Starcraft 2 Discussion Thread

[subsonicsky]

paano ko kung protoss ang unit ko gusto ko kunin yung worker ng terran at zerg

In SC1 that was the Dark Archon, which you get by merging two Dark Templars.

As pointed out by siyado, wala na yan sa SC2. And the Neural Parasite ability on Infestors only give you temporary control. So if you capture a Probe, build the Nexus ASAP (or pass it along multiple Infestors until you get it to your base). If you capture an SCV, you need to case Neural Parasite multiple times for the Command Center to complete.

[victoryliner]

thanks for info sir i test it

[Fallschirmjager]

Congratulations to Jangbi (Heo Yeong Moo), the last ever OSL Champion for Starcraft Broodwar. His win marks the end of the Brood War era in Korea.

[siyado]

^ that finals was so one-sided. flash would've done a much better job against jangbi. too bad he lost 0-3 to fantasy in the ro4.

[Fallschirmjager]

^not taking anything away from Flash, he is the greatest BW player ever, but Fantasy showed in their semifinals that even a god can bleed.

Their first 2 games showed how well Fantasy prepared for Flash.

Flash's style usually centers around a great macro game. He just out-mines you, creates an impregnable defense with tanks and turrets and steamrolls you in the end with a push or mass drop play.

How did Fantasy counter this? By exploiting two weaknesses.
1.) In opening up with an econ build (ex. his pet 14cc which he used in both of those games), Flash usually stretches himself thin defensively.
2.) Flash doesn't usually go for air superiority with his mech builds but relies on drops.

[spoiler start]Fantasy countered beautifully by going for air superiority with Wraiths. TvT usually devolve around stalemated tank siege lines and mass drop play. In game 1, Fantasy took the central position, allowing him to attack/harrass Flash's more numerous expos at the hinges. Then, his Wraiths denied Flash the ability to reinforce his bases with troops by shooting down. Flash tried to doom drop but it failed allowing Fantasy to destroy Flash's expos at will.

In the 2nd game, Fantasy exploited gaps in Flash's lines nicely with his signature Vulture harass. Again, he was able to take the central position and from there, neutralized Flash gradually. The 3rd game was an absolute blunder from Flash; he didn't build his Academy knowing that Wraiths were on the way.[spoiler end]

I think Fantasy deserved that finals slot. With his victory over Flash, he was 9-0, essentially undefeated in the tournament, going into the finals. He is a one-time OSL champion and 3-time runner up (now 4 with the loss to Janbi). If he won against Stork and Jaedong, he would have tied the likes of Nada and Flash with the most OSL wins ever and arguably challenge Flash for the title of best BW player ever. Lastly, he was out for revenge against the close loss to Jangbi in last year's finals.

Jangbi, otoh, is no spring chicken himself. This guy went from the lowest of lows (probably the worst slump in BW pro-gaming history) to the highest of highs (his miraculous Legends of the Fall OSL run last year was just pure epicness). He did take out Flash last year in the Ro8, beating Flash in the clincher in a sick maxed out slugfest. And who could forget his come-from-behind game 5 win against Fantasy? He almost never made it back to the finals if not for another miracle (actually two) against Zero.

Re: this year's finals. I agree that it wasn't as epic as last year. Janbi's 3 wins [spoiler start]came essentially from an unexpected carrier build, a proxy robo and a DT rush. Fantasy's lone victory came when Jangbi failed a DT rush, which was properly scouted and countered[spoiler end] But, unlike last year, I think Jangbi came in more prepared this time. Fantasy is usually known for his crazy builds during important matches, but Jangbi brought tricks of his own this time. I wouldn't necessarily call it cheese, like when Effort cheesed the hell out of Flash two years ago. But still, a fitting end to the Brood War era.

[vict0ryliner]

Hackers hit Blizzard game network
August 10, 2012 8:01pm


Hackers struck anew this week, stealing the data of users of the Battle.net game network run by game publisher Blizzard Entertainment.

Blizzard president and co-founder Mike Morhaime said their security team discovered an unauthorized and illegal access into the firm's internal network.

"Some data was illegally accessed, including a list of email addresses for global Battle.net users, outside of China. For players on North American servers (which generally includes players from North America, Latin America, Australia, New Zealand, and Southeast Asia) the answer to the personal security question, and information relating to Mobile and Dial-In Authenticators were also accessed," he said.

However, he said this information alone is not enough for anyone to gain access to Battle.net accounts.

Also, he said there is no evidence at this time that the hackers compromised financial information such as credit cards, billing addresses, or real names.

"Our investigation is ongoing, but so far nothing suggests that these pieces of information have been accessed," he said.

For now, he said Blizzard is working with law enforcement and security experts to investigate what happened.

