A Question For Antitheists

[jmromano]

How do you comfort yourselves when somebody very dear to you is dying, like a son, daughter or a wife?

Or what do you say to your relatives or somebody close to you when their loved ones die to show that you sympathize w/ them? What do you say to somebody who cries on your shoulder because of his/her departed?

Thanks for the sincere replies (although insincere ones are also accepted).

[pinoyatheist]

How do you comfort yourselves when somebody very dear to you is dying, like a son, daughter or a wife?

Or what do you say to your relatives or somebody close to you when their loved ones die to show that you sympathize w/ them? What do you say to somebody who cries on your shoulder because of his/her departed?

Thanks for the sincere replies (although insincere ones are also accepted).

Sorry can't answer the question because it is address to antitheists not atheists.

[rickym]

i don't know what an antitheist is, but i'll answer anyway.

maybe i'm not a romantic, but i have no problems with people close to me dying. this is true, specially if they have lived a fruitful life. death is a transition and not a termination for me. i believe that a lot if not all attachment can be considered suffering. however if i go to to a funeral, in rome do as the romans do, i act sad.

[Jonga]

How do you comfort yourselves when somebody very dear to you is dying, like a son, daughter or a wife?

Or what do you say to your relatives or somebody close to you when their loved ones die to show that you sympathize w/ them? What do you say to somebody who cries on your shoulder because of his/her departed?

Thanks for the sincere replies (although insincere ones are also accepted).

if a family member is dying, or somebody dear to me is dying, ill just bury them and give proper honors and memorials. and ill make sure to remind myself always how this person affected my life and giv credit....thats all

as for other people who needs a "shoulder to cry on", ill just tell them that the dead person will kick your a$$ if he/she sees you crying, so stop it and instead be happy

its that the answer you want?

Sorry can't answer the question because it is address to antitheists not atheists.

hmmm...misotheists.....interesting....

[jmromano]

Sorry can't answer the question because it is address to antitheists not atheists.

Pls. click here for the definition of an "antitheist" or here for a more detailed info.

Anyway, whatever is your belief, you are still very much welcome to share your views. (I was wrong to specify only the antitheists. My apologies).

So, fire away kabayang atheist!

[micketymoc]

Antitheist? You're muddying the waters; why introduce another term for atheism when "atheist" does just fine, as well as cover Pexers who don't oppose God as much as they just don't believe in him?

[jmromano]

Pls. click here for the definition.

Frankly, I thought at first that "antitheist" and "atheist" is the same, until pinoyatheist said he is not an antitheist (w/c is obvious naman in the handle he is using).

OOPS, DELAYED NA PALA REPLY KO FOR MICKETYMOC.

[jmromano]

Antitheist? You're muddying the waters; why introduce another term for atheism when "atheist" does just fine, as well as cover Pexers who don't oppose God as much as they just don't believe in him?

But the link says, "All antitheists are atheists, but not all atheists are antitheists."

So I assume they are not the same?

[jmromano]

maybe i'm not a romantic,

Heheheh...so you think we should act like romeo and juliet when our loved ones die so that it will look romantic?

but i have no problems with people close to me dying. this is true, specially if they have lived a fruitful life. death is a transition and not a termination for me. i believe that a lot if not all attachment can be considered suffering.

No rickym, what I'm curious to know is what would you say to your loved one as he/she lay dying and you had the opportunity to talk to him/her before he/she will breath his/her last?

Would you tell him/her like, "don't worry baby, just die because you will just be 'transitioned' into something (if I used the right terminology)"? Anyway, are you a buddhist?

however if i go to to a funeral, in rome do as the romans do, i act sad.

[micketymoc]

But the link says, "All antitheists are atheists, but not all atheists are antitheists."

So I assume they are not the same?

Well, duh.

[Jonga]

Heheheh...so you think we should act like romeo and juliet when our loved ones die so that it will look romantic?

so how do you think the romans do it romantically?

[jmromano]

if a family member is dying, or somebody dear to me is dying, ill just bury them and give proper honors and memorials. and ill make sure to remind myself always how this person affected my life and giv credit....thats all

Sandali lang Jonga, huwag mo muna ilibing ang mahal mo sa buhay. Di pa **** sila namatay, naghihingalo pa lang naman.

Wouldn't you say something to him/her before he/she dies?

Would you tell the person like what an atheist I have read told his dying friend, "You know, I had a badnews/good news for you. The bad news is that you are dying. The good news is that after you die, you will no longer want anything anymore. So the bad news is not bad, after all. In fact, it is your consummate liberation".

as for other people who needs a "shoulder to cry on", ill just tell them that the dead person will kick your a$$ if he/she sees you crying, so stop it and instead be happy

You really deserve to be the official clown in this part of the worldwideweb jonga.

[jmromano]

so how do you think the romans do it romantically?

How did the romans come into the picture?

Anyway, back to the topic...

[Jonga]

Wouldn't you say something to him/her before he/she dies?

actually you were asking how i will comfort myself, so i answered honestly.

now you're asking how i will comfort the one who's dying, well it depends on their religion, ill just tell them what they wanna hear, if they want to go to heaven then so be it, they're gonna die anyways

but if some a$$hole comfort me by telling me bout GOD and heaven and delusional things, ill try to live longer and kick his/her a$$....mamatay na nga lang ako, gagag0hin pa ko

however if i go to to a funeral, in rome do as the romans do, i act sad.

thats where romans 'came' in

very funny, no? hence your

[jmromano]

actually you were asking how i will comfort myself, so i answered honestly.

