hello people! here's an interesting topic i got from another forum about our universal queen & celebrity, the 2005 miss universe. the search & coronation in bangkok, thailand can be watched on tv on may 31, 8am (philippines), may 30, 9pm daw (u.s.a.). we are excited na talaga!

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ANY CROWN CONFERRED BY A PRESTIGIOUS & RESPECTED WORLD PAGEANT IS MORE PROMINENT & PRESTIGIOUS THAN THE CROWN OF A QUEEN OR KING IN ANY MONARCHY OR ROYALTY IN THE WORLD FOR:

1) THE CROWN, TITLE & REIGN IS GLOBAL/WORLDWIDE IN SCOPE WHILE THE MONARCH'S REIGN IS LIMITED ONLY TO HIS KINGDOM OR COUNTRY, SAME WITH THE JURISDICTIONS OF PRESIDENTS, PRIME MINISTERS & OTHER NATIONS' LEADERS.

2) THE CROWN & TITLE OF A WORLD PAGEANT IS EARNED (ACQUIRED AS A RESULT OF EFFORT/PERFORMANCE & ACTION) UNLIKE THE CROWN & TITLE OF A MONARCH WHICH IS JUST HANDED DOWN (HEREDITARY OR INHERITED ONLY)!

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cher wrote:

Are you trying to tell us us that Jennifer Hawkins' Mikimoto crown is more prestigious than Queen Elizabeth II's crown?

Angelface wrote:

well... yes, it is! not only queen elizabeth II but all monarchs/royalties as well.

based on the premise of globalphilanthropist, the symbolic crown as well as title and reign of 2005 miss universe jennifer hawkins is worldwide or universal in scope while the symbolic crown, title and reign of queen elizabeth II is limited to U.K. or britain only.

the miss universe crown is earned. queen elizabeth II's crown is just hereditary.

although both of them always have global publicities/exposures through print and broadcast media, miss universe jennifer hawkins is the symbolic queen of the entire universe while queen elizabeth II is the symbolic queen of united kingdom or great britain only.

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cher wrote:

mine is a rhetorical question. while some may say that Jennifer's "scope" of influence is "universal", her reign lasts only for less than 365 days. queens reign for decades.

nevertheless, there shouldn't be any comparison in the first place. they are not of the same level, no?

angelface wrote:

time is not an issue--if the miss universe reigns for only 1 year and the monarchs reign for years--for there is ALWAYS a miss universe and there are always monarchs. all of them have worldwide prominence and influence because they have always global publicities.

but certainly, a miss universe (or a prestigious world beauty queen) is not comparable to any monarch and they are not on the same level. the miss universe reign is REALLY worldwide and universal. MISS UNIVERSE (or any prestigious and respected world pageant) is a WORLD EVENT that involves countries/nations and all continents of the world, and is witnessed live by the whole world.

a monarch's reign is confined and limited only to his kingdom or country. his/her coronation is just a kingdom's affair though other nations' leaders are invited as guests. but definitely it is NOT a world event. the affair is held only in the kingdom and does NOT involve any country. it is only well-publicized worldwide.

in the strict sense of the word, the universe, or cosmos that comprises all the galaxies, stars and planets and all that exist (visibel &invisible, material & nonmaterial, living & nonliving), is truly incomparable to any kingdom or country in the world. great britain or u.k. can never be greater than the universe!

the universe is the ultimate and the greatest entirety of reality!

that's the truth!

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Anonymous wrote:

realistically miss universe is merely a talent of the miss universe inc. she wields no power. true she is known worldwide. but if you have actually traveled around the world, you'll realize that beauty contests are not that respected in most parts of the world except in latin america, thailand, philippines, korea and some parts of canada and united states.

miss universe has no actual power to legislate rules and regulations for countries. she cannot truly establish world peace. she is purely a model, an entertainer and a talent ot donald trump and NBC.

she has no legal or political power to speak of.

some people should better have a clearer grasp of reality.

we love pageants. we love beauty queens, especially miss universe. but we should over-idealize our perceptions.

globalphilanthropist wrote:

Yes, realistically, the Miss Universe is not only a global role model, a global ambassador of peace and goodwill, a global talent and entertainer, the global epitome of a woman of the earth, but Miss Universe is the symbolic queen of the entire universe. Queen Elizabeth II is the symbolic queen of U.K. only.

