Club Astoria

[choyy]

same category din ba ang crown regency? me tumatawag din kasi sa amin na ganyang ganyan ang style. Parang mga preneed companies na bibigyan ka daw ng free accident insurance basta iclaim mo ng personal. Pagpunta mo dun sangkatutak na kulitan para bumili ka ng mga products nila. Hwag tayong paloloko sa kanila. Tandaan natin na walang libre sa mundo. Lahat me kapalit.

[mcmcmacky]

when we were in boracay last november, someone came up to us and invited us for a free dinner buffet. "soft-opening" daw ng isang hotel, i forgot the name but is connected with astoria. so we filled up a form and agreed to go, its free naman kasi.

then we were so busy that night we forgot about it na. the girl from astoria called us and asked us to come over since our name has been listed na daw, sayang daw yung table reservation. so we went. they were accommodating naman but before we got to eat, another girl came up and told us that their GM would talk to us for a few minutes lang daw. and she left us with a pen and a survey form. so sige okay lang, we answered the sheet and when it was finished, the GM went to us. interviewed us a bit, about where we work, how much do i get, about travel etcetera. Then the GM told us that we can finally eat. So we ate.

Here's the catch: We were told after eating that we're invited for a preview of the rooms, since theyre newly opened daw, as they always say. So sige, early pa naman.

Then a guy called us in, pero not for viewing, the guy said na may iooffer lang daw *** samin since we love to travel daw and everything. todo marketing talaga. 10-min discussion lang daw. O sige ulit, kasi nakakaawa yung lalaki, IMHO, he doesnt look like the mktg exec that you'd be impressed. he looks untidy. but we let it go nalang since beach setting naman kasi, bka ganun lang ****..

So eto na yung discussion, about travel. literal. and they made us compute on amounts that is not feasible to our status. we're talking about hundreds of pesos here. i hoped he realized that we were really not interested and my husband is getting pissed na.

45 minutes later:

After the supposed-to-be-10-minute-discussion, finally, i got an important call and had to escape from the timeshare demonstration, the mktg guy called his GM and was told that we had to leave, and we really need to. The GM told us to give him our last 5 minutes. Okay.

He offered us the RCI Timeshare; Astoria Club Membership for a whopping 5 million pesos. Offered for that night lang "daw".

And so we fled.

Moral of the story: Presume that there is always something in exchange of a free food.

PS: we went back to the hotel in dire hunger.

[chalim]

^mga sis my aunt just attended their presentation. Of course she said no, she just got the GC that was promised to her when they called her from the travel expo at MOA last last weekend.

may nakagamit na ba ng hotel sa thailand or bali, indonesia? san yung hotel sa thailand? we are willing naman to pay 5K pero baka naman super layo ng hotel. I just want to hear from someone who has used their GC na and actually stayed in a hotel using the GC.

thanks so much!

[marcusdarbus]

How True That A Member Could Convert His/her Total Cashout To A Property At Southforbes If He/she Is Not Interested To Travelling Anymore?.. They Say That It Could Be Deducted To The Price Of A Property That You Want To Acquire Or Be A Downpayment?....is The Process Not So Complicated?

[Iheartgingerale]

I don't think its 5 million. Attended something like that before and its not 5 million is quite exagerrated.

[BeerhandBop]

"same category din ba ang crown regency? me tumatawag din kasi sa amin na ganyang ganyan ang style. Parang mga preneed companies na bibigyan ka daw ng free accident insurance basta iclaim mo ng personal."


Those ones simply rent the hotel meeting/ function room. the hotels have nothing to do with those companies.

[beckham07]

para sa mga nagtatanong about sa GC, nagamit ko ang free bali nila, ang hotel na binigay samn yun sa kuta which is the best area to stay, ok naman ang hotel, one week free stay, tapat pa ng room namen yung swimming pool and yes paguwe binigay naman ang 5000 deposit ko basta me resibo ka lang ng kahit ano just to prove na nasa bali ka nga which is the usual SOP din naman sa mga companies na pinagtatravel ang employees nila. matagal lang ang booking, one month daw pero mas makulit ako kesa sa kanila kaya binigyan kagad ako ng confirmation.
time shares are not a scam, RCI member ang tita ko pero maganda lang ito sa mahilig talaga magtravel at sa pangpamilya, sulit na sulit, our RCI membership is the main reason why we got approves sa US VISA, the consul was impressed sa hotel resort na binook samin ng RCI sa Orlando.
but as i have said, maganda lang ang time shares sa family na mahilig magtravel!

