Guys, Be Careful of this Offer... 15th floor Octagon Bldg - Page 3

overloaded2008 · Nov 27, 2008, 04:21 PM

I've been there before. at patuloy pa rin nila akong tinatawagan. Last 2006 umatend ako kasi kakilala ko yung member nila then nag thank you pa nga ako kasi sa chance , only to know na kinda pyramiding ang sistema. Tapos sinisingil ako ng I forgot how much sabi ko wala akong money heheh at saka di ako pumayag. Last August may tumawag 8:30 ng gabi ha, yun nga daw they got my number at ini-invite nila ako sabi ko na lang di ako interested at di na ko availbale kasi nag te-training na ako for cruiselines "kunwari" heheh...hay sana matigil na lahat ng ganitong scam. Naloko na rin ako dati sa may TEKTITE yung company ng WIN basta health plan daw yun pero networking/pyramiding din yun..nakaka konsensya talaga nung nandun pa ako, kasi halaos ng naiinterview ko mga anak ng magsasaka, lumuwas ng maynila. Hay ayokong ma disappoint ang mga magulang ng mga yun, So I resigned.Di ko masikmura yung sistema.

Ingat tayong lahat. Huwag tayong magpapaniwala. Ok?

killernoodle · Nov 28, 2008, 01:43 AM

let's be open minded din, networking business hindi naman siya macoconsider na scam, its a way to introduce new products, a form of advertising kasi ako kumikita ako basta may sipag ka lang (hindi ito sa nu skin), ang scam siguro is iyong mga company na mali pag implement, ang ayoko lang sa NU Skin is the way they invite people, naalala ko nun nag aaply ako ng work, sabi nila nung tumawag sa akin mapapagkakitaan lang, tapos iyong line nila parati: diba professional ka naman kaya aasahan kita sa meeting natin, tapos pag iniindian mo quequestionin ka pa. naalala ko ayaw ako paalisin dahil pinapapirmahan sa akin iyong contract, sabi ko basahin ko muna sabi nila hindi naman contract yan basta pirmahan mo lang

ubermensch · Nov 28, 2008, 04:38 AM

i am very much intrigued. i've only seen parts of the blog, and i will find time to read all of it. i'm drawn by the fact that toby tangsoc was mentioned. we knew each other from years ago (in ateneo). sounds like he's been doing some bad things (based on the blog).

slimrock · Nov 30, 2008, 03:46 PM

up this one para mabasa din ng iba...

nheyzhel · Dec 14, 2008, 02:34 AM

i just received a call from him...thanks for this thread 'coz I will no longer waste my time and money meeting with him on Monday. Tama nga hindi niya sasabihin kung anong company and what position, pero when I texted him ang sinasabi niya na ngayon na company is Galvanics. E kamusta naman siya hindi ako umaatend ng interview na hindi ko man lang alam ang konting info ng company na pagaaplyan ko. When I searched the net wala akong nakitang website ng company na ganyan, then i tried searching "toby tangsoc" name, ang lumabas mga forums tungkol sa scam niya and his company.

Buti na lang may forum na ganito. Thanks guys!

nheyzhel · Dec 14, 2008, 02:41 AM

FYI na rin. Ito yung bagong address na sinend niya sa 'ken

12th Flr BELVEDERE Tower,
San Miguel Avenue,
Ortigas Center, Pasig City

He is a Senior Executive daw from Galvanics. Palagi niya sinasama yung position sa text niya...hehehe

btc123 · Jan 20, 2009, 01:27 AM

Hay nako! I also got a call from them! The person said its from SYNERGY. They're a distributing company na nageexpand daw so they need people to handle their "expansion projects" kuno.

Tinanong pa ako about my 'leadership' qualifications, the person even asked if I'm active in any org, kung dean's lister ba daw ako, at tinanong pa ang GPA ko. Langya. She even asked about my IT skills (since I'm a CS student at that time), so I thought she was looking for IT people to do the 'project'.

