consultancy? I'm thinking of applying for an entry level position but I'm afraid it would somehow affect my application for higher positions. Here in Canada, we usually disregard application from people who are over-qualified but at the same time I'm thinking that maybe an entry level position would be the only way to get into ADB. My only fear is that it's gonna be such a huge pay cut coz I'm already a supervisor here. Feel ko lang na para makabalik sa Pinas parang anglaki-laki namang sacrifice pero gusto ko na talaga bumalik. Even if I have my family here and nakaka-11 years na kami dito bakit ba mahirap talaga kalimutan ang Pinas, haayyy....
You can backread. i've included a lot of tips about ADB. And i cannot stress this enough. don't expect until you actually have the contract.
and yes i worked abroad. my interviewer even told me i am overqualified and that i should be applying for IS but as i told my interviewer noon, you're not considering me for the IS positions i applied to and my objective is to get into adb to continue in my current career path. i figured i can always move up. my current pay is a paycut from my pay abroad but i can't complain, it's ok for Manila and it is able to provide for my family.
a lot of the new local staff are overqualified. the recruitment process has gotten very very competitive that you have people with advance degrees and years of experience willing to take entry level jobs just to get into adb. ADB has their picking amongst the thousands who apply per position.
and to all, i've heard of a fairly recent case na naudlot yung pre-offer. the candidate lied about not having relatives in ADB, when the person had an immediate relative pala. The offer was promptly withdrawn.
Thanks for the tips. I tried to read them all pero grabe na haba ng thread na ito, can't remember saan ako inabot pero hindi ko na natapos. I'll try to read more later on. It seems ikaw ang no.1 source of info dito, thanks for being generous. Sana yung ibang insiders katulad mo rin.
Btw, if ever mag-apply ako for NS hindi ba magiging problem na nasa Canada ako? Where you interviewed from the US or did you have to go to the ADB office for the panel/final interview? Another question, pasensya na sa abala sana di ka magsawa, unethical ba na mag-direct contact sa department na inaplayan mo? Here in Canada, it depends on the management culture, some see it as showing initiative while others (old culture) are turned off. I'm just wondering if it's a common practice at ADB. How do you know nga pala if the position is AS or NS? Thanks in advance.
I wouldn't know. I was interviewed from here and I repeat, I am not with HR so I wouldn't know if it would be an issue if you are based in Canada for Local staff positions. But do put it in perspective, for a local position with thousands of applicants, wouldn't they put priority on those who meet the qualifications and are actually here?
About contacting the department you are applying for, well contacting departments is not a guarantee of anything as you will have to make it past HR's longlist first before the department further whittles it down to the shortlist. Organizations like ADB, World Bank, IMF, UN etc have similar recruitment processes because they prefer transparency and proper process especially when it comes to hiring as it is very competitive. In these organizations, all job applications pass through HR Recruitment first where they scrutinize each application to see if it meets the job criteria before they hand their selection to the hiring department. Then the department selects a small number to interview etc. It's very procedural.
As for AS/NS, NS positions have "officer" in the title.
Hi Ice Burn
Does it mean an analyst position is just AS? Hindi sya NS? I thought ang AS lang lahat nang assistant positions.
Hirap talaga makapasok sa ADB, one of my applications that has been "Under referral" for several weeks already turned to "Regret" today. On the brighter side, mabuti na rin yon kaysa naman forever guessing and hoping ka.
thank you and this thread has been very useful and informative. i have few other questions though:
1. for entry level positins/AS4, qualification of an applicant depends on his a. educational background b. work experience and c. exam results right? can anyone share which criteria seems to be more valuable during the selection process? Or can good exam results compensate to lack of experience (3 yrs) or the other way around?(poor performance in exam but valuable work experience)
2. if work experience is the most important and an applicant have 5 years experience in the position he is applying for, will there be a negative effect on his qualification if his previous employer is involve in the manufacture of alcoholic beverages/ cigarettes? (e.g. san miguel,)
1) Good exam results compensate for lack of experience. however, if you do not meet the minimum required years of work experience but aced the exam and the interview, you will be considered but will be underfilled until you meet the required number of years. i.e. when you are applying for AS4 (which requires at least 5 years exp) but only have, say, 3 years exp, you will be an AS3 for 2 years before you are promoted to AS4.
2) The Bank does not care if your previous employer is involved in the manufacture of alcoholic beverages or cigarettes.
thanks for helping me out. However, could work experience and educational background compensate in a not-so-good performance in the the exam? Applicants who have worked for 5 years, as the position requires, will most definitely find a hard time in taking up paper and pencil exams, especially mathematics
Again, thank you for your inputs