[BeerhandBop]

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but as i have said, maganda lang ang time shares sa family na mahilig magtravel!"

except you can only travel 1 to 2 weeks total in a year.

LoL.pwn7.

[Afflicted1]

when we were in boracay last november, someone came up to us and invited us for a free dinner buffet. "soft-opening" daw ng isang hotel, i forgot the name but is connected with astoria. so we filled up a form and agreed to go, its free naman kasi.

then we were so busy that night we forgot about it na. the girl from astoria called us and asked us to come over since our name has been listed na daw, sayang daw yung table reservation. so we went. they were accommodating naman but before we got to eat, another girl came up and told us that their GM would talk to us for a few minutes lang daw. and she left us with a pen and a survey form. so sige okay lang, we answered the sheet and when it was finished, the GM went to us. interviewed us a bit, about where we work, how much do i get, about travel etcetera. Then the GM told us that we can finally eat. So we ate.

Here's the catch: We were told after eating that we're invited for a preview of the rooms, since theyre newly opened daw, as they always say. So sige, early pa naman.

Then a guy called us in, pero not for viewing, the guy said na may iooffer lang daw *** samin since we love to travel daw and everything. todo marketing talaga. 10-min discussion lang daw. O sige ulit, kasi nakakaawa yung lalaki, IMHO, he doesnt look like the mktg exec that you'd be impressed. he looks untidy. but we let it go nalang since beach setting naman kasi, bka ganun lang ****..

So eto na yung discussion, about travel. literal. and they made us compute on amounts that is not feasible to our status. we're talking about hundreds of pesos here. i hoped he realized that we were really not interested and my husband is getting pissed na.

45 minutes later:

After the supposed-to-be-10-minute-discussion, finally, i got an important call and had to escape from the timeshare demonstration, the mktg guy called his GM and was told that we had to leave, and we really need to. The GM told us to give him our last 5 minutes. Okay.

He offered us the RCI Timeshare; Astoria Club Membership for a whopping 5 million pesos. Offered for that night lang "daw".

And so we fled.

Moral of the story: Presume that there is always something in exchange of a free food.

PS: we went back to the hotel in dire hunger.

what happened to us last december is exactly the same as this. Yung manager nila yung singkit na mukhang may Peso sign sa mata. May calculator pang gamit para lituhin ka. pinipilit nila kame na kumuha ng membership eh hindi nga namen kaya. Nagkabadtripan pa kame ng girlfriend ko nun. Inubos nila yung oras namen pero buti nlang naging ok din kame ng girlfriend ko ulet.. Masarap nga talaga yung food nila wala kang masasabi pero yun pala yung kapalit nun mas malaking pera kapag nauto ka nila. Kawawa yung mga foreigners at ilang tao na nakita kong nagfill-up ng membership. 1 day lang daw yung special offer, fool me! sobrang sinungaling lang talaga. Isipin nyo na lang hindi ko kelangan gumastos ng napakalaking halaga para makapagtravel. There's always cheap options available. Be practical. Siguro ok lang nga at somehow maganda rin yung offer nila para sa mga taong afford talaga at mayaman.

[beckham07]

"but as i have said, maganda lang ang time shares sa family na mahilig magtravel!"

except you can only travel 1 to 2 weeks total in a year.

