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[techjunkie88]

Guys, what do you think of G&W Architects Company and Century Properties? Maganda ba ang quality ng condos nila?

[rozzwell]

One thing I know is that It's a way for Megaworld, Ayala, and other Real Estate companies to suck you away from your lifesavings by the mere sign of an acceptance receipt. It's like giving them the authority to look after your property even if you haven't used it.

right. because when i visited the place the security was tight. super strict at tagal bago ako (w/ my family) pinapasok. the security had to wait a confirmation from the main office na ako nga ay homeowner nila.

nung nasa site na kami mayat maya may mga guards na lalapit to remind us na bawal mag take ng pictures ng mga bahay ng kapitbahay for their privacy , bawal mag ingay. daming bawal w/c is maganda. that's why i like Portofino alabang. mahal nga lang at may homeowners fee na kahit wala pang bahay.

[AltarBoy^_^]

Also, be wary of their building administrators who charge you with their fees. They are fast when it comes to asking for fees but they rarely go as fast when it comes to addressing such problems when damage is unseen within your unit. Bureaucracy at its best.

For the record, the tenure of a building manager in Forbeswood for the year 2008 alone was around 4 months. They changed 3 times since I got my unit around February last year. Hopefull the last person who held the position will last longer than the rest. They are probably as stressed as the tenants who complain a lot like me. And it reinforces the fact that they can't address each and every problem with ease.

[realtor_jimi]

Guys, what do you think of G&W Architects Company and Century Properties? Maganda ba ang quality ng condos nila?

Hi TechJunkie, Thanks for your interest with Century Properties! To answer your question, please let me refer you to my thread "The Best Condo in the Philippines" which is also under this category. Best regards!

[crimson25]

This is how someone explained it to me why we investors have to pay monthly dues even before we have our keys...

Regardless if how many people have the turnover, the building has still needs to operate...
The common areas have to be lit, AC and elevators have to be turned on, the condo staff has to be in place, the common area have to be maintained...

Now if everybody turns over later how will the condo be maintained in the earlier stages. What happens if some investors purposely delays their turnover, Would the people who got their keys shoulder the additional monthly dues that the other investor haven't paid?

Some developers don't charge dues until building occupied to a certain percent but they already accounted for this when they sold you the unit (its built in the contract price).

hmmm, this is weird. ganun na ba ang patakaran ngayon? we bought a unit before from empire east (megaworld's affordable arm), and, as usual, delayed rin ang pag turnover sa amin dati, but, we were only asked to pay for dues upon turnover of our unit.

anyway, if anyone's interested in buying a fully furnished, 2br loft type condo unit at Greenhills Garden Square, please pm me or contact me at 0917-5007325. Virtually unused. price is at P3.2M. Location is along Bonnie Serrano Ave., (formerly Santolan) QC. Malapit sya sa camp crame; it's also beside Avida Towers New Manila.

@jandeux: ang sipag mo nga mag post hahaha. that's the secret pala.

[crimson25]

FYI, be careful of FIL-ESTATE!! 400 plus of their SouthWoods golf shares don't have certificates! And they allow this to be traded in the secondary market! Malas mo lang if you bought one of these! You won't have a certificate of title! And hard to sell again! Their other projects like Sherwoods & Forest Hills are also languishing! Down in value & nobody wants to buy so impossible to unload! Last thing I heard, they were bringing in Korean investors! Beware...a lot of their properties have title problems!

Careful of DMCI also!! All of their projects are cheap & geared towards the OFW market!! So your neighbors will be relatives of OFWs! In Mayfield Park in Cainta/Pasig they have put up a sari-sari store in one of the units fronting the clubhouse!! Then they formed a gang called Spartans to support the sari-sari store operator so she wouldn't be kicked out! These Spartans are composed of uneducated, out of work relatives of OFWs who just bum around day in & day out, playing basketball & drinking in front of the sari-sari store! They also drink in the clubhouse till the wee hours of the morning! The guards can't do anything about them since they are close to the manager! Last Christmas, during the Christmas party, they beat somebody up! Ran after him up to his unit & broke all the windows to his unit! They also overcharge homeowners for monthly dues! Imagine paying P400 a month for monthly dues on your 12 sqm parking space!! A group of homeowners is quarreling with DMCI for takeover of the project while another group is organizing for retention of the project with DMCI! Ang gulo! Parang tenement of squatters! Jeeploads of OFW relatives would come & swim in the pool dressed like they were in manila bay, spitting in the pool & others!!! Then they go up to their units all wet! Their children play with the elevators, up & down all day long!!

yikes! pero baka isolated case lang ito for this particular project? does the upper management of dmci know about this? this certainly destroys their image and maybe, if they knew about it, baka naman may magawa sila.

oh well ...

