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    Why no "Driving Under the Influence (DUI)" Law in the Philippines ???

    Drunk drivers involved in Pasig car crash

    Two motorists allegedly driving under the influence of alcohol were involved in a vehicular crash before dawn Sunday in Pasig City, ABS-CBN News reported.

    The report said a Nissan Sentra sedan (UUN 407) and a Toyota Fortuner (ZCM 861) collided onto each other at around 2 a.m. The Fortuner was travelling along C. Raymundo Avenue when it crashed onto the Sentra that emerged from Mercedes Avenue toward C. Raymundo.

    The Fortuner's driver was identified as Alvie Magno. The Sentra's driver was unidentified as of this posting. No one was reported hurt but the vehicles were damaged. The impact sent the Fortuner tumbling over. Its windshield was shattered. The Sentra's bumper, meanwhile, was wrecked. An initial investigation report said both drivers might have been in a rush to go home.

    Magno and the other driver admitted that they came from parties and had alcoholic drinks.

    The two face charges of reckless imprudence resulting to property damage.

    The Metropolitan Manila and Development Authority, meanwhile, reminded motorists to proceed with caution when driving along intersections especially during the wee hours.

    The agency also advised motorists not to drink and drive.

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryID=64932

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    It's amazing that drivers in the Philippines can only get away with damage to property charges while driving drunk. Looks like drunk driving is okay as long as you don't hit anything or anybody. No blood, no charges.

    Anong mga klaseng batas ba ang sinusulat ng ating mga Senators and Congressman sa Pilipinas ???

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    Where is the money in that? Do you think lobbyist for the alcoholic drinks will let a DUI law get in the way of the profits for businesses like Tanduay and San Miguel? Besides, not all drunks and drinkers have cars and other vehicles to drive. Most are poor low income Pinoys who try to cope with living by drinking their problems away.
    It's always been - "you are on your own" rule in the Philippines. You get drunk and then you drive, you are on your own. Innocent bystander, watch out for yourself! People get killed everyday, intentionally. Even by their friends.

    As for drunk drivers, no insurance company will pay for theirr damages or theirr medical bills, anyway. That's enough punishment, much stronger punishment tha a six months to two years in jail and revocation of driving license. Besides if there is A DUI law, that will just be another clutter in the court system which is clogged enough and has nothing but corrupt judges anyway. DUI law will just be another source of "tong" income. So what will the DUI law be good for? None!

    And why would anyone still expect Senators and congressmen to put anything worthwhile into a law, when they are not worthwhile public officials, either. They got elected not because they have some political savvy and the desire to help the common people. Those days are gone. Maybe before the time of Marcos public, officials really serve as public servants, but that shipped had sailed long time ago. Now public officials just wanted to be as popular as movie actors and movie actors want to have the powers of politicians. The public? They get to have good entertainment and refreshments enedy election time. That's good enough for them! DUI law? Are you kidding?

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    The Philippines only has a law for reckless imprudence, which unfortunately requires that a homicide is committed first before it is applied.

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    Even if such a law is passed, the chances of it being implemented is nil. Just look at the cops. They got beer guts with the word FIRESTONE on the side, and some of them may even be related to JABBA THE HUTT. Heck, with that thought, a 12-year old with asthma could probably even beat these guys on a treadmill.

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    if we want to have that, the solons should start hearing out the sentiments and voices of their constituents so that they would know what the people need, what laws do the people wnat to be passed and why it should be passed... the DUI law mentioned here is good though.. however, initiative to look on small matters such as that are missing in our Congressmen and Senators...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wang Bu View Post
    It's amazing that drivers in the Philippines can only get away with damage to property charges while driving drunk. Looks like drunk driving is okay as long as you don't hit anything or anybody. No blood, no charges.

    Anong mga klaseng batas ba ang sinusulat ng ating mga Senators and Congressman sa Pilipinas ???
    para saan pa yang DUI na yan?? ano kelangan i checkpoint lahat ng drivers kada kanto kung nakainom sila o hindi?

    sa UAE nga me DUI law na pero marami pa ring nag dri-drive ng nakainom.Nalalaman na lang na nakainom yung driver kapag may aksidente o traffic violation na ginawa. Me mga driver din naman kasing nakainom pero responsible driver pa ren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wang Bu View Post
    It's amazing that drivers in the Philippines can only get away with damage to property charges while driving drunk. Looks like drunk driving is okay as long as you don't hit anything or anybody. No blood, no charges.

