Guys, Be Careful of this Offer... 15th floor Octagon Bldg

[s'lene]

elo poh...
i just received a phone call 2 nights ago...exactly the same *** sinabi ng caller sa mga post nyo..

"Agent: Hi friend. kamusta ka na blah blah? (tapos kwentuhan ever) may business proposal ako sa inyo, pwede humingi ng 3 minutes of your time? im working part time in a US multinational company and now my boss is looking for a potential employee ek ek (syempre uutuin mo yung kakilala mo na potential sya sa NuSkin). you will earn as much as 20k a month. (so syempre ask yung kakilala nyo for sure). Pwede ba ako magschedule ng meeting sa inyo (usually, yung agent, magbibigay na sila ng date) and kailangan nakabusiness attire, on time and no cancellation (so talagang kailangan ka pumunta). During discussion, may mga nagsisigawan...basta hindi professional ang dating)"

tas ayaw sabihin name ng company...tas nung binibigay *** address...sabi ko "wait, this isnt nu skin ryt?" ayun d makasagot....i asked three times ata before nya inamin....ayun sinabi ko sorry im not interested^^
na scam na kasi sister ko dito dati

[bluexy84]

woah... nagulat naman ako sa pictures... ahm, para namang medyo hindi maganda na ma-post ang mga mukha nila dito...

[spo4bantayscam]

Originally Posted by bluexy84

woah... nagulat naman ako sa pictures... ahm, para namang medyo hindi maganda na ma-post ang mga mukha nila dito...

This is to expose these scammers, some of them actually graced earlier posts of this thread. All in the name of public service, in their pathetic faces!

Uulitin ko lang, prevention is the best.

Ready for some more expose, nakahanda na ang resulta ng surveillance namin sa mga iyan.

[Dacs]

Sana man lang at least yung mga tao nakasama sa pics na walang kinalaman sa NuSkin, i-blur naman.

DISCLAIMER: I don't condone posting pics of people, even if they are scammers.

[bluexy84]

Originally Posted by Dacs

Sana man lang at least yung mga tao nakasama sa pics na walang kinalaman sa NuSkin, i-blur naman.

DISCLAIMER: I don't condone posting pics of people, even if they are scammers.

^natumbok mo. hehehe

[omeng]

i just got a missed call this afternoon (15 minutes ago). i texted back "who is this?" then in less than a minute, phone is ringing with the same number.

i did not get the name.. parang hinahabol ng askal kung mag salita. sound ghey on the other line. shane chan or sham chen ang name. let's use the name "paeng" kasi paeng-lish english pa.

paeng: gud afternoon. may i speak with mr. xxxxxx?

me: who is this?

paeng: yes mr. xxxxxx (aba, alam nya ang boses ko kahit wala pang confirmation na ako nga si mr. xxxxx), i'm sheng cheng. you were referred by one of our clients. we would like to know if you're interested on making partnership on our business...

me: (cutting..) who's this again and what company you are representing?

paeng: sham chang. we understand that you're into business, xxxxx corporation. how long have you been in that company? (hindi sinagot kung anong nirerepresent niya na kumpanya)

me: 3 years. teka ano ulit kumpanya nyo?

paeng: we're into health care and technology. it's pharmanex.

me: mukhang malayo yata. (red flag is up)

paeng: sir, may i ask how old are you?

me: (anak ng... ) gantu na lang. if you have business proposal, just email me. im not in the business of giving my personal infos. ok?

paeng: ok sir, what is your email address.

gave that email and hanged up.

then saka ko naalala na may thread na ganito.

mag update ako pag mag email si paeng.

[spo4bantayscam]

@omeng,

Once you have the information (e-mail) please PM or post the name and the cellphone number of that scumbag who tried to invite you into that hellhole.

Thanks

[hayden_kho]

Octagon Tower ba guys,,nde they change their location nasa belvedere tower sila along san miguel ave (malapit sa OSMA bldg) yung mga magpapakatanga ingat.. look sa directory ng bldg ng belvedere sa synergys sila..

para akong nasa shaider..ata parang mga kampon ni fuma lay-ar yung mga tao dun.bwiset.

si michael tanghal ang contact ko dun.

sabe nya about networking so mostly engring students ang biktima dito..

especially from schools DON BOSCO at MAPUA

mga Mapuans, wag papakatanga.

