Australian Visa & Immigration Issues

[Hornsby]

Originally posted by miss_mike
Hi Hornsby!
are you talking about the bond you posted as bond?
isn't this refundable?

anyone...
question: is the NAATI accrediation required?

after 30 months ko pa sya makukuha so hindi basta-basta makukuha in between months. interest is around 1% per annum. pero ok lang...

NAATI? d ako familiar probably some guys here are.

[kindred]

Originally posted by miss_mike
Hi Hornsby!
are you talking about the bond you posted as bond?
isn't this refundable?

anyone...
question: is the NAATI accrediation required?

hi miss_mike!

you only need the NAATI accreditation if you want to avail of the 5 bonus points for "fluency in one of australia's community languages (filipino?)". you can also obtain the 5 bonus points if you get a letter from your university stating that tagalog was the method of instruction used when you obtained your degree.

[Hornsby]

Originally posted by Hoku
girlfriend22: Of course! Pero siguradong nakaka-homesick talaga, lalo na sa simula. That's the time you'll really need your friends around you. Buti nga at dito pa lang nagkakilala na tayong lahat. I'm sure Hornsby would be a very gracious host, diba Hornsby?

hornsby: By "in the pipeline", do you mean your mom and sister are on their way? How soon then? Or do you mean their paperwork is already in? Good luck to them!

iyong papers ng sister ko nasa CPA Australia na. Between March and April, may result na. Tapos pass na namin application nya sa Adelaide. For my mom kapag napunta na iyong kuya sa US- hopefully before June, the balance of family will be shifted to me and my bro kaya makukuha na namin sya. Mayrun kasing ruling about parents na kailangan kung saang bansa naka-base iyong karamihan sa anak nya dapat duon sya.

Good host? Oo naman. Glad to be in service to Pinoys arriving here in Sydney. It's my way of repaying God for giving me the opportunity to be here

[miss_mike]

Hi Hornsby, kindred and Peachy81!
Thanks for the info! i guess 5 points isn't worth the $790 i need to shell out for NAATI.
isa pang hirit...
would anyone know how a "social professional" is defined? i saw this trade in the skills occupation list and i'm not sure if i fall under this since i've been a flight attendant and my course is ab social science (up).
i'm voting with my feet and i feel bad that i didn't lodge my application last '98, i could have taken advantage of the lax procedure then. to date, the process has become gruelling to the extent that my hubby needs to sub,it an IELTS result not only to DIMIA but to IEAust as well, for his CDR.

*shouting out to group*
is there any engineer in this thread who can advise us on his CDR?

have a g'day all!

[kindred]

Originally posted by miss_mike
Hi Hornsby, kindred and Peachy81!
Thanks for the info! i guess 5 points isn't worth the $790 i need to shell out for NAATI.
isa pang hirit...
would anyone know how a "social professional" is defined? i saw this trade in the skills occupation list and i'm not sure if i fall under this since i've been a flight attendant and my course is ab social science (up).
i'm voting with my feet and i feel bad that i didn't lodge my application last '98, i could have taken advantage of the lax procedure then. to date, the process has become gruelling to the extent that my hubby needs to sub,it an IELTS result not only to DIMIA but to IEAust as well, for his CDR.

*shouting out to group*
is there any engineer in this thread who can advise us on his CDR?

have a g'day all!

you're in luck miss_mike!!!

im an electrical engineer.

[miss_mike]

Originally posted by kindred
you're in luck miss_mike!!!

im an electrical engineer.

Hi kindred!

ang galing!

can you lend me some time (sorry pero i'll maximize my post, paabuso lang pls. advise me on the following:

i got an advise that my hubby should rather be assessed by the TRA/vetassess instead of IEAust. our worry is that he might not get a good compensation package if he is assessed by a vocational assessment body.

1-should he go for the CDR? did you graduate in the philippines, how did you go about this? he's an EE grad but his work has been more focused on hardware/LAN/TCP-IP conversion etc, so i guess he's "underemployed" due to his work experience which is more tuned for CoE grads.

