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  1. #1

    Question hyperacidity or peptic ulcer disease???

    hindi ko alam kung ano ang tawag sa nararamdaman ko. ang mga sintomas ay palpitations or bumibilis ang pintig ng pulso ko, belching, may masakit sa tiyan ko sa may taas banda at lumalabo paningin ko minsan.

    help naman. gusto kong mapanatag ang loob ko.

    sabi ng family doctor namin hyperacidity daw iyon. dapat daw lagyan ko ng laman ang tiyan ko lagi at kumain ng marami o kaya every two hours at matulog ng tama.

    ang mga gamot na pinainom niya sa akin ay pantoloc para sa sikmura ko, inderal sa palpitations, at contylan (antacid na sa clinic lang nila available).

    sabi niya din ang panlabo daw ng paningin ko eh kasi nga gutom na ako ng oras na iyon.

    normal naman ang electrolytes ko, negative ako for hepa, typhoid, or salmonella. tapos na din ang 2 wks treatment ko for h.pylori.

    nahihirapan ako this past few days kasi madalas ko pa din maramdaman iyong palpitations ko na napaka bilis at kapag ganoon kumakain na ako at kapag hindi mawala iniinom ko ang inderal na as needed lang ayon sa reseta niya.

    iyong mga may kakilala o nakaranas na ng ganitong symptoms share naman kayo diyan oh. thanks.

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    for clarification, patients w/ peptic ulcer disease (PUD) experience stomach pains in the epigastric area (area above your umbilicus) starting at night till early morning (when the acid secretions peak) causing insomnia, relieved by food intake. these patients are prohibited to drink coffee, softdrinks, orange juice, chocolates, milk, advised to stop smoking. treatment consists of proton pump inhibitors (omeprazole, pantoprazole), h2 blockers, antibiotics (if you're h. pylori positive), cytoprotective agents.

    i was diagnosed w/ gastritis (manifestations similar to PUD but more difficult to treat) since january 2003, and i have it until now.

    sorry but ndi ako nakaranas ng palpitations at panlabo ng paningin nung nagka-gastritis ako. actually, i've been near sighted for 10 yrs now and kung napapansin ko na lumalabo ang paningin ko (at kasamang sakit ng ulo), i'd go to an optical shop to check my vision.

    ndi kaya hyperthyroid at may visual disturbances (near-sighted) ka since u said na may palpitations ka pa rin?

  3. #3
    Eto lang tips ko sayo sis although di ako DR. pero it will help you i guess: Combination of hyperacidity and indigestion ang nararamdaman mo. YUng palpitation, due to too much gas na nasa tummy mo, kase siguro sa mga nakakain mong food. Iwasan mo lang mga sweets, milk and sobrang fruits , veggies na mahirap tunawin kase acidic ka. Try mo na kumain ng konti lang, and then, lagi ka drink ng warm water pag nakakaramdam ka ng palpitation.Pag nag fart ka, yun na yun gas na nagpapasakit ng tummy mo at cause ng palpitation. Avoid sodas muna or cold water, for a week, para malaman mo result kung gas pain and indigestion nga lang yan. Tell me if it's effective okay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikay_gurl
    YUng palpitation, due to too much gas na nasa tummy mo, kase siguro sa mga nakakain mong food.
    i have to disagree with this statement..

    palpitation is described as abnormal heartbeat sensation, associated with a feeling of fluttering or thumping experienced by the patient. it could be a symptom of organic HEART disease (due to a change in the heart rate or rhythm, or strength of contraction), or of an overactive thyroid gland or could be anemia. even healthy individuals experience it because of stimulants, caffeine, cola drinks, undue exertion, shock or excitement.