[crimson25]

right. because when i visited the place the security was tight. super strict at tagal bago ako (w/ my family) pinapasok. the security had to wait a confirmation from the main office na ako nga ay homeowner nila.

nung nasa site na kami mayat maya may mga guards na lalapit to remind us na bawal mag take ng pictures ng mga bahay ng kapitbahay for their privacy , bawal mag ingay. daming bawal w/c is maganda. that's why i like Portofino alabang. mahal nga lang at may homeowners fee na kahit wala pang bahay.

i think it's normal practice for developers to charge lot owners the homeowner's fee even if they haven't built a house yet. because, being a lot owner, you can already access the subdivision's facilities and of course, the upkeep of landscaping, the roads, security, etc. basta turned over na sayo yung lot mo, kasama ka na sa pag bayad ng dues.

[DirtyGolfMan]

yikes! pero baka isolated case lang ito for this particular project? does the upper management of dmci know about this? this certainly destroys their image and maybe, if they knew about it, baka naman may magawa sila.

oh well ...

Don't know if this is an isolated case??? But upper management surely knows about this cause this has been going on for 2 years already! The homeowners have written them countless letters & posted on their website but they haven't done anything! Typical of DMCI & other low cost developers! In fact these complaints have already reached HLURB!!! Well....if you have been in the real estate field for a long time already, you must probably know of their BAD record regarding Dansalan Gardens and Universal Rightfield 5 in one country clubs!!!!

[Client_Magnet]

Hi DirtyGoldMan,

Good Day!

May I know if you are a unit owner of Mayfield in Pasig? May I know your unit information, your name and your concern for me to send it to the higher management.

By the way, all condo projects of DMCI have thier own PROPERTY MANAGEMENT OFFICE within the building. They are the one in-charged in the maintenance of the building and at the same time, in-charged in all of the concerns of the unit owners. Have you already raised your concern to the PROPERTY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS within the building?

Regards,
Client_Magnet

[papabirth]

Imagine paying P400 a month for monthly dues on your 12 sqm parking space!!

Huwag kayo maniniwala dito, naninira lang ito.

Kailan pa nagkaroon ng monthly due charge sa condo na ang basehan ay ang parking area? Ang monthly dues ay binabase sa unit area lang at hindi kasama ang area ng parking sa pag-compute ng monthly dues. Siguro iyong may mga condo unit at nakatira sa condo alam ito.

Salamat.

[jeepneyko]

so far maganda naman ang P.A.Alvarez dito sa south of manila. ang mga units nila is selling like hotcakes especially dito sa isang site nila malapit sa daang hari...

[DirtyGolfMan]

Hi DirtyGoldMan,

Good Day!

May I know if you are a unit owner of Mayfield in Pasig? May I know your unit information, your name and your concern for me to send it to the higher management.

By the way, all condo projects of DMCI have thier own PROPERTY MANAGEMENT OFFICE within the building. They are the one in-charged in the maintenance of the building and at the same time, in-charged in all of the concerns of the unit owners. Have you already raised your concern to the PROPERTY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS within the building?

Regards,
Client_Magnet

As I said we have informed the PMO office in the person of "Buboy" or Leonides Gamilla a long, long time ago! In fact what is happening in Mayfield has been the talk of the town in the meetings of agents in DMCI!!! We have also posted this in various websites & forums! We have also given a written complaint to DMCI with the names of unit owners included in the roster & signed!!! They have sent an attorney to meet with the unit owners to no avail! The PMO is the problem if you don't still get it!!!

I noticed that you are selling Illuminada! Aren't you aware of the problems in Mayfield and other DMCI projects??? I am surprised!! Unless you are a newly accredited agent with them! Another thing is the turnover of agents with DMCI is high! Most of the agents we have dealt with are no longer there! Does this now convince you that we are unit owners in Mayfield? Why would you like to pinpoint us individually? Hmmm...are you maybe planted by DMCI & planning to retaliate in some sort??? Please check with DMCI and your fellow agents and even with HLURB!!!! All our complaints are documented there!!! Thank you!

