Would you work for the government?

***batang uliran*** · Dec 15, 1999, 08:08 PM

Why or why not and in what capacity or department?

Kamatayan · Dec 15, 1999, 09:22 PM

Sa Customs...

archangel · Dec 15, 1999, 09:41 PM

Yes. One reason is that government employees get high salaries! In a private hospital, a nurse would have a starting salary of 5-7 thousand inclusive of benefits, while in PGH for example, starting salary is 15,000+ exclusive of benefits. In the same setting, a resident of a private hospital (STUH)would get a monthly allowance of 3-5 thousand a month while in a gov't hosp. he gets more than 10,000.

***batang uliran*** · Dec 15, 1999, 09:49 PM

The government salary thing is deceiving - maybe adequate at the start but a limited upside compared to private industry. Also, as far as resident physicians are concerned, I've always thought that one must go to a place where he/she would get the best training. Once you've gotten that, you can work on your income afterwards.

***batang uliran*** · Dec 15, 1999, 09:50 PM

Kamats: with the new computerized valuation system, Customs has become less lucrative so to speak. However, computers can always be sabotaged....

Ira · Dec 15, 1999, 11:45 PM

and Kamats is just the person to do it.

cathybee · Dec 16, 1999, 12:14 AM

It is worth considering. The pay may not be good but at least you're doing something productive for your fellow people.

Kamatayan · Dec 16, 1999, 02:54 PM

BU: Sus if there's one thing pinoys are good at it's getting around the system...

Yoshi · Dec 16, 1999, 06:24 PM

I'd like to as a diplomat. Kung malaki na ang bayad and may travel oppurtunities pa, di go!

chez-o · Dec 16, 1999, 06:45 PM

i think i will....somebody hire me!!!!

*~AzY~* · Dec 16, 1999, 07:47 PM

yup, i've always dreamt of someday becomin a public servant. i'll make money first in the private industries then i'll run in public office para less temptation. i dont see a political career as some sort of profession kse, it's more like a vocation. so remember the name...it's AzY! vote for me...AzY for Congress!

btw, m really serious!

shiva · Dec 17, 1999, 10:55 AM

i'm not quite certain yet if i'm ready for government work. part of it is the lack of professional expertise. i don't think i've gathered enough knowledge to come up with policies to help a nation. but, the hesitation largely comes from the fear of being corrupted by the system. i'm not too sure i'm set enough as a person to be able to fend of the worldly lures that any government position offers.

but i would like to help somehow through finance. i've been thinking of joining the dep of finance or bsp or tsy dep later on in my career. but i tend to think nowadays that more can be done outside of the government. i've read of private financial institutions helping in low-cost housing and such projects in other countries. perhaps such endeavors are possible here in the philippines.

batang uliran, thanks for making me think about it, though! =)

Agent 007 · Dec 19, 1999, 07:46 AM

i don't think i will...it's kinda frustrating to know the extent of corruption and "palakasan system" in the government can hamper one's qualification for the job...

hudyat · May 19, 2000, 08:09 PM

Is working for the government something you would even think about?

BODACIOUS · May 19, 2000, 08:34 PM

Definitely, I'm a very idealistic person and I know I can make a difference!

Meiji · May 20, 2000, 12:03 AM

Yes, I want to work for the government. Just like Bodacious, I'm an idealistic person. There are things I wanna do and I hope that if I'm there I'd be able to do the things I dream of doing, the things I have to do and most esp. to serve my fellow countrymen.

*bows*

lupuS · May 20, 2000, 12:45 AM

It's not a job for everyone. First of all, it doesn't pay very well, unless one chooses to be corrupt (please...). Secondly, it can be thankless. It has taken its toll on so many idealists wanting to do their share for the country (remember former Finance minister Ongpin, who shot himself in frustration?)

Even if you were honest and incorruptible, many of the people you'll be working with (or probably, against) won't be.

Eterna · May 20, 2000, 01:11 AM

well, why not?

Eterna · May 21, 2000, 01:00 AM

lupusnot anymore, i believe there is a bill passed making government remuneration at par with that of the private sector so that the so-called corrupt practices may be elimanated.

i know for a fact that quiet a number of private employees are seeking employment in the government becuase of the good benefits they offer among these work force include teachers.

***batang uliran*** · May 21, 2000, 01:38 AM

The sad truth is the government does not have the money to even come close to matching the pay one can get in private industry and overseas. Even if such a bill is passed and funding is obtained, the gap would be slightly smaller but would still remain. And this difference in pay is even more pronounced when it comes to the best and the brightest.

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Dec 15, 1999, 08:08 PM	#1
*batang uliran* Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Lawrenceville,	Why or why not and in what capacity or department?


Dec 15, 1999, 09:22 PM	#2
Kamatayan www.digitalfrap.com Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: digitalfrap.com	Sa Customs...