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    Well, i based these on my own experience 2 yrs ago. Been to lots of lab tests, but the only dose is to stay away from that gas causing rapid heartbeat. But i dont literally recommend that this is the best med for that, im just citing some tips at least to ease the pain for the meantime and thats why im telling her to observe for a week.. As for you soon to be MD, I respect your field since this is your forte.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by regptrp_md2b
    for clarification, patients w/ peptic ulcer disease (PUD) experience stomach pains in the epigastric area (area above your umbilicus) starting at night till early morning (when the acid secretions peak) causing insomnia, relieved by food intake. these patients are prohibited to drink coffee, softdrinks, orange juice, chocolates, milk, advised to stop smoking. treatment consists of proton pump inhibitors (omeprazole, pantoprazole), h2 blockers, antibiotics (if you're h. pylori positive), cytoprotective agents.

    i was diagnosed w/ gastritis (manifestations similar to PUD but more difficult to treat) since january 2003, and i have it until now.

    sorry but ndi ako nakaranas ng palpitations at panlabo ng paningin nung nagka-gastritis ako. actually, i've been near sighted for 10 yrs now and kung napapansin ko na lumalabo ang paningin ko (at kasamang sakit ng ulo), i'd go to an optical shop to check my vision.

    ndi kaya hyperthyroid at may visual disturbances (near-sighted) ka since u said na may palpitations ka pa rin?
    ipinagbawal nga niya sa akin ang mga nasabi mo.

    normal naman ang T3, T4, at TSH ko sa blood test.

    kahapon (monday) nagising ako ng masakit ang both temples ko. sabi ng mama ko baka nga daw sa mata ko ito at medyo malabo nga ang paningin ko. patignan ko daw mata ko. dati kasi may astigmatism ako at gumagamit ako ng contact lens o kaya salamin sa mata to correct that pero katagalan kinatamaran ko na. sa palagay mo ba sa mata ko ito??

    iyong palpitations ko nawawala na ngayon kapag kumakain ako every hour basta i make sure na laging may laman ang tiyan ko maski konti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikay_gurl
    Eto lang tips ko sayo sis although di ako DR. pero it will help you i guess: Combination of hyperacidity and indigestion ang nararamdaman mo. YUng palpitation, due to too much gas na nasa tummy mo, kase siguro sa mga nakakain mong food. Iwasan mo lang mga sweets, milk and sobrang fruits , veggies na mahirap tunawin kase acidic ka. Try mo na kumain ng konti lang, and then, lagi ka drink ng warm water pag nakakaramdam ka ng palpitation.Pag nag fart ka, yun na yun gas na nagpapasakit ng tummy mo at cause ng palpitation. Avoid sodas muna or cold water, for a week, para malaman mo result kung gas pain and indigestion nga lang yan. Tell me if it's effective okay?
    ah. hyperacidity with indigestion!

    sige gagawin ko advice mo.

    ang hirap pala ang daming bawal chocolates, milk, at orange juice indi pdi.

    ano kaya pwede kong inumin sa breakfast? warm water lang??

    thanks sa reply a.

  8. #8
    why don't you seek a second opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugstop1
    why don't you seek a second opinion?
    last thursday 3/31/05, nagpasama ako sa ER sa mama ko malapit sa amin kasi nahirapan talaga ako sa palpitations ko. nilagyan lang ako ng oxygent at injection ng plasil para daw hindi ako masuka pero pareho pan din ang gamot na binigay sa akin, which is pantoloc (pantoprazole) tapos pinauwi din ako.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotmamanumber8
    ipinagbawal nga niya sa akin ang mga nasabi mo.

    normal naman ang T3, T4, at TSH ko sa blood test.

    kahapon (monday) nagising ako ng masakit ang both temples ko. sabi ng mama ko baka nga daw sa mata ko ito at medyo malabo nga ang paningin ko. patignan ko daw mata ko. dati kasi may astigmatism ako at gumagamit ako ng contact lens o kaya salamin sa mata to correct that pero katagalan kinatamaran ko na. sa palagay mo ba sa mata ko ito??

    iyong palpitations ko nawawala na ngayon kapag kumakain ako every hour basta i make sure na laging may laman ang tiyan ko maski konti.
    well (since i bet you go to malls very often), i suggest you have your vision checked at any optical shop. baka nga tumaas *** grado ng mata mo.

    one treatment approach on peptic ulcer disease is to have frequent meals kahit na pa-konti konti lang. what i do is every two to three hours, basta ndi ako malilipasan ng gutom.

    don't worry, PUD is curable. and nothing to worry about the side effect of pantoprazole (coz they are generally safe).