Ah ok i got it, sorry. yes, your reply was appropriate.

now you're asking how i will comfort the one who's dying, well it depends on their religion, ill just tell them what they wanna hear, if they want to go to heaven then so be it, they're gonna die anyways

So, you will sort of ask them, "where do you wanna go: heaven, hell or just at the corner"? (I wonder if you heard of a dying person wanting to go to hell.

but if some a$$hole comfort me by telling me bout GOD and heaven and delusional things, ill try to live longer and kick his/her a$$....mamatay na nga lang ako, gagag0hin pa ko

So joker ka pa rin hanggang huli.

[Jonga]

So, you will sort of ask them, "where do you wanna go: heaven, hell or just at the corner"? (I wonder if you heard of a dying person wanting to go to hell.

read again, i said ill tell them what they wanna hear, i never said ill ask them where they wanna go...

So joker ka pa rin hanggang huli.

that wasnt even a joke.... for crying out loud....sheesh

heres a joke:

Heheheh...so you think we should act like romeo and juliet when our loved ones die so that it will look romantic?

do you even think it involves kissing and s3x?
sorry cant help it

[leslac]

A Question For Antitheists

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How do you comfort yourselves when somebody very dear to you is dying, like a son, daughter or a wife?

Or what do you say to your relatives or somebody close to you when their loved ones die to show that you sympathize w/ them? What do you say to somebody who cries on your shoulder because of his/her departed?

Thanks for the sincere replies (although insincere ones are also accepted).

i had a grandfather who was very close to me.. he was like a dad to me. i lost him 4 years ago and i thought that that was the saddest part of my life until i lost my baby 2 weeks ago... i'm alone (physically). i don't have relatives here in US and my husband was sent by his commander to korea. I had no one to hang on to but God. i was so depressed and so did my husband. We can never do anything about that but to accept. Loving life, Having faith that everything happens for a reason, believing that God knows what's better, being possitive and looking at the bright side really help a lot. it's really hard in the beginning but we just have to accept everyhting that's happening to us...

i started reading bible and life changing books more..
i sang gospel songs..
i talked to people who loves me, most especially to my husband and dad who made me strong..
and that's when i talked to God often as well...

that's how i comfort myself in times of bereavement.


it's hard to find a word to say to a friend who lost someone they really love. you can't even ask them if they're okay.. and it's not proper to tell them that everything will be alright. I don't know.. it depends. Some will appreciate your sympathy and some will say they don't need it. and sometimes, you don't have to say a thing. just being there for them, hold their hand and tell them how sad and sorry you are for what happened can help a lot. i just wait until they say or ask me something. that's when i talk...

[rickym]

Heheheh...so you think we should act like romeo and juliet when our loved ones die so that it will look romantic?

some people cry too much, i find some of them too sentimental, maybe romantic is not the right term

No rickym, what I'm curious to know is what would you say to your loved one as he/she lay dying and you had the opportunity to talk to him/her before he/she will breath his/her last?

depends, if he/she is a loved one who shares the same thoughts as me- i'd tell her that if she can manage, to send me a message thru my dreams or whatever on what exists on the other side and if what we believe in is true. that wouldn't be insensitive on my part since i'd do the same favor for him/her.

if he/she is a theist
--if he/she is nice to me- i'd tell him/her what he/she wants to hear.
----be sweet, nice and reassuring.
--if he/she was a pain in the neck and trying to convert me
----hahaha, i wouldn't really know what i'd say.
------i just might say, you'd better be right with what you believe in
------because i if you find out that i'm right,
------i won't be there to help you

Anyway, are you a buddhist?

if i were to pick a major religion it would be buddhist. there are things though that i kinda disagree with.

[jmromano]

read again, i said ill tell them what they wanna hear, i never said ill ask them where they wanna go...

I wonder how can you tell them what they want to hear unless you ask them first what they want to hear?

And I assume one of the things they want to hear from you is about their destination, because you said, "....if they want to go to heaven then so be it....".

[jmromano]

some people cry too much, i find some of them too sentimental, maybe romantic is not the right term

Glad you changed the term to "sentimental", before somebody make a big fuss out of "romantic".

depends, if he/she is a loved one who shares the same thoughts as me- i'd tell her that if she can manage, to send me a message thru my dreams or whatever on what exists on the other side and if what we believe in is true. that wouldn't be insensitive on my part since i'd do the same favor for him/her.

if he/she is a theist
--if he/she is nice to me- i'd tell him/her what he/she wants to hear.
----be sweet, nice and reassuring.
--if he/she was a pain in the neck and trying to convert me
----hahaha, i wouldn't really know what i'd say.
------i just might say, you'd better be right with what you believe in
------because i if you find out that i'm right,
------i won't be there to help you

Hmmmnn...very interesting...and funny, as well.

if i were to pick a major religion it would be buddhist. there are things though that i kinda disagree with.

I have read that Gautama Buddha left his family and all that belongs to him to live a solitary life. And I think buddhism is about eliminating man's "desire" to attain "perfection"?

Pls. correct me if im wrong. Thanks.