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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by michelle005
    I did not say naman that I don't have any fault on this. It takes two to tango and if one fails to dance the same beat then both of you will fall.I am not blaming him. I am merely sighting some situation that I felt hurt and some things that contribute to what I am feeling right now. Kasi you would not understand where this confusion is coming from if this was not mentioned. Ayane,are you married na ba? Siguro hindi pa becoz you don't have an inkling of how a married life can be. Di ko sinasabi na puro hirap at di ko rin rin sinasabi na puro sarap. Madaling sabihin na magdecide pero in reality there are lots of things to be consider besides you don't DECIDE on how you feel, Nararamdaman yun.
    i'll give you a clue, hija. when my parents separated, it was because one of them fell out of love. the other tried to heal the gap, but it was too late.

    it was almost a decade afterwards that one of them told me what really happened. one fell out of love and had to courage to admit it and face the truth. of course, that one was blamed for the failed marriage for years, but when it was explained to me, i hugged that parent and said, "at least you made a decision and stuck to it. and now i see that you're happy with your life, i'm happy for you too."

    that's what i mean by making a decision and sticking to it. that parent was ridiculed and 'hated' by the whole family, extended family included, but stuck to the decision he/she made. it was years before everything was fine, but that parent did not waver on his/her decision. and i'm proud of that fact.

  2. #22
    hi michelle, i believe we're both in a similar situation.when i'm browing the forum, i was strucked by your post. i think it's exactly what i'm looking for. i'm not good at starting threads or telling my own story...but when i have read your thread, i felt like i was reading my OWN story... you know michelle and dami nating similarities sa present situation natin.

    ang dami kong gustong sabihin sa husband ko pero i'm getting tired of "talking". nahihirapan nako ipa-intindi s kanya yung mga gusto ko sabihin and sometimes we ended up arguing. minsan kc magsstart palang akong magsalita,sasabihin nya pagod ***..we'll tak some other time...or sometimes kala nya biro lang lahat.he's not a serious type of person eh.parang lahat s knya ok lang when in fact hindi talga ok...

    financially, feeling ko he's not giving his best para mabigay nya sa amin yung basic needs ng family namin.several times, ako talga yung gumagawa ng paraan pag sobrang gipit na.parang sobrang kuntento lang *** sa kung ano ang natatanggap nya. ni hindi nya iniisip kng sapat ba yun sa mga araw-araw na gastos. and minsan **** sariling income ko na,nagtataka pa *** kng bakit ang bilis maubos eh halos para sa house at s 2 kids ko napupunta salary ko... i don't even treat myself s sariling pera ko...minsan *** may gustong-gusto ako bilin para sa sarili ko iniisip ko na mas kailangan s bahay yung perang gagamitin ko...hindi ko man lang ma-enjoy yung sarili kong money.

    emotionally, like your husband he's not creative in doing things to please me.hindi *** romantic pero ganun n *** eversince so hindi ko naman hinahanap p yun sa kanya.kaya lang minsan tayong mga girls nid din natin yung romance sa relationship diba.*** simpleng text lang ok n sa atin.

    physically, we used to have an active sex life pero for the first time in 12 years...we've gone through 2 weeks of no sex at all.it's so unlikely sa amin pero it happened and i don't know till when. he made several attempts to go intimate pero i refused.it's like wala talga ako sa mood.i know na kung talgang gusto nya,he'll be more persistent like before pero ngyn parang kuntento n *** na kung ayaw ko eh di wag...

    mentally, nad-drain nko kakaisip kng pano ko ipapa-intindi s knya n kailangan na nya maging serious sa buhay.na kailangan nya gumawa ng extra effort para ma-provide nya lahat ng pangangailangan ng family nya.and nahihirapan nako i-push sya upwards kc pinipigilan nya.oo, i want him to go a step higher s carrer nya and i'm always supportive pagdating dun pero wala o kulang talga effort nya...

    hayy.. sobrang haba n yata to...i'm sorry pero i really nid to write all these kc masikip narin dibdib ko.wala narin ako mapag-hingahan ng lahat ng nasa loob ko. pcencya n kung wala akong nabigay na advice coz i'm also looking for one...

    hope things will improve soon....

