10 Dirtiest PBA Player of All Time....

[bchoter]

^ KWK, baka multuhin ako ng mga madre nung grade school ako... wahahaha... actually baka multuhin na nila ako sa aking current state of mind

Happy New Year pre

[jescythe]

^pasok ba yung mga to sa mga 'dirtiest' PBA Players?

[KobeWanKenobi]

Bchoter

Happy new year din.

Btw, eto link ng MyPBA topic that started interesting but became even more so courtesy of JPM, Ch2 and others. Heheheh

http://mypba.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7749&st=0

Enjoy.

[arsonist]

sonny jaworski
rudy distrito
mick pennisi
victor rambo sanchez
ricky relosa

jimwell tora tora torion
johnny revilla
tembong melencio
topex robinson
santiago cabatu

[ch2sagana]

Pareng Arsonist,
Gurang, gasgas at bugbog na ang tumbong ni Tembong nung magsimula ang PBA nung 1975 kaya di na siya naka-abot sa pro-league.

[ardel32]

MICK PENNISI - nanakit nalang

[Jay P. Mercado]

Sayang si Tembong (may he rest in peace), he was one of the primary MICAA players prior to the advent of the PBA. I really have no recollection why he didn't make it to the PBA - his last team was with the Opel/Yutivo team in the MICAA where he even led the team in scoring. Note that Melencio historically has always been known as a defensive player - he was the one tasked upon by Coach Valentin "Tito" Eduque to guard South Korean superstar hotshot Shin Dong Pa in the 1973 ABC. I reckon the best defender ever to guard Shin would be the late Ed Ocampo but Tembong more than held his own against the Korean.

His last glory to fame was coaching the not-so-star studded 1993 National Team in the SEA Games. Of course, the SEA Games isn't much of a benchmark for we are the perennial favorites here. But Melencio had to work on a team that was devoid of good players - if I remember it right, his starting point guard then was Bethune "Siot" Tanquingcen of UST. I'm not sure about the composition of that team so that should give us an idea that this wasn't really loaded with "named" players. Melencio made men out of our boys, instructing them not to back down at any given moment and to fight hard for our country.

One of the best players never to play in the PBA - Rogelio "Tembong" Melencio deserves all the accolades normally bestowed upon his colleagues who were able to play in the league.

[ron jacobs]

Sorry guys, I resurrected this thread, very interesting kase yung mga contributions. I won't name my top ten most dirty players at the moment but rather I would just want first to share this trivia if you know...many people would blame an injury of a player to Jaworski even without seeing the actual action or did not hear it from credible source. One most popular accusation to Jawo that he really did not do was that Jawo was tagged as the man behind the career-threatening injury of Bogs Adornado. As we all know after Bogs bagged the MVP crown twice in a row (1975 and 76), he only came back to the PBA in the 80's (not sure of the exact year..maybe KBk and JPM knows the year) But then going back, let me ask you who was really the player responsible for Bogs sudden disappearance in the PBA due to a knee injury? I know the answer but let me hear you first..thanks

[Big Ticket]

His last glory to fame was coaching the not-so-star studded 1993 National Team in the SEA Games. Of course, the SEA Games isn't much of a benchmark for we are the perennial favorites here. But Melencio had to work on a team that was devoid of good players - if I remember it right, his starting point guard then was Bethune "Siot" Tanquingcen of UST. I'm not sure about the composition of that team so that should give us an idea that this wasn't really loaded with "named" players. Melencio made men out of our boys, instructing them not to back down at any given moment and to fight hard for our country.

the players i remember who played for tembong were siot, poch juinio, cris bade, rodney santos, mike orquillas

[maxelyjr]

2 lang ang pwedeng bigyan ng title na to sa pba.

sina jawo at distrito

[Jay P. Mercado]

RJ,

I actually already posted the name of the player responsible for Adornado's busted knee. I think it's in the first or second page of this thread...And like I kept on mentioning, there has never been a player that I recall in the 23 seasons that the Big J played did he ever cause any player's injury. Not one. Sure, there was a trip here, an elbow there, a nudge once or twice but bottomline, he did these moves as part of the game, not to hurt a player. I'd like to think I have a very good eye on players whose only intent is to hurt his colleagues - people like Rudy Distrito, Onchie DL Cruz, Victor Sanchez, Oscar Rocha - these guys would be on top of the list. I never saw that in the Big J and I won't classify him to be a dirty player. Rough yes. Physical yes. Dirty? No...

Adornado busted his knee in the 2nd conference of the 1976 season. He became MVP that year since the MVP selection back then was only done after the 1st Conference - or the All Filipino. The rules only changed after 1979 in that controversy-ridden selection of Atoy Co against Ramon Fernandez. Starting 1980, the MVP was determined on how the player performed the entire season - and Phillip Cezar was the odds-on choice.

Thanks BT for supplying the other names as well. Question, was Tembong Melencio's son, Richie part of that team? Also, was Henry Ong of UST also part of that national lineup?

