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Old Oct 2, 2006, 02:17 PM   #1
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remove and ban all billboards

Solon seeks permanent ban on giant billboards

this should have been done a long time ago! remove and ban all billboards from all the streets. they are nothing but eyesores and of late, killer billboards. the ad industry has been very irresponsible in putting these billboards everywhere and anywhere with disregard to what it does to the city, not to mention not enough safeguards.

give it to the MMDA/bayani to remove all of them, soon!
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 02:28 PM   #2
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Imelda Marcos was right about this, more than 30 years ago.
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 02:34 PM   #3
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not total ban, I guess. just regulate and strict observance of building and structural codes.
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 02:47 PM   #4
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And perhaps boycott irresponsible outdoor advertisement. ( billboard )

Kung bababa ang sales ng produkto at co. then they will get the message.

Kung kumikitil ng buhay, nagbabadya ng panganib at nagiging abala sa mga motorista at mamayan ay dapat iboykot ang mga produktong patuloy na yayakap sa ganitong paraan ng pag popromote ng kanilang produkto.

Press, Media, based advertisement may find other means and ways in encouraging clients.

Charitable ways of advertising should gain appreciatiation from the consumers. On the other side... press and media may highlight meaningful and purpose driven advertisement.

Ad + outreach programs = meaningful, helpful, socially concerned advertisement.
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 02:57 PM   #5
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not total ban, I guess. just regulate and strict observance of building and structural codes.
Total ban, no ban, it's the same. The people who own the land are happy with the rental money. They'll take the money anytime from the billboard owner, who in turn takes the money from the advertisers. MMDA has a limited enforcement ability, but the billboard owners have a stronger case in the courts. But who's going to stand in the way of progress? Cities like Paris, London and New York have more garish (and lighted) billboards.
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 03:17 PM   #6
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And perhaps boycott irresponsible outdoor advertisement. ( billboard )

Kung bababa ang sales ng produkto at co. then they will get the message.

Kung kumikitil ng buhay, nagbabadya ng panganib at nagiging abala sa mga motorista at mamayan ay dapat iboykot ang mga produktong patuloy na yayakap sa ganitong paraan ng pag popromote ng kanilang produkto.

Press, Media, based advertisement may find other means and ways in encouraging clients.

Charitable ways of advertising should gain appreciatiation from the consumers. On the other side... press and media may highlight meaningful and purpose driven advertisement.

Ad + outreach programs = meaningful, helpful, socially concerned advertisement.
Easier said than done. You can give excellence awards in billboard design and placement, but if it does not translate directly into added sales, they're useless. But will you get the support of the consumers in your banning your so-called irresponsible advertising? I think the answer is no. Consumers will always be guided by their own needs and the billboards help channel them into the advertised products. After all, your brain needs 5 seconds to process the billboard message into remembering and if the billboard does that, it has done its job. Better than what the press and media advertising, which usually requires buying a publication, and billboard advertising does not do.
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 03:38 PM   #7
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Yes, i understand...lots of money are flowing thru this kind of advertising.
But life is more precious..

The focus of advertisement are Consumers. Consumers can influence... if they want to...

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Old Oct 2, 2006, 04:04 PM   #8
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Total ban, no ban, it's the same. The people who own the land are happy with the rental money. They'll take the money anytime from the billboard owner, who in turn takes the money from the advertisers. MMDA has a limited enforcement ability, but the billboard owners have a stronger case in the courts. But who's going to stand in the way of progress? Cities like Paris, London and New York have more garish (and lighted) billboards.
thats why a law is needed to be passed in congress. with the law, MMDA can enforce it and with their track record, will probably enforce it with gusto and ahead of schedule.

but the ad industry (ad agency association and client association) will probably be more pro-active here. they will probably propose self-regulation with strict guidelines.

if this happens, a law is still needed to supplement self-regulation to include stiff fines and jail term if someone is killed by falling billboards.
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 04:28 PM   #9
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I think that I shall never see
A billboard as lovely as a tree.

