[MERGED] How do you treat mouth sores ( SINGAW ) ?

[Jolas]

Bactidol lang ang katapat n'yan.......

[Bejean]

dok ira ... suggestion ko yung karayom eheheh
=P

[nic]

i found the BEST medicine for singaw!!! it's called "Zilactin-B" -- i call it the "singaw band-aid" cause it literally covers it with a thin film for up to 4-6 hours and at the same time heals it! -- THE BEST!!! -- the problem is i'm not sure if you can get it here (try nalang) -- but my dentist gave me a similar medicine called "Solcoseryl" dental adhesive paste -- this sounds gross: it's made of Deproteinized Calf Blood Extract and Polidocanol -- whatever that is -- but like Zilactin-B, it works wonders :-) -- does the same thing as Zilactin-B and the good news is you can get it in Mercury :-)

[nic]

AMOSAN is very good too :-)

[kmunster]

nothing like good old salt to "cure" singaw
gotta love that pain that comes after u put piles of rock salt

[NEWYORKER363]

Hi, Dr. Ira,

I'm impressed with your medical knowhow. What's your specialty?

NewYorker363
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[Ira]

Where is your singaw located? On the gums, roof of the mouth, or the tongue? There are two kinds of singaw: Canker sores, which are found in soft tissues of the mouth like the tongue and the inside of the cheek, and fever blisters, found on the gums and the roof of the mouth.

I'm currently in specialty training in a certain surgical field. So while I haven't finished yet, for all intents and purposes, I'm still a general practitioner.

[Ira]

NewYorker363: Umm...not interested in females, being one myself, but thanks anyway for the kind thought. As for going there... I like going to the US only on vacation basis. I am already done with school, am a certified, card-carrying doctor for several years already, and in postgrad training, although I might consider going there to subspecialize in neurosurgical oncology.

Regarding your singaws...those sound like what is in layman's term is called cold sores, or fever blisters. Fever blisters result from a herpes simplex virus which becomes active. This virus is latent in afflicted people, but can be activated by conditions such as stress, fever, vit. B deficiency, trauma, hormonal changes, and exposure to sunlight. One study shows that recurrent sores may be due to a genetic predispostion. When lesions reappear, they tend to form in the same location, and may be heralded with itching, like yours does.

Treatments for recurrent attacks include topical and/or oral Acyclovir, an antiviral drug, which works best when taken as soon as you feel burning, or tingling in the area. However, Acyclovir only shortens the outbreaks - it does not prevent new outbreaks from occurring unless its oral form is taken continuously (50% success rate on those who took 4 pills/day for 4 months). It's as expensive as hell, and longterm side effects are unknown. Wash the area twice a day with mild soap like Dove. I checked some medical websites, and dermatologists recommend using L-Lysine 500 mg, an amino acid, found in the vitamin section at the drugstore. As soon as you feel burning or tingling in the area, take 3-4 tablets a day for the first 2 days and then 2 tablets a day until the blisters dry up. Take the tablets after meals. Also apply Herpecin-L to the blister every half hour for the first few days. This treatment can reduce healing time. Taking one tablet daily of L-Lysine has been known to prevent fever blisters in some people. Another product which they recommend is Tend Skin (you can check it out at skinsite.com), which will at least improve the appearance. Bad news about fever blisters, though: While frequency of attacks lessen after 35 years old, it is recurrent, and there is at present no known accepted treatment for it to disappear completely. The ones I mentioned are just symptomatic treatments and observed effects with not enough studies yet to back them up.

Hope this helps.



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[NEWYORKER363]

Dr. Ira,

Neither in those places you mentioned.
I'm really at a loss dito, almost every month, lumilitaw. Para tulog akong may "period"!

Thanks for your time.


NewYorker363
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[mylene]

ira..... all this time i thought singaw was a fungal infection? kasi i treat my singaw with nystatin and within 36 hours wala na...

[Ira]

Singaw comes in different forms, and may be caused by viral or bacterial organisms, nutritional deficiencies, or immune responses. NY363's is recurrent, and is most probably caused by a viral infection. Singaw is not caused by fungal infection, though. I suspect that your nystatin solution has a corticosteroid ingredient in it, that's why your singaw heals fast.

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[NEWYORKER363]

Ira,

Thanks again. Tumatanggap ka ba ng manok o vegetables? Dami ko ng utang! Yong Platinum ko naman (yabang, ha!) maxed out na. It's Christmas time in the city, you know?


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[Ira]

There are two kinds of herpes simplex viri, from the herpesvirus family: Herpes Simplex Virus Type I, which is what I think you have, and Herpes Simplex Virus Type II, the genital herpes you're associating it with. These two are different organisms, although they're related. Usually, type I is caught during childhood years, and the primary infection is inapparent. The reason why it appears on the corners of your mouth is because the virus resides and stays latent on the 5th cranial nerve, which supplies the mouth area. The second type is caught via sexual contact...unless, of course, you've had oral-genital sex with someone who has the 2nd type; the 2nd type of virus can also cause oral sores, but it's a bit rarer. I'm more inclined to think you have the first type.

