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watermelon
Jul 6, 2000, 12:40 AM
i was able to watch some anime in channel 7. at first it was nice watching the characters move, interact with each other, very funny. but then i've noticed, some have topics definitely not for kids, e.g voyeurism in ranma.

agree or disagree? should some anime be relegated to a later timeslot because of not-for-kids contents?

davanita
Jul 6, 2000, 12:59 AM
I've never really been an anime fan, I've never even watched a full episode of any anime "cartoon", so I guess I can't give an "informed" opinion. But from what little I've seen, I think it's too violent and too mature to be shown to kids. The title escapes me now, but there's one where a kid has three girlfriends! I mean, what kind of example is that to kids?! :confused:

Just my two cents' worth... :D

pamela
Jul 6, 2000, 02:33 PM
para sakin its definitely not for kids. kse puro away, labanan, about power or who's the best ang mga anime. mahilig ako sa animes, i really enjoy watching it pero kung iisipin **** pwedeng malason utak ng mga bata diba.

IceAngel
Jul 6, 2000, 04:45 PM
Being an anime fan, I wouldn't say that anime isn't for kids. However, I think its more safe to say that anime isn't for everybody. There's a certain anime that appeals to kids and there's others that appeals to the older genre. I guess it all depends on choice.

I think anime that has topics that are probably "unsuitable" for kids should be moved to a different time slot. For example, EVA shouldn't be in a 4:30 time slot!! (What the hell was ABS-CBN thinking???). Pokemon, I think, is safe to be in the 4:30 timeslot. Something like that.

Just my two cents, of course.

amparo_paro
Jul 7, 2000, 12:39 AM
i get to watch anime when i can and i agree that most of them are not for kids...most of them or at least the ones that is being shown in phil. television are too violent. an office mate (whose a dad himself) once remarked when he first saw hell teacher nube (or something like that)that it isn't for kids because of the talks about demons and possessions.

The Rock
Jul 7, 2000, 01:49 AM
Like IceAngel, The Rock is an anime fan and he agrees that not all anime is for kids. But as The Rock said in a previous thread, there is a distinct genre within Japanese anime that is purely meant for kids. unfortunately dito sa Pinas, only Pokemon, Digimon, Doraemon, Mojacko, and probably Monster Rancher fall in that category among those shown on TV today. Most of the anime shown now are a. either too violent, b. have too confusing and sophisticated storylines, or c. too much sex, to appeal to kids. These anime belong in a primetime slot, but there is still enough kiddie anime that kids will enjoy and not be corrupted.

Hey don't forget, it always goes back to the parents monitoring what their kids are watching. ;)

If you smell what The Rock is cookin! :cool:

Lorskie
Jul 7, 2000, 11:53 AM
YEAH it's not for kids... Grabe na ang violence sa movies pati na rin ang news, tapos ganun pa rin kapag cartoons. Parang napakadisturbing diba? Let the kids see the best of this world, not its worst. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/angel.gif

BlacKHeaveN
Jul 7, 2000, 07:54 PM
Well, some anime are definitely not for kids. As you guys said too much violence and then some. Thing is TV stations just want the ratings and they just happen to stumble upon a very good thing here, which is japanese anime. Hey, but I'm grateful because they showed some pretty good stuff, its far better than watching those damn Pinoy dubbed Spanish soap operas.

matte
Jul 10, 2000, 10:35 AM
ok naman ang mga animes a! ang cute nga nila e. pero minsan nga parang sobra na...

buttons
Jul 10, 2000, 02:36 PM
i have no interest in anime or cartoons of any kind whatsoever (i didn't watch any of those disney movies, from little mermaid to tarzan!!), but from what i know, i do agree that some anime are not for kids. i read somewhere that pokemon was dealing with spirits of the dead and other morbid stuff which made kids so scared (well, at least that's what the article claimed, it was written by parents whose kids loved the pokemon games!). oh well...i guess it doesn't mean that just because it's an animated tv show/film or just because it's colorful, it's for kids.

yun lang.

Mokkori
Jul 10, 2000, 10:44 PM
IceAngel and The Rock know what they're talking about! Thing is that many if not most animes are produced to cater to the Japanese audience... in many cases there, partial nudity (i.e. breast exposure) is acceptable on broadcast television. With the cultural differences in mind... take into account that the Japanese don't make a big deal out of these things as much as we or most other countries would!

Anime is a medium that can be divided into several categories in itself. Some are catered to teenage males, teenage females, todlers to preteens, even adults to senior citizens compose a large percentage of anime audiences in Japan. The interesting thing is how successful anime has become here in the Philippines despite the cultural boundaries, though I do have to agree... putting Eva on the 4:30 timeslot is ridiculous... I'm not so keen on the tagalog translations either! But that's just me!

nadesico
Jul 14, 2000, 06:52 PM
there are some animes that are definitely not suitable for kids because of violence and nudity and other factors. it's a no disney cartoon, definitely.

grounded
Jul 15, 2000, 08:57 PM
Sobra! Nabibigla ako sa mga pinapanood ng 5 year old brother ko. Ang raming sexual undertones. Mga suot nila and mga exaggerated parts ng body! (spell check) Yung violence pa!