2-would a notary public be enough to certify his credentials for IEAust/DIMIA? we were supposed to lodge back in '98 and was almost done with the paperworks in mnl, we decided to back out at the last minute. i'm just wondering if the certificates of employment issued then would still be accepted?

really looking forward to your reply! we're already drafting his CDR so we can submit asap.

oh btw, i realized i'm not a social professional pala

[Hornsby]

That CDR is a pain... Actually ang Tito ko naman ganun din. Andaming requirements na kailangan.

Miss_mike,

Kung sa assessment ng VetAssess, ok lang naman kung ang purpose nyo makapunta dito sa OZ. Ang mahalaga kasi is makapasa sa Skills Assessment. Most of the time kasi OZs do not care much about the degree but on the professional experience (kapag mag-apply ng work).

Kung IT na ang work ng hubby mo, I suggest na sa ACS (www.acs.org.au) sya mag-pa-assess. Though gagawa pa rin sya ng RPL.

A notary public will suffice. I would suggest na latest na yung gamitin nyo kasi napakatagal na nung '98 docs nyo.

Hope nakatulong ako .

[Hoku]

Originally posted by Hornsby
Mayrun kasing ruling about parents na kailangan kung saang bansa naka-base iyong karamihan sa anak nya dapat duon sya.

Really? Wait a minute... does this mean once the condition is met, the parents automatically get their permanent resident visas, once all necessary docs are submitted? (I presume they should be at retiring age)

[kindred]

Originally posted by miss_mike
Hi kindred!

ang galing!

can you lend me some time (sorry pero i'll maximize my post, paabuso lang pls. advise me on the following:

i got an advise that my hubby should rather be assessed by the TRA/vetassess instead of IEAust. our worry is that he might not get a good compensation package if he is assessed by a vocational assessment body.

1-should he go for the CDR? did you graduate in the philippines, how did you go about this? he's an EE grad but his work has been more focused on hardware/LAN/TCP-IP conversion etc, so i guess he's "underemployed" due to his work experience which is more tuned for CoE grads.

2-would a notary public be enough to certify his credentials for IEAust/DIMIA? we were supposed to lodge back in '98 and was almost done with the paperworks in mnl, we decided to back out at the last minute. i'm just wondering if the certificates of employment issued then would still be accepted?

really looking forward to your reply! we're already drafting his CDR so we can submit asap.

oh btw, i realized i'm not a social professional pala

hi miss_mike!

where did you get the advise that your hubby be assessed by the TRA/Vetassess? what would be his nominated occupation if he intends to get assessed by TRA/Vetassess?

by looking at the skilled occupations list, being assessed by TRA/Vetassess would earn him at the most 50 points for skill while if he got assessed by IEAust, he'd get 60pts. sayang din yung 10pts diba?

now to answer your questions:

1 - if he thinks that his EE experience would satisfy the standards being required by IEAust in their Overseas Qualification Assessment Kit, i suggest that he go for the CDR.

as an alternative, he should also check out the ACS website as suggested by Hornsby kase you mentioned that his work is more attuned to the I.T. field.

im a B.S.E.E. grad from UST and i work as a "protection & control engineer" in an electric utility company dito sa phillippines.

2- a notary public would be enough to certify his credentials for IEAust/ASPC. i suggest that he have two copies per document notarized (1 copy for IEAust and 1 copy for ASPC).

as per instruction from the Overseas Qualification Assessment Kit from IEAust,

"each photocopied page of an original document, including certified translations must be signed by an authorised person who certifies that it is a true copy of the original. The signature must be accompanied by the printed name, status, and contact details of the authorized person. In cases where an official stamp is available this stamp must also be shown. photocopies of previously certified documents will not be accepted. The name and contact details of the person certifying the copy must be clearly evident in every page of the document."