Then she finally said "I expect you to be a professional, you won't back out on the last minute right?" -___-

GT!!

btc123 · Jan 20, 2009, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killernoodle

let's be open minded din, networking business hindi naman siya macoconsider na scam, its a way to introduce new products, a form of advertising kasi ako kumikita ako basta may sipag ka lang (hindi ito sa nu skin), ang scam siguro is iyong mga company na mali pag implement, ang ayoko lang sa NU Skin is the way they invite people, naalala ko nun nag aaply ako ng work, sabi nila nung tumawag sa akin mapapagkakitaan lang, tapos iyong line nila parati: diba professional ka naman kaya aasahan kita sa meeting natin, tapos pag iniindian mo quequestionin ka pa. naalala ko ayaw ako paalisin dahil pinapapirmahan sa akin iyong contract, sabi ko basahin ko muna sabi nila hindi naman contract yan basta pirmahan mo lang

I agree, di nga scams ang networking business. Pero sana naman kung mangrerecruit sila sabihin na nila na networking business sila, hindi yung "expansion project" or "marketing opportunity" or whatever.

Tinawagan friend ko, kailangan daw nila ng non-pro engineers / engineering students for their new "project". What for?!?! LOL. maiisip mo tuloy na isa siyang job offer na inclined sa course mo.

DigitalAnalog · Jan 21, 2009, 10:55 AM

This company goes by several aliases:

1. Nu Skin
2. NSE
3. Pharmanex
4. Synergy 1 Global
5. Lead Global
6. Wealth Odessey

A legitimate company is normally very protective of its corporate identity. It takes years to build up goodwill and reputation so only a shady company would be ashamed to give you their name. A good parallelization can be made between this company and a criminal using different aliases to evade detection. I will not be surprised if following the damaging blogs written about them, a new name will surface soon.

Their meetings are held at:

1. 26F Trafalgar Bldg. at Dela Costa
2. 15F Octagon Bldg. at Ortigas

A quick Google search of either of addresses will bring up a slew of blog entries that do not mince words in expressing their disgust. I haven't seen any positive reference to them so far.

They have a new modus operandi right now. Instead of merely withholding the name of the company, they will ask to meet you instead in front of Starbucks at Pacific Star along Makati Ave. and then you walk towards Trafalgar Plaza. This is what the person trying to recruit me did and is undoubtedly a ploy to again mask the overwhelmingly negative reactions on the internet. So guys, remember, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck. Or a scam.

jessier0523 · Jan 21, 2009, 04:28 PM

Iba pa ba to sa AMWAY? Diba selling products din ang seminar pag pumunta ka sa amway phils, sa may herrera or rufino st.

scud21 · Jan 21, 2009, 04:57 PM

sh|t, naalala ko ang experience ko dito! buti na lang hindi ako napapirma!

DigitalAnalog · Jan 21, 2009, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jessier0523

Iba pa ba to sa AMWAY? Diba selling products din ang seminar pag pumunta ka sa amway phils, sa may herrera or rufino st.

They're different but they all share the same inherent characteristics. The difference with this one (Nu Skin, Pharmanex, NSE, Synergy 1, etc. etc.) though is that their recruitment techniques are very deceptive and cunning, they make sure that you don't know who they are or what they do until the very last minute. Given the notoriety that they have gained, it's not hard to see why they resort to this type of trickery and deceit.

JL_up03 · Jan 21, 2009, 06:23 PM

muntik na din ako dito.sabe sakin they need researchers for their new product.argh.nakakainis.

froshie1 · Jan 21, 2009, 06:44 PM

Actually maganda ang products nila, very innovative. If you are concerned about your health malupet ang products nila. Saan ka makakakita ng pang measure ng free radicals sa katawan mo? At saan ka makakakita ng vitamins na kumpletong kumpleto?

Their company is not a scam but I feel for those who said it is, reason because the way they presented themselves I don't blame you but it's not a scam. Legitimate ito baka desperado lang makakuha ng recruits.

Hindi ko forte ang sales and marketing but if kung forte ko ito, papatulan ko ito. Kung marami lang akong pera magiging customer nila ako, may kamahalan kasi iyong mga health products nila which is again innovative.

gb25 · Jan 21, 2009, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nheyzhel

FYI na rin. Ito yung bagong address na sinend niya sa 'ken

12th Flr BELVEDERE Tower,
San Miguel Avenue,
Ortigas Center, Pasig City

He is a Senior Executive daw from Galvanics. Palagi niya sinasama yung position sa text niya...hehehe

pang-tawag pansin. hehe

5110 · Feb 1, 2009, 07:25 AM

I also recieved a phone call from someone named Michael Tanghal just last night and he invited me to have biz meeting with him at the same place. I am so surprised kasi damin nya alam sakin sabi nya he got my details from their database so ok maybe he got it from jobstreet. blah blah, same scripts blah blah. since ugali ko na talagang mag research muna ng mga company bago mag apply, I forgot the name of their company so I just typed the exact address in google. bingo! theres an existing blog about 2years ago and still running. I read it and it is definitely a SCAM! muntik na ako dun ha. so CANCEL na agad yung appointment ko sa kanya.