  3. #23
    first and foremost feeling "in love" alone will not sustain a marriage . but commitment will . "for better or worse, for richer and poorer, in sickness and in health." .. of course ang sarap ng in love - ang sarap ng passionate sex, ang sarap ng kiniklig tuwing hahalikan ka niya .. eventually all relationships will become too familiar that the passion diminishes. but there are couples who keep the passion by finding ways to make sex more exciting. before my hubby n I got married we were steady for 8 years, married now for 15 years. siempre naman it became routinary .. so we come up with ways to keep the fire. we role play, we talk dirty while having sex. we do it almost evry night still.

    am i totally happy with him? no of course not infact i sometimes wonder if hes the one for me .. kasi i feel nga we dont communicate vey well. pero, looking at my situation - wala na rin naman akong hahanapin. hes responsible,he a great dad,he loves me unconditionally, he puts up with my crap, hes strong - he knows what he wants and does not give up easily. hes well mannered . . like you im the who is more intellectual kaya minsan i cannot discuss intellectual matters with him. as long as hes not beating me up, hes not drinking too much,hes not cheating on me .. so what if hes not perfect . when we fight -- oh yes -- me threat sometimes na "dapt siguro maghiwalay na tayo.." pero haggang dun lang yun.

    i have two things to advise you 1) think of his good qualities and appreciate them, accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative 2) instead of pointing out what his faults are, work on changing yourself first - work on changing your attitude - remember you cant change other people but you can change your attitude .

    last thing ..a woman who's been married for 37 years said " the secret of successful marriage is dont fall out of love at the same time. if im not feeling it (the love), he hangs on, if hes not feeling it, i hang on .. dont just fall out of love at the same time."
    ill be bold enough to ask .. baka naman me ina-eye kang iba? are you finding some guy attrctive and your developing feelings for him ?. in most cases kasi pg ganyn magsalita ang babae -- me iba na kasing ngpapakilig sa kanya.

  4. #24
    Sobrang naiyak naman ako sa post mo janhiz and uhlala.

    Janhiz, I emphatize with you.We are really in the same situation.Kagabi lang we talked again about our problem ( read na lang my previous post in this thread if di mo pala alam latest prob namin)..At first, ok naman naman ang usapan until dumating sa point na binibigyan ka ng ridiculous answers. Sobrang pinipigilan ko ang sarili kong wag magalit and still continously putting all my efforts to discuss our problem the pros and cons of our decision etc. I even make it a point to tell him na di ko sya pinipilit pero what's impt is to decide for the right reason. Know what, tinayuan nya ako in the middle of the discussion saying he just have to go to the CR. So ako naman, ok lang..Then,nung hindi na bumalik at sinilip ko..He's watching TV na. I was so frustrated at napaiyak talaga ako..Sa totoo lang, kung sarili lang namin ang iniisip ko walang problema,eh..Kaya lang pag nakikita ko yung anak ko, naaawa ako sa kanya kasi dapat naghahanda na kami for his future.Now, pag ganyan ang asawa ko masisisi ba nya ako pag I'm cold to him..Pag-halos ayaw ko nang makipag-usap or makatabi sya sa gabi. Sobrang drain na ako. Nakakaubos ng lakas. Sa totoo lang, it maybe a financial matter for both of us but hindi yun ang point talga.Kasi pera lang yan. Mas masakit yung todo bigay ka ng effort para sa pamilya pero yung supposedly katuwang mo sa buhay will not support you. Mahirap kasi situation ng mga babae,eh.Tayo, we have to discuss it with our husband before we make a decision becoz we respect their role in the family pero sila we cannot condemn them if they make or not make a decision. Ako, hangad ko lang at this point that my husband would be MAN enough to make decision for the family. Kung ano man yung decision nya, if he said that I'll just resign from job. I will accept and support him at least I can now move on and think of other ways like having business here or start looking for home based jobs or per project basis job etc. At least may direction diba? Mahirap kasi gumalaw ng walang direction.