[ron jacobs]

Jay P. Mercado

I actually already posted the name of the player responsible for Adornado's busted knee. I think it's in the first or second page of this thread...And like I kept on mentioning, there has never been a player that I recall in the 23 seasons that the Big J played did he ever cause any player's injury. Not one. Sure, there was a trip here, an elbow there, a nudge once or twice but bottomline, he did these moves as part of the game, not to hurt a player. I'd like to think I have a very good eye on players whose only intent is to hurt his colleagues - people like Rudy Distrito, Onchie DL Cruz, Victor Sanchez, Oscar Rocha - these guys would be on top of the list. I never saw that in the Big J and I won't classify him to be a dirty player. Rough yes. Physical yes. Dirty? No...

You know pareng JPM, I have thrown that same question so many times in different sites and no one could give me that right answer, worse they where too courageous to point it to Jawo. I am sorry I did not see the first page of this thread but I checked it already...you really know your basketball bro, you are the only person that share my knowledge about it.....Romeo Frank, that mestizo guy from U/tex was the guy indeed, he bumped Adornado really hard that caused the injury. I was only 8 yrs.old then(1976), but I could still remember that newspaper report about the incident, plus the very deep sports analyst Zal Marte in the program Sporting World over channel 4 hosted by Ronnie Nathanielsz during the 80's confirmed my memory that it was indeed Romeo Frank...

As for the real dirty ones, i will reserve for a while my comment about Jawo being a dirty player or not coz it is like a complicated matter to discuss.

Anyway, Onchie dela Cruz, Distrito, Rocha, Vic Sanchez, Torion should top my list.

[Jay P. Mercado]

RJ,

Excellent point. It was convenient to point the accusing finger at Jaworski regarding Adornado's injury simply because the Big J was Adornado's chief defender back in the 70's and that Crispa and Toyota engaged in several wars back then. To my recollection, they played around 40-45 games in 1975 and 1976 so it was easy to point to Jaworski as responsible owing to the frequency of their matchups.

Another person frequently mistaken to have been responsible for Adornado's injury was Frank's U/Tex's teammate Jimmy Noblezada. Because Noblezada was muscular and played physical, people thought that Adornado's injury that happened against U/Tex was brought about by the PBA's original Iron Man. Instead, everyone forget jersey #15 Romeo Frank, lanky at 6'2 with long limbs and an offensive player's nightmare, actually was the culprit here. I wouldn't surmise if the bump was deliberate or merely incidental - but I actually saw that game on television - and it cast a gloomy shadow in my midst seeing Crispa's best player going down with an injury.

He eventually returned to the Crispa lineup in 1979 but was a shadow of his old self. Similarly, Dalupan wasn't too keen on re-inserting Adornado in the rotation as they were already loaded with superstars. Eventually, Danny Floro gave Adornado away to the Wranglers and that's where he put on a show again, regaining his old form enroute to another MVP performance in 1981.

[KobeWanKenobi]

One question Jay. Did Bogs and Frank ever meet in U/Tex? If they did, ever have an idea on what they did once they met?

[Jay P. Mercado]

KWK,

No, they did not. Frank was released by the Wranglers sometime in 1978 or 1979 at the latest. When Adornado came in, Tommy Manotoc already reorganized his lineup by putting in his more preferred players. Names like Ricky Pineda (one of the few U/Tex origs retained by Manotoc), Noblezada, Fritz Gaston (plucked from Ateneo), Lim Eng Beng (a Manotoc favorite), Jerry Samlani (plucked from APCOR in 1981), Etok Lobo (personally recruited by Manotoc in 1977 from sister team Solid Mills), Tony Dasalla (another personal recruit of Manotoc from the same Solid Mills team back in 1977) among others were Adornado's teammates when he joined them in 1980.

[KobeWanKenobi]

That Wranglers team wouldn't have any problems scoring with Bogs Adornado and Lim Eng Beng.

[ron jacobs]

Thanks JPM...

U/text together with Tanduay were always at that coat tails of Toyota and Crispa during the early PBA days that these two teams were regarded as next best teams after the two rivals. U/Tex became stronger in the 80's I believe primarily because of Tommy Manotoc, whom I regard as the first ever scientific and defense-conscious coach in the history of the PBA. U/tex' one-two punch then was Rudolph Kutch and Lim Eng Beng. But to the dismay of the U/Tex fans, Kutch was injury prone and I guess he never played in U/Tex' upset of Toyota in the 1980 third conference finals. Lim Eng Beng I believe is one of the best guard in the PBA, he is very wily. There were times that he would be able to outsmart Jawo.

During that historic U/Tex-Toyota championship game where Toyota blew a 4-point margin with only 16 ticks left in reulation, Beng a master of foul-bating was able to drew the 6th foul of Jawo that probably left Toyota without a leader especially in that OT that led to the first ever trophy for the Walter Euyang franchise since 1975.

[de_veelish]

wala na sigurong tatalo pa kay JAWO

[MrKordi]

jaworski, relosa, distrito . marumi talaga maglaro. abarrientos and magsanoc eh halos nabugbog kay distirito and yet walang nagawa ang pba.

but my older friends and even my dad confirmed that di uubra ang mga ito kay johnny revilla, ehehheh

[MrKordi]

jaworski, relosa, distrito . marumi talaga maglaro. abarrientos and magsanoc eh halos nabugbog kay distirito and yet walang nagawa ang pba.

but my older friends and even my dad confirmed that di uubra ang mga ito kay johnny revilla, ehehheh