Dec 15, 1999, 09:41 PM	#3
archangel anti-social Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Charm City	Yes. One reason is that government employees get high salaries! In a private hospital, a nurse would have a starting salary of 5-7 thousand inclusive of benefits, while in PGH for example, starting salary is 15,000+ exclusive of benefits. In the same setting, a resident of a private hospital (STUH)would get a monthly allowance of 3-5 thousand a month while in a gov't hosp. he gets more than 10,000.


Dec 15, 1999, 09:49 PM	#4
*batang uliran* Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Lawrenceville,	The government salary thing is deceiving - maybe adequate at the start but a limited upside compared to private industry. Also, as far as resident physicians are concerned, I've always thought that one must go to a place where he/she would get the best training. Once you've gotten that, you can work on your income afterwards.


Dec 15, 1999, 09:50 PM	#5
*batang uliran* Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Lawrenceville,	Kamats: with the new computerized valuation system, Customs has become less lucrative so to speak. However, computers can always be sabotaged....


Dec 15, 1999, 11:45 PM	#6
Ira Member Join Date: Oct 1999	and Kamats is just the person to do it.


Dec 16, 1999, 12:14 AM	#7
cathybee Make It Work! Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Wonderin Wanderin	It is worth considering. The pay may not be good but at least you're doing something productive for your fellow people.


Dec 16, 1999, 02:54 PM	#8
Kamatayan www.digitalfrap.com Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: digitalfrap.com	BU: Sus if there's one thing pinoys are good at it's getting around the system...


Dec 16, 1999, 06:24 PM	#9
Yoshi Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Metro_Manila	I'd like to as a diplomat. Kung malaki na ang bayad and may travel oppurtunities pa, di go!


Dec 16, 1999, 06:45 PM	#10
chez-o Bollywood Icon Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Bollywood	i think i will....somebody hire me!!!!


Dec 16, 1999, 07:47 PM	#11
~AzY~ Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Metro_Manila	yup, i've always dreamt of someday becomin a public servant. i'll make money first in the private industries then i'll run in public office para less temptation. i dont see a political career as some sort of profession kse, it's more like a vocation. so remember the name...it's AzY! vote for me...AzY for Congress! btw, m really serious!


Dec 17, 1999, 10:55 AM	#12
shiva Member Join Date: Jul 1999	i'm not quite certain yet if i'm ready for government work. part of it is the lack of professional expertise. i don't think i've gathered enough knowledge to come up with policies to help a nation. but, the hesitation largely comes from the fear of being corrupted by the system. i'm not too sure i'm set enough as a person to be able to fend of the worldly lures that any government position offers. but i would like to help somehow through finance. i've been thinking of joining the dep of finance or bsp or tsy dep later on in my career. but i tend to think nowadays that more can be done outside of the government. i've read of private financial institutions helping in low-cost housing and such projects in other countries. perhaps such endeavors are possible here in the philippines. batang uliran, thanks for making me think about it, though! =)


Dec 19, 1999, 07:46 AM	#13
Agent 007 Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: M16 Headquaters	i don't think i will...it's kinda frustrating to know the extent of corruption and "palakasan system" in the government can hamper one's qualification for the job...


May 19, 2000, 08:09 PM	#14
hudyat feelingstrangelyfine Join Date: May 2000 Location: Metro_Manila	Is working for the government something you would even think about?


May 19, 2000, 08:34 PM	#15
BODACIOUS Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Metro_Manila	Definitely, I'm a very idealistic person and I know I can make a difference!


May 20, 2000, 12:03 AM	#16
Meiji oxymoron & gadly Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: my space	Yes, I want to work for the government. Just like Bodacious, I'm an idealistic person. There are things I wanna do and I hope that if I'm there I'd be able to do the things I dream of doing, the things I have to do and most esp. to serve my fellow countrymen. bows


May 20, 2000, 12:45 AM	#17
lupuS Mabuhay ang mga... Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Mandaluyong	It's not a job for everyone. First of all, it doesn't pay very well, unless one chooses to be corrupt (please...). Secondly, it can be thankless. It has taken its toll on so many idealists wanting to do their share for the country (remember former Finance minister Ongpin, who shot himself in frustration?) Even if you were honest and incorruptible, many of the people you'll be working with (or probably, against) won't be.


May 20, 2000, 01:11 AM	#18
Eterna Chances Are Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: lost in Space	well, why not?


May 21, 2000, 01:00 AM	#19
Eterna Chances Are Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: lost in Space	lupusnot anymore, i believe there is a bill passed making government remuneration at par with that of the private sector so that the so-called corrupt practices may be elimanated. i know for a fact that quiet a number of private employees are seeking employment in the government becuase of the good benefits they offer among these work force include teachers.


May 21, 2000, 01:38 AM	#20
*batang uliran* Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Lawrenceville,	The sad truth is the government does not have the money to even come close to matching the pay one can get in private industry and overseas. Even if such a bill is passed and funding is obtained, the gap would be slightly smaller but would still remain. And this difference in pay is even more pronounced when it comes to the best and the brightest.