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  1. #61
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ lancealmekian's Avatar
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    courting women is NEVER the way to go

    Daming beses ko na rin na-basted before I learned the ugly truth about relationships (nag-aral ako ng women psychology, social, relationship and seduction dynamics).

    Hindi kailangan ng ligawan.

    Yes you read it right.

    When a man decides to court a woman, he has just decided to put himself in a situation where he has no power.

    When he decides to tell the woman that he wants to court her, he loses even more power than he thinks (sure sarap ng feeling na may nililigawan ka, aminin natin kahit mga lalake tayo kinikilig din tayo sa mga ganyan).

    When the woman finally decides she would let him court her, the man has no more power.

    Pag dumating yung time na nabasted sya, dun nya na lang maiiisip na naging sobrang engot nya (so much for what?).

    Most of the time, pag may magsyota na naging magsyota dahil nanligaw yung lalake, naging sila hindi dahil sa panliligwa nung lalake kungdi dahil GUSTO na nung babae yung lalake bago pa nanligaw yung lalake (the woman may deny it of course, and in her conscious mind she's probably right, but I'm talking subconscious fancying/liking here).

    Ang isang babae, kailangan ng lalake na maipapakita na sya ay isang tunay na lalake, as in may ganitong qualities:

    1. malakas, may control sa sariling buhay (as in financially stable enough to be able to live comfortably);
    2. matalino (or witty man lang sana, kahit bobo sa academics, this explains kung bakit may mga super bobong lalake sa school pero matinik sa chics);
    3. maginoo pero medyo bastos (as in magaling sa push pull, tipong kunwari gentleman pero mahalay naman din, tinatago lang yung pagkamahalay);
    4. may sense of humor (please po sa mga lalakeng gustong magaral ng pag-stand up comedian para makapagpatawa ng babae, di nyo kailangan yun; tatawa ang isang tao PAG GUSTO NYA; so if you are able to make someone WANT TO LAUGH, kahit hindi nakakatawa sinabi mo tatawa yun);
    5. at higit sa lahat, kaya mag-alaga ng babae (as in when it comes to situations where the woman is powerless, you can be there for her and somehow be able to give her power);

    How many times did you see the word POWER appear here? Dami di ba? It is all about power.

    Women want men with power. Men lose power when they court women. Therefore, women don't want it when they are courted (mga babae dyan na medyo may angal, ok lang magreply na wala akong karapatang sabihing ayaw nyo magpaligaw, I know a lot of women don't agree with the way I see the courtship deal as I have talked to a lot of women about this; but I know one very important thing: You women don't know what you really want).

    My advice: Study stuff about how women tick (and not just a single woman, dapat generic ang technique ng panliligaw; I don't agree with the some of the things shown in the movie "Hitch," so please don't take that movie seriously).

    I am open for questions about this. PM nyo lang ako and no one will know what we'll be talking about. I will help anyone who needs it. PM lang (walang bayad bros gusto ko lang matulungan ang mga na-basted rin na tulad ko noong mga panahong may pagka-engot pa ko sa mga babae).

    Tata for now.

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    Losing power.

    Quote Originally Posted by lancealmekian View Post
    Men lose power when they court women.
    Complete BS. How many women have you had a long-term relationship with again?

    -Just_JT
    Marriage.is.a.life-long.courtship.

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    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ lancealmekian's Avatar
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    That is something that I do not need to answer. Why do you think it is BS? You post something without backing it up. The concepts I just introduced, on the other hand, are products of studies conducted by female psychologists from all over the world. Do you want proof?

    Oh and BTW I am a married man. When you said marriage is a life long courtship, the courtship you refered to is different from the normal "ligawan" setting a man gets involved in when he wants to court a woman he doesn't know (as compared to a woman you already have had intimate physical and emotional connections with).

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    Complete BS. How many women have you had a long-term relationship with again?

    -Just_JT
    Marriage.is.a.life-long.courtship.
    nagbibigay ata si lancealmekian ng tips how to get the girl be interested in you.. para tumaas ang chance rate na hinde mabusted.

    a good start , its up to him parin if he would stay/maintain it as long term relationship or just play.

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    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ lancealmekian's Avatar
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    In fairness to women, I do not try to help men whom I think will never be serious in relationships. The things I put above are in fact just that, tips; A man who knows stuff I am talking about will agree with everything I posted up there, those who are otherwise would probably resort to flaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancealmekian View Post
    Daming beses ko na rin na-basted before I learned the ugly truth about relationships (nag-aral ako ng women psychology, social, relationship and seduction dynamics).

    Hindi kailangan ng ligawan.

    Yes you read it right.

    When a man decides to court a woman, he has just decided to put himself in a situation where he has no power.

    When he decides to tell the woman that he wants to court her, he loses even more power than he thinks (sure sarap ng feeling na may nililigawan ka, aminin natin kahit mga lalake tayo kinikilig din tayo sa mga ganyan).