    Anong mga klaseng batas ba ang sinusulat ng ating mga Senators and Congressman sa Pilipinas ???
    oh you're talking about senate here?? they're busy doing their endless investigations. and before we know it, they already took the place of NBI.

    kidding aside, just like the other poster mentioned, where's the money in it? for these people, a certain case is "of public interest" if they could squeeze out millions out of it. marami pa ngang panukala na dapat nasasabatasna ngayun, yung mas importante, but these bills best rest over the shelves. mas masarap daw gawing law ang bill kapag may lumot na.

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    The driver admitted to have had some alcohol, but was not tested for alcohol, so no charges of drunk driving. If you were tested, yes you can be charged of drunk driving not DUI. DUI in USA is broader than just having alcohol in your system, this include illigal drugs comsumption such as marijuana or cocaine. Over-the-counter or prescription drugs that significantly impair a driver's ability to operate a vehicle can also lead to a conclusion that a person was "driving under the influence.

  11. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by parvus1202 View Post
    The driver admitted to have had some alcohol, but was not tested for alcohol, so no charges of drunk driving.
    The answer to that is because we do not have any reference limit like blood alcohol level which will constitute as drunk driving in the Philippines. So even if you found alcohol in his blood, how much alcohol does the law says in order to conclude that a person is drunk? It doesn't say.

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    Drunk driving in the Philippines is not a national law but city ordinances. each have it's own law on how many lavels or % of alcohol. In Makati it is .13% blood alcohol level to be considered unfit to drive with a fine of P2,500 or imprisonment or both. Some cities are banning drivers for a certain period time or imprisonment. Senator Villar already proposes bill against drunk drivers, but has not ratified yet.

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    ^ That's good then if Villar has a bill filed already. Too bad it's not a surprise that such a bill is not a priority in Congress.

    And that's the problem with ordinances, especially in Metro Manila. Every city has their own ordinances that will apply to you eventhough you are just passing by. And ignorance of an ordinance is not an excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parvus1202 View Post
    Drunk driving in the Philippines is not a national law but city ordinances. each have it's own law on how many lavels or % of alcohol. In Makati it is .13% blood alcohol level to be considered unfit to drive with a fine of P2,500 or imprisonment or both. Some cities are banning drivers for a certain period time or imprisonment. Senator Villar already proposes bill against drunk drivers, but has not ratified yet.
    How many cities have facilities and personnel to test blood alcohol level? How many incidence of accidents due to drunk driving are there per night (or per day). If the incidences are too low, like once or twice a week, costwose it is not prudent to maintain a blood testing staff that will be idle most of the time.

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    ^ Lalo na sa Pilipinas. Ang mentality ng mga pulis eh "iwas hassle". Isipin mo, sa blood test ang dami mo pang paperwork na gagawin, ipa-follow-up mo pa yung resulta, kakasuhan mo pa kung sakali, .... daming hassle. Kaya karamihan sa pulis tumatanggap na lang ng lagay para batsi na. Maliban na lang kung nakasagasa ka talaga ng tao.

    Ang driving rule sa Pilipinas - no blood, no offense nga. Pero kung tag-gutom ang mga pulis, huli ka kagad for illegal swerving. Langyang mga pulis yan. Puro delihensya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_BuGs View Post
    para saan pa yang DUI na yan?? ano kelangan i checkpoint lahat ng drivers kada kanto kung nakainom sila o hindi?

    sa UAE nga me DUI law na pero marami pa ring nag dri-drive ng nakainom.Nalalaman na lang na nakainom yung driver kapag may aksidente o traffic violation na ginawa. Me mga driver din naman kasing nakainom pero responsible driver pa ren.
    Pag ang driver ay makainom, hindi na sya responsible. Makainom sya, eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWookie View Post
    Ang driving rule sa Pilipinas - no blood, no offense nga. Pero kung tag-gutom ang mga pulis, huli ka kagad for illegal swerving. Langyang mga pulis yan. Puro delihensya.
    hindi lang pulis pati brown boys, blue boys at yellow boys, grabe talaga kung manghuli pag ginutom at gustong mag meryenda. kahit anong butas hahanapan ka. pag nakita mo na yung kamay nila na pumapara, halika dito.... patay! huli!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kopinux View Post
    hindi lang pulis pati brown boys, blue boys at yellow boys, grabe talaga kung manghuli pag ginutom at gustong mag meryenda. kahit anong butas hahanapan ka. pag nakita mo na yung kamay nila na pumapara, halika dito.... patay! huli!.
    Puro mga eng-eng naman kasi talaga ang mga pulis dito. Ang dapat hulihin hindi hinuhuli, ang hindi dapat hulihin hinuhuli.

    Just the other way I made a right turn into Shaw coming from that road near Kalentong... the cars on the perpendicular road were go for turning left into the road I was on so I was free to make a right without blocking any cars.