Perhaps unless all the billboards fall,
I won't see a tree at all.

(by O. Nash)
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 04:30 PM   #10
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Kailangan pa ba ng law? Kasi alam ko kumukuha sila ng permit to erect steel structures, no permit, no structures. Payment permits generate funds for the local governments. Hindi siguro alam ng taga munisipyo na low class structures mga ito. Tapos kapag nalagyan pa ng boards sasagap pa ng malakas na hangin na parang sail, kaya bagsakan na. Sa kahabaan ng EDSA wala na kong makitang building puro billboards na, pati ilalim ng tulay. Dapat ang maging law ang lahat ng billboards ay sa gilid na lang ng mga buildings, o kaya painted na sa mga walls. Wala ng structures.
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 04:50 PM   #11
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I've always been against these GIANT BILLBOARDS that litter all over edsa.

THere is a REASON why we have the 'world's biggest billboard'. It's because elsewhere, they're not allowed to make that kind of structure.

anyway.. as i have said, i don't mind billboards. but keep them 'small.'

perfect size, imo is yung sa Highways sa China.
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 06:06 PM   #12
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Maybe all tall buildings should've been banned in earthquake-prone areas..hold on..I think they improved the designs of the structures.

Billboards help alleviate the boredom during rush hour.
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 06:21 PM   #13
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^... so... you fap on those half nekkid models on those billboards?

btw, those can be made better- by making them SMALLER
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 06:46 PM   #14
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not while driving
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 07:20 PM   #15
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Imelda Marcos was right about this, more than 30 years ago.
any idiot could be right about this. imelda was on a beautification drive; a saner politician would call for the same thing on a safety platform, and he (or she) would be less of an idiot.

i say don't eliminate billboards completely, but grant limited billboard space. get only the highest bidders, don't accept billboards above a certain size, implement stricter safety measures, and employ the assistance of private authorities in keeping a low volume of billboards along the freeway.

it just so happens that manila was at the center of the storm. that's why people are taking notice. but such safety measures should be imposed nationwide, should have been imposed long ago.
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 07:22 PM   #16
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Regulate it. Don't ban it.
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 07:24 PM   #17
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Cities like Paris, London and New York have more garish (and lighted) billboards.
those cities aren't in typhoon zones.
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Old Oct 2, 2006, 09:10 PM   #18
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^ Wrong.. the difference is that their billboards are BOLTED on the SIDES OF BUILDINGS. They aren't GOING ANYWHERE.

sa atin, they're standing ALONE... where the winds CAN blow on it FROM THE BACK.

the ones that stand alone are all small.
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Old Oct 3, 2006, 01:32 AM   #19
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as if Manila isn't aesthetically hideous and ghastly enough that corporate giants have to set up those EYESORE BILLBOARDS everywhere!

govt to regulate billboards?! WISHFUL thinking lang yan! our govt is INUTIL!

since the storm has already calmed, pustahan tayo next week nakalimutan na ng gobyerno ang BILLBOARD issue yan!

it will take another "MILENYO" before this ineffective govt finally takes action against these eyesores!
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Old Oct 3, 2006, 03:38 AM   #20
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thats why a law is needed to be passed in congress. with the law, MMDA can enforce it and with their track record, will probably enforce it with gusto and ahead of schedule.

but the ad industry (ad agency association and client association) will probably be more pro-active here. they will probably propose self-regulation with strict guidelines.

if this happens, a law is still needed to supplement self-regulation to include stiff fines and jail term if someone is killed by falling billboards.
That's a good idea. All billboard owners need to contribute, say 100pesos, to a disaster fund everytime a change is done to a billboard. They can pass on the cost to the billboard lessees. So, the fund grows everyday, from investments of the fund and contributions from new lessees. Now, if a death or injury occurs as a result of falling billboards, all claimants are paid out of the fund balance. No questions asked. The amount of payment shall be 50% of the fund balance divided by the number of qualified claimants.
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