Guided by Walkthrough or not..

[escafiona]

wouldnt it be so exciting if you dont know whats ahead of you?

but missing something makes me depress..and i hate that part...

[escafiona]

Obsessive completionist. I hate it I learn that I missed an important thing 35 minutes ago that I'll never get back unless I restart the whole thing again. I learned that the hard way when I used to go to rental shops to play an RPG that had over 90 hours of playtime. Besides, in my (eventual) profession I barely have hours left to play games, so I have to make the most of it at the start.

So far I've yet to see a console RPG game that you can complete 100% without a walkthrough. Even now I'm doubting if I really did technically complete Digimon World 2. That one had over 100 hours of playtime.

yeah..i can relate with that...

[valdeaunia]

Obsessive completionist. I hate it I learn that I missed an important thing 35 minutes ago that I'll never get back unless I restart the whole thing again.

That's why I always have 3-5 savefiles per game.

Missed something? Just load the other savefile and redo everything again

[stingray1059]

na spoil ng walkthrough ang game.

ex: defeating a boss..

without guide: ikaw mismo ang hahanap ng way para ma defeat yun. pag iisipan mo talaga.

with guide: go this this corner, use this weapon and rapidly press X. wala ng thrill. parang di satisfying yung gaming experience.

[juliusborne]

That's why I always have 3-5 savefiles per game.

Missed something? Just load the other savefile and redo everything again

Back in the PSX days there was only a 15-block (note: not MB) memory card that is sold at P500. Having played many games it's easy to fill that memory card, specially with games that costs more that one block to save. Some games have a fixed block amount for a fixed number of save games; case of Digimon World 2 is 3 blocks for 3 save slots.

Now what if you were to, say, save at every game keypoints? Save the game every pre-scenario, mid-scenario, and post-scenario. How many unique save times would that be? Like hell you'd count, you'd just overwrite a saved game anyway. But too bad, you didn't realize that the keypoint that will nab you the most powerful thing in the game was the saved game you've just overwritten 35 minutes ago.

I had to roll back 18 hours of play time just because I missed getting Tifa's panties on her drawer during the flashback. That meant watching the sword go through Aeris TWICE.

[Rammstein]

^^ dalawang beses ka siguro umiyak ano.

[juliusborne]

Actually Cait Sith Prototype I's last fortune telling made me baawww more, which is still Aeris-related. but watching the scene with the perfectly-timed on cue of Aeris' Theme, the subsequent scene made more bitter-sweet by the creative imagination, and the eventual boss battle still maintaining the previous theme in the background giving it a cinematographic dramatic ambiance still strikes me ever so often.

[Eugene Hikaru]

well ..im an oc oc kasi ako eh..perfectionist heheheh so i want to run smooth umpisa ng game..

Pareho tayo. Di naman siguro considered "cheating" iyung pagbasa ng walkthrough. At least ginawa mo pa rin. Siguro kung nagdownload ka lang ng game save or nag-input ka ng something like the Konami code, cheating na siguro iyun.

Depende ako sa laro din. May mga RPGs kasi na may kailangan kang gawing sikreto sa first playthrough para lumabas iyung secrets (i.e. items, bosses, etc.) sa second playthrough. Persona 4 comes to mind. Ito agad inaalam ko. Minsan sa boards muna ako nagbabas, sa mga threads na "Are there missables in this game?"

At may iba namang secrets na talagang paggugugulan mo ng oras dahil walang ni isang clue o kaya naman based on luck iyung secret/achievement. Iyun na talaga iyung ginagamitan ko ng walkthrough dahil wala na akong oras para sa sariling pagta-trial and error.

Extreme example na lang dito iyung secret boss sa Persona 3. Dadaan ka sa dungeon na may 10 floors before mo siya makalaban (walang save point before). Tapos siya mismo, may "pattern" at meron ka dapat iiwasang i-equip kundi papatayin ka niya kaagad. Kung walang walkthrough iyun, katakot-takot na panghuhula gagawin mo. Meron kang 180++ choices na pagpipiliang "equipment" at susubukan sa trial and error....di ko kayang maglaan ng oras para dun.

So pag nadedo ka, ulit ka na naman sa first floor, sugod ka sa 10th, at pag mali ang equipment mo, patay ka agad in 1 or 2 turns. Good luck sa trial and error mo.

[shaoron]

most people use walkthrough for "completeness sake" (collection, best weapon, etc)
nothing really bad...
if you did use one from start to end in your first playthrough...

[Rammstein]

in the end, nasa iyo pa rin kung mag-enjoy ka sa paglalaro.

[Veynn]

Pag original yung game, nakaka hinayang gumamit ng walkthrough.

Pero pag pirated............

[froshie1]

pag first run ko mostly hindi, nag wawalkthrough ako pag talagang sobrang stuck na ako at nakakaasar na talaga pero bago ako mag walkthrough nagtatanong ako sa PEX. kaya ayun mas guided ako sa PEX gamers pag asar mode na ako kaysa sa walkthrough.

[peaches'N'cream]

first time around, no walkthrough; but the next time I'll play (IF I enjoy it that much), may walkthrough na, tapos lahat na nang pwedeng gawin sa game gagawin ko (as in may plan na - stat boosts, getting rare items, doing the secrets...).

[impulse101]

^ ako rin. pag 1st time wala munang walkthrough. tas lalaruin ko ulit na may walkthrough na. kasi baka may mga secrets eh.

[angel_thegame11]

usually first sa playthrough walang walkthrough tapos sa second meron na para ma complete yung side quests saka rare items.

[h33r0]

gaya ng sabi ng karamihan dito, 1st playthrough, walang walkthrough.

pag-natalo mo ang isang kalaban or nasolve mo ang isang puzzle on your own, ang sarap sa pakiramdam. mapapasigaw kang bigla, "OH YEAH!! WHO'S YOUR DADDY NOW!?!

pero pag meron, sasabihin mo lang, "so... ganun pala yun"

so yung walkthrough is good para sa completion ng game on the 2nd playthrough. perfection ika nga.

[Icefist]

First playthrough, di ako nagwawalkthrough. Maganda yung feeling na nadidiscover mo yung game through playing and not by reading. Wala ng sense of discovery pag sa una pa lang eh gumamit na agad ng walkthough.

[Yashiro]

i use it to complete achievements, items, summons, badtrip kasi pag meron namiss at di na mababalikan >.<

[p!noY]

first playthrough no walkthrough para full gaming experience and sariling diskarte lang..

second playthrough with walkthrough na for secrets and sidequest na namiss ko..

[gymrat23]

yep.... lalo na ngayon sa crisis core.. uulitin ko nga eh, kasi may kulang akong ginawa

tried sometimes without the walkthrough mahirap minsan you have to figure it out, so i do with with one.