    Some goon cop standing beside his motorcyle tried to flag me down, naturally I ignored him. Of course I was counting on the p_rick being too lazy to go after me seeing as he did not even have a good reason to ask me to stop. I should have stopped and dressed him down and see where that took us.

    How can these pigs not be ashamed of wearingi their uniform? I think it was a yellow/black boy.

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    Here in the Philippines, there are also drunk-driving ordinances in most cities, with penalties that include fines, suspension of one’s driving license and jail terms. But, as we all know, enforcement is not as strict as it is in the US.

    To begin with, how do law enforcers determine if drivers are driving over the legal limit here? How many cities and municipalities equip their traffic enforcers with breathalyzers, for instance? Are they capable of conducting blood tests to determine if the driver is over the statutory amount? Or do they just rely on smelling drivers, judging their conduct, language (slurred speech, e.g.) and motor movements to determine if they are indeed drunk?

    Foreigners I have talked to often make comments that drunk-driving laws here are a joke. It's also a culture thing, they say. Filipinos take pride in being able to hold their liquor. They say it seems to be a macho thing for most Filipino males to be able to drink and drive, mocking the popular admonition, "Don't drink and drive."

    Technically, there is not even a national law against drunk driving. If I recall correctly, Senate President Manny Villar introduced a bill for the purpose when he was still chairman of the Senate finance committee. Under his bill, Villar proposed that persons found guilty for the first time of drunk driving must face a suspension of their driver's license for one year and be made to pay a fine of P1,000. On the second offense, a fine of P5,000 and a five-year suspension of the driver's license will be imposed. I don't recall the bill having gone past the committee level though.

    In Makati, Jejomar Binay wants to be stricter not only against drunk driving but also "drugged driving." Last year the Makati City Council passed an ordinance imposing a fine of P2,500 or imprisonment—or both—on persons who drive their vehicles while under the influence of drugs or liquor.

    The city government acquired testing kits to be used in checking the blood-alcohol level of intoxicated or drugged drivers. Suspected drivers can also be taken to the Ospital ng Makati, which now conducts testing on a 24-hour basis. So Makati traffic officers don't need to rely only on physical manifestations of being intoxicated or drugged, which might not be able to hold up in court when cases are filed against those caught red-handed. Just like in the US, the testing is mandatory if you are caught violating traffic or driving errantly.

    In Makati, drivers who register a .13-percent blood alcohol level are considered unfit to drive and will be charged according to the drunk-driving ordinance. Interestingly, Gibson would not have been legally drunk in Makati. (Maybe, Filipinos really have a high tolerance for alcohol, otherwise how do you explain the more lenient standards for blood alcohol tests?)

    Has the city ordinance encouraged more people in Makati to drink moderately and more responsibly? Obviously, it hasn't put a stop to drunk driving altogether. That might be an impossible task. But even making a dent on the drunk-driving culture would take time, relentless enforcement coupled with a serious information drive.

    Binay directed the Makati Police Department, the city's Department of Public Safety and the barangays to strictly enforce the ordinance, particularly in the vicinity of Makati's bars and entertainment establishments. Bar owners were asked to inform their clients about the ordinance against drunk driving, and its corresponding penalties.

    # Like most countries, Japan sets limits on how much a person can drink before they are considered legally intoxicated. These laws apply to anyone within the borders of Japan regardless of nationality or immigration status. They are generally considered criminal laws and are punishable by fines and incarceration. Japan is often regarded as having some of the strictest DUI laws in the world.
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    # The legal limit for driving under the influence of alcohol in Japan is having a .03 blood-alcohol level. Driving with higher blood-alcohol levels can lead to more serious fines and punishments. Japanese law also provides that those who served a drunk driver his drinks, those who loaned him a car to drive, and even those who rode along with him can be subject to fines or incarceration.
    Penalties
    # Being convicted of driving under the influence brings with it the possibility of both stiff fines and prison time. For blood-alcohol levels between .03 and.07999, the maximum prison sentence is three years, and the maximum fine is about $4,000. Those with blood-alcohol levels over .08 can be sentenced to up to five years incarceration and as much as about $8,800 in fines. However, drivers can be sentenced to the maximum fine if it can be shown their impairment was significant. Incarceration pursuant to any alcohol-related crime results in a prison sentence, not a local jail sentence. Japanese prisons typically require inmates to perform forced labor.
    Breath Tests
    # Japanese police typically use a blood alcohol wand to measure a driver's alcohol levels. Refusal to take the test can itself result in a confinement of up to three years and a fine up to about $4,400.

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