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  1. #1

    Shin Dong Pa - Korean basketball player..

    heard great things about this player..
    how he was one of the best asian players during the 60's-70's..
    has anyone seen him play..?

    or, at least, share any story about his games against our national teams..

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    one hell of a shooter. prior to his games he would not cut his fingernails because he thought it would affect his shooting touch.

    He had enormous respect for the Big J, but he said the best player he ever played against was Danny Florencio.

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    Ang kapanahunan ko ay si Lee Chung Hee. Naglaro pa nga ang team niya nuon sa PABL (now PBL). Pumutok siya ng 66 points. Sa national team ng South Korea, siya ang heart and soul. Pagka-receive niya ng bola, tira kaagad. Unstoppable talaga. Nang mag-retire siya, pumalit si Hur Jae.

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    Si Hur Jae na lang ang inabutan ko, 2004 Hiroshima Asian games nung mahilig akong subaybayan ng international basketball.

    Yung mga Koreans, quick release spot up shooters. Palaging "naka-kasa" na agad sila bagong tanggapin yung bola. Pagka receive nila ng bola, one quick, fluid motion lang, eh naitira na nila agad yung bola.

    Hanep din yung favorite nilang move.. Shot fake, tapos 1 or 2 quick dribbles, then biglang pop up mid range jumper. Sure ball.

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    Shin Dong Pa is considered to be the prototype shooter for international competitions. Notice how SoKor shooters have almost the same shooting form? They take their cue from him.

    The South Korean team also has a very rigid shooting practice routine -they practice shooting 3s while sitting down behind the 3 point line.

    In the 1970 FIBA World Championship, Shin Dong Pa led the tourney in scoring with 32 points a game. The second top scorer was way behind with a 20 pt ave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BULAKENYO1980 View Post
    Si Hur Jae na lang ang inabutan ko, 2004 Hiroshima Asian games nung mahilig akong subaybayan ng international basketball.

    Yung mga Koreans, quick release spot up shooters. Palaging "naka-kasa" na agad sila bagong tanggapin yung bola. Pagka receive nila ng bola, one quick, fluid motion lang, eh naitira na nila agad yung bola.

    Hanep din yung favorite nilang move.. Shot fake, tapos 1 or 2 quick dribbles, then biglang pop up mid range jumper. Sure ball.
    Ang gusto ko kay Hur Jae ay yung mga lay-up niya. Hayop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlogabriel View Post
    Shin Dong Pa is considered to be the prototype shooter for international competitions. Notice how SoKor shooters have almost the same shooting form? They take their cue from him.

    The South Korean team also has a very rigid shooting practice routine -they practice shooting 3s while sitting down behind the 3 point line.

    In the 1970 FIBA World Championship, Shin Dong Pa led the tourney in scoring with 32 points a game. The second top scorer was way behind with a 20 pt ave.
    talaga..?
    wow..!
    parang mahirap ata yun ah..

    one story i heard about shin dong pa was nung nag-exhibition daw siya ng free-throw shooting dito..
    he missed the 80th shot, but made 99 out of 100..
    ganun daw katindi pulso nun..
    wish there was videos of him..

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    Pinakamatinding shooter sa Asia nung 70s! He's a guaranteed 30+ points a game. But Tembong Melencio and Dave Regullano limited him to less than 30 points the last time the Philippines won the ABC.

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    SA sobrang sikat ni Shin Dong Pa dito, nakakita ako ng jeep sa Taft dati na nakalagay Shin Dong Pa sa harap. At nung dumalaw siya sa Pinas nung 1993, laking gulat niya na binabati siya ng lahat ng empleyado ng NAIA. Sabi niya hindi daw siya ganun kasikat sa Korea.

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    In the 1971 ABC tournament, we beat South Korea 88-80 but lost out to host Japan to wound up second place overall in the tournament. Some of the notable players of that lineup included Bobby Jaworski, Freddie Webb, Danny Florencio, Jimmy Mariano, Bogs Adornado, Marte Samson, Manny Paner, Big Boy Reynoso, Larry Mumar and Jun Papa among others. That team was coached by Ignacio "Ning" Ramos who went on to become the first coach of the San Miguel franchise in the PBA, when they were still called Royal Tru Orange. Our second place victory allowed us to play in the 1972 Munich Olympic Games alongside Japan.

    In the game against South Korea, Shin Dong Pa scored 26 points but not after being shackled by Freddie Webb. Webb used his speed and guile to hound Shin all throughout the game as Shin only scored in single digits by the end of the first half. It was only because of foul trouble that prevented Webb from completely stopping Shin but it was enough to negate his performance for a resounding victory against the Sokors.

    In the 1973 ABC hosted by Manila, it was Rogelio "Tembong" Melencio's turn to put the cuffs on Shin. Shin was still able to score around 20 points in the finals but it was enough to beat the Koreans and earn for us an ABC title, including a trip to the World Basketball tournament to be held in San Juan, Puerto Rico the succeeding year.

