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    Dating Secret Exposed: Why Nice Guys Finish Last

    Are you a nice guy who has always wondered why the cocky guy -- the one who barely appears interested in the girl -- is usually the one who gets the girl?
    Have you suffered from hearing the words, "You're a really nice guy, but I only like you as a friend," from a woman who you would do (or may, in fact, have already done) just about anything and everything for -- only to turn around and watch her date (or even chase) a guy who treats her like she's nothing special? And are you stumped wondering why she would date a guy who treats her like that when she could have you who would treat her like a princess and give her everything she wants? Well, you better brace yourself because I'm going to tell you a couple of secrets that you might not want to hear.
    First, "nice" equates with boring and predictable. Look up "nice" in the dictionary and you find: pleasant; agreeable; satisfactory. In other words, average -- not exceptional, not exciting, and not sexy.I'll bet you've never heard a woman say she didn't want to date a guy because he was too confident, too passionate, or too exciting -- have you? But, I'll bet you have heard women say things like, "He's such a nice guy. He's so sweet and he's always there for me, but I only like him as a friend." Or, "He's such a good guy -- kind, thoughtful, generous, honest, loyal -- but there's no chemistry. He just doesn't turn me on." Sadly, I hear it all the time. The fact is, Mr. Nice Guy, you cannot bore a woman into feeling attracted to you or into wanting to date you. And as obvious as that sounds, if you are one of those guys I described that is exactly what you are trying to do. And it won't work.

    Please understand that I am not suggesting that you mistreat women or disrespect them in any way.
    What I suggesting is that you value and respect yourself more.

    To illustrate what I mean: The answer to the question, "Why does the guy who doesn't appear to care as much about the girl get the girl?" is simple: The nice guy cares too much, too soon. He has made the woman too important and too valuable and it shows in everything he says and does. He is too available, too eager to please, too accommodating, and he gives too much -- all without getting anything in return. By doing so, he has made himself appear desperate, insecure, needy of this woman's attention, affection, and approval -- and he has stripped himself of any value in her eyes. After all, if he's already doing and giving everything, without her doing or giving anything - why would she value him? She won't. She is not going to value him any more than he values himself. What she is going to do is look for someone else, someone who she perceives as being more worthy, more confident, and more valuable.

    It works like this:
    Once you need something, or you want it too badly, you forfeit your strength and lose all power of negotiation. You are in a position of weakness and you are perceived as weak. Someone (or something) else is in control of you, the situation, and it's outcome. Men in this situation appear to be anything but confident, strong, and exciting.
    More, they are perceived as being unworthy and as lacking value.

    Translation: Things that are easily acquired, obtained, or maintained, without any effort or sacrifice, lack value... it's human nature.
    The secret to why the cocky guy wins with women, over the nice guy, is that he is perceived as being a stronger, more confident guy with more value. How? He never invests everything -- his entire being, ego, and self-worth in what one woman's response or reaction to him is. He doesn't gush with compliments; he isn't always available; he doesn't give too much; and he knows he isn't going to die if a woman says "no" to him. More, his attitude is, yeah, I'd like to go out with you, but if I can't, that's OK -- I'm a busy guy, with exciting things going on, and lots of other options.

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    aww....thread mo pala ito.. kaya pala same flow na naman..hihi!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totoy__ View Post
    tanong mo kay pink_gold...


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    palusot for what dearie? giving you a respect is now a palusot?good analysis huh?

    ganyan ba ginawa sayo ng bf mo?sakin hindi pa naman..

    fyi, i'll be glad and willing to fulfill my future husband's fantasies..except for threesome.. how about you?

    wala ka na talaga pag-asa dear..i just wish you luck..


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    Just like the TS said:

    I would have as much fun and sex as I could with as many wild and crazy, Jerks as possible until I was in my mid to late 20's. Then, I would start looking for a Nice-guy that went to college even got his MBA, had a well-paying career or business that I could settle down with. I would begin to control him by giving him the hottest sex of his life as a reward to meet my every want, need, desire and wish. He would become like a genie in a bottle that I would just rub a few times and get what I want. (Sounds familiar?).

    sign of incomprehension ka nanaman totoy! TS said TS said ka pa jan?

    well, the chief reason why i want to fulfill my future husband's fantasies is because i love him sooooo much..and i want him to be satisfied/contented..and not because i want to control him or so..understood?

    ginamit mo pa yung statement ko sa mga kabaliwan mo ha..kapal!

  4. #24
    bwahaha, daming namamantasya maging badboy eh sa pagpePEX pa lang obvious na good boys mga boys dito. Ang mga bad boys walang oras mang-PEX. Nangpepekspeks lang.

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    young girls when fed up with bad boys continually dumping her over and over again in the course of her lifetime will just result in marrying a nice guy in the end, someone worthy to be her husband.

    how many threads have you read here in pex about girls being in the pedestal and had broken hearts caused by these so called bad boys?? if that is the case I can say that most girls are stupid in the game called love...if that is really love what if its just lust all along?


    its a stupidity girls drool over these rock-stars wannabe, guys with no jobs, addicts, playboys, players and at the end these chicks end up crying like a child that has lost her candy

    I know lots of couple end up having a nice happy marriage with nice and responsible guys.