[DirtyGolfMan]

Huwag kayo maniniwala dito, naninira lang ito.

Kailan pa nagkaroon ng monthly due charge sa condo na ang basehan ay ang parking area? Ang monthly dues ay binabase sa unit area lang at hindi kasama ang area ng parking sa pag-compute ng monthly dues. Siguro iyong may mga condo unit at nakatira sa condo alam ito.

Salamat.

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Obviously you did not read our post carefully!! Or did not understand it!!!

This was part of our post >>>>> "They also overcharge homeowners for monthly dues! Imagine paying P400 a month for monthly dues on your 12 sqm parking space!!"

What we meant that aside from the P1,680 per month that you are paying for monthly dues on a standard condo unit of 48 sqm, you still pay P437.50 per month for your 12 sqm parking space!!!!! You can check if you don't believe!!! Did I say that the monthly dues are based on the area of the parking??? Kailangan pa bang tagalugin yan????? "hindi kasama ang area ng parking sa pag-compute ng monthly dues" >>> TALAGA HA????? Exactly what we've been trying to say!!! SINO ANG NANINIRA NGAYON???? All that we have posted is true! Sorry na lang kung may naaapektuhan pero hindi ito kasinungalingan o paninira! Katotohanan lamang ito! Kung may nasasaktan e siguro pwedeng gumawa ng paraang malutas ito o lumipat na lang kayo ng trabaho!!!!!!!! And please people.....kindly read our posts carefully before reacting negatively or accusing other people of something!!!! With the details we have given, do all of you still think this is bogus??? Well......, we can't expect everyone to believe! It's your own lookout na lang! Just check how many units of Mayfield are now on the market and for sale or for rent!!! Not to mention those that have been foreclosed or abandoned!!! Visit the site!!! You will find for sale signs in a lot of the units!! Common Sense!!! If it is such a nice place to live in, how come a lot of homeowners have given up???

"Siguro iyong may mga condo unit at nakatira sa condo alam ito." >>>> IT'S NOT NICE TO BE SARCASTIC NOR CONDESCENDING OF OTHER PEOPLE!!!!!!

[realtor_jimi]

Hi Guys, How about checking out Century Properties Inc. in my site http://www.jaimecorpusproperties.com/ !

[realtor_jimi]

Oh BTW, thanks vpsec_ail for letting me post in your thread!

[papabirth]

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Obviously you did not read our post carefully!! Or did not understand it!!!

This was part of our post >>>>> "They also overcharge homeowners for monthly dues! Imagine paying P400 a month for monthly dues on your 12 sqm parking space!!"

What we meant that aside from the P1,680 per month that you are paying for monthly dues on a standard condo unit of 48 sqm, you still pay P437.50 per month for your 12 sqm parking space!!!!! You can check if you don't believe!!! Did I say that the monthly dues are based on the area of the parking??? Kailangan pa bang tagalugin yan????? "hindi kasama ang area ng parking sa pag-compute ng monthly dues" >>> TALAGA HA????? Exactly what we've been trying to say!!! SINO ANG NANINIRA NGAYON???? All that we have posted is true! Sorry na lang kung may naaapektuhan pero hindi ito kasinungalingan o paninira! Katotohanan lamang ito! Kung may nasasaktan e siguro pwedeng gumawa ng paraang malutas ito o lumipat na lang kayo ng trabaho!!!!!!!! And please people.....kindly read our posts carefully before reacting negatively or accusing other people of something!!!! With the details we have given, do all of you still think this is bogus??? Well......, we can't expect everyone to believe! It's your own lookout na lang! Just check how many units of Mayfield are now on the market and for sale or for rent!!! Not to mention those that have been foreclosed or abandoned!!! Visit the site!!! You will find for sale signs in a lot of the units!! Common Sense!!! If it is such a nice place to live in, how come a lot of homeowners have given up???

"Siguro iyong may mga condo unit at nakatira sa condo alam ito." >>>> IT'S NOT NICE TO BE SARCASTIC NOR CONDESCENDING OF OTHER PEOPLE!!!!!!