Originally Posted by evodesire

I got a call this morning from a guy who wanted daw an investor for the expansion of their business. Hmmmm, I asked what business this is and he told me that they need like an "executive director" for their expansion project. Sounds interesting and when I asked the name of the company, he went beating around the bush explaining that they have great quality products....

Hmmm.... something fishy

I then asked, whats the name of the company and if he can email me a profile so I can review it before we meet. He said the name is NSE Philippines and he will discuss the nature of it when I am there.

hmmm.... first time for a so called "director" not to send me a company profile.

He said to meet at 15/f Octagon Bldg., Ortigas and I said give me 15 mins, I will just confirm with my secretary and I quicky placed down the phone before he can continue.

Instead, I googled "NSE Philippines" and I learned it was NUSKIN, the company I turned down twice way before and they still never changed their tactics of misleading people! In fact, I never knew that they had became even worse that people rants about it big time, and I am one of them now. Here is the site

http://bewareofnuskin.blogspot.com/

I then gave him a call and right away said "sorry I am not interested in your scam" and placed down the phone.

[deadfishswim]

Nabentahan ako dati ng NU skin..ka opis mate ko sya sa isang col center.After nya ako mabentahan kinukulit nya ako mag seminar daw.Di ako pumayag.And hindi maganda yung product kasi nag ka pimples lalo ako! Tapos after 2 months di ko n sya nakita ulit..

[wicked123456]

sabe ko na nga ba i smell something fishy sa tumawag kahapon... amfs yang mga hayup n yan scammer pala, for apoointment daw ako mamayang gabe sa Ground Floor trafalgar bldg...

sabe ko n nga ba hindi to totoo eh, sa dame ng mga interview na naexperience ko etong hayup *** na tumawag kahapon ang kakaiba, boses bading pa ang hayup nya... saan ka makaka recieve ng call for interview na parang sya pa ang naghahabol at walang ka profeprofessional magsalita hehehe... magbebenta lang *** ng product ang hayup nya... buti nakita ko to bago ako naloko hehe...

may bago sila sa Ground Floor na ng trafalgar bldg, SYNERGY daw company nya hayup talaga

umasa sya na pupunta ako, wag lang syang tumawag uli para magtanong baket hindi ako pumunta bka hindi ako makapag pigil murahin ko yan hayup na yan, istorbong mga leche hehehe (galit na galit)

[wicked123456]

sa inis ko tinext ko ang mokong at sinabe ko na tigilan nila ginagawa nila kasi sinasayang nila oras ng madameng tao at panigurado na may gagawa ng legal actions pag pinagpatuloy pa din nila ang panloloko nila... ang reply ba naman eh (tagalugin ko na ha, nag inglesan kc kme hehehe):

"sinayang mo lang ang oras mo sa pagbabasa ng mga false blog, 11yrs n kme at acknowledge by Pres And VP of the Philippines, sinayang mo ang pagkakataon, sorry..."

dinamay pa si kabayan, hayup talaga! lokohin mong **** mo! hehehe

panong hindi panloloko ginagawa nila, e tatawagan ka nila na parang for interview ka sa isang malakeng US company at may magandang career opportunity then pagpunta mo pala bebentahan ka ng product! Halata lang na hindi totoo kasi from the start na tinawagan ako alam ko na may mali, kasi bading na bisaya yata yung kausap ko, pa english english pa! hehehe

ingats tayo sa mga ganitong scammer \m/

[polarb3ar]

info lang
im a bosconian at may tumawag sa akin na toby tan senior executive daw
ang una kong ginawa, tinanong ko sa kaibigan ko na binigay niya ang name na nag refer daw sa akin.
astig yung interview appointment niya, naging bentahan portion
ingat kayo

[coycoy09]

Hi Guys, comment lang din ako with this company ha.. The comapny in this 15th floor octagon is Pharmanex/Nu Skin Enterprise.

First thing is Networking Company eto or mas kilala sa tawag na MLM(Multilevel Marketing). Kung marketign course *** malamang napag aralan nio ang tungkol sa process ng MLM.

Second, it is TRUE na they will call you para papuntahin dun pero *** PANLOLOKO is NOT TRUE. This is ironic diba? Kasi naman papapuntahin ka dun ng iba ibang dahilan like interview or something na mejo bobolahin ka pa na naghahanap sila ng mga magaling na tao or sideline... *** ganung segway or dahilan is hindi galing sa company kundi galing dun sa tao na tumawag. What I mean is *** tao *** may kasalanan at hindi *** company. If i am in there foot, I'll call my friend at sasabihin ko na inaaya ko sya na mag NETWORKING at hindi kung ano anong dahilan..am I right?