GMA is anime pala ah!

%^#@!

not for kids. that's jap pop culture. i don't get it, never did, perhaps never will.

jega
Jul 17, 2000, 12:52 AM
definitely not for kids! most of them are depicting violence. hindi ata maganda yon! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/grrr.gif

[This message has been edited by jega (edited 07-17-2000).]

jethro
Jul 17, 2000, 03:29 PM
why don't we ask the kids patronizing anime itself??? shempre biased tayo dahil di tayo enjoy sa ganong movies...it's like asking the kids what's their comments on debate with mare and pare!

peace!

sextonfurnival
Sep 21, 2001, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by jega
definitely not for kids! most of them are depicting violence. hindi ata maganda yon! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/grrr.gif

[This message has been edited by jega (edited 07-17-2000).]

have you read a fairy tale lately?
if you're looking for violence consumed by kids, read fairy tales. the big bad wolf eats grandma in little red riding hood. tell me that's not violent.

thing is, you can't really escape violence in stories, it's a basic human experience. all of us experienced some sort of violent experience some time or another.

the worst type of violence on TV, or in stories are those sanitized violence, like explosions with no footages of dead bodies. it's sanitized, so we will be desentisized to these images later. that's the dangerous thing.

don't blame anime as the leading source of violence. it contains just as much violence as the average warner bros. cartoon, but daffy duck doesn't bleed when blasted by a gun. the violence there is sanitized, and humorous.


the thing to do is for parents to watch what their kids are watching. and raise their kids properly so the violence they see on screen won't affect them that much. it's the real-life violence we should be really worrying about, you know.



:goldfish:

sextonfurnival
Sep 21, 2001, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by nadesico
there are some animes that are definitely not suitable for kids because of violence and nudity and other factors. it's a no disney cartoon, definitely.

and lion king is not violent for you?
or the climax of beauty and the beast?



:goldfish:

Pointless
Sep 22, 2001, 09:55 AM
Being animated doesn't mean its kid stuff... people fail to realize that...

Networks should show the anime My Neighbor Totoro, that's a good show for kids...

thehitman
Sep 22, 2001, 02:50 PM
The beauty of anime is that it caters to all the age groups, just like what the others before me said. We have some like Doraemon, Mojacko, etc., that are for kids. We have Pokemon for kids and adolescents. We have Ranma and the fighting-type anime for the young adults. And we do have a type of anime called hentai that is strictly adult-material (these are the anime that won't see television air time).

Rascha_D
Sep 24, 2001, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by thehitman
The beauty of anime is that it caters to all the age groups, just like what the others before me said. We have some like Doraemon, Mojacko, etc., that are for kids. We have Pokemon for kids and adolescents. We have Ranma and the fighting-type anime for the young adults. And we do have a type of anime called hentai that is strictly adult-material (these are the anime that won't see television air time).

Well, Fushigi Yuugi is a soft hentai. But GMA cut out some scenes to be able to show it to kids. :D

Lucca Yamazaki
Sep 24, 2001, 05:22 AM
Those networks should spend some of their earnings doing research on these things. They look like they don't know what they're doing. I remember seeing Blue Water (a.k.a. Nadia) in a 10 a.m. slot (not that I condemn it, it's STILL Blue Water, but still...) and EVA in a 4:30 slot (again, it's STILL EVA, even with bad dubbing... at least... but still......)

It's all about timeslots, I think.

shadowboxer
Sep 24, 2001, 01:41 PM
di lang naman voyeurism ang dapat ikabahala ng mga nanonood ng anime eh... there's other heavy stuff like occultism, violence (admit it, nakaka-bother minsan), homosexuality (not that i'm saying this is bad), more innuendos... among others. pero nde ko naman sinasabi na yung ibang animated stuff don't entail the same elements aforementioned. ayun.

basta ang saken lang, mapa-anong palabas yan, basta older people would explain such matters to kids rationally & patiently naman, walang problema. i remember as a kid na kung ano-ano na rin ang napapanood ko dati... as in mas morbid pa minsan kse sa mga nakikita ko ngayon... pero OK lang. ako nang namroblema sa sarili ko kung ano yun. so far, i dun find any ill effects. to each his own comprehension din lang, *****.

golfbravo
Sep 26, 2001, 04:23 AM
Fushigi yuugi should be for teens and not for kids. Dapat ay ibalik na lang nila ulit yung mga classics tulad ng voltes v, mazzinger z, daimos, transformers, voltron atbp. kahit na medyo nakakasawa na. O kaya yung visionaries?

SoliduS_AlphA
Sep 26, 2001, 04:57 AM
tama si The Rock ....pero nalilito ako sa mga bata ngayon .. mas malalim na ang pag intindi nila sa anime at mas responsable na ang iba sa kanila ....