Totoy,

Pasensiya ka na pero naninira ka lang talaga. Unit owner din ako, pero kahit kailan hindi sinama sa computation ng monthly dues ko iyong area ng parking slot ko. Tanging unit area ko lang ang binasehan ng monthly dues ko. Kahit saang condo ganun ang patakaran ng condo management.

Simple lang naman ang sagot sa reklamo mo eh, kung totoo ka nga ha. Edi ibenta mo iyong unit ninyo sa Mayfield kung di ka talaga satisfied sa community ng condo mo. O baka kaya hindi mo mabenta kasi hindi sa iyo iyan at sa nanay mo hahahaha. O kaya utang lang iyan sa banko kaya kahit gusto mo na umalis hindi mo magawa...mas mahirap kasi mabenta ang unit mo kapag nakasanla sa banko eh... POOR BOY.

Sa susunod kasi bibili ka ng unit sa mga Developer na high end ang ino-offer para high-end din iyong serbisyo na ibibigay sa iyo. Hirap sa iyo, kukuha ka sa presyong masa tapos pang-palasyong serbisyo gusto mo. Sabagay, hindi ko masisisi kung hanggang below middle class lang ang kaya mo.

Sige, gawa ka na ng alternick para may kakampi ka sa usapan natin Ato. Sabagay, kaka-join mo lang nitong buwan na ito eh (January 2009). Baka madami ka ng altenicks.

[DirtyGolfMan]

Totoy,

Pasensiya ka na pero naninira ka lang talaga. Unit owner din ako, pero kahit kailan hindi sinama sa computation ng monthly dues ko iyong area ng parking slot ko. Tanging unit area ko lang ang binasehan ng monthly dues ko. Kahit saang condo ganun ang patakaran ng condo management.

Simple lang naman ang sagot sa reklamo mo eh, kung totoo ka nga ha. Edi ibenta mo iyong unit ninyo sa Mayfield kung di ka talaga satisfied sa community ng condo mo. O baka kaya hindi mo mabenta kasi hindi sa iyo iyan at sa nanay mo hahahaha. O kaya utang lang iyan sa banko kaya kahit gusto mo na umalis hindi mo magawa...mas mahirap kasi mabenta ang unit mo kapag nakasanla sa banko eh... POOR BOY.

Sa susunod kasi bibili ka ng unit sa mga Developer na high end ang ino-offer para high-end din iyong serbisyo na ibibigay sa iyo. Hirap sa iyo, kukuha ka sa presyong masa tapos pang-palasyong serbisyo gusto mo. Sabagay, hindi ko masisisi kung hanggang below middle class lang ang kaya mo.

Sige, gawa ka na ng alternick para may kakampi ka sa usapan natin Ato. Sabagay, kaka-join mo lang nitong buwan na ito eh (January 2009). Baka madami ka ng altenicks.

Oh wow!!! I'm getting a headache understanding this tagalog post!! Haven't practiced my tagalog in quite a while!!

Well, anyway, this guy is a fake or a member of the spartans group or an agent who doesn't know anything! If you have noticed in his posts, he hasn't come up with any details about his allegations unlike the details we have provided! All he does is insult the posts we have made! And what is this about alternicks??? How did that come into the picture?? Maybe his way of getting support?? By posting in several nicks?? If you are also a unit owner of Mayfield then you are admitting that you are also below middle class!!!!! Hahaha... It shows in the way you write, your choice of terms, your being ignorant of real estate transactions & the way you think!!! And what does our being a new member have to do with anything??? DUHHH!!!

People, all you have to do is check with REAL Mayfield owners!! Ask them for their statement of accounts for their monthly dues! You will see that dues are broken down as follows;
Monthly dues.....
Parking dues......
Water dues........

It's easy to get into Mayfield! The guards are lax! Just tell them you want to look into units for sale! Look at all the "FOR SALE" signs in all the buildings! Chances are you might even encounter the numerous impromptu, informal meetings of various homeowners who are agitating for the take-over of the management of Mayfield! Then go to the right end of the project where you will see a sari-sari store made out of an old container! There you will see istambays who drink beer & other liquor right beside the makeshift carwash!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do not believe liars whose only recourse is to say that all condo management do things that way!! >>>>> DON'T YOU HAVE ANY OTHER LOGICAL REPARTEE'???? We own a variety of condos & they don't do things all the same way!!

