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hello again guys, ang topic po dito ay annulment at hindi condom, gawa na lang po kayo ng ibang thread kung gusto niyo baguhin ang topic.... tnx....
bump bump!! more infos please..
sa mga nagfile ng annulment, how much did it cost you? and anyone here who could refer a good lawyer to me?
^ ako,...nagastos ko ata eh around 100k na,...professional fee pa lang,..70k na,then me psychological test pa worth 20k,..tas kada appear sa korte is worth 5k,matuloy o hindi ang hearing,...nagbakasyon ako para dun lang,...pero oks lang dahil sabi ng sister ko lalabas na raw ang desisyon anytime this week,pero meron pa ring success fee na tinatawag,...hanep...
refer ko sayo ang MEDRANO LAW OFFICE,...si Atty. Orly Medrano ang naghandle,...
hello war admiral:
pwede ko ba malaman kung saan ang location ng Medrano Law Office? pwede ko rin bang makuha ang contact number ng Law Office na ito?... tnx
hope to hear from you again
Hi, ijustwanttoknow,...
office nila ay sa: Suite 801, Fedman Bldg.
199 Salcedo St., Makati City
Tel. (02) 8178978
hanapin mo si Atty.Orly Medrano,...ilokano sya,...mabait naman saka madaling kausapin...
good luck...
Annulment is a very lengthy process and more so if there are kids involve. The Church must provide all necessary guidance and counselling to those who are going to get married and maybe this will reduce the number of those who marry for convenience.
BUMP BUMP!!
war admiral:
sorry at ngayon ko lang nabasa ang reply mo.. anyways maraming salamat sa info mo and we'll consider him after we talk. again thanks!
btw, kamusta yun resulta pala sayo? and how much yun "success fee". all in all magkano ka inabot at gano katagal?
Assume you mean the RC church. These people have no experience of marriage which is probably why their advice are the cause of so many marriage breakups.Originally Posted by ArnoldZ
It's like asking a carpenter to give a plumber advice on plumbing
And because a doctor has experienced all kinds of sickness, diseases and physical and mental disorders, he can give advice to sick patients, right?
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i just want some more informations about the annulment in the philippines. i have been separated for almost 4 years, and i havent seen my ex-husband for more than 3years now.
i have read an article in the New Family Code about the grounds of annulment. and i found out that you can file a "presumptive death" to your ex-husband if you havent seen him for 2 to 4years time. would there be a posibility that i can apply as my ground for filing an annulment?
hoping a reply to people who can give me more information on some other possible grounds in filing a divorce.
God Speed!!!
Let me try to see how I could apply what I've learned in Persons and Family Relations for your case
first, there's no divorce in the philippines. only legal separation and annulment. legal separation applies to couples who want to separate with the offended party and the guilty party both being barred from marrying again. conjugal property is also divided equally between the two.
anullment may stem from being void or voidable. void is when the marriage has been void from the very start. but i'd rather not deal or expound on that...medyo tinatamad akong buksan ang Family Code book ko eh..
regarding presumption of death, in your case, yes it may be applied. but it doesn't mean to say that you are absolutely free from impediments. should your husband show up even after five or six years prior to your intention of filing an annulment, your petition will surely not apply. it will be your burden to prove that you have exhausted all means in determining where your husband is, if he's still alive, etc. Good luck!
President Macapagal-Arroyo said last year that she intends to bring the rate down to 1.9 percent but did not explain how this would be done.
am i the only one who finds this statement horrifying? what is she gonna do? kill babies? send old people to the moon?
No, she has to eradicate the RC Church......... but on a more realistic note she has to show examples of other countries where contraceptives (pill or condoms) are used properly.
When a couple has say 5 kids and they know they cannot support them properly and did not take precautions because of their belief in the RC Church teachings, they are not having children because they want to but because of their own shortcomings.
Let's say that one couple today has 5 small children (ages 1 year to 7 years). and let's say when they are old enough they have 5 children each. We can therefore assume by the year 2025 this couple will have produced 30 offspring, by 2050 this would have risen to 155, by 2075 it would be 870 and by 2100 it would rise to 4595 so in less than 100 years one couple have produced that many offspring. if we assume that only 5% of the present population did this (8m couples) then how can any country sustain this.even accounting for deaths.
It's no use burying your head in the sand...something drastically has to be done. Copntraceptives must be given free but more important people must be educated.
In 1950 the population of the UK was around 50m...probably equal to the Philippines. The UK population today is around 58m with the Philippines at 80m...the landmass is of similar size.
Help!!! I'm really desperate.
i guess this is a little off-topic, but this is my last resort na. can someone please help? i have an assignment kasi. it is to find a copy of a pre-trial order for an annulment case. my mom was supposed to give me a copy, but she forgot! just great. thanks, ma. anyway, is somebody kind enough to "lend" me a copy? i'm desperate.i know it's kinda personal. you can edit the names for privacy. please, please, please. and the worst news is, i need it by 4am tomorrow.
you can send me a privy or e-mail.
thank you.
