What are the top medical schools in the philippines?

heart4us · Oct 15, 2006, 05:33 PM

What are the top medical schools in the philippines?
how is the admission?
also...what are their tuition fees?
how does the education here compete with the medical programs of other countries such as those in Asia(China, Japan, Korea) or those of the US?

-=+cZaRiNa+=- · Oct 15, 2006, 09:10 PM

University of the Philippines - Manila
University of Santo Tomas
Cebu Doctors' University - the first medical university in the Philippines

GR8_GUY · Oct 16, 2006, 10:24 AM

There is no good reliable rankings of "best schools" in the Philippines, let alone the best medical schools. Unofficial ranking of medical schools in the Philippines is based on school's passing percentage in board examinations, a flawed criterion not used in the USA and many countries in the West. In the USA for example, results of the USMLE Steps 1, 2, and 3 that tests encompassing knowledge in basic and clinical sciences, clinical competence and actual patient care is not included in the ranking criteria. U.S. students, counselors and parents have always looked at the U.S. News and World Report Magazine's rankings of medical schools with skepticism despite using a wider criteria including: l) peer assessment, 2) assesment scores by residency directors, 3) selectivity rank, 4) undergraduate GPA, 5) average MCAT score, 6) acceptance rate, 7) NIH research grant, 8) NIH grants per faculty member, 9) faculty student ratio and 10) graduates entering primary care. If you use the flawed passing percentage in the Philippine Medical Licensure Exam this year as the lone basis for the rankings then you have:

1. University of the Philippines 97%
2. Cebu Institute of Medicine 88%,
3. Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Maynila 86%
4. University of Santo Tomas 84%.

d00mednow · Oct 16, 2006, 12:35 PM

^^ What should be the criteria then?

The board exam can give you a picture of which schools perform relatively better than the rest. I agree though that it should be not the lone basis.

Nerdee · Oct 16, 2006, 04:24 PM

UP and Upang. nothing follows.

hpmd · Oct 16, 2006, 06:22 PM

^ aight!
UP College of Medicine

GR8_GUY · Oct 16, 2006, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d00mednow

^^ What should be the criteria then?

The board exam can give you a picture of which schools perform relatively better than the rest. I agree though that it should be not the lone basis.

If somebody could come up with statistical data using modified criteria of the US News & World Report ranking that would be much better than using the licensing exam passing percentage alone. Adding one criterion makes it a tad better and right off the bat I can give you the the minimum MCAT score requirement for some schools (4 years back)--- UP 90th percentile, UST 65th percentile, UERM 55th percentile.

kingarcher25 · Oct 17, 2006, 01:30 AM

GR8_GUY is right. The board exams is a flawed criterion. The board exams just measures how much a med student knows and not how good they are. Maraming matalino na naaalala nila yung nababasa nila pero pag nagpractice na hindi na makasabay. Madaming ganyang doctors. Mga book/theory doctors. They can tell what's wrong with you but they can't cure you.

Going into a good school is important pero what makes a good doctor e yung madaming experience sa toxic cases. Yung tipong 1 gun shot wound e hindi pa toxic kasi meron kang kasabay na 5 gun shot wounds. UP definitely has this kind of exposure kasi naka tie-up sila sa PGH. DLSU-HSC in dasma also has this kind of exposures kasi sila lang yung hospital na matino for a long stretch. Other school din na malapit sa mga magugulong area e may ganitong exposures din. Pagod sila pero punong-puno sila ng experience and yun ang dahilan kung bakit magaling sila.

SUX2BÜ · Oct 17, 2006, 03:42 AM

If you want to become a doctor with heart, go to UST. A 90 MCAT score won't assure you of becoming one very compassionate doctor.

Patch Adams is right.

mac_bolan00 · Oct 17, 2006, 07:54 AM

but it might get you admitted to UP-PGH.

we have too many compassionate doctors who stand by and watch their patients die.

d00mednow · Oct 17, 2006, 09:02 AM

^^ Maybe the compassionate doctors can only do so much with limited resources in public hospitals.