Rascha_D
Sep 26, 2001, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by golfbravo
Fushigi yuugi should be for teens and not for kids. Dapat ay ibalik na lang nila ulit yung mga classics tulad ng voltes v, mazzinger z, daimos, transformers, voltron atbp. kahit na medyo nakakasawa na. O kaya yung visionaries?

Gusto ko yung SPIRAL ZONE (tama ba?!).

shadowboxer
Sep 26, 2001, 11:36 AM
ganda ng mga episodes ng Card Captors Sakura at Detective Conan, grabe!!!!!!!! :D
pero punyemas, anlalim... :hmm:

mvergara
Sep 26, 2001, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by watermelon
i was able to watch some anime in channel 7. at first it was nice watching the characters move, interact with each other, very funny. but then i've noticed, some have topics definitely not for kids, e.g voyeurism in ranma.

agree or disagree? should some anime be relegated to a later timeslot because of not-for-kids contents?

Agree! Because most anime shows talk about love and sex. ;)

maya_arms
Sep 27, 2001, 04:15 AM
Originally posted by SoliduS_AlphA
tama si The Rock ....pero nalilito ako sa mga bata ngayon .. mas malalim na ang pag intindi nila sa anime at mas responsable na ang iba sa kanila ....


i agree. but i think na yung manga violence ay ok lang. tulad ng recca at ghost fighter. kasi death is also a part of life and as early as young age, kids should know the seriousness of every action that they do. yun siguro ang benefits ng mild violence sa anime. simple battle between good and evil.

Pro ang di dapat nandoon ay *** sobrang sex themes


maniac talaga hapon

VioletJersey
Sep 27, 2001, 08:39 AM
I definitely agree with Mokkori... Japanese pop culture is far more "complex" compared to us... and with anime being violent... it's how you "interpret" its human violence and sensuality that makes it unpleasant... the one thing that i like about anime is its diversity... watching it makes you feel that animation should NEVER be classified as merely for kids... and i've always believe that one of the best ways of raising kids is by treating them like adult... explain the pros and cons of life in a way that could prepare them for the real world...

one of the bad things of handling anime in the Phils... is that they tend to think that only kids are the only one who watches anime when in fact... most viewers are teens and true anime-fanatics... if only they try to implement the way Japan releases their anime... kiddie genre during the mornings, shojo/shonen in the afternoons/primetime slot, and the slightly "mature" genre during late nights... o di kaya gumawa na lang sila ng channel na nagpapalabas ng anime 24/7 ( damn! di na ako ma22log nyan!?! :lol: )!!! :D


:p :belat: :p

sextonfurnival
Sep 27, 2001, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by VioletJersey
I definitely agree with Mokkori... Japanese pop culture is far more "complex" compared to us... and with anime being violent... it's how you "interpret" its human violence and sensuality that makes it unpleasant... the one thing that i like about anime is its diversity... watching it makes you feel that animation should NEVER be classified as merely for kids... and i've always believe that one of the best ways of raising kids is by treating them like adult... explain the pros and cons of life in a way that could prepare them for the real world...

one of the bad things of handling anime in the Phils... is that they tend to think that only kids are the only one who watches anime when in fact... most viewers are teens and true anime-fanatics... if only they try to implement the way Japan releases their anime... kiddie genre during the mornings, shojo/shonen in the afternoons/primetime slot, and the slightly "mature" genre during late nights... o di kaya gumawa na lang sila ng channel na nagpapalabas ng anime 24/7 ( damn! di na ako ma22log nyan!?! :lol: )!!! :D


:p :belat: :p


network executives can't get it into their stupid little heads that "animated" doesn't mean "for-kids-only."



:goldfish:

burn_stampede
Sep 28, 2001, 12:32 AM
i think anime is not good for kids coz with all the violence they're showing, it makes children play like their favorite anime character!

like LupinIII it always make cildren beleive it's right to steal something

Dragonball Z full of violence!

kids need some supervisions from their older siblings to teach them that not all they are watching is good!

*okay*

sextonfurnival
Sep 28, 2001, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by burn_stampede
i think anime is not good for kids coz with all the violence they're showing, it makes children play like their favorite anime character!

like LupinIII it always make cildren beleive it's right to steal something

Dragonball Z full of violence!

kids need some supervisions from their older siblings to teach them that not all they are watching is good!

*okay*

you're generalizing, dude.

some anime shows like akazukin cha cha and card captor sakura are suitable for kids, depende sa age nila. (i love both shows, though :D )

but some programs, like EVA or gundam are not for really young viewers. heck i don't think i'll let a 12 year old watch EVA without supervision.

anime has a lot of different markets, sa Japan. i don't get it how filipino network execs can't see that some anime are targeted for teens, or adults, and not for children.

or maybe they just don't watch TV.




:goldfish:

shaoron
Nov 17, 2001, 12:26 AM
not sutable for young audience?
kelan naman naging sutable for ALL audience?
panoorin mo muna yung Rouruni Kenshin OVA, then tell me kung sutable for all audience yun!