Speaking of power, some royalties/monarchs have no actual legal or political power such as the British royalty. They are mere symbolic. Their affairs are only very well-publicized globally through print & broadcast media like Michael Jackson that's why they also get millions of foreign, avid fans and fanatics.

Of course a world beauty queen is not a politician or a monarch who are invested with the power to govern and lead a country or kingdom.

If I'm not mistaken, in many countries, the power to make and amend laws are done by the senate and congress, and the leader approves them into laws. In reality, the political or legal powers of any nation's leader comes from the people/countrymen who invested/endowed him/her with those powers.

And no one is above the law. All nations' leaders in the world are subject to the laws of their lands. In history, we have seen many empowered leaders of nations who became powerless and were put to jail because of their great unlawful deeds and, likewise, monarchs who were dethroned.

Just for the sake of comparison, I rephrased the reasons of Angelface for us to have the best grasp of reality. We now realize these clear, valid, truthful and realistic distinctions:

1) The Miss Universe Coronation is a world event that involves countries/nations and all continents of the world, and is witnessed live by the whole world. The coronation of a monarch is just a kingdom's internal affair though other nations' leaders are invited as guests. but definitely it is not a world event. The affair is held only in the kingdom and does not involve any country. It is only well-publicized worldwide.

In the strict sense of the word, the universe or cosmos that comprises all the galaxies, stars and planets and all that exist (visible and invisible, material and nonmaterial, living and nonliving), is truly incomparable to any kingdom or country in the world. Great Britain or U.K. can never be greater than the universe!

The Universe is the ultimate and the greatest totality of reality!

2) The crown, title and reign of a world beauty queen is global or worldwide in scope while the crown, title and reign of a monarch/royalty is confined or limited only to his/her kingdom or country. Likewise with the authority, power and jurisdiction of any nation's leader in the world which is also limited to his/her country or nation only.

3) The crown, title and reign of a world beauty queen is earned (acquired as a result of her effort, performance and action) while the crown, title and reign of a monarch/royalty is hereditary (just handed down or inherited only).

4) A nation's leader (prime minister or president) acquired his position and is put to power (which is invested in him/her by the people) by a popularity contest called poll or political election. What the political candidate has to do is to just vie and aim for the highest or most number of votes through intensive and massive solicitations of votes. He/she who is the most popular candidate, who obtains the highest number of votes, wins the popularity contest or political election!

5) Just like the political election of all nations' leaders (politicians) in the world, even the pope is also elected through a popularity contest called conclave, the secret meeting of all cardinals to elect the pope. What the would-be pope has to do is to just vie and hope for the highest number of votes of his fellow cardinals from different nations, then he just waits for the result. The most popular cardinal, who obtains the most number of votes, wins and acquires the papacy!

Some countries are just narrow-minded and don't realize the global significance of world pageants despite their many important global causes that greatly help and make our planet a better place to live in. These noble, global causes and objectives of world pageants for the world cannot even be done globally by any nation's leader or monarch/royaltyfor most of them are only concerned with their own respective countries or kingdoms.

Regardless of nationalities, races, cultures, religions or ideologies, world beauty contests/pageants play an important and significant global role and impact to the world. With their noble causes and great objectives for the upliftment and betterment of humankind and this planet, truly, they deserve the high respect and appreciation of the whole world.

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Anonymous wrote:

but a fixation towards beauty pageants as though it is extremely important, even comparing it to monarchy and papacy...

globalphilanthropist wrote:

I'm not only a PHILANTHROPIST (a person who has great love for humankind, to promote human welfare & increase the well-being of humankind). I'm also an AESTHETE (a person who cultivates a superior appreciation & sensitivity to Beauty). I promote AESTHETICS (the branch of Philosophy dealing with the nature, creation and appreciation of Beauty) and AESTHETICISM (the Doctrine that Beauty is the basic principle from which all others are derived).

BEAUTY is anything or any quality that pleases the mind or the senses. Speaking of BEAUTY PAGEANTS, I really love them for they are spectacles & entertainments which are good respites from the hustle & bustle, concerns & problems of our daily living.