i suggest that he get a new certificate of employment as the one he got before might not be of the correct format. ASPC requires that the COE follow the format as follows:

a) be written on the official letterhead of the company. the letterhead should indicate clearly the full address of the company and any telephone, telex and facsimile numbers

b) the name and position of the person authorized to sign the employment reference should be typed or stamped below the person’s signature

c) the contact telephone number of the person writing the reference should be indicated on the letter

d) the letter should indicate the exact period of employment (including whether permanent or temporary, full or part-time), position/s held, the 5 main duties undertaken and the salary earned – positions should not be described by generic titles (e.g. research officer, public servant) but according to the nature of the duties undertaken (e.g. research chemist, accounts clerk)

daming cheche-bureche ng IEAust/ASPC noh?

i hope this helps

[miss_mike]

Hi Honrsby and kindred!

THANKS SO MUCH for the inputs!!!
it's hard to be clueless and we can't be too assuming this time as small mistakes cost money.

hubby wishes to be assessed as a professional electronics
engineer, sayang nga yung 10 points if he would just be assessed as a tradesperson. i'll discuss all your advises with him. i was able to download the RPL pack and let him choose which is an easier report to submit.

i also intend to formalize my graphic designing skills once i get to mnl, to get certified, points narin for skill matching and "baon" for our move. medyo stale na mga computer certificates ko-EDP/framework concepts pa yun. i'm in the process of scouring the web for institutions which offer such. btw, will my(dlsu) certificates count even if archaic na yung program?

most of my relatives based in oz will be in mnl by march, will it be ok if we have them send the packs via courier once they're in syd?
mas tipid kase, kunat namin 'no?

we better get moving. we intend to lodge before may 2004, surely the ASPC will get flooded by applications post election

you guys are a help! don't get listed with MARA just yet, ha

have a good day all!

[miss_mike]

Originally posted by kindred
hi miss_mike!

where did you get the advise that your hubby be assessed by the TRA/Vetassess? what would be his nominated occupation if he intends to get assessed by TRA/Vetassess?

daming cheche-bureche ng IEAust/ASPC noh?

i hope this helps

hi kindred!
the advise was from an aussie cousin who posted at britishexpats.com. haaay hirap nga, dati ang dali lang mag-apply pag sponsored unlike now. thanks again for the details!

[aussiepugo]

Originally posted by miss_mike
hi kindred!
the advise was from an aussie cousin who posted at britishexpats.com. haaay hirap nga, dati ang dali lang mag-apply pag sponsored unlike now. thanks again for the details!

I would take your cousin's advise if I were you. The chances of getting a favorable assessment as an electrical engineer is quite small because most university degrees in the philippines are not valid here. I know a few Pinoy engineers who had to study 2 more years here before they were qualified to practice their profession as engrs. There are other electrical trade that carry the maximum points of 60. Don't worry too much about using the assessment in applying for work in Australia. We never used ours when we applied for work. What is important, though, is your previous work experience because the first thing they do before they hire you is to call your previous employer so you better make "sipsip" na to your current boss. As what Hornsby said, employers doesn't care much about degrees. It's your skills that they are after. A lot of managers here do not have university degrees. Also, study Hornsby's suggestion of of going to ACS.

[kindred]

Originally posted by aussiepugo
I would take your cousin's advise if I were you. The chances of getting a favorable assessment as an electrical engineer is quite small because most university degrees in the philippines are not valid here. I know a few Pinoy engineers who had to study 2 more years here before they were qualified to practice their profession as engrs. There are other electrical trade that carry the maximum points of 60. Don't worry too much about using the assessment in applying for work in Australia. We never used ours when we applied for work. What is important, though, is your previous work experience because the first thing they do before they hire you is to call your previous employer so you better make "sipsip" na to your current boss. As what Hornsby said, employers doesn't care much about degrees. It's your skills that they are after. A lot of managers here do not have university degrees. Also, study Hornsby's suggestion of of going to ACS.