SUX2BÜ · Oct 17, 2006, 09:35 AM

Just imagine a patient having a tantrum and is suddenly pelted with eggs.

prince nico · Oct 17, 2006, 10:00 AM

If you go for board exam results as a criterion, a single board exam result last year is not a good measure. Go for the historical data (maybe a 10-year period) of each school to guide you if you have plans to take up a medical course.

d00mednow · Oct 17, 2006, 10:31 AM

Actually, you can tell the difference of the "culture" among doctors from PGH, Jose Reyes Memorial, UST and UERM. The doctors from the public hospitals are "good" but "snobbish", while the UST and UERM doctors are also "good" but compassionate. My friend told me that it could be the PR factor from private hospital doctors working there... they need to be nice. However, you can tell that they are sincere.

I must stress that I don't generalize doctors from PGH and JRMMC as snobbish... only a good number of them.

mac_bolan00 · Oct 17, 2006, 01:08 PM

well a lot of UP-diliman premeds who don't make it to PGH go to UERM. i guess compassion is second choice.

Nerdee · Oct 17, 2006, 03:37 PM

Here's the ranking of the top medical schools in the phil.:

1. University of the Philippines
2. University of Pangasinan
3. University of the East
4. De la salle - dasma
...
...
...
80. UST
81. STI

d00mednow · Oct 17, 2006, 03:39 PM

^^ di naman masyadong halata na malaki ang galit mo sa UST..

Nerdee · Oct 17, 2006, 03:57 PM

UST is quite lucky since they're CURRENTLY ahead of STI. Oh I forgot, PLM is at fifth.

stephen_yp · Oct 17, 2006, 04:04 PM

my Top 3 medical schools:

1. UP
2. Cebu Institute of Medicine
3. UST

justin06 · Oct 17, 2006, 04:16 PM

UST and UP

why not try to visit international forums for doctors. hindi lang puro pex.


Oct 15, 2006, 05:33 PM	#1
heart4us Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cebu City	What are the top medical schools in the philippines? What are the top medical schools in the philippines? how is the admission? also...what are their tuition fees? how does the education here compete with the medical programs of other countries such as those in Asia(China, Japan, Korea) or those of the US?


Oct 17, 2006, 04:04 PM	#19
stephen_yp Member Join Date: Apr 2006	my Top 3 medical schools: 1. UP 2. Cebu Institute of Medicine 3. UST Last edited by stephen_yp : Oct 17, 2006 at 07:42 PM.


Oct 15, 2006, 09:10 PM	#2
-=+cZaRiNa+=- Member Join Date: Jan 2006	University of the Philippines - Manila University of Santo Tomas Cebu Doctors' University - the first medical university in the Philippines


Oct 16, 2006, 10:24 AM	#3
GR8_GUY Member Join Date: Apr 2005	There is no good reliable rankings of "best schools" in the Philippines, let alone the best medical schools. Unofficial ranking of medical schools in the Philippines is based on school's passing percentage in board examinations, a flawed criterion not used in the USA and many countries in the West. In the USA for example, results of the USMLE Steps 1, 2, and 3 that tests encompassing knowledge in basic and clinical sciences, clinical competence and actual patient care is not included in the ranking criteria. U.S. students, counselors and parents have always looked at the U.S. News and World Report Magazine's rankings of medical schools with skepticism despite using a wider criteria including: l) peer assessment, 2) assesment scores by residency directors, 3) selectivity rank, 4) undergraduate GPA, 5) average MCAT score, 6) acceptance rate, 7) NIH research grant, 8) NIH grants per faculty member, 9) faculty student ratio and 10) graduates entering primary care. If you use the flawed passing percentage in the Philippine Medical Licensure Exam this year as the lone basis for the rankings then you have: 1. University of the Philippines 97% 2. Cebu Institute of Medicine 88%, 3. Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Maynila 86% 4. University of Santo Tomas 84%.


Oct 16, 2006, 12:35 PM	#4
d00mednow MakaDiyos-Amen Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hokage's Villa	^^ What should be the criteria then? The board exam can give you a picture of which schools perform relatively better than the rest. I agree though that it should be not the lone basis.