    When the woman finally decides she would let him court her, the man has no more power.

    Pag dumating yung time na nabasted sya, dun nya na lang maiiisip na naging sobrang engot nya (so much for what?).

    Most of the time, pag may magsyota na naging magsyota dahil nanligaw yung lalake, naging sila hindi dahil sa panliligwa nung lalake kungdi dahil GUSTO na nung babae yung lalake bago pa nanligaw yung lalake (the woman may deny it of course, and in her conscious mind she's probably right, but I'm talking subconscious fancying/liking here).

    Ang isang babae, kailangan ng lalake na maipapakita na sya ay isang tunay na lalake, as in may ganitong qualities:

    1. malakas, may control sa sariling buhay (as in financially stable enough to be able to live comfortably);
    2. matalino (or witty man lang sana, kahit bobo sa academics, this explains kung bakit may mga super bobong lalake sa school pero matinik sa chics);
    3. maginoo pero medyo bastos (as in magaling sa push pull, tipong kunwari gentleman pero mahalay naman din, tinatago lang yung pagkamahalay);
    4. may sense of humor (please po sa mga lalakeng gustong magaral ng pag-stand up comedian para makapagpatawa ng babae, di nyo kailangan yun; tatawa ang isang tao PAG GUSTO NYA; so if you are able to make someone WANT TO LAUGH, kahit hindi nakakatawa sinabi mo tatawa yun);
    5. at higit sa lahat, kaya mag-alaga ng babae (as in when it comes to situations where the woman is powerless, you can be there for her and somehow be able to give her power);

    How many times did you see the word POWER appear here? Dami di ba? It is all about power.

    Women want men with power. Men lose power when they court women. Therefore, women don't want it when they are courted (mga babae dyan na medyo may angal, ok lang magreply na wala akong karapatang sabihing ayaw nyo magpaligaw, I know a lot of women don't agree with the way I see the courtship deal as I have talked to a lot of women about this; but I know one very important thing: You women don't know what you really want).

    My advice: Study stuff about how women tick (and not just a single woman, dapat generic ang technique ng panliligaw; I don't agree with the some of the things shown in the movie "Hitch," so please don't take that movie seriously).

    I am open for questions about this. PM nyo lang ako and no one will know what we'll be talking about. I will help anyone who needs it. PM lang (walang bayad bros gusto ko lang matulungan ang mga na-basted rin na tulad ko noong mga panahong may pagka-engot pa ko sa mga babae).

    Tata for now.
    I completely agree with this. Tested and proven (in my case). Na advice ko na rin yan dati sa ibang Pexers.

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    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ lancealmekian's Avatar
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    That is good to know. I have never read that particular advice of yours bro, but if I did, I would have agreed with it too.

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    so what does the man do? basta nalang sabihin sa babae na, "akin ka na." or "tayo na." ? edi kung ganyan, there'll be no such thing as courtship o basted na?

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    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ lancealmekian's Avatar
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    No. You play the seduction game (no other way to put it, please lang wag kayo mag-flame it's just a label I put on it).

    Ever heard of the term "two steps forward, one step back?"

    Ipapa-alam mo sa babae na gusto mo sya pero hindi ka head-over-heels in love sa kanya at hindi mo ikaw yung tipong gagawin lahat para sa kanya, kasi in-demand ka rin naman dahil may mga ibang chicks din na nagkakagusto sa iyo. Asar-asarin mo, tapos sorpresahin mo bigyan mo ng kung anong may pagka-walang kwentang bagay na tingin nya e hindi mo maiisip ibigay, tapos pag feeling nya nanliligaw ka, sabihin mo di mo sya nililigawan.

    This is a quick routinary thing you can do, pero you still have to know women if you are to get one. I advise you surround yourself with women. Makipagkaibigan ka sa mga babae. Alamin mo mga bagay tungkol sa kanila. Matututo ka makipag-flirt. Matututo ka alamin ang mga bagay na gusto nila pinaguusapan. Wag kang boring. Saka wag ka papatapak. Ayaw ng mga babae ng mga push-over na lalake na kayang kaya nila pakainin ng jerbaks kung gugustuhin nila.

    Push-Pull. Yun ang sagot.

    Nga pala, mas ok saken kung PM kasi gusto ko makita kung gaano kaseryoso yung nagbabalak manligaw e. Kung may tanong kayo na medyo teknikal PM nyo ko ok? Wag dito. Baka may magalit.

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    para di mabasted...wag manligaw

    para di masaktan...wag umibig

    simpleng solusyon...walang saysay

    when you're a kid and you get bruised it hurts like hell, And you can only look back and laugh when you're older, wiser(hopefully) and realize that you've been making mountains out of molehills and that your dilemmas are just drama's.

    you'd also realize that love is beautiful and you don't have to cross oceans and climb mountains to win it. Because love is not a prize to win, it's not a price to pay.

    you'd also realize that it's not only love that feels good... there's also fun...and lust LOL and this the bottomline.

