admu's mis/cs and dlsu's it- ched's CoD [Archive]

Invincible

Mar 16, 2002, 05:28 AM

More people? Are you referring to PEx people? People you know?

There are more people frrom La Salle here in PEx. Just read the posts in the various fora, especially UAAP and campus chat.

"More people" is not indicative of which is better.

Make your own call. Don't let these "others" do the thinking for you.

Your parents are more reliable than these so-called "other" people. At least, you can rest assured they have your best interests in mind when they make their recommendation.

twelve_12

Apr 3, 2002, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by greenDestiny
both are ched's center of dev't excellence... how come more people claim that dlsu's cs is better? is it just the facilities? if dlsu's better, how come it's not ched's center of excellence?
just some clarifying questions...

here's the list of CHED's Center of Development in Information Technology:

INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY
EAST ASIA COLLEGE
POLYTECHNIC UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES

mac_bolan00

Apr 3, 2002, 03:50 AM

of the four, two are government-run. ano ba naman itong mga private colleges na 'to!!!

:rolleyes:

Exterminator

Apr 3, 2002, 05:04 AM

Originally posted by twelve_12

here's the list of CHED's Center of Development in Information Technology:

INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY
EAST ASIA COLLEGE
POLYTECHNIC UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES

Your list is "conveniently" inaccurate. Let me guess your source. University Belt??

Here's the complete list of CHED's Center of Development in Information Technology.

INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
Ateneo de Manila University
East Asia College
Polytechnic University of the Phil.
UP Dil.
Baguio Colleges Foundation
Lorma College
St. Paul University
Angeles University Foundation
University of La Salette
UPLB
Ateneo de Naga University
University of Negros Occidental - Recoletos
Cebu Institute of Technology
dls
Asian Development Foundation
Ateneo de Zamboanga University
Misamis University
Xavier University
Ateneo de Davao University
MSU - Iligan
MSU - Marawi

Source: CHED_CoD (http://stednet.sei.dost.gov.ph/surveys/CHED/CHED_CtrDevelopment_01.htm)

Moon Goddess

Apr 3, 2002, 07:46 AM

This is just an a example why, i think, La Salle's CS is better than Ateneo's.

DLSU beat UP Dil's team in a robo soccer competition. They even won in an Australian competition wherein they competed with foreign universities.

The robots were programmed by La Salle's CS profs and students. Could Ateneo beat that? Even UP cant.

Oh well, you could still brag your debate championships.

Teka, wala pa namang nabibigyan din kase ng CHED center of excellence sa IT. AND hindi lang naman IT ang sukatan ng kagalingan ng CS. Hindi ba?

tesseract

Apr 3, 2002, 07:54 AM

The la salle newsletter says it was people from la salle's engineering, not CS that worked on the robots.

And just because UP was beaten doesn't mean the Ateneo can't beat la salle in robot soccer. Dicto simpliciter.

We don't brag about the debate championships.

And since if IT and CHED aren't good enough sources of credit, then we ought to scrap the use of the fluke 2000 Asiaweek survey as well.

guwapig

Apr 3, 2002, 08:28 AM

I'm an Ateneo CS major (incoming senior), and honestly, I think that DLSU and AdMU CS students have equal competency with regards to the fundamentals of CS.

The reason probably why La Salle fares better in CS is because of: more funding (whilst here I rarely hear of sponsors donating equipment and stuff), the curriculum of Ateneo is diversified in that CS studes here have to divide their time for non-CS subjects which are equally as hard as hell (while I hear from my DLSU friends that even though they're trimestral, they still have lots of time for other things!), and admittedly, AdMU concentrates too much on software engineering and conceptuals that with regards to "ComEng feats" (such as the robot soccer thingies), most AdMU ComSci studes don't probably have an inkling what to do.

But one thing I can say with AdMU's CS: parang "Survivor" din dito. We started out with 40 sa block during freshman year, and now mga 16 na lang kami. The good thing is that many of those who remained have developed very good work ethics that I feel would make us very competent peeps in the real world.