Indeed, it's true that MISS UNIVERSE is: 1) THE WORLD'S MOST PRESTIGIOUS CROWN 2) THE WORLD'S MOST PRESTIGIOUS TITLE, and 3) THE WORLD'S GREATEST BEAUTY PAGEANT--A SINGLE, RENOWNED WORLD EVENT WATCHED LIVE BY MORE THAN 2 BILLION PEOPLE GLOBAL TV AUDIENCE!!

PERHAPS THOSE ARE THE REASONS WHY SOME MONARCHIES IN THE WORLD (COUNTRIES WITH CROWN QUEENS SUCH AS ENGLAND OR THE BRITISH ROYALTY) DO NOT SEND A REPRESENTATIVE IN THE MISS UNIVERSE (& OTHER WORLD-RENOWNED PAGEANTS) FOR THE CROWN BRITISH QUEEN IS SURPASSED OR MIGHT BE INSECURE BY THE GREAT GLOBAL PRESTIGE OF THE CROWNED MISS UNIVERSE QUEEN! THE MONARCHS OR THE BRITISH QUEEN'S REIGN IS LIMITED ONLY TO GREAT BRITAIN/U.K. BUT THE MISS UNIVERSE QUEEN REIGNS THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE--THE SYMBOLIC QUEEN OF THE WHOLE UNIVERSE!!!

Aside from being THE ROLE MODELS & THE EPITOMES OF WOMANHOOD in each particular country, NATIONAL & INT'L BEAUTY QUEENS (being NONSHOWBIZ CELEBRITIES or FIGURES) can also serve as AMBASSADORS OF GOODWILL fostering love, hope, peace & unity among their countrymen & among nations as well.

I really admire the committed organizations (the ALTRUISTIC, GREAT & NOBLE MEN & WOMEN) in countries that produce int’l pageants yearly as their means of raising big funds to support their NOBLE CAUSES such as:

PHILANTHROPIC / CHARITABLE / HUMANITARIAN PROJECTS & ACTIVITIES—global AIDS Disease Info & Prevention Campaign, etc. (by MISS UNIVERSE);

ENVIRONMENTAL / ECOLOGICAL PROTECTION & PRESERVATION OF MOTHER EARTH & MOTHER NATURE (by MISS EARTH);

FOR THE WELFARE IN PLIGHT OF THE WORLD’S STREET CHILDREN, INDIGENTS, ETC. (by MISS WORLD);

PROMOTION OF INT'L EXCHANGE BY PRIVATE DEMOCRATIC DISCOURSE & INTERCULTURAL COMMUNICATION (by MISS INTERNATIONAL);

PROMOTION & CULTIVATION OF WORLD ARTS & CULTURE (as in LA MAJA INTERNACIONAL’S (MS. MAJA INT'L) DE GOYA’S MAJA PAINTINGS & ARTISTIC & LITERARY WORKS PROMOTIONS/COMPETITIONS);

PROMOTION OF GLOBAL TRAVEL & WORLD TOURISM THAT GENERATE MORE TRAVEL & TOURISM PRODUCTS & SERVICES THAT PRODUCE MORE JOBS & EMPLOYMENTS WORLDWIDE (by MISS TOURISM INTERNATIONAL);

INDEED, THEY DISPROVE THE WORLD’S PERCEPTION & IMPRESSION (SUCH AS BY MUSLIMS, FEMINISTS, SOME COUNTRIES, ETC.) THAT WORLD BEAUTY PAGEANTS ARE JUST VANITIES & FRIVOLITIES & EXPLOITATIONS OF WOMEN.

BUT, IN THE CONTRARY & IN REALITY, NATIONAL & INT'L/WORLD BEAUTY PAGEANTS HAVE GLOBAL, SOCIAL, ARTISTIC & CULTURAL, ECONOMIC & ENVIRONMENTAL SIGNIFICANCE & RELEVANCE THAT THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE GREATLY TO THE UPLIFTMENT & BETTERMENT OF THE LIVES OF THE COUNTRYMEN IN THEIR RESPECTIVE COUNTRIES & IN THE WORLD AS A WHOLE!MISS UNIVERSE 2005