LoL.pwn7."

yes 1 to 2 weeks in a year
sa P250,000 na investment (mura pa kse date)
= 200$ per room per night x 6nights = $1,200$ on a 1 week hotel stay

1200$ x 10 years = $12,000 X P47 exchange rate = 564,000 pesos that will be the hotel cost for your family if you went on vacation one full week every year for ten years pero shempre hindi mo sha dto sa pilipinas gagamitin daba! people with time shares are rich so they have visas to go to europe and america, so yah im LOLing with you. if you will be staying more than a week hindi pa ba masama yung 65,000 na nabawas sa gagastsin mo?
its not only limited sa points mo or the one week a year
nagrerelease sila ng special rate sa locked site nila para sa members lang, like when i used my titas membership, i was able to stay at boracay willy's resort ng one week pero 4,000 lang ang binayaran namen kse me promo sa special sa member, if you are a smart time share member , eto ang itetake advantage mo, the promos e ang one night sa willys 3k to 4k na e.

eto pa isa!
hotel per night sa BALI 125$ x 7 nights = 875$ x 47$ exchange rate = 41,125 total hotel cost ng one week stay namen sa Bali.
total investment sa astoria = 150 pesos pang gas para umattend ng free buffet at makinig sa kanila

i have to admit though that getting the reservation and the refund was really tricky

[beckham07]

and i fogot to mention the one week allotment sa plan ng share mo wasnt affected sa booking ko sa boracay, it was a promo they usually have......i think around same rate din pag international. unahan lang.

[BeerhandBop]

"200$ per room per night x 7nights = $1,400$ on a 1 week hotel stay"


200 dollars a night can get you a nice hotel OF YOUR CHOICE.
Dun palang natalo ka na sa Astoria.


"people with time shares are rich so they have visas to go to europe and america, so yah im LOLing with you. if you will be staying more than a week hindi pa ba masama yung 65,000 na nabawas sa gagastsin mo?"


As i've said, 200 usd a night can get you a better hotel elsewhere. and hindi pa pahirapan ang booking if may open space o wala. you control your vacation.


take for example, LAS VEGAS... right now, if you book to say PARIS, 3 night's stay (4d 3 n) would only set you back 240 USD taxes included.

so 1 night at your time share's cr@ppy Hotel == 3 nights na sa Paris pa. Ikaw pa ang pipili kung anong araw ka pupunta.

the time shares really arent scams naman. but the fact that you have to pay so much money upfront and then be only able to use 7 to 14 days of vacation time per year, is really the $tupid part.

the money could be used in business and in a year's time, the same money will grow atleast 1.5 times already. (9 years, atleast 5x)

so let's say 9 years x 1,400 == 12,600 USD (x 47) == 590,000+ that's not a small amount really. 600k is a good pandagdag sa puhunan na yan. and after 1 year, that 600k may be worth at least 900k.


that's 300k more than what you had last year. that's 5,000 USD more money for VACATION. for a hotel of your choice, and at the date that you command.

so honestly... Where do you win here?


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"eto ang itetake advantage mo, the promos e ang one night sa willys 3k to 4k na e."

they're giving you chump change back for your hefty investment.

think about it. natutuwa ka naman sa mga ganun.

it's the same thing as.. getting a piece of candy back after handing out 100 pesos.

[beckham07]

did i mention na 250,000 pesos lang ang investment, 20,000 down yung rest hulugan 5,000 lang monthly???? it aint 600,000, the 600,000 is what you will get with your 250,000

kme naman kung kelan namen gustong date yun ang binibigay samin, me plans kasi yan e

and the fact that our US consul was so impressed sa hotel resort na binook samin ng RCI kaya binigyan kme ng US visa , siguro naman tama lang na sabihin na hindi crappy ang hotels nila, sa boracay naman station 1 naman ang hotel na binigay sakin, beachfront pa, sako sa birthday ko, the date that i wanted.

anyway, hotel bookings naman depende sa preference mo, 2 hotels and 2 weeks ang reservation namen sa orlando, 1 week lang ang alloted sa tita ko, we advanced it......so hindi naman naten pwedeng sabihin na isa lang ang crappy hotel nila kse nakapili naman ng 2 hotels sa isang lugar .