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by regptrp_md2b
    well (since i bet you go to malls very often), i suggest you have your vision checked at any optical shop. baka nga tumaas *** grado ng mata mo.

    one treatment approach on peptic ulcer disease is to have frequent meals kahit na pa-konti konti lang. what i do is every two to three hours, basta ndi ako malilipasan ng gutom.

    don't worry, PUD is curable. and nothing to worry about the side effect of pantoprazole (coz they are generally safe).

    ganoon nga ang ginagawa ko as in every hour or every two hours kumakain ako kung hindi kanin, sandwich, o kaya saging. lagi akong may dalang pagkain at tubig ngayon kahit saan ako magpunta kasi nga gusto kong gumaling na at hindi ko gusto iyong nararamdaman ko na parang may nakadagan sa dibdib ko.

    nag aalala lang ako kasi nagsimula ito nung march 17 halos mag one month na sa april 17 at naka apat na bote na din ako ng contylan (antacid, antiflatulent na sa clinic lang ng doktor nabibili) eh ganoon pa din nararamdaman ko. lumipat na nga ako sa maalox eh kasi napapagod na ako na tuwing mauubos ang contylan ko kailangan ko pa pumunta sa clinic niya. 3rd day ko na ngayon sa maalox.

    bakit ganoon nararamdaman ko pa din na sumasakit ang tiyan ko at sumusumpong iyong parang may chest heaviness ako??

  12. #12
    tanong ko lang a.

    nalilito na kasi ako eh.

    may ulcer ako d ba plus hyperacidity.

    iyong hyperacidity ko ba ang dahilan kaya minsan may palpitations ako?

    ang peptic ulcer disease ba pareho ng duodenal ulcer pain??

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotmamanumber8
    ganoon nga ang ginagawa ko as in every hour or every two hours kumakain ako kung hindi kanin, sandwich, o kaya saging. lagi akong may dalang pagkain at tubig ngayon kahit saan ako magpunta kasi nga gusto kong gumaling na at hindi ko gusto iyong nararamdaman ko na parang may nakadagan sa dibdib ko.

    nag aalala lang ako kasi nagsimula ito nung march 17 halos mag one month na sa april 17 at naka apat na bote na din ako ng contylan (antacid, antiflatulent na sa clinic lang ng doktor nabibili) eh ganoon pa din nararamdaman ko. lumipat na nga ako sa maalox eh kasi napapagod na ako na tuwing mauubos ang contylan ko kailangan ko pa pumunta sa clinic niya. 3rd day ko na ngayon sa maalox.

    bakit ganoon nararamdaman ko pa din na sumasakit ang tiyan ko at sumusumpong iyong parang may chest heaviness ako??
    well, antacids are not generally the prime treatment (pharmacologic) regimen for diagnosed PUD. kaya ndi na-re-relieve *** symptoms mo coz u need stronger meds (acid suppressants). maybe you should seek a gastroenterologist who will most likely have u undergo endoscopy then prescribe you with proton pump inhibitor or a cytoprotective agent or a H2 receptor inhibitor.

    don't lie down immediately after meals.. lie down 1-2 hours after.. maybe what you're experiencing is gastroesophageal reflux disease..

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotmamanumber8
    tanong ko lang a.

    nalilito na kasi ako eh.

    may ulcer ako d ba plus hyperacidity.

    iyong hyperacidity ko ba ang dahilan kaya minsan may palpitations ako?

    ang peptic ulcer disease ba pareho ng duodenal ulcer pain??
    you have hyperacidity but regarding ulcer - i'm not sure about that. kelangan magpa-endoscopy ka para malaman kung mayroon nga coz not all people who are hyperacidic have ulcer.

    duodenal ulcer pain is under the bracket of peptic ulcer disease. meron pang isa which is gastric ulcer pain. to differentiate between the two, you have to know the effect of food intake on the pain. if pain is relieved after food intake, that's most likely to be duodenal; otherwise, it's gastric. gets?

    like i said earlier, palpitations is a symptom of organic heart problem or over-active thyroid. meron ba kayong history ng heart problems sa family? ano ba talaga ang nararamdaman mo? palpitations or chest heaviness or both? chest heaviness could be attributed to your hyperacidicity or acid reflux to your esophagus.