Oct 16, 2006, 04:24 PM	#5
Nerdee Banned by Admin Join Date: Oct 2006	UP and Upang. nothing follows.


Oct 16, 2006, 06:22 PM	#6
hpmd wizard Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: disapparating	^ aight! UP College of Medicine


Oct 17, 2006, 01:30 AM	#8
kingarcher25 Member Join Date: Aug 2003	GR8_GUY is right. The board exams is a flawed criterion. The board exams just measures how much a med student knows and not how good they are. Maraming matalino na naaalala nila yung nababasa nila pero pag nagpractice na hindi na makasabay. Madaming ganyang doctors. Mga book/theory doctors. They can tell what's wrong with you but they can't cure you. Going into a good school is important pero what makes a good doctor e yung madaming experience sa toxic cases. Yung tipong 1 gun shot wound e hindi pa toxic kasi meron kang kasabay na 5 gun shot wounds. UP definitely has this kind of exposure kasi naka tie-up sila sa PGH. DLSU-HSC in dasma also has this kind of exposures kasi sila lang yung hospital na matino for a long stretch. Other school din na malapit sa mga magugulong area e may ganitong exposures din. Pagod sila pero punong-puno sila ng experience and yun ang dahilan kung bakit magaling sila.


Oct 17, 2006, 03:42 AM	#9
SUX2BÜ Banned by Admin Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Everybody's Mind	If you want to become a doctor with heart, go to UST. A 90 MCAT score won't assure you of becoming one very compassionate doctor. Patch Adams is right.


Oct 17, 2006, 07:54 AM	#10
mac_bolan00 Banned by Admin Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Quezon	but it might get you admitted to UP-PGH. we have too many compassionate doctors who stand by and watch their patients die.


Oct 17, 2006, 09:02 AM	#11
d00mednow MakaDiyos-Amen Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hokage's Villa	^^ Maybe the compassionate doctors can only do so much with limited resources in public hospitals.


Oct 17, 2006, 09:35 AM	#12
SUX2BÜ Banned by Admin Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Everybody's Mind	Just imagine a patient having a tantrum and is suddenly pelted with eggs.


Oct 17, 2006, 10:00 AM	#13
prince nico Member Join Date: Jan 2006	If you go for board exam results as a criterion, a single board exam result last year is not a good measure. Go for the historical data (maybe a 10-year period) of each school to guide you if you have plans to take up a medical course.


Oct 17, 2006, 10:31 AM	#14
d00mednow MakaDiyos-Amen Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hokage's Villa	Actually, you can tell the difference of the "culture" among doctors from PGH, Jose Reyes Memorial, UST and UERM. The doctors from the public hospitals are "good" but "snobbish", while the UST and UERM doctors are also "good" but compassionate. My friend told me that it could be the PR factor from private hospital doctors working there... they need to be nice. However, you can tell that they are sincere. I must stress that I don't generalize doctors from PGH and JRMMC as snobbish... only a good number of them.


Oct 17, 2006, 01:08 PM	#15
mac_bolan00 Banned by Admin Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Quezon	well a lot of UP-diliman premeds who don't make it to PGH go to UERM. i guess compassion is second choice.


Oct 17, 2006, 03:37 PM	#16
Nerdee Banned by Admin Join Date: Oct 2006	Here's the ranking of the top medical schools in the phil.: 1. University of the Philippines 2. University of Pangasinan 3. University of the East 4. De la salle - dasma ... ... ... 80. UST 81. STI


Oct 17, 2006, 03:39 PM	#17
d00mednow MakaDiyos-Amen Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hokage's Villa	^^ di naman masyadong halata na malaki ang galit mo sa UST..


Oct 17, 2006, 03:57 PM	#18
Nerdee Banned by Admin Join Date: Oct 2006	UST is quite lucky since they're CURRENTLY ahead of STI. Oh I forgot, PLM is at fifth.


Oct 17, 2006, 04:16 PM	#20
justin06 Member Join Date: Sep 2006	UST and UP why not try to visit international forums for doctors. hindi lang puro pex.