Math

[iRebirth]

Question:

Is Math 100 equivalent to either Math 53 or Math 54?

Thanks.

[klintz]

i think sa math 53 siya equivalent.

ang 54 kasi ay polar curves, etc... (pinagpalit ulit yung series) at medyo malayo na yung mga concepts ng 54 sa math 100.

[iRebirth]

i see. i'm asking because i want to take math 114, and the website says the prerequisite is Math 54. the thing is my course doesn't have 53 or 54.

would there be other equivalents to math 54? maybe 109?

many thanks.

[math_techie]

math 100 < math 53, and I think you won't be allowed to take 114 kung 100 lang ang nakuha mo.

[iRebirth]

but could math 53 and 54 substitute math 100? i'm a freshman economics major and i don't think the math subjects in our curriculum are adequate.

[p1215]

Probably not unless rules have changed. Back in the 80's math 53,54 & 55 were needed to substitute for math 100..

but could math 53 and 54 substitute math 100? i'm a freshman economics major and i don't think the math subjects in our curriculum are adequate.

[math_techie]

I think 53 and 54 are more than enough to compensate for 100.

Kulang ang math courses sa econ? baka naman nakaembed sa ibang econ courses yung mga math subjects na kakailanganin niyo

[JohnnyBBad]

Isn't math 100 like the easy calculus course, some sort of let's-skim-the-surface-of-calculus? You might want to check the curriculum of Math 53 and 54 vis-a-vis 100. Ultimately, it's your adviser who's gonna decide if you can get a subject that needs a pre-req, especially if it's outside your curriculum.

[p1215]

To iRebirth:

Math 100 is an easy calculus course. The way I see it, the only reason the entire 53 series was required as a substitute back in my time was "you don't encounter partial derivatives until math 55".

You will encounter the math you need in your mathematical economics subject. You'll probably be using a book by Alpha Chiang. For this subject, Math 100 should be adequate. But if you really want to learn the Math 53 series topics, you can just study on your own - I think the quickest way to get up to speed will be to start with the AP Mathematics books. After going through the AP Math books, you can fill in the gaps by doing the exercises in Thomas or Leihold.

[iRebirth]

thanks for the advice, everyone

i only asked because i've been comparing UP's Econ curriculum with that of foreign universities or even just that of Ateneo, and it seems that it's not up to par in terms of the quantitative rigor expected of the students.

for example, ADMU's Eco-H requires Elementary Analysis I & II and Linear Algebra, that's aside from the standard courses like econometrics. i guess i better consult a faculty adviser, but how do i get hold of one?

[p1215]

Options:
1. Ask the econ majors re: Econ.106 (Elements of Mathematical Economics), Econ 131 (Quantitative Economics)

2. You have 42 units of free electives in the BS Econ curriculum. This gives you enough flexibilty to take Math 53+54+55+114 = 16 units. If these are not enough for you, you can also take Math 109, Math 121.1and 121.2 (Differential equations 1&2), Math 122(Differential Equations and Applications) Math 123.1 and 123.2(Advance Calculus1&2), Math 126 (Real Analysis), Math 142 (Topology) + the Math 150.1 and 150.2 (Mathematical Statistics), Stat 1xx etc.

3. If you're still unhappy after considering Options 1 and 2, shift to physics and just take econ electives. Why? - 1)this will take care of the quantitative rigor, 2) there are people who do econophysics in NIP, 3) at the moment NIP is the best place in UP Diliman to get exposed to agent based approaches in economics (assuming you get into the right research lab).

[math_techie]

^ baka naman maging math major na siya niyan ,

pero iRebirth, ano ba talaga ang gusto mo econ o math?

[p1215]

Option 4 para kay iRebirth: Mag BS Math. Tapusin ng 3 o 3.5 years at dagdagan na lang ng Econ 101,102, 106, 121,131,141,151.

[iRebirth]

katakot-takot na Math namanman iyan! haha
Admittedly, I'm not a math whiz and I only raised this as a concern since I intend to pursue graduate studies in Econ. They say in preparation for that you need good grounding in both math and analysis. That's all.
I've even read some posts in the academe forum saying graduate programs in econ preferring BS Math grads to BS Econ grads.
Nevertheless, I never saw myself becoming a math major. Kapag nasa math bldg ako hindi ako makahinga haha At mas lalong hindi ko naimagine na maging physicist. Although "econophysics" sounds like an interesting field.
bahala na siguro. I'll ask around. May mga kilala akong may mga kakilalang kumukuha ng Stat electives at mayroon pa ngang engineering subjects as electives eh.

[boy_wonder]

Ako, balak kong mag-shift sa BS Math! Haha.. Problema ko lang, how would I convince my parents na payagan ako?

Hmmm, marami namang career opportunities with that degree diba?

[math_techie]

yeah...pero mind you, the BS Math Program by itself will not prepare you for any career in the industry, kailangan mo pang magspecialized sa isang field para magamit yung kung ano man ang matutunan mo sa BS Math mo.

[si maria]

my majors for this sem are math 11 and my course major. i got a 5 in math 11 (under cristina bargo). do i have to repeat it? or i just go on? i understand that it automatically disqualifies me from receiving latin honors when i graduate. so there. i didn't drop because i thought i was getting along just right though not very well. i was expecting a 3 or a 4, actually.

so now i wanna know whether i should take up math 11 again and also, what exactly does that 5 take away from me (e.g. cs, us, latin honors...)? and do i still have to get my card? do i have to get my class cards in all my subjects?

thanks a lot people!

by the way, my math 11 is a prereq for three of my future majors. dalawang econ and stat 101.

[p1215]

You have to take it again if it's required in your curriculum. If it's a prerequisite to other subject required in your curriculum, you can't take the next subjects. With a 5 you can't be cs or us this semester. You will still be eligible for latin honors but that grade of 5 will be included in the computaton of your CWAG even if you pass Math 11 in the future.

[oatokaidnih]

si maria:
kailangan mong kunin ulit ang math11 kasi sabi mo prereq siya. kung hindi mo siya maipapasa, hindi mo makukuha yung mga subjects mo na may prereq ng math11. Yung sa classcards, di mo naman na siya kailangang kunin, pero kunin mo na din para maalala mo si ma'am tina bargo

share ko lang...bagsak ako ng math 55 ngayong sem? ang hirap e 27/33 sa class namin ay bagsak pero ok lang. sino kaya gumawa ng mga exams namin?

[Kolmogorov]

kadami namang bumagsak!