    To Uhlala naman..Thank you for the sound advise. To answer you question,wala. I am completely focus with being a mother right now. To us women, di naman masyado important ang sex life. For me, if you are happy and contented with your marriage, sex follows or should I say making love. True that there is no perfect marriage or husband. And we need to concentrate talaga sa good attributes ng ating mga asawa or else the marriage WILL definitely fail. Sometimes, pag galit na galit na talaga ako..And I am on the verge of packing my bags, naiisip ko na lang yung pagiging faithful nya, pagiging maprinsipyo, honest a pagiging good father nya. I know I will break my son's heart pag nahiwalay kami.

    To Ayane naman, I respect your parents decision of separating. But believe me, it is not that easy decide. Yes, one of them fell out of love but as you have said they TRIED to heal the gap. And that's what we are still trying to do. Hangga't kaya ko pa..Yun yung sinasabi ni Uhlala, just don't fall in love at the same time..Kasi pag nangyari yun..wala na talaga pero until meron pang isa sa inyo na willing to save the marriage then may pag-asa pa.

  5. #25
    i will say this .. it seems that you are focusing TOO MUCH on changing your husband. well you know what? you are in for a loss cause coz YOU CANNOT.I can relate to you because i too have difficulty communicating to my husband . like you when theres an issue .. money,kids,in-laws,my depression .. i confront it, i would say .. we need to talk about this .. then he gets defensive he thinks im blaming him when all i want to do is discuss, then because i did not like the way hes reacting then im reacting .. then i get hysterical. its a pattern. that is one issue that we have - we dont communicate well, but ..i realized that men are generally like that, when someting is bothering them - they dont want to talk about it .. they want to be left alone, then tayo namang mga babae take that as " he does not care, he is rejecting me ... blah,blah blah.." theres a good book about communication "Men are from Mars, women are from Venus.." it explains how men differ from women with their approach to handling problems and conflicts. first, dont take it personally, when your hubby walks out n watches TV .. he cares, that is just the way men react under pressure. siguro ayaw din niya na mg away kayo kaya imbes na mgsigawn kayo iwas na lang. in the book .. it said that because men are expected to provide and take care of problems, when there is a problem and they cannot fix it .. they dont talk it out they go back to "their caves" to re-think, and when they are ready, then they come out. like i said .. intead of focusing on changing your husband, focus on changing your attitude, instead of thinking why does he not want to talk to me, focus on that is just the way he is. the more they pull away, the more we push .. we ( women) need to respect mens need for space. my second point - how does your husband feel by pointing out to your husband that what hes doing (his job) and what hes making is not enough? masakit sa lahat ang pamukha sa kanila na kulang ang ginagawa nila to provide for the family. so if you are not contented with what he makes? again rather than pushing him to go out and take masteral .. why dont you? do you work?go have a business on the side, if money is the issue here. YOU CANT CHANGE OTHERS, but you can change your attitude. let me ask you something? wont u rather have a husband whos not too ambitious but hes there besides you and there to participate in raising your kid? kesa naman husband na malaki nga kita pero laging *** sa bahay and has no time to spend to spend with the family. i will leave you with this ..a succesful multi millionaire who was dying said his biggest regret "was not spending enough time with my family." you would never hear them say "i wish i had spent more time in the office, or make more money."