OK, here is my point of view.. I like the networking part kasi madami ka matututunan pero sana wag naman ituro sa tao *** panloloko.

[bluexy84]

coycoy, siguro naman nakakarating na sa company yung ginagawa ng mga tao nila. and hopefully they should have done something about it... sana... ilang taon na pero may ganyang cases pa rin hanggang ngayon. dapat alagaan nila yung name ng company nila, kung sinasabi mong kasalanan ng mga tauhan nila yun.

[darkswan]

may tumawag sa aking
pinapapunta ako 15th floor bldg 41 san miguel ave..
may building 41 ba talaga ??
ang purpose ng tawag sa akin para sa part time job daw?
yung company daw is ah pharma company na us based. awts??

[botingting]

I'll just post some observations i had when a good friend of mine successfully lured me to 26f Trafalgar Plaza. with reference to lost soul and omeng's posts.

1. So crowded and full of young people (mukhang undergrads pa nga sila)
2. All the while akala ko seminar, yun pala hinde product launch pala (my friend is just saying basta opportunity to)
3. they will not tell you anything until you are in their lair
4. Sam Sheng ba Omeng? I think it is Sean. Chinese yun na nagspeaker nung time na andun ako. He is a very good public speaker. Pero kung executive na siya and earning 500k a month or something why bother to call somebody? why not pay for a secretary to do that for you. sabe pa nung sumunod na speaker (ewan ko kung eto toby) mas magara daw kotse ni sean kesa sa kanya
5. napansin ko yung cnbc video medyo luma na siya... paano yung mga stock prices dito sa pinas na pinapakita sa baba (ticker tape) masyado pa mababa. imagine PLDT 840 per share? anong taon yan!
6. Misleading yung sinabe nung 2nd speaker na yung share prices ng NUS sa NYSE eh 3folds na kahit may recession. hay naku check for yourselves magmula sa initial listing! kala nya siguro lahat ng tao dun hinde marunong bumasa ng financials.
7. Anyway, the product must be good. But I've never been into a meeting/seminar or even Board of Directors or Stockholders meeting similar to the style of nu skin. What nu skin does that I cannot see in all others is the fact that they only disclose the end results. or the amounts that you should be receiving. IMHO, as cpa/auditor/financial markets trader, i dont want to know your promises/ earnings I will get. I can compute that myself. Just present me a good SWOT analysis and I'll be fine.

Ang problema lang nagyabang yabang pa mga speakers na kesyo naglalaway daw mga "negatives" sa mga sasakyan nya. at kung san siya nakatira.

[gingerspike]

ako rin, naka-receive rin ng ganitong calls thrice na, yung una gamit yung old tactic nila and yung 2, friends ko na ang tumawag sa akin. i was quite aware of this company already coz the first time they've contacted me, i already searched 15th floor octagon bldg. now, yung tumawag kong friend yesterday na dapat ay may supposed "interview" ako ngayong 630 pm, said that they're office is at 20th floor octagon building. nagbago na naman sila. inindyan ko na lang, hehe. i'm really getting tired of them already. it's true that there's nothing wrong with MLM or networking. it's how they recruit people that's frustrating.

[wanderer12]

Hello Guys,

Just last friday, I was able to experience Nuskin's so called business opportunity seminar, share ko sa inyu ang nangyari.

My former officemate and friend whom I really respect invited me to attend the seminar along with my other former officemate. Gaya ng mga karamihan sa nakaranas dito, hindi rin nasabi nung friend ko yung basic information like anung company o grupo ba yung nagcoconduct ng seminar? basta sabi lang ay business opportunity at part time lang at wala naman siyang nabanggit na member siya at aattend lang din daw siya kaya naman hindi ko na din tinanung maigi.

matagal ko nang nabasa tong thread na to kaya medyo aware na ako sa mga questionable na invitations at hindi naman talaga ako interested sa invitation nya. Reunion lang pinaka reason ko kaya ako sasama kasi nga nainvite din nya yung isa pa namin friend at curious na din.