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    nung first consultation ko basta ang sabi ng dok may kabag ako kaya ako may palpitations at nalilipasan ako ng gutom. wala daw sa oras ang pagkain ko tapos binigyan niya ako ng list ng food na bawal sa akin kasi nga nag positive ako sa h.pylori.

    binigyan niya ako ng reseta to treat h.pylori at two weeks kong ininom iyon (amoxil + klaricid).

    kapag gutom ako mahapdi at masakit ang tiyan ko. sabi niya kapag naramdaman ko ang palpitations kumain ako.

    dati meron akong goiter kaya kinuhanan din ako ng blood test sa T3, T4, TSH lahat naman normal.

    meron akong family history ng heart disease. ang papa ko may atrial fibrillation.

    ngayon kasi nga every hour kumakain na ako bihira ko na maramdaman iyong palpitations. iyong chest heaviness minsan na din kapag nararamdaman ko iyon nawawala kapag huminga ako ng malalim o uminom ng tubig.

    natatakot naman ako sa sinabi mo na GERD.

    sa ngayon kasi sinusubukan ko na hindi na uminom ng antacid ayoko kasing sanayin ang katawan ko sa gamot ang tanging iniinom ko na lang ay ang pantoloc ko.

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    siyanga pala, hindi rin ako humihiga after meal. never kong ginawa iyon.

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    question: how did ur doc know that you're h. pylori positive in the 1st place, kung ndi sya nag-conduct ng endoscopy sa 'yo?

    are you still taking your anti-thyroid drugs? from what i've learned, they're taken for life (well i might be mistaken for this).

    bakit ka matatakot sa GERD? it's curable, medically and behaviorally speaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regptrp_md2b
    question: how did ur doc know that you're h. pylori positive in the 1st place, kung ndi sya nag-conduct ng endoscopy sa 'yo?

    are you still taking your anti-thyroid drugs? from what i've learned, they're taken for life (well i might be mistaken for this).

    bakit ka matatakot sa GERD? it's curable, medically and behaviorally speaking.
    kinuhanan ako ng blood test kaya nalaman na may h.pylori ako, normal electrolytes, normal din ang T3, T4, at TSH.

    eltroxin ang gamot ko for the goiter. matagal ko ng hindi iniinom at sabi nga ng dok okay naman ang T3, T4, at TSH ko.

    takot ako sa GERD kasi feeling ko humihina na makina ko sa katawan. pero wala naman akong nararamdaman na reflux eh. kaya inisip ko hindi naman siguro GERD.

    ang pinaka concern ko eh iyon ngang kapag walang laman ang tiyan ko talagang mahapdi at mainit sa loob kaya kumakain ako agad at sabi ko nga every 2 hours eh talagang kumakain na ako ngayon. paminsan-minsan ko na lang ma-experience iyon.

    hanggang kailan ko ba iinumin ang pantoloc ko? sa april 20 pa kasi check up ko simula ng march 17 ko pa iniinom ang pantoloc eh. ang tinigil ko na inumin ay ang antacid ko.

    salamat ha sa walang sawang pagsagot sa mga tanong ko

  19. #19
    kailan ba ako makakain ng chocolates? makakainom ng juice at milk? kapag ba pinatigil na pantoloc ko?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotmamanumber8
    hanggang kailan ko ba iinumin ang pantoloc ko? sa april 20 pa kasi check up ko simula ng march 17 ko pa iniinom ang pantoloc eh. ang tinigil ko na inumin ay ang antacid ko.

    salamat ha sa walang sawang pagsagot sa mga tanong ko
    your doc will be the one who'll say kung itutuloy mo pa *** pag-inom or ndi na. most of the time, they don't follow what's written in textbooks. just be complaint with your doc's appointment & instructions.

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