    BY the way .. its a big mistake to think that to us women, di naman masyado important ang sex life. If anything .. the older we get, the longer we are married, the more we should look sex as 'important..' .I look at it this way, during the day, he works, i work, when we come home we take care of household stuff, look after kids, which can be very strssful, but when he goes to bed, he waits up for me, we kiss, we ..make love,thats the time we connect, thats the time we are focusing ourselves to each other, and only i can give him that. another tip .. make him happier in bed, make him feel his manhood is very much appreciated.Make him feel that he is still desirable and sexy. Malay mo .. ma inspire mas ipakita niya na MAN enough siya. Imbes na sabihin natin .." bat kasi hindi ka mag aral, o bakit kasi hindi ka mghanap ng ibang trabaho.. blah,blah.." lets say " darling lam mo bilib ako sa talent mo.. ano kaya subukan mong ..." . first you pointed his asset, his talent, then you ask " ano kaya" , instead of dictating.

    i do not say my marriage is perfect .. far from it, i cannot even say im perfectly happy, but i learned to take what i have and make it work because of my commitment.

    the way i see it, your husband is just being himself, you just expect too much from him. if communication is the problem, seek counselling, or go talk to your mom and sister, they may not solve the problem but the mere talking to someone sometimes helps. we women have a need to be heard.

  6. #26
    Beerhand Gets Big Pots GreatBop's Avatar
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    so.. are you now open for dating other men????

  7. #27

    aamen ako sayo sis... natumbok mo.
    sa pagbasa ko ng iyong mensahe... prang
    gusto kong bumalik sa pagkatunay na lalakwe!

    aihihihi!!!

    baklita


  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by uhlala
    i will say this .. it seems that you are focusing TOO MUCH on changing your husband. well you know what? you are in for a loss cause coz YOU CANNOT.I can relate to you because i too have difficulty communicating to my husband . like you when theres an issue .. money,kids,in-laws,my depression .. i confront it, i would say .. we need to talk about this .. then he gets defensive he thinks im blaming him when all i want to do is discuss, then because i did not like the way hes reacting then im reacting .. then i get hysterical. its a pattern. that is one issue that we have - we dont communicate well, but ..i realized that men are generally like that, when someting is bothering them - they dont want to talk about it .. they want to be left alone, then tayo namang mga babae take that as " he does not care, he is rejecting me ... blah,blah blah.." theres a good book about communication "Men are from Mars, women are from Venus.." it explains how men differ from women with their approach to handling problems and conflicts. first, dont take it personally, when your hubby walks out n watches TV .. he cares, that is just the way men react under pressure. siguro ayaw din niya na mg away kayo kaya imbes na mgsigawn kayo iwas na lang. in the book .. it said that because men are expected to provide and take care of problems, when there is a problem and they cannot fix it .. they dont talk it out they go back to "their caves" to re-think, and when they are ready, then they come out. like i said .. intead of focusing on changing your husband, focus on changing your attitude, instead of thinking why does he not want to talk to me, focus on that is just the way he is. the more they pull away, the more we push .. we ( women) need to respect mens need for space. my second point - how does your husband feel by pointing out to your husband that what hes doing (his job) and what hes making is not enough? masakit sa lahat ang pamukha sa kanila na kulang ang ginagawa nila to provide for the family. so if you are not contented with what he makes? again rather than pushing him to go out and take masteral .. why dont you? do you work?go have a business on the side, if money is the issue here. YOU CANT CHANGE OTHERS, but you can change your attitude. let me ask you something? wont u rather have a husband whos not too ambitious but hes there besides you and there to participate in raising your kid? kesa naman husband na malaki nga kita pero laging *** sa bahay and has no time to spend to spend with the family. i will leave you with this ..a succesful multi millionaire who was dying said his biggest regret "was not spending enough time with my family." you would never hear them say "i wish i had spent more time in the office, or make more money."