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    hi to all

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    this is the biggest misconception or misunderstanding or some kind of BS that a lot of people believes. I will say it unless you are open minded you will never ever understand this. This bad boy and good boy labeling only works to those people who don't know about life. Just thinking about excitement and other positive things. Life is not all about that, there's a lot about life you don't know if you think and believe about this bad or good boy concept. A good boy can be successful in life without being bad infact most smart people are naturally good why? in the game of life it's about the survival of the fittest and usually the bad ones are the strong ones and the nice ones are the weaklings. but it doesn't mean the strongs ones will survive because they are strong for the weaklings to survive they just have to be smart and this is where i say na Bad boys or Good/Nice guys finish first or last.. it's actually The Smarter One!

    Infact a lot of jerks finish last as nice guys and when they get old and mature nice guys always had the last laugh you know why? well those nice guys you are talking about are the one who will have the last laugh and this jerk guys will remain a jerk and suffer the consequences unless they change and become a good person too... the fact is.. more younger guys are jerks and mos mature guys are more nicer.. don't ask me why.. it's easy to explain..

    Not all you read in the Internet, Dating Coaches, TV and Movies will apply to your own life. It's your life and your own to explore. What's work for you doesn't mean will work for anyone.. the problem with this BS concepts is that a lot of people now is becoming unnaturally a jerk! and it's much worst when you become a jerk just to be successful and get girls because it will fail.. In the end.. it's not about being bad boy being a jerk and being a nice guy.. life is not about who finishes last and who finishes first.. it's about struggles but for every struggles and downs you have the ability to rise up and walk.. it doesn't matter who wins or lost as long as you are doing jusk AOK! and happy with what you have!

    there's a lot of thread out here sa PEX about good boys and bad boys give yourself a break and stop believing on those BS! it will not work for you if it's not your nature to be that.. one thing for sure you can't please anyone.. whoever you are..

    the thread should be The GoodLooking Guy and The Ugly Guy who will get more attention.. <<-- now that's more interesting..

    rather than this BS concepts..

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by 2424 View Post
    young girls when fed up with bad boys continually dumping her over and over again in the course of her lifetime will just result in marrying a nice guy in the end, someone worthy to be her husband.

    how many threads have you read here in pex about girls being in the pedestal and had broken hearts caused by these so called bad boys?? if that is the case I can say that most girls are stupid in the game called love...if that is really love what if its just lust all along?


    its a stupidity girls drool over these rock-stars wannabe, guys with no jobs, addicts, playboys, players and at the end these chicks end up crying like a child that has lost her candy

    I know lots of couple end up having a nice happy marriage with nice and responsible guys.
    You are actually right. The fact is and this is for real most girls that gets a bad boy will end up hurting and most of them are regretting that fact and it's so stupid they become b*tc*s they become whiners sames goes with guys who goes for bad girls because of excitement.. hehe happiness is not all about excitement, dullness is not all about being boring, if you really want to be happy explore yourself and know yourself first because you will just end up regretting the situations you are encountering..

    How many girls are there now end up marrying a nice guy, because a jerk hurt them so bad they are traumatized now.. i call them stupid actually for whining things and ending up in a nice guy.. i think those people na pumapatol sa so call bad guys jerks or bad girls are the one who needs self validation because this jerks or bad ones are just being like that for self validation and the people they will get are the same shallow and self validation people that you really don't need.. you'd rather be with a boring person instead of being with a shallow and narrowminded people.. believing this BS!

  9. #29
    True blooded Nice Guy akO!

    Wala ako problem sa pag date or pag court ng girls.. success lagi!

    I have a good life too! hindi luck yun! hehehe alam ko lang gagawin ko

    may kasabihan nga..
    Nice guys are in danger of finishing last when they confuse kindness with weakness. As long as they keep that in mind, nice guys can indeed finish first.

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    Do nice guys really finish last?

    It is often said that "nice guys finish last". This is not true. "Nice guys" just have a different definition of winning. Winning, or being first, is not about having the most money, fame or power. When "nice guys" reach the end of their journey, and the ultimate finish line, their idea of winning is to have arrived with the love, support and respect of family and friends. Being successful is leaving behind a life which has changed, in even a small amount, the world in a positive way. A "nice guy's" route to the finish line is altered by many diversions along his path. He stops to take care of others. He makes time for family and for friends. He reaches the finish line happy, loved and comfortable with the choices he has made.

    Who can be called a "nice guy"? As we go through life, and gain more experience, it seems that this definition changes.

    When we are young the "nice guys" are the ones with the compliments. They shower us with praise and attention. They seem to hang on our every word. They bring with them excitement and challenges. We don't necessarily see past the words to the truth that hides inside. We don't realize that praise and attention is useless if not backed up by truth and sincerity. We are caught up in their excitement and bravado.