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Hi!
It's not true. My parents filed for an annulment after 20 years of marriage and it was granted. You just have to prove that one party (or both) cannot fulfill the duties of being married. Walang time-frame yun, you just have to prove psychological incapacity beyond reasonable doubt.
And the difference, between divorce and annulment ... yun nga, sa divorce the marriage is terminated whereas sa annulment, the marriage is considered void. Your civil status is also different. Sa divorce (obviously) DIVORCED na status mo, pero kung annuled, SINGLE ka ulit! And you're free to remarry SANS the sustento (or alimony).
To the thread-starter, suggest you talk to a lawyer and discuss your options. Although posting in this forum would give you some information, it can't be validated. A lawyer would know what to do. Though I don't think you should file for annulment (kasi parang your case doesn't fall in this category). I think it's something about declaring him dead ... me not sure. Get legal advice na lang.
Legal advice may be costly pero at least sure ka sa moves na gagawin mo.
Peace!
This discussion wouldn't even be relevant if divorce was allowed in the Philippines. Not sure if it's true but I believe Malta is the only other country in the world which doesn't allow divorce. Malta being a Catholic country with a small population is one of the world's most densely populated countries.
Ireland did not allow divorce until recently but to overcome the RC opposition they allowed a democratic referendum. Although the turnout was low the YES vote won be it by only a small margin.
Surely this is the way to go...instead of the church dictating to the people, the people should decide on something which effects many of their own lives and that of their children.
marriage is such a big mess! to actually expect that you will still have passionate feelings for your partner 20..40 years into the future is such wishful thinking.
i highly recommend Atty. Rowena Daroy-Morales of the UP College of Law. She's the Office of Legal Aid director in UP and is the lawyer of some of the high-profile annullment cases in the country. she's really good. she's my prof in persons.
ijustwantoknow:
I think you have to make up your mind:
I don’t see any point in you having to apply for annulment of your marriage on the basis of “presumptive death”. If you want your marriage annulled, you have to rely on the separate grounds for annulment provided by law and presumptive death is not one of them. Conversely, should you be successful in asking the court to declare your husband as presumptively dead, there is no need to annul your marriage because by then you will get the natural effect of such declaration: that your marriage was dissolved by the death of one of the parties. You will then be considered a widow. Just like any widow, you will be free to marry again. This should explain why presumptive death is not one of the grounds for annulment.
But please note carefully that you will only be considered a widow. You are not really a widow but you are placed under legal contemplation as similar to a widow. One of those things the law calls legal fiction. This is because the death of your husband is only a presumption made by law. That’s why its called presumptive death which means that the presumption can be thrown overboard should facts turn up later that he is still ACTUALLY alive and kicking. You will be allowed to marry subject to the condition of the “waiting period” provided by law. The “waiting period” refers to the period at which the court will wait for the appearance of facts that might prove contrary to the presumption, such as a news that your husband was seen somewhere. I still have to recall the length of the period (think its seven years). If after the “waiting period”, your husband does not appear for good, he will be declared as dead for good and only then can you remarry.
From the facts that you have mentioned, I could initially see that it will be hard for you to have him declared by the courts as presumptively dead. Death cuts off certain rights and privileges of a person (e.g., his name will be stricken off the voters’ list). It also has certain adverse effects on his person and interest (his property, if he has any, will be divided by his heirs, testate or intestate). Because of these effects, the courts lean on the contrary principle that death can not be presumed. It must be shown by conventional means (death certificate, doctor’s certificate, coroner’s report, the actual presence of a corpse, etc.). The courts therefore observe strict and stringent requirements in granting petitions for presumptive death. Among the cases on which the SC had ruled on the issue, it holds that it is not enough that the person disappeared without a trace. The disappearance must be attended by circumstances that could convince the court to no other conclusion but to presume death. A single clue that could give rise to doubt that he died dooms the presumption. In one case, one of the circumstances relied by the court for granting the presumption of death was that the husband was aboard a ship caught in a storm and sunk and all exhaustive efforts to find or recover him was of such futility as to lead to no other conclusion but that he perished with the ship. It is not enough to say, “baka kinain na ng pating”. Moreover, the court granted the petition only after ten years when it was convinced that the husband’s failure to surface or come back after such a long period was an indication that he was no longer among the living.
These contemplation of the law is not square with your situation because you still heard some news that he still walks on this earth though suffering from a disease. The disease, even if you will mention it in your petition, is not convincing because it is not a fatal one and the mere mention of it gives way to the contrary presumption that he is still alive. But even then, again based from the facts you mentioned, your husband did not disappear. He simply walked away from your marriage which is an act of abandonment, a ground for legal separation but not annulment.
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