    BY the way .. its a big mistake to think that to us women, di naman masyado important ang sex life. If anything .. the older we get, the longer we are married, the more we should look sex as 'important..' .I look at it this way, during the day, he works, i work, when we come home we take care of household stuff, look after kids, which can be very strssful, but when he goes to bed, he waits up for me, we kiss, we ..make love,thats the time we connect, thats the time we are focusing ourselves to each other, and only i can give him that. another tip .. make him happier in bed, make him feel his manhood is very much appreciated.Make him feel that he is still desirable and sexy. Malay mo .. ma inspire mas ipakita niya na MAN enough siya. Imbes na sabihin natin .." bat kasi hindi ka mag aral, o bakit kasi hindi ka mghanap ng ibang trabaho.. blah,blah.." lets say " darling lam mo bilib ako sa talent mo.. ano kaya subukan mong ..." . first you pointed his asset, his talent, then you ask " ano kaya" , instead of dictating.

    i do not say my marriage is perfect .. far from it, i cannot even say im perfectly happy, but i learned to take what i have and make it work because of my commitment.

    the way i see it, your husband is just being himself, you just expect too much from him. if communication is the problem, seek counselling, or go talk to your mom and sister, they may not solve the problem but the mere talking to someone sometimes helps. we women have a need to be heard.
    ...puwede mo ba sabihan yan sa wife ko...ang hirap kasi paliwanagan yun...na tumbok mo lahat

    bibili nga ako nung libro na yan

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by GreatBop
    so.. are you now open for dating other men????
    greatbop, hahaha .. i had always assumed you are a woman. guy ka pala. nway who are you asking " now open for dating other men??" .. me or the threadstarter?.. no im not open to dating but im open to making new friends, always naman.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by webfreak
    ...puwede mo ba sabihan yan sa wife ko...ang hirap kasi paliwanagan yun...na tumbok mo lahat

    bibili nga ako nung libro na yan
    Wow, may nagreact na guy...It will be nice to hear a guys point of view kung ok lang sa yo.

  11. #31
    What qualities did you like about him? Why did you choose to marry him? What kind of person did he allow you to be before the marriage, and after the marriage what kind of person are you?

  12. #32

    This Will Help!

    Greetings to Michelle and other pexers:

    ur story is a classic and is a replica of what happens in most household and marriages all over the world. Here is my own definition of LOVE and please really search urself and find its real meaning:

    LOVE IS BASICALLY THE WILL TO EXTEND ONESELF FOR THE PURPOSE OF NURTURING ONE'S OWN AND ANOTHER's SPIRITUAL GROWTH.

    If I ask u what is the purpose of ur husband, what would be ur answer?

    THE PURPOSE OF A HUSBAND IS TO GROW TO BE THE MOST OF WHICH HE IS CAPABLE NOT FOR UR BENEFIT BUT FOR HIS BENEFIT AND FOR THE GLORY OF GOD!

    This is also meant for the wife's purpose.

    Michelle, and others who have similar problems or those starting their marriages, check out some courses which I recommend. Very effective indeed:

    1. HOW TO START A SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE

    2. HOW TO REKINDLE AND RENEW UR MARRIAGE

    3. HOW TO IMPROVE UR MARRIAGE

    Madali solvin yang problems nyo. Believe me.
    Il give u d direct # of the center for the course. You will never b d same again, and instead ul see some positive changes. Guaranteed!

    Call up Mr. Al Montano at 7210521/ 09209100125. Try to mention ur from PEX so that he might give some discount. Spread the word to others para matulungan din sila.

    Take care. Ciao.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by ayane

    that's what i mean by making a decision and sticking to it. that parent was ridiculed and 'hated' by the whole family, extended family included, but stuck to the decision he/she made. it was years before everything was fine, but that parent did not waver on his/her decision. and i'm proud of that fact.
    react lang ako dito...mejo huli ko na nabasa tong post mo

    isn't marriage a decision as well, and they are suppose to "stick" on that
    decision.

    @Michelle
    That's why the wife is called "ilaw ng tahanan" so she can be a guide to the family, be strong! Ipaglaban mo ang family mo, do not let it go just like that. Me and my wife had fights as well, and we almost ended up separating but, in our hearts we want to keep pressing on, we want to preserve the relationship, if that is what you and your husband wants to do, go to marriage counselors, go to priests (if you're a catholic) or someone spiritually and mentally able to help you. Prayer works!