* passwords

Morhaime also said cryptographically scrambled versions of Battle.net passwords and not the actual passwords for players on North American servers were taken.

He said Blizzard uses Secure Remote Password protocol (SRP) to protect these passwords, which is designed to make it extremely difficult to extract the actual password.

This also means each password would have to be deciphered individually, he said.

"As a precaution, however, we recommend that players on North American servers change their password," he said.

In the coming days, he said players on North American servers will be prompted to change their secret questions and answers through an automated process.

Blizzard will also prompt mobile authenticator users to update their authenticator software.

"As a reminder, phishing emails will ask you for password or login information. Blizzard Entertainment emails will never ask for your password. We deeply regret the inconvenience to all of you and understand you may have questions," he said.

"We take the security of your personal information very seriously, and we are truly sorry that this has happened," he added. — TJD, GMA News


source: http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story...d-game-network

[siyado]

^not taking anything away from Flash, he is the greatest BW player ever, but Fantasy showed in their semifinals that even a god can bleed.

Their first 2 games showed how well Fantasy prepared for Flash.

Flash's style usually centers around a great macro game. He just out-mines you, creates an impregnable defense with tanks and turrets and steamrolls you in the end with a push or mass drop play.

How did Fantasy counter this? By exploiting two weaknesses.
1.) In opening up with an econ build (ex. his pet 14cc which he used in both of those games), Flash usually stretches himself thin defensively.
2.) Flash doesn't usually go for air superiority with his mech builds but relies on drops.

[spoiler start]Fantasy countered beautifully by going for air superiority with Wraiths. TvT usually devolve around stalemated tank siege lines and mass drop play. In game 1, Fantasy took the central position, allowing him to attack/harrass Flash's more numerous expos at the hinges. Then, his Wraiths denied Flash the ability to reinforce his bases with troops by shooting down. Flash tried to doom drop but it failed allowing Fantasy to destroy Flash's expos at will.

In the 2nd game, Fantasy exploited gaps in Flash's lines nicely with his signature Vulture harass. Again, he was able to take the central position and from there, neutralized Flash gradually. The 3rd game was an absolute blunder from Flash; he didn't build his Academy knowing that Wraiths were on the way.[spoiler end]

I think Fantasy deserved that finals slot. With his victory over Flash, he was 9-0, essentially undefeated in the tournament, going into the finals. He is a one-time OSL champion and 3-time runner up (now 4 with the loss to Janbi). If he won against Stork and Jaedong, he would have tied the likes of Nada and Flash with the most OSL wins ever and arguably challenge Flash for the title of best BW player ever. Lastly, he was out for revenge against the close loss to Jangbi in last year's finals.

Jangbi, otoh, is no spring chicken himself. This guy went from the lowest of lows (probably the worst slump in BW pro-gaming history) to the highest of highs (his miraculous Legends of the Fall OSL run last year was just pure epicness). He did take out Flash last year in the Ro8, beating Flash in the clincher in a sick maxed out slugfest. And who could forget his come-from-behind game 5 win against Fantasy? He almost never made it back to the finals if not for another miracle (actually two) against Zero.

Re: this year's finals. I agree that it wasn't as epic as last year. Janbi's 3 wins [spoiler start]came essentially from an unexpected carrier build, a proxy robo and a DT rush. Fantasy's lone victory came when Jangbi failed a DT rush, which was properly scouted and countered[spoiler end] But, unlike last year, I think Jangbi came in more prepared this time. Fantasy is usually known for his crazy builds during important matches, but Jangbi brought tricks of his own this time. I wouldn't necessarily call it cheese, like when Effort cheesed the hell out of Flash two years ago. But still, a fitting end to the Brood War era.

no doubt about fantasy's skill. he's probably the best bw player right now in terms of that. my thoughts were that fantasy's style is very methodical as opposed to spontaneous. he pretty much enters a match with specific plans in mind and executes them. if an opposing player thwarts his plans, he finds it hard to change gears and steer to another direction on the fly. i think this is why he lost to jangbi. jangbi busted out strategies and builds that he wasn't really prepared for and didn't see coming. flash's greatest asset on the other hand is his godly game sense, which would be the perfect antidote to a cunning player like jangbi.

[MEM2]

P1795! Just bought one! So excited!

[Revelations]

I'm playing HOTS now (hmm.. heart of the swarm has a hot abbreviation). natatawa ako sa character na Abathur. the guy looks like a fucking v@gina! complete with clitoris and pubic hair.

use your imagination na lang.

[balthier]

^ You got to admire the person who designed Abathur! Sana ginawa na rin nilang boses babae.
Good thing it was not the other organ.

[Revelations]

^ You got to admire the person who designed Abathur! Sana ginawa na rin nilang boses babae.
Good thing it was not the other organ.

actually...

this is the "other organ"