i mailed my CDR via DHL last November 9, 2003 and got a favorable assessment letter (dated November 19, 2003) from IEAust. less than 10 days lang nila inasess yung CDR ko. the letter i received goes like this:

"thank you for the application for an assessment of your engineering qualifications, and for the competency demonstration report (cdr) you have provided.

i am pleased to advise that the comptencies you have demonstrated taken in conjunction with your qualifications from the (name of school) awarded in (month and year of graduation) have been assessed as meeting the current academic requirement for standing as a professional engineer in Australia.

the appropriate occupational classification in your case for migration purposes is Electrical Engineer ASCO-2125-11."

also included in the assessment letter is my membership # sa IEAust.

so far 100% naman yung batting average namin ng mga officemates ko (5 out of 5) na nagpa assess ng cdr. i think basta na satisfy yung mga competency standards na nire-require ng IEAust eh sureball na yung assessment.

sa aming lima, 3 are now working as electrical engineers in australia.

[DatingBatibot]

Hello Guys,

I am one of those filipinos hoping to migrate to aus someday. I have already received the result of my assessment skills last january. I will be lodgin my DIMMIA application probably by the second week of march. Ang laki ng babayaran, kakahilo. By the way I'll be lodgin it through an immi agency. They are the same agency that help me get my approval from acs. Sabi ng agency mga 12 months pa hihintayin after that. Hayyy ang tagal. But like what ive read from one of the post it's worth it. My question before I let go of my 70,000 DIMMIA lodgin fee is, How sure am I to get the nod from DIMMIA? Would I still fail even if ACS has given approval on my skills? (napaka pessimist ba??) By the way I am married with two kids...

[Hornsby]

hi DatingBatibot,

taga-Bulacan? What a small world kung ganun - taga Meycauayan ako.

But anyway, to your question - at least 90% na ang chances mo if you have a favorable response from the Skills Assessment. Though magkakaroon ka lang ng problems kung may seryosong sakit ka or any of your family members included in the application, kung may malaking criminal record ka, or bad character. Pero sa tingin ko wala ka naman nito.

Patience is always the key factor. Aabutin ng mga less than 2 years ang isang application. I-pass mo na para ma-process agad.

Btw, how much is the migration agent charging you? Mas makakamura ka kung walang agent - straight to DIMA. Parehas din naman kasi ang paghihintay less the cost. Malaking katipiran din - imagine kung ilang Jollibee rin ang mabibili nun

[Hornsby]

Originally posted by kindred
i mailed my CDR via DHL last November 9, 2003 and got a favorable assessment letter (dated November 19, 2003) from IEAust. less than 10 days lang nila inasess yung CDR ko. the letter i received goes like this:

"thank you for the application for an assessment of your engineering qualifications, and for the competency demonstration report (cdr) you have provided.

i am pleased to advise that the comptencies you have demonstrated taken in conjunction with your qualifications from the (name of school) awarded in (month and year of graduation) have been assessed as meeting the current academic requirement for standing as a professional engineer in Australia.

the appropriate occupational classification in your case for migration purposes is Electrical Engineer ASCO-2125-11."

also included in the assessment letter is my membership # sa IEAust.

so far 100% naman yung batting average namin ng mga officemates ko (5 out of 5) na nagpa assess ng cdr. i think basta na satisfy yung mga competency standards na nire-require ng IEAust eh sureball na yung assessment.

sa aming lima, 3 are now working as electrical engineers in australia.

Hi Kindred,

That is nice. Just keep yourself healthy and obey the law . You will be here sooner than you think.

Kung may IELTS ka na, hihingin ng DIMA yun via the Australian Embassy (ganun ang ginawa sa kapatid ko kahit nag-pass na sya). Of course, kailangan din nila ng medical. Once na maka-pass ka na ng medical exam, 95% na ang chances mo.