  14. #34
    Michelle...what you need is some guidance from our Creator....this is very sensitive.Life must go on and no aone can help you but you yourself...it's nice to be honest with your feelings ...try to be stronger and have faith in your vow...kaya mo yan

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by vctor
    react lang ako dito...mejo huli ko na nabasa tong post mo

    isn't marriage a decision as well, and they are suppose to "stick" on that
    decision.
    marriage is a decision, yes.

    but i'd rather decide to end it if i don't love my husband anymore rather than "stick" to it just because i signed a piece of paper.

    and since that parent knew that the feeling wasn't there anymore, no matter how the other tried to rekindle the relationship, nothing happened.

    there are just times when enough is enough. and with how i see both of them now, i think they made a good decision to just split.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by ayane
    marriage is a decision, yes.

    but i'd rather decide to end it if i don't love my husband anymore rather than "stick" to it just because i signed a piece of paper.

    and since that parent knew that the feeling wasn't there anymore, no matter how the other tried to rekindle the relationship, nothing happened.

    there are just times when enough is enough. and with how i see both of them now, i think they made a good decision to just split.
    kaya nga dapat may divorce dito sa Pilipinas eh...the only problem is baka mawili naman yung iba at abusuhin yung pagdidivorce.....

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by ambrosiusmyrdin
    kaya nga dapat may divorce dito sa Pilipinas eh...the only problem is baka mawili naman yung iba at abusuhin yung pagdidivorce.....
    with great power, comes great responsibility - spiderman

    problem is... i don't think we know (and understand) the word!

  18. #38

    Re:

    Quote Originally Posted by ayane
    with great power, comes great responsibility - spiderman

    problem is... i don't think we know (and understand) the word!
    PRECISELY!That's the problem within us....We don't know what responsibility is...educating what divorce is, is not the issue here...it's being responsible if ever na maimplement siya (which I doubt)

  19. #39
    hello michelle!,
    we are in the same situation! lahat actually ng nararamdaman mo, ganun din ang nararamdaman ko.. pero i think mine is worst because i've come to that point wherein i've totally shut myself from the possibilities of reconciliation with my husband. kase ang difference lang sa story natin is that since we got married, nag iba na ang character nya... as in feeling ko he's neglecting me, di sya sweet thoughful nor caring! binabale-wala nya ako... atleast that's how i felt... tapos naging manhind ako! i always told him about how i felt, kase ako malambing ako sobra.. sometimes he pushes me away by saying "pwede mamaya ka na magkwento/magsalita pag commercial na (cause he's watching t.v)" basta something like that! ang sama diba.. and mas marami pang ibang ganyang liners ang sinasabi nya na mas matindi kaya namanhid talaga ako! sinabi ko talaga sa kanya na wala na ako ng nararamdaman sa kanya... its been like 3-4 months since we last has "contact"... as in no more lambingan or whatever.. we have a 4 year old son.. i really dont know what to do anymore... he's making an effort to win me back.. but so far.. wala talaga effect.. ano kaya gagawin ko? haaay.. ikaw ano balak mo gawin? just to give you a back ground... 3 years kami mag bf then i got pregnant, so we got married last 2002... then were almost 4 years this april 18.. pero feeling ko hopeless case na toh kase ang pakiramdam ko talaga, manhid na ako because of the way he treated me.. feeling ko parang roomates lang kami for like a year ko naramdaman yun. i always told him that pero di nya sineryoso... ewan ko na!

  20. #40
    well, there's no other time like this kind of crucial times to prove your vows to each other and to your church(if any church was involved). "In sickness and in health, for richer or for poorer, till death do us part." Quite amazing to realize that those vows will actually play some significant roles one day huh? Or maybe days? Let's go with months. It can also be a year, or years.

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