Pagdating namin sa 26th floor trafalgar plaza nashock ako nung nakita ko na Nuskin pala yung seminar, naalala ko agad yung mga nabadtrip dito sa pex hahahah! Ni set ko sa isip ko na maging alerto sa mga sasabihin at wag basta basta magpapa hypnotize. Hindi pa nagsstart yung seminar kaya nakapagobserve ako sa paligid. Madami mga naguusap usap, usually mga pinapakilala nung mga nag refer at ganun nga din nangyari sakin, kung kani kanino ako pinakilala nung friend ko tapos me mga nagdedemo at pinapatry ng mga facial products nila.

After nun nagstart na yung seminar at halos 2 hours din yung presentation. Magaling naman yung mga speakers, hindi sila boring mag speech, inintroduce yung company at talagang big time daw yung nuskin nasa kasabayan daw ng microsoft at me mga pinapakita sila ng proof from reliable sources daw(hindi ko naman macoconfirm) na feature na daw sa CNN, forbes magazine etc yung success ng Nuskin(malay ko ba, hindi naman ako nanonood o nagbabasa nung mga yun). Tapos yung mga products daw nila ay talagang napag aralan daw ng mga major universities sa USA at iba pang credible entities blah blah blah.

Tapos yung next part ay about sa earning topics naman. Me mga studies daw na nagpapakita na mababang percent lang ang mga talagang kumikita at pinapamukha nung speaker na kapag ikaw ay empleyado lang ay hindi ka daw magkakaroon ng oras sa family mo at hindi din ganung kalakihan ang kikitain kahit na mageffort ka pa ng todo. Ni share pa nung speaker na graduate daw siya ng MAPUA at nagkaron ng mataas na position as employee pero nagquit na daw siya matapos niya madiscover ang Nuskin. Sa Nuskin daw hindi na niya kinailangan gumising ng maaga basta gigising lang daw siya pag tapos na siya matulog at kumikita pa din siya ng malaki at pinapamukha niya na talagang relaxing kahit na kumikita ng malaki sa Nuskin. Tapos ni share din niya yung ilan sa mga balak niya sa kinikita niya, gagawa daw siya ng foundation para makatulong, mamasyal sa iba't ibang bansa at bibili daw siya ng private jet(seryoso, sinabi niya yun!) at madami pa syang sinabi about sa business.

Tapos inintroduce na nga nung speaker yung pagsali sa Nuskin. Kailangan pala magbayad ng 12k para sumali(me iba pang mas expensive na package), bibigyan ka ng products at mag uundergo ka ng training. At natapos na yung seminar.

Tapos nun sabihin daw kung anu na desisyon nyu if A, B or C(A=yes sasali na, B=Gusto ko pa magtanung, C=No) Wag daw magalala ok lang daw mag C wala daw magagalit sa kanila. Pinili ko yung C kasi nga wala talaga ako balak at ok naman ang pagtanggap nila sa desisyon ko at hindi ako tinanung kung bakit kaya bumilib pa din ako sa kanila kahit papano dahil hindi naman sila namimilit.

Overall, hindi naman ako nabwiset sa kanila dahil madali lang naman sila kausap, Pero me mga kaduda duda akong napansin. yung laptop na ginamit nung speaker ay NEO lang kahit na malaki kita daw nila, e samantalang sa company namin panay latest HP yung laptop na pinapagamit sa amin. Yung mga tao dun na nagfull time na daw sa Nuskin ay hindi naman mukang mayaman at parang pilit lang(hehe tingin ko lang yata).

Hindi ko lang sure kung talagang kikita ba o madami bang kumikita sa kanila, sa tingin ko kailangan nila makapagrefer ng madaming member na magbabayad nung 12k para kumita e o kaya ay magbenta nung products at mukang malabo makabenta ng madami dahil sobrang mamahal ng products nila kaya pansin ko parang mas focus nung mga member mag recruit na lang.

Sa ganitong setup, super sure win yung Nuskin, ewan ko lang sa member. Win-win situation kaya talaga?

[4gotten rocker]

ive attended once in their so called seminar @ pacific star but i know from the 1st it's a scam..sad to say my poor colleague recruited me to this but sorry for her...now she have the products but the 16K was gone for the start up..she waste her money,time and other oppurtunities..that's sometime in 2008 just want to know what happened to NusKIN phamanex...their products is good but they recruited people to have their products .. a very good sales strategy which is effective to people who is desperate in making money in just a blink of an eye..
just sharing my opinion....
now my colleague learned from that lesson...don't know about her friend who recruited her a CPA one..argh*

[4gotten rocker]

from octagon ortigas to pacific star makati...??

now trafalgar plaza... Nuskin is still alive and kickn...BEWARE!!!