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    With the way you post, I think you're kind of bitter. Parang "been there, done that" lahat ng post mo e. May point ka, I agree with some things you say, pero when you put lust in the equation... you're wrong there.

    Lust is a driving force. It is a means, it is not, and will never be, the ends in itself. Part lang ng mature relationships ang sex, but really it's just that. Sex feels good, pero after you're done and all your body feels it has been sucked dry, what? Tapos na. Wala nang saya. Pag minalas ka pa, ma-STD o mabuntis ka pa (at wag nyo sabihing mag-cocondom kayo mga engot hindi masarap ang sex pag naka-condom). Besides, to me, sex without love is an empty experience.

    It doesn't end there. Sex in relationships can be looked at as something like a vehicle that one can use to get to the next level of it. Sa mga tao na sex ang kaligayahan, I have nothing against you; I was once like you, but I saw some of the more purposeful pursuits that I can spend my finite time on earth going after. It isn't all about sex.

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    uhh dude...you're way too serious...i was just trying to lighten it up...hence the lust thing which in no way fits the whole gist of my post #70

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancealmekian View Post
    No. You play the seduction game (no other way to put it, please lang wag kayo mag-flame it's just a label I put on it).

    Ever heard of the term "two steps forward, one step back?"

    Ipapa-alam mo sa babae na gusto mo sya pero hindi ka head-over-heels in love sa kanya at hindi mo ikaw yung tipong gagawin lahat para sa kanya, kasi in-demand ka rin naman dahil may mga ibang chicks din na nagkakagusto sa iyo. Asar-asarin mo, tapos sorpresahin mo bigyan mo ng kung anong may pagka-walang kwentang bagay na tingin nya e hindi mo maiisip ibigay, tapos pag feeling nya nanliligaw ka, sabihin mo di mo sya nililigawan.

    This is a quick routinary thing you can do, pero you still have to know women if you are to get one. I advise you surround yourself with women. Makipagkaibigan ka sa mga babae. Alamin mo mga bagay tungkol sa kanila. Matututo ka makipag-flirt. Matututo ka alamin ang mga bagay na gusto nila pinaguusapan. Wag kang boring. Saka wag ka papatapak. Ayaw ng mga babae ng mga push-over na lalake na kayang kaya nila pakainin ng jerbaks kung gugustuhin nila.

    Push-Pull. Yun ang sagot.

    Nga pala, mas ok saken kung PM kasi gusto ko makita kung gaano kaseryoso yung nagbabalak manligaw e. Kung may tanong kayo na medyo teknikal PM nyo ko ok? Wag dito. Baka may magalit.
    PUA ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdash View Post
    PUA ?
    I used to be one. I've grown into something else entirely. Walang kaluluwa mga PUA e. If you're one of them, please take no offense; I just think what they do is pointless.

    uhh dude...you're way too serious...i was just trying to lighten it up...hence the lust thing which in no way fits the whole gist of my post #70
    You, madam, are weird. Good thing I happen to like weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancealmekian View Post
    I used to be one. I've grown into something else entirely. Walang kaluluwa mga PUA e. If you're one of them, please take no offense; I just think what they do is pointless.
    not one of them too. i'm busy working. i don't have time for those.

    but i somehow understand how it works. just by googling it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdash View Post
    not one of them too. i'm busy working. i don't have time for those.

    but i somehow understand how it works. just by googling it.

    Last time I was active was in late 2007. They have a lair here called Manila Lair. I used to be a part of it. But I quit.

    Anyway, it's good you didn't turn into one. It is, as I said, pointless. Pero yung mga skills na matutunan mo if you choose to become one is invaluable. Kahit saang parte ng buhay pwede gamitin. Mapa-job interviews man o mag-oopen ka lang ng bank account o kakain sa fast food, you'll always be able to use stuff you learn. Psychological ang approach e.

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    haha ang galing ni TS. dun sa first gf ko,walang pormal na ligawan.sinabi ko feelings ko nung naramdaman kong inlab na inlab na sya. nabigla nga ako nung sinagot nya agad ako eh. tapos nung kami na,ligawan ko raw sya. haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by jed_allan View Post
    haha ang galing ni TS. dun sa first gf ko,walang pormal na ligawan.sinabi ko feelings ko nung naramdaman kong inlab na inlab na sya. nabigla nga ako nung sinagot nya agad ako eh. tapos nung kami na,ligawan ko raw sya. haha
    Classic example ng direct approach. Classic is always super.

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    madaling matanggap ang pagkabasted kung iisipin mo lang na hindi lahat ng gusto mo, para sa yo. na hindi ka talaga gusto nung babaeng gusto mo.mga gwapo nga at mayayaman,nababasted eh,ikaw pa.

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    ^tama, tama. ganyan yung iniisip ko e. haha..

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