Guys ingat lang lagi, always do some research about the company importante talaga yun. Powerful pa din talaga ang INFORMATION.

bago na din pala yung address nila pero same vicinity:

15/F Teleperformance Bldg., San Miguel Ave. Ortigas

mejo mahilig sila sa 15/F ha.

http://silkenhut.wordpress.com/2007/...international/

shaokao · Feb 5, 2009, 12:24 AM

pinuntahan ko dati to...kasi parang extra income or sideline ang sabi..akala ko job interview pupuntahan ko. tapos, nagulat ako...sobrang dami ng tao. tapos ayun na, nagsalita na sila and with matching video pa..then, sinabi na yung amount para ma ka join ka...ayun umuwi na ko..bad trip talaga..sayang sa oras...

gymrat23 · Feb 25, 2009, 12:32 PM

Got a call from the last week.. NSE philippines daw..

new tactic.. they got my number from DLSU listings daw from the OCS.. ang hinahanap naman nila ngayon eh investors. They told em they are in an ongoing expansion program and are looking for potential investors willing to gain 20 to 30k monthly. (parang sweldo a.. para sa investors may fixed income?)

anyway di naman siya nangulit.. told him i have a stable job and a company on the run so i have no time for them. nanghingi lang ng referrals ang sabi ko "di ba you have listings? you can call any of them sila rin yung mga kakilala ko".. i don't want to forward scams to any of my friends and acquaintances.. not a good business attitude.

wish these companies would clean up their ethical attitude.

degreez1008 · Apr 29, 2009, 11:57 AM

^ guys, kakatawag lang sa akin ng isang raffy enriquez from NSE philippines.. do you think kelangan ko siyang itext na hindi nalang ako pupunta?

104xxxxx · Apr 29, 2009, 06:54 PM

^ raffy enriquez? the same guy called me 3-4 weeks ago if my memory serves me right. he got my name daw from a list of fresh graduates and asked me if i'm available for an interview for a contractual position. buti nalang tumanggi ako. ayun, sa 15f teleperformance building nga yung venue.

pero ngayon ko lang nalaman na may pagka-scam pala yun. whew.


Dec 14, 2008, 02:34 AM	#45
nheyzhel Member Join Date: Dec 2008	toby tangsoc ..wtf...from NUSkin to Galvanics...beware i just received a call from him...thanks for this thread 'coz I will no longer waste my time and money meeting with him on Monday. Tama nga hindi niya sasabihin kung anong company and what position, pero when I texted him ang sinasabi niya na ngayon na company is Galvanics. E kamusta naman siya hindi ako umaatend ng interview na hindi ko man lang alam ang konting info ng company na pagaaplyan ko. When I searched the net wala akong nakitang website ng company na ganyan, then i tried searching "toby tangsoc" name, ang lumabas mga forums tungkol sa scam niya and his company. Buti na lang may forum na ganito. Thanks guys!


Dec 14, 2008, 02:41 AM	#46
nheyzhel Member Join Date: Dec 2008	toby tangsoc ..wtf...from NUSkin to Galvanics...beware FYI na rin. Ito yung bagong address na sinend niya sa 'ken 12th Flr BELVEDERE Tower, San Miguel Avenue, Ortigas Center, Pasig City He is a Senior Executive daw from Galvanics. Palagi niya sinasama yung position sa text niya...hehehe