Ungapla sa lahat magplaplanong pumunta dito, don't get offended kung bibigyan nila kayo ng Health Undertaking form - ibibigay sa inyo sa latter part (iyong tipo bang 96% na ang chances nyo) - importante kasi sa mga OZ iyong health ng population. Since nang galing tayo sa Asia, nag-iingat sila sa SARS, Bird Flu, etc sakit. Baka kasi magtaka kayo (like my bro) na nakapasa kayo sa medical exam tapos para saan itong form na ito. Nakakagulat kasi iyong nakalagay sa form na iyon about TB blah blah blah. Pero it's just a health measure for Australia.

Patience lang .... Go on with your daily activities para hindi mainip

[DatingBatibot]

Hi Hornsby,

Thanks for the reply. Taga San Jose Del Monte ako.... Kaso nag move in kami dito sa QC. Walang makuhang matino yaya eh :-). The agency will me around 60K. Ang dami talagang jollibee nun.... Gusto ko lang makasiguro na baka mayari pa ako pagdating sa technicalities eh. I don't kung gaano katotoo. Sabi ng agency before I applied for ACS, medyo mahirapan ang case kasi nga graduate ako sa university na hindi recognize ng ACS. Pati nga original docs ko they sent it to acs. Pero na retrieve na nila just the other day.

About the health factor, I just sufferred a hearth attack november last year, then my wife has goiter. The kids yung usual na sakit sa manila, parang may Primary complex pero di pa final.

[kindred]

Originally posted by Hornsby
Hi Kindred,

That is nice. Just keep yourself healthy and obey the law . You will be here sooner than you think.

Kung may IELTS ka na, hihingin ng DIMA yun via the Australian Embassy (ganun ang ginawa sa kapatid ko kahit nag-pass na sya). Of course, kailangan din nila ng medical. Once na maka-pass ka na ng medical exam, 95% na ang chances mo.

Ungapla sa lahat magplaplanong pumunta dito, don't get offended kung bibigyan nila kayo ng Health Undertaking form - ibibigay sa inyo sa latter part (iyong tipo bang 96% na ang chances nyo) - importante kasi sa mga OZ iyong health ng population. Since nang galing tayo sa Asia, nag-iingat sila sa SARS, Bird Flu, etc sakit. Baka kasi magtaka kayo (like my bro) na nakapasa kayo sa medical exam tapos para saan itong form na ito. Nakakagulat kasi iyong nakalagay sa form na iyon about TB blah blah blah. Pero it's just a health measure for Australia.

Patience lang .... Go on with your daily activities para hindi mainip

hi hornsby!

one of the requirements for a skills assessment sa IEAust is the IELTS kanya bago ko sinubmit yung CDRs ko kumuha muna ko ng IELTS not unlike before daw na pwede kang magpa-assess then to follow na lang yung IELTS results. now, ASPC din requires that the results of the IELTS be included na with the application for skilled-independednt visa.

ngayon nasa waiting game nako for a reply from ASPC. i was told by my ex-officemates na nandyan na sa oz that i'd have to wait for 6-months raw after lodging my application to get a reply from ASPC. nakaka-inip maghintay! naisip ko tuloy na dapat nuon pa sana ko nag apply

[girlfriend22]

hornsby

pa'no ba to...i think i'm sick. so ngayun palang magpapaka healthy nako i have a strong feeling na maga grant naman ako ng visa kaya lang what if may sakit ako? hmmm and most of my family members are sick. meaning we all have to convalesce until we're all healthy na? then i can leave? what if incurable disease?

thank you thank you!

gen

[Hornsby]

just keep yourselves healthy ... bawal magkasakit sa panahon ng crisis. Kung magagamot kaagad iyong ailments nyo, the earlier the better.

Hindi naman grabe iyong nararamdaman ninyo kasi nagagamot naman. Ayaw lang nila yung communicable - natransfer from one person to another.

Wag rin kayong ma-inip baka magkasakit kayo. Go on with your daily life. Hindi nyo mamalayan nandito na pala kayo.