Thanks for the compliments, but really, while there are some bad apples in the PEx barrel, a lot of posters who I've met are really decent, intelligent people, so I don't think I'm too good for PEx.

Merry Christmas.

[NEWYORKER363]

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My esteemed Dr. Ira

Of all the THREE TYPES OF IRAs I know, undoubtedly, YOU are the best.

The IRAs of Ireland as we current-event-nerds know are bad. My IRAs (Investment Retirement Accounts) earn, when I'm overly lucky in my stocks prognostications, at best 17%, like the last 3 years or so. At that rate my retirement booty, considering inflation, among other negative factors, might last only about 50 years. Kawawa naman ang Secretary ko na 24 years lang.

You are the 3rd type of IRA. The best among the three, to repeat. No elucidation, explanation necessary. It's all over the PEX board, I mean, the "kitang-kitang ebidensya".

Back to business, after the commercial break.

These herpes viri surprise me really. They even have types. And based on your clear discourse, I can glean, crystally, that I got it from the THIRD TYPE.

No 3rd type from your classif, yeah. But what I mean by the THIRD TYPE is my Sexretary. I must have gotten that particular virus from her. We had done "IT" a coupla times, between repeating unheard dictation and erasing spelling errors. In retrospect, it now appears that she was the "carrier".

Why did I say that? Listen, please.

When I hired her, she was not that good in secretarial skills. Poor grammar, slow typing, inadequate shorthand. (Although her right hand was fast, that I was sure!). She's so bad that every draft of corres she did needed three revisions. No wordprocessors then, so she always needed at least three typings.

That's where she got the office sobriquet: THIRD TYPE.

And that's where I obviously got it!

I gotta go. I gotta delete this now-very-experienced Sexcretary of mine.

Thank you once again, Dr. Ira.


NewYorker363
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[NEWYORKER363]

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Dr. Ira, the best

BTW, that thing about you being "too big" for PEX "britches" was not a knock on the Boarders or the PEX itself. Far from it.

What I meant was when we have such a good thing -- in the medical field that would be those vaccines, sera and penicillins that have proved too good for mankind -- it would redound to the greatest good of the greatest number to profit from it. To expand the application. The use.

Like your medical expertise. Getz?

Scalpel*, please.


NEWYORKER363

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*Actually in my line, it would be: "Nail file, please! LOL.
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[Ira]

By oral-genital I meant that you have performed oral sex on her, not the other way around. If you have also had the normal genital-genital sex, then you would have also experienced symptoms on your private parts. If you've had both kinds of sex and you only have cold sores, it's probably just herpes simplex I. Anyway, type I is very very common, compared to type II. So no need to blame the secretary.

Thanks again for the compliment. Just doing my job.

[NEWYORKER363]

Dr. Ira,

Nothing to it. You earn it.

Type I which I obviously have is "common," you said. Can we add: "not fatal"?

Yes?

Whew! Nakahinga ako ng maluwag.

And no stat will be added to the NY unemployment chart. My Sexcretary keeps her job. Excluding the blow. (Just kidding, pipols. Baka may Pare/Madre dyan.)


BTW, Doc, what you said above piques my curiosity and interest.

Thanks for the compliments, but really, while there are some bad apples in the PEx barrel, a lot of posters who I've met are really decent, intelligent people, so I don't think I'm too good for PEx. (emphasis supplied)

In which category would you place me... the bad, the good, the ugly? (Hey, Clint...! Make my day!)

Merry Christmas to you, too. And the greater part of the lit Xmas tree I placed all around the PEX, goes to you, IRA, my fave doc. Wish you were in my HMO's list. (sipsip ba?).


NewYorker363
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[Ira]

Oh no, not fatal at all! HSV-I is more of an annoyance, but it will not kill you. As you don't have symptoms of genital herpes, as you previously said, then you can breathe easy.

Hmm..I guess I'd put you in the good apple, since there are very very few people here I consider to be bad apples. Anyway, merry christmas!

[NEWYORKER363]

WagKaNgMakulit,

Wrong. Palpak, eh.

Kasi, in love, as in tango (not necessarily in Paris with Marlon Brando) it takes two to. Totoo 'to!

E, nag-iisa 'ko. Pano 'to?

No, hindi ako PANOT! I said: "Paano ito?"


NewYorker363
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[NEWYORKER363]

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Ah, siguro natauhan si Doctora.

Kung doctor din siguro ako, baka pa.

Kaso mo, kundoktor lang ako ng bus dito.

Tsaklap!


NewYorker363