Jan 21, 2009, 10:55 AM	#49
DigitalAnalog Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Las Pinas City	Deception and trickery This company goes by several aliases: 1. Nu Skin 2. NSE 3. Pharmanex 4. Synergy 1 Global 5. Lead Global 6. Wealth Odessey A legitimate company is normally very protective of its corporate identity. It takes years to build up goodwill and reputation so only a shady company would be ashamed to give you their name. A good parallelization can be made between this company and a criminal using different aliases to evade detection. I will not be surprised if following the damaging blogs written about them, a new name will surface soon. Their meetings are held at: 1. 26F Trafalgar Bldg. at Dela Costa 2. 15F Octagon Bldg. at Ortigas A quick Google search of either of addresses will bring up a slew of blog entries that do not mince words in expressing their disgust. I haven't seen any positive reference to them so far. They have a new modus operandi right now. Instead of merely withholding the name of the company, they will ask to meet you instead in front of Starbucks at Pacific Star along Makati Ave. and then you walk towards Trafalgar Plaza. This is what the person trying to recruit me did and is undoubtedly a ploy to again mask the overwhelmingly negative reactions on the internet. So guys, remember, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck. Or a scam. Last edited by DigitalAnalog : Jan 21, 2009 at 11:23 AM.


Apr 29, 2009, 06:54 PM	#60
104xxxxx Member Join Date: Sep 2006	^ raffy enriquez? the same guy called me 3-4 weeks ago if my memory serves me right. he got my name daw from a list of fresh graduates and asked me if i'm available for an interview for a contractual position. buti nalang tumanggi ako. ayun, sa 15f teleperformance building nga yung venue. pero ngayon ko lang nalaman na may pagka-scam pala yun. whew. Last edited by 104xxxxx : Apr 29, 2009 at 07:25 PM. Reason: flow of ideas..


Nov 27, 2008, 04:21 PM	#41
overloaded2008 Member Join Date: Oct 2008	I've been there before. at patuloy pa rin nila akong tinatawagan. Last 2006 umatend ako kasi kakilala ko yung member nila then nag thank you pa nga ako kasi sa chance , only to know na kinda pyramiding ang sistema. Tapos sinisingil ako ng I forgot how much sabi ko wala akong money heheh at saka di ako pumayag. Last August may tumawag 8:30 ng gabi ha, yun nga daw they got my number at ini-invite nila ako sabi ko na lang di ako interested at di na ko availbale kasi nag te-training na ako for cruiselines "kunwari" heheh...hay sana matigil na lahat ng ganitong scam. Naloko na rin ako dati sa may TEKTITE yung company ng WIN basta health plan daw yun pero networking/pyramiding din yun..nakaka konsensya talaga nung nandun pa ako, kasi halaos ng naiinterview ko mga anak ng magsasaka, lumuwas ng maynila. Hay ayokong ma disappoint ang mga magulang ng mga yun, So I resigned.Di ko masikmura yung sistema. Ingat tayong lahat. Huwag tayong magpapaniwala. Ok?


Nov 28, 2008, 01:43 AM	#42
killernoodle Member Join Date: May 2006	let's be open minded din, networking business hindi naman siya macoconsider na scam, its a way to introduce new products, a form of advertising kasi ako kumikita ako basta may sipag ka lang (hindi ito sa nu skin), ang scam siguro is iyong mga company na mali pag implement, ang ayoko lang sa NU Skin is the way they invite people, naalala ko nun nag aaply ako ng work, sabi nila nung tumawag sa akin mapapagkakitaan lang, tapos iyong line nila parati: diba professional ka naman kaya aasahan kita sa meeting natin, tapos pag iniindian mo quequestionin ka pa. naalala ko ayaw ako paalisin dahil pinapapirmahan sa akin iyong contract, sabi ko basahin ko muna sabi nila hindi naman contract yan basta pirmahan mo lang


Nov 28, 2008, 04:38 AM	#43
ubermensch DixieChicken TennesseeLamb Join Date: May 2001 Location: west lafayette	i am very much intrigued. i've only seen parts of the blog, and i will find time to read all of it. i'm drawn by the fact that toby tangsoc was mentioned. we knew each other from years ago (in ateneo). sounds like he's been doing some bad things (based on the blog).


Nov 30, 2008, 03:46 PM	#44
slimrock Member Join Date: Nov 2008	up this one para mabasa din ng iba...