    Shin has faced several Filipino defenders all throughout his career. Aside from Webb and Melencio, other notable defenders that Shin had to contend with were Jaworski and the eminent Ed Ocampo. Ocampo was probably the most successful defender against Shin Dong Pa as the two got to face each other in the 1967 ABC tournament.

    The next South Korean hotshot was Lee Chung Hee, as Aleancelo cited. Lee even played in the 1982 PBA Invitationals while with the South Korean national team. It was common for Lee to score in the 30's and 40's despite an array of defenders that went up against him. Lee and Hur Jae were two of the most feared South Korean players that Coach Ron Jacobs had to contend with but he was able to solve this as the Philippines went on to beat South Korea in the 1986 ABC held in Kuala Lumpur. Hur Jae wasn't a fearsome shooter as Lee and Shin but he was the more compleat player - he can be playmaker of the team, penetrate the interior with ease and score from the outside when needed. The 1986 Philippine team was made up of Dennis Still, Jeff Moore, Allan Caidic, Samboy Lim, Hector Calma, Franz Pumaren, Elmer Reyes, Yves Dignadice, Jerry Codinera, Pido Jarencio, Naning Valenciano, among others.

    We first got a taste of Hur Jae's potential when he played for the South Korean national youth team in the 1982 ABC Youth tournament held in Manila. South Korea lost to the Philippines 77-74 as the latter's victory catapulted them to the finals, beating China convincingly, 74-63. Players for that RP Youth team included Hector Calma, Alfie Almario, Teddy Alfarero, Jong Uichico, Derrick Pumaren, Louie Brill, Elmer Reyes, Richard Mendoza, Jun Tan, Tonichi Yturri (a late replacement for the injured John Copada), Leo Austria and Rey Cuenco.

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    Just a minor correction Mr JPM. Naning Valenciano was not part of our 1986 ABC champion RP team. For the record, the 12 man line-up is as follows: Hec Calma, Franz Pumaren, Pido Jarencio, Elmer Reyes, Allan Caidic, Samboy Lim, Alfie Almario, Jeff Moore, Yves Dignadice, Tonichi Yturri, Jerry Codinera & Dennis Still. The alternate who accompanied the team was Benjie Gutierrez (the UST hotshot guard).

    Valenciano though was part of the Northern Cement aspirants team that barnstormed the countryside and was definitely among the last cuts of coach Ron for the 1985-86 team.

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    My bad. Thanks Peja for the heads-up. I mixed up Almario with Valenciano and missed out Yturri from the list. Some of the other last cuts in Ron Jacobs' team included former Air 21 coach Bong Ramos, Jun Tan and yes, Valenciano...

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    so, he was a streak shooter..?

    if we were to compare his game to any current player (active ones), do we have anyone worthy of that distinction..?

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    You can probably compare him to the Chinese Taipei player Chen who burned the hoops in our game against them at the William Jones Cup last year. The Chen guy though was more frisky, athletic and mobile as Shin had less moves but with the more outstanding outside touch. Hard to compare him with any of today's present crop of players all over the world since Shin was actually not that cat-quick but has a quick release that normally finds the mark. The closest I can think of would be his South Korean co-player Lee Chung Hee...

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    Kung sikat si Shin Dong Pa noon dito sa atin, the most feared naman na player natin sa Korea noon eh si Jun Papa.

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    Jun Papa, Bogs Adornado and Danny Florencio were our top gunners with the 1971 ABC team. Surprisingly though, Robert Jaworski was the most consistent scorer in the team as he averaged close to 12 points per game in the 8 games that we played back in 1971. I believe Adornado was the team's top scorer with Papa and Florencio averaging in twin digits as well. Manny Paner was the team's center with Big Boy Reynoso as his chief reliever. Our first five back then included Jaworski, Florencio, Papa, Adornado and Paner - with only Florencio standing below 6'0 tall. The team averaged 6'1 in height - relatively tall for Filipino standards back then...

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    Thumbs down

    THE only thing I don't like about Shin Dong Pa is that he has aligned himself with the obsolete Chinese-controlled BAP.

    Shin, a many-time Manila visitor through the invitation of his Chinese friend Graham Lim, is a ranking officer of the BAP's bogus Asian Universities Basketball Championship.

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    it must be villuafuerte and pichay who are protecting graham from deportation ano? its such an outrageous situation that even though the supreme court already approved his deportation that graham is still 'miraculously' in the philippines only in the philippines

    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyServinio View Post
    THE only thing I don't like about Shin Dong Pa is that he has aligned himself with the obsolete Chinese-controlled BAP.

    Shin, a many-time Manila visitor through the invitation of his Chinese friend Graham Lim, is a ranking officer of the BAP's bogus Asian Universities Basketball Championship.

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    I can also compare him to the great Chinese player "Ma Jian"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KG21 View Post
    I can also compare him to the great Chinese player "Ma Jian"...
    yung naging import sa pbl dati..?
    he still playing..?

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