    As time passes, and life lessons are learned, we find our definition of "nice guys" has changed. While compliments are always welcome; it is more important that they are sincere. Everything is not taken at face value. Rather we look at the inside of a person to determine their worth as a "nice guy". A nice guy" looks outside of himself and cares about the well being of others. He is comfortable with where he is in life and has a plan to move to the next step. He sees the world in a view that extends beyond his own immediate needs. He is thoughtful and caring; without losing sight of his own goals and ambitions.

    We can all learn lessons from the "nice guys". Take the time to enjoy life. Listen to your friends and family. Enjoy your own company and the company of others. Look outside of yourself and monitor how your decisions affect the world around you. Cross the finish line with pride. Proud that you have been the best you could be and because of that the lives you touched along the way have been changed for the better. "Nice guys" do not finish last. They are the ultimate winners in life.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by pink_gold View Post
    sign of incomprehension ka nanaman totoy! TS said TS said ka pa jan?

    well, the chief reason why i want to fulfill my future husband's fantasies is because i love him sooooo much..and i want him to be satisfied/contented..and not because i want to control him or so..understood?

    ginamit mo pa yung statement ko sa mga kabaliwan mo ha..kapal!
    Oh really.. kaya pala ayaw mo sa mga lalaking walang trabaho noh? kasi hindi mo habol na pakainin ka niya at ibigay ang gusto mo..

    http://pinoyexchange.com/forums/show...9&postcount=25

    On topic:


    turn-off din yung mga umaasa lang.. walang trabaho.. walang magawa sa buhay


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    Quote Originally Posted by Totoy__ View Post
    turn-off din yung mga umaasa lang.. walang trabaho.. walang magawa sa buhay

    Bwahahaha. Nagmarunong ang walang trabaho!
    Buti alam mo na turn off sa mga tsiks ang walang trabaho at walang magawa sa buhay.

    Totoy = Duwag, bopols na accountant, nakikitira sa tita, walang trabaho, pipitsuging motor ang dinadrive, walang pera, walang kwenta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Golliwog View Post
    Bwahahaha. Nagmarunong ang walang trabaho!
    Buti alam mo na turn off sa mga tsiks ang walang trabaho at walang magawa sa buhay.

    Totoy = Duwag, bopols na accountant, nakikitira sa tita, walang trabaho, pipitsuging motor ang dinadrive, walang pera, walang kwenta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Totoy__ View Post
    Oh really.. kaya pala ayaw mo sa mga lalaking walang trabaho noh? kasi hindi mo habol na pakainin ka niya at ibigay ang gusto mo..

    http://pinoyexchange.com/forums/show...9&postcount=25

    On topic:


    turn-off din yung mga umaasa lang.. walang trabaho.. walang magawa sa buhay
    aww..my statements are all noted...nice! well, alam ko naman kulang kulang yang pag iisip mo kaya naiintindihan ko why you didn't get the hunch..i was actually referring to you when i posted that!

    and didnt you get it? the topic is about TURN-OFFs..when i truly love someone, kahit anu pa siya tatanggapin ko..kahit lahat pa ng bagay na nakaka turn-off nasa kanya, okei lang..

    at hindi naman ako magaasawa para may magpakain sakin! kaya ko buhayin sarili ko kahit buhayin ko pa siya basta mahal ko siya at mahal niya rin ako!

    naalala mo yung sinabe mong "i think therefore i am"???? ayan it backfired na naman! so kaya ka pala mag aasawa para may magpalamon sayo!! kasi totoo lahat ng description sayo ni Golliwog..well, sayo din naman nanggaling yung info na yun e..

    eto lang masasabe ko sayo, NAKAKAAWA KA! at mas lalo kang nagiging mukang kawawa dahil sa BITTERNESS mo!

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    let me quote what i said...para clear...coz only a few would click the link you gave..


    Quote Originally Posted by pink_gold View Post
    On topic:

    super turn-off yung mga guys na pumapatol sa babae.. should we call them gays?

    turn-off din yung mga umaasa lang.. walang trabaho.. walang magawa sa buhay.. loser.. what else? yung mga trying hard to get a V when i fact they don't deserve such..can't even sustain for himself.. always saying derogatory comments to others(which is certainly biased and untrue).. oh well i guess i should just be commiserative on them..but still a turn-off
    ikaw na ikaw di ba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pink_gold View Post
    and didnt you get it? the topic is about TURN-OFFs..when i truly love someone, kahit anu pa siya tatanggapin ko..kahit lahat pa ng bagay na nakaka turn-off nasa kanya, okei lang..
    Korni..
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    IMO, the best guy FOR ME would finish last..someone who could complement my personality..it's neither the nice guy or the bad guy..coz in the end, those are just tags..and no person is merely nice or bad.. we have both good and bad sides..that nice guy can't be nice as in ALL the time..every person has a downside..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totoy__ View Post
    Korni..
    dapat pala kinowt ko yung sinabe mo e..ang haba haba ng sinabe mo kanina sabay ngayon yan lang natira..wala pang sense..

    honestly, sa lahat lahat ng sinabe mo, dun lang ako mejo nag agree sabay dinelete mo naman.. bakit mo naman dinelete? mejo may sense pa naman..

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    nice guy..my bf is nice

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