Jan 20, 2009, 01:27 AM	#47
btc123 Member Join Date: Jan 2009	Hay nako! I also got a call from them! The person said its from SYNERGY. They're a distributing company na nageexpand daw so they need people to handle their "expansion projects" kuno. Tinanong pa ako about my 'leadership' qualifications, the person even asked if I'm active in any org, kung dean's lister ba daw ako, at tinanong pa ang GPA ko. Langya. She even asked about my IT skills (since I'm a CS student at that time), so I thought she was looking for IT people to do the 'project'. Then she finally said "I expect you to be a professional, you won't back out on the last minute right?" -___- GT!!


Jan 21, 2009, 04:28 PM	#50
jessier0523 Member Join Date: Jun 2006	Iba pa ba to sa AMWAY? Diba selling products din ang seminar pag pumunta ka sa amway phils, sa may herrera or rufino st.


Jan 21, 2009, 04:57 PM	#51
scud21 Member Join Date: May 2007	sh\|t, naalala ko ang experience ko dito! buti na lang hindi ako napapirma!


Jan 21, 2009, 06:23 PM	#53
JL_up03 Member Join Date: Jun 2006	muntik na din ako dito.sabe sakin they need researchers for their new product.argh.nakakainis.


Jan 21, 2009, 06:44 PM	#54
froshie1 Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Safeway	Actually maganda ang products nila, very innovative. If you are concerned about your health malupet ang products nila. Saan ka makakakita ng pang measure ng free radicals sa katawan mo? At saan ka makakakita ng vitamins na kumpletong kumpleto? Their company is not a scam but I feel for those who said it is, reason because the way they presented themselves I don't blame you but it's not a scam. Legitimate ito baka desperado lang makakuha ng recruits. Hindi ko forte ang sales and marketing but if kung forte ko ito, papatulan ko ito. Kung marami lang akong pera magiging customer nila ako, may kamahalan kasi iyong mga health products nila which is again innovative.


Feb 1, 2009, 07:25 AM	#56
5110 Bean there... Done that! Join Date: Feb 2007	I also recieved a phone call from someone named Michael Tanghal just last night and he invited me to have biz meeting with him at the same place. I am so surprised kasi damin nya alam sakin sabi nya he got my details from their database so ok maybe he got it from jobstreet. blah blah, same scripts blah blah. since ugali ko na talagang mag research muna ng mga company bago mag apply, I forgot the name of their company so I just typed the exact address in google. bingo! theres an existing blog about 2years ago and still running. I read it and it is definitely a SCAM! muntik na ako dun ha. so CANCEL na agad yung appointment ko sa kanya. Guys ingat lang lagi, always do some research about the company importante talaga yun. Powerful pa din talaga ang INFORMATION. bago na din pala yung address nila pero same vicinity: 15/F Teleperformance Bldg., San Miguel Ave. Ortigas mejo mahilig sila sa 15/F ha. http://silkenhut.wordpress.com/2007/...international/


Feb 5, 2009, 12:24 AM	#57
shaokao Member Join Date: Feb 2009	pinuntahan ko dati to...kasi parang extra income or sideline ang sabi..akala ko job interview pupuntahan ko. tapos, nagulat ako...sobrang dami ng tao. tapos ayun na, nagsalita na sila and with matching video pa..then, sinabi na yung amount para ma ka join ka...ayun umuwi na ko..bad trip talaga..sayang sa oras...


Feb 25, 2009, 12:32 PM	#58
gymrat23 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: ACCT PRMNTLY DSBLD	Got a call from the last week.. NSE philippines daw.. new tactic.. they got my number from DLSU listings daw from the OCS.. ang hinahanap naman nila ngayon eh investors. They told em they are in an ongoing expansion program and are looking for potential investors willing to gain 20 to 30k monthly. (parang sweldo a.. para sa investors may fixed income?) anyway di naman siya nangulit.. told him i have a stable job and a company on the run so i have no time for them. nanghingi lang ng referrals ang sabi ko "di ba you have listings? you can call any of them sila rin yung mga kakilala ko".. i don't want to forward scams to any of my friends and acquaintances.. not a good business attitude. wish these companies would clean up their ethical attitude.


Apr 29, 2009, 11:57 AM	#59
degreez1008 Is that your final answer? Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Hot Seat	^ guys, kakatawag lang sa akin ng isang raffy enriquez from NSE philippines.. do you think kelangan ko siyang itext na hindi nalang ako pupunta?