well as i have said pang traveller lang to and oh by the way yung ten years ng tita ko na allotted weeks naubos namen in 4 years, you can advance your week usage...
these are advantageous for a someone who loves vacations like me me panata kse ako sa buhay na lumabas ng bansa at least once a year.....
and one more thing, these time shares are for those w/ extra money to spare, shemprekung konti lang ang pera mo iinvest mo na lang no kesa sa magtravel ka. common sense lang po. live within your means.
right now i dont have a time share , nakikiapid lang, but given a chance i will get one, sayang din naman un special offers nila for members every month na 25 singapore dollars 3 days 2 nights na hotel sa singapore etc. which doesnt affect your week allocations at all, sobrang advantage to sa panata ko sa buhay daba, maisahan mo sila kung special promos nila which they always offer naman ang tataluhin mo.

as i have said pang mahilig lang magtravel to and sa me pera, kung wala ka pera maginvest ka na nga lang at kung kumita ka chaka ka na lang magpabuook ng hotel

speaking from experience lang.


bottom line kung me pera ka at mahilig kang magtravel outside the country at mataas ang standard mo sa hotel kumuha ka
kung wala kang pera magantay ka na lang na magkapera ka bago ka magtravel kse mas madameng dapat pagkagastusan anjan naman ang sogo baket ka pa magvivictoria court

[beckham07]

edited, pinagsama ko lang sa taas

[BeerhandBop]

I'm sorry. you speak as if your family belongs to an elite class. when in truth time share companies go after the MIDDLE CLASS.

[beckham07]

hindi kme elite, middle class lang , isa lang ang bahay namen at kotse, hindi kme naapprubahan ng visa dahil sa bank account 150,000 lang ang laman 8 pa kme, .... priority lang talaga namen ang magtravel kanya kanyang trip sa buhay yan, yun iba pagkakuha ng sweldo takbo sa inuman, ako travel ang priority ko while im still young, kanya kanya ng hilig so as for mario something, baket ka nga naman magiinvest sa "PI na astoria" kung hindi ka naman mahilig magtravel db?? sayang ang points!!!

[BeerhandBop]

your words not mine:

1.) "hindi kme naapprubahan ng visa dahil sa bank account 150,000 lang ang laman 8 pa kme"

2.) "and one more thing, these time shares are for those w/ extra money to spare"

[beckham07]

yes, 150,000 show money for the 8 of us e ang pamasahe paunta US 50k isa , kulang pa diba? so my point is it was as you mentioned the "crappy" hotel that RCI booked for us kaya kme nabigyan ng visa the consul said "this is the biggest resort in Orlando" and there are tons of resorts in orlando dahil andun ang biggest disneyland.
and i insist we are not elite kse ang kaisa isa nameng bahay e katabe ang basurahan at skwater ng paranaque, ang kotse namen e 15 years old, it is an insult to the elitist for us to be in that category, it just so happens that the family loves to travel together that's why dun kme naginvest. sure me extra money talaga kme kse wala kmeng credit card na binabayaran at ang celfone namen e second hand lang na hindi [pa modelo at wala kmeng mga bisyo depende lang naman yan kung san mo nilalagay ang pera mo e, we have extra money enought to travel kse dun namen inilalaan.....it is a matter of what makes you happy.

again uulitin ko ang punto ko hindi ito pwede sa mga hindi mahilig magtravel at walang extra money. otherwise you will really feel scammed.

speaking from experience lang po.

i have the authority to say that this particular apple is sweet because i have actually tasted it.

it's too harsh to say that time share is a scam because they offered you free food and made you sit for hours against your will.
ganyan din ang credit cards, ililibre ka ng isang taon na membership para malubog ka sa utang. and yes they make kulit too.
paraparaan, kanya kanyang diskarte para makabenta , isipin mo na lang na hindi family first yan otherwise payong lang ang napala mo at hindi expensive buffet sa hotel pa

[BeerhandBop]

and i'd like to summarize.

1.) first post - no money to spare.
2.) 2nd post - we have money to spare.

[beckham07]

i was clearing lang po what you said that my family is an elite, middle class lang kme sa basurahan nga lang kme nakatira e, it is an isult to the elitist kung ihahanay kme sa knila db?

kung me extra money na *** ang tao elite na, ganun po ba?

kung me celfone ka, ipod, laptop, pc , psp, ps or any other wants not needs, you used your extra money to buy that. it is a choice where we put that extra money. travelling is a want not a need.