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  1. #1

    Question sino ba si Rizal sa inyo?

    curious lang

  2. #2
    Rizal? One of the greatest doctor in the Philippine History. Sabi ng "mang-mang" ko , kalahi daw namin si Rizal.. I guess, he is a part of me.. a genuine and authentic legacy.

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    EntrePinoy
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    I'm not sure. He had a lot of contradictions. There's also many open questions about him:

    Was he working for better treatment of Pinoys as SPANISH SUBJECTS? Or was he working for independence? Did his concerns against Spain grow out of an outrage against oppression of the WHOLE Filipino people (regardless of class) or was it the rage of a privileged few (ilustrado)? Why was HE (instead of Bonifacio and others) picked by the AMERICANS as Filipinos' hero? What ideological or colonial benefits did his designation as "hero" confer on the American colonial administration?

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    Bakit nga ba si Rizal ang hero natin?
    Hindi lang naman siya yung matalio that time, diba?
    He did published some books para maging open-minded anf mga pinoy, pero yun din naman ginawa ng uiba ha?
    Why not Bonifacio? He died to save us...
    I forgot na the history pero cashwriter meron kang point...

  6. #6
    Ang alam ko lang Avenida Rizal.

  7. #7
    If there's something that I learned from my Rizal class now in college, it is that Rizal NEVER asked for freedom from the Spaniards. He was asking for ASSIMILATION. He wanted the Philippines to be a PROVINCE OF SPAIN, NOT establish an independent state.

  8. #8
    a guy who wrote el fili and noli mi...that's it!

  9. #9
    oh.. so that means.. ayaw niya pala maging free ang philippines? so gusto niya pala na maging parte ng Spain ang Philippines? What a hypocite!!!!!! So akala niya talaga that hindi uulad ang bayan natin without Spain?

    I think I have read a diary of Rizal. Tapos, I think na he really praised the other countries.. he likes america though. Bonifacio should be the hero.. .Rizal is a jerk,,

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    Your Dirty Angel
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    ^^ correct... hindi dpat c Rizal ang pambansang bayani dahil:
    1. Babaero
    2. Did he really fought for philippine freedom
    3. as far as i know, ang gusto lang nya ay maging pantay ang mga filipino sa mga spanish.

    what if mahirap c Rizal at nde nkapag-aral? will he still be the National Hero? I guess not....

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    mga Amerikano ang pumili kay rizal para gawing natonal hero ng ating bansa ng nasasakop pa nila tayo noon.

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    mga Amerikano ang pumili kay rizal para gawing natonal hero ng ating bansa ng nasasakop pa nila tayo noon.

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    EntrePinoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2424
    mga Amerikano ang pumili kay rizal para gawing natonal hero ng ating bansa ng nasasakop pa nila tayo noon.
    Yep. This fact cannot be reiterated enough.

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by flimmeryrose741
    Rizal? One of the greatest doctor in the Philippine History. Sabi ng "mang-mang" ko , kalahi daw namin si Rizal.. I guess, he is a part of me.. a genuine and authentic legacy.
    I had the privilege of having Rizal scholar Ambeth Ocampo as my history teacher, who I learned so much from.

    Actually, it seems that Rizal was never a great doctor. After he operated on her, she lost her sight completely instead of regaining some of it. He also tried to deliver his pregnant sister's baby. The sister died in childbirth, the baby died soon after. Some great doctor, huh?

    But medicine was not Rizal's first love. The only reason he went into it at all was to try and cure his mom (and he did try, to be fair). Rizal's strengths were not in the sciences but in the arts. He was a damn good writer, argumentator, and thinker. If you ever get the chance to see Rizal's grades in Ateneo (Bachelor of Arts) and UST (Medicine), you will see a sharp contrast between the two.

  15. #15
    si rizal ang dahilan kaya naging 3rd world country ang pilipinas.. kung ang pilipinas ay nasa kamay ng mga japanese or spanish malamang hindi ganun kahirap ang buhay ng mga pilipino ngayon...

  16. #16
    Si Rizal ay separatista sa ideya, pero repormista sa gawa isang suri ito ni nick joaquin. Tinakwil niya ang ideya ng rebolusyon (ng masa) para sana ay mapalaya tayo at itinaguyod pa rin ang para sa mga ilustrado ng panahon niya.

    Si Rizal ay enigma ng ating bansa, enigma sa maraming tao.

    Subukan ninyong basahin ang mga readings na konektado sa kanya (Fast and Richardson, Roots of Dependency, Ocampo, Rizal: Makabayan at Martir) tungkol sa kanya...Magandang suriin si Rizal sa iba't ibang angulo tulad si Rizal bilang manunulat, mangingibig, enigma atbp.

    Kailangan ng bukas ng isipan bago siya ay husgahan.

  17. #17

    dagdag lang

    original ng Rizal: Makabayan at Martir si Austin Coates

  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoticGnome
    I had the privilege of having Rizal scholar Ambeth Ocampo as my history teacher, who I learned so much from.

    Actually, it seems that Rizal was never a great doctor. After he operated on her, she lost her sight completely instead of regaining some of it. He also tried to deliver his pregnant sister's baby. The sister died in childbirth, the baby died soon after. Some great doctor, huh?

    But medicine was not Rizal's first love. The only reason he went into it at all was to try and cure his mom (and he did try, to be fair). Rizal's strengths were not in the sciences but in the arts. He was a damn good writer, argumentator, and thinker. If you ever get the chance to see Rizal's grades in Ateneo (Bachelor of Arts) and UST (Medicine), you will see a sharp contrast between the two.
    really? wow.. may bago na naman akong natutunan.. bwhahahha.. hindi pala siya magaling na doktor.. bakit kaya hindi yun nakasulat sa history book namin???

  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by rev4maite
    ^^ correct... hindi dpat c Rizal ang pambansang bayani dahil:
    1. Babaero
    2. Did he really fought for philippine freedom
    3. as far as i know, ang gusto lang nya ay maging pantay ang mga filipino sa mga spanish.

    what if mahirap c Rizal at nde nkapag-aral? will he still be the National Hero? I guess not....
    hindi sapat na basehan ang pagiging babaero para hindi maging bayani ang isang tao. basabin mo ang artikulo tungkol kay rizal bilang mangingibig at ang kanyang pagtingin sa kababaihan para sa mas malalim na pagtalakay sa kanyang pagiging babaero. peace.

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    kontrabida
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    sino ba si Rizal sa inyo?

    aba, basta hindi ako yan! hindi ako si Rizal!

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