As to his other lies & condescending posts...How can you sell your units when those who have fully paid for the past 2 years are still waiting for their CCTs!!! Yes, it's true! Some unit owners who have paid for their units have yet to receive their CCTs even after 2 years!!!

And as to why we are not selling our unit, well...we are!! But you have to see how many units are for sale there!!! And how many units have been abandoned & foreclosed!! And as to his allegations that we can't sell the unit because our mother owns it...well, that doesn't make any sense does it?? All educated people know that you can sell units through SPAs!!! And as to it being loaned from a bank...people, DMCI has the easiest terms in the Philippines!! They have a no down, P10,000+ a month move in term!! Why in the world would you want to loan from a bank?? And as to it being harder to sell units that are mortgaged to a bank...well, obviously this ignorant person hasn't heard of assume balance transactions!! And if it were ever true that people loaned from a bank to buy properties....Well, they should be proud & not feel ashamed!!! Only people with money are able to get a loan from banks nowadays with the credit crisis & the tight lending policies!! It just shows how low that "papa lamunin" is for not understanding this point HAHAHAHA!!!!!! The richer you are....The more bank loans you can avail of!!!!! Its a reality of life!!!! So, who is the poor boy now eh? Even your nick is unimaginative & reeks of a lack of class & cheapness HAHAHA!!!

And as to buying from high end condos so you can get high end service, and buying low cost condos then expecting high end service.... Well, isn't this a cop-out kind of reasoning that is responsible for our country being in the situation that it is??? Isn't this a squatter kind of mentality?? If you paid good money for something, you should expect good service!! BESIDES, WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT PANG-PALASYONG SERBISYO??? Dear Boy, you must have read another post!! That didn't come from us!!!

Anyway, people...it's your own look-out! We have informed you of what is the real score! If you choose to believe someone who can't even speak english & tries to muddle the issue by character assassination & by being condescending, well good luck!!

We will no longer dignify posts by uneducated, uncultured animals who only wish to muddle up the issue with nonsense posts or replies!!! Its up to you whom you choose to believe & good luck in your investment!!

UH-OH!!! THE ENGLISH WE HAVE USED IS KINDA DEEP!!!! WE HOPE THIS IGNORAMUS IS STILL ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THIS!! OR ELSE HE WILL ONLY MAKE ANOTHER NONSENSICAL REPLY FROM THE INTERNET CAFE!!

[DirtyGolfMan]

Custom Location:
old walled city
Biography:
engineer/writer/realtor
Interests:
reading books, surfing the net, playing chess and game of the generals.
Occupation:
account manager / entrepreneur
Gender:
Male
Civil Status:
Single

By the way, this is papabirth's or papa lamunin's profile!!! An engineer/writer/realtor who plays game of the generals from the old walled city of intramuros!!!! Come on!!! You must be kidding!!! Game of the Generals!!! So passe & unoriginal!!! Game of the Generals is an exact copy of the USA game "STRATEGO" for those in the know!!!! If you own a unit at Mayfield, what are you doing in intramuros?? DUHHH!!! We all know how much engineers/writers/realtors make a month HAHAHA!!!!!!

[Mike 5 Apples]

Hmmm...Parang tahimik na dito ngayon! Tapos na ba ang away? Napahiya yata si papabirth e! Umangal pa kasi sa new member e sya e Sept 2008 lang nagmember! Tapos nanlalait ng mga nakabili sa mayfield e sya rin pala e may unit daw doon KUNO HA!?!? Tapos e writer lang pala at realtor hehe! Tapos chess at game of the generals ang interest nya! E CHEAP LANG YUN DI BA HEHEHE!!!! Respetuhin natin lahat ng opinyon kasi mga people! Dito lang tayo magkakaalaman at maproproteksyunan ang mga sarili natin sa mga mapagsamantalang developers at iba pa! Lalo na ngayong may krisis! Maraming developers ang mababankrupt at maraming projects ang hindi matutuloy! Tulad noong 1997 na financial crisis! Tulad ng Lee Gardens na yan na noon pang 1996 e lately lang natapos! Kalakalawang na yung mga bakal sa loob nyan! At dirtygolfman, naiintindihan ka namin pero hinay-hinay naman sa ingles! Dumudugo na tenga namin!

[pb_sanchez17]

how about *** marigold homes inc?..meron kasi ako nakita greenbrier village sa san mateo..mukhang ok naman...me feedback ba *** tungkol sa developer na to?