Lek-Lek

Apr 3, 2002, 11:30 AM

Moon Goddess

Apr 5, 2002, 04:09 AM

Fine fine fine.

You never bragged about your debate championships? Sure.

Siguro mali nga ako sa tournament argument ko. Siguro. Sana.
Anyway, totoo pa rin ang last statement ko. I think. Hehehe.

sabi ko nga

"Teka, wala pa namang nabibigyan din kase ng CHED center of excellence sa IT. AND hindi lang naman IT ang sukatan ng kagalingan ng CS. Hindi ba?" Inundermine ko ba ang CHED? Hindi. Nagduda ba ako sa kanila? Hindi rin.

Kayo lang nagsasabi niyan. Kung magkukumpara, hindi magiging punto ang mga bagay na pareho. Kung magkukumpara sa kahit ano pa mang bagay, hindi ba't tinitignan kung ano ang iba sa isa at hindi kung ano ang pinagkapareha nila? Dahil kung parehas lang sila, edi walang lamang sa kanila? Kaya maliban sa CHED center of development, tignan niyo pa yung ibang aspeto.

And sige, mula dito, hindi na ko sisingit sa usapang ito. Hindi sa pikon ako. Pero dahil sa totoo lang, third person point of view lang ang binibigay ko. Siguro mas maganda kung mga CS pips ang mag discuss nito. Tanungin niyo na lang ang mgaa CS niyo at ng La Salle tapos hayaan natin silang mag-usap. Siguro naman mula doon, makikita natin kung may basehan nga ba ang mga argumentong mas magaling ang isa sa isa.

And last question: Bakit ayaw yumuko ng Ateneo?

mac_bolan00

Apr 5, 2002, 04:24 AM

if they admitted to being second fiddle even just once, no one will bother to enroll in their school.

chust keeedddingg!!!!

:D

renina

Apr 6, 2002, 02:51 AM

Ateneo's Computer Science Department (College) has no field of concentrations but, they can take electives like Networking, Web Page Development, etc. unlike La Salle's three major fields Software Technology, Information Technology and do not know the other one.

With regards to quantity, La Salle produces more graduates in the IT field than Ateneo which only numbers from 30 to 50 students in the entire batch.

Java is a popular programming course only taught at the Ateneo de Manila and some small IT institutes like Informatics, etc. I do not know if La Salle introduced Java already as a college subject.

With regards to UP, UST and other schools, I really do not know how they deal with their CS curriculum. I heard UP has also a good, maybe better CS program.

Pepe

Apr 6, 2002, 10:32 AM

Pepe

Apr 6, 2002, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by renina
Ateneo's Computer Science Department (College) has no field of concentrations but, they can take electives like Networking, Web Page Development, etc. unlike La Salle's three major fields Software Technology, Information Technology and do not know the other one.

With regards to quantity, La Salle produces more graduates in the IT field than Ateneo which only numbers from 30 to 50 students in the entire batch.

Java is a popular programming course only taught at the Ateneo de Manila and some small IT institutes like Informatics, etc. I do not know if La Salle introduced Java already as a college subject.

With regards to UP, UST and other schools, I really do not know how they deal with their CS curriculum. I heard UP has also a good, maybe better CS program.

UP Diliman CS program complies with the ACM curriculum. I believe that only UP Diliman REQUIRES Compiler Construction/Design as a core Computer Science course. I have seen an Ateneo CS graduate without Software Engineering course credit and a DLSU graduate without Discrete Math. Hmmm....

As for Java, UP Diliman's Computer Science is a Java Education Center. There are four Sun Certified Java Programmers in their faculty roster with five more getting ready for certification. Four will be certified trainers as well.

^GWAPITO

Apr 6, 2002, 03:15 PM

very gruelling ang cs course ng ateneo than la salle. statistics palang proven na eh. very few lang ang nag gragraduate sa ateneo cs. super hirap kc ng math nila. very math oriented ang cs nila. its to get better problem solving abilities. ang usually naman u cant program sophisticated softwares without good math skills. most ng students there just hope to survive math then the rest is history.

Pepe

Apr 6, 2002, 09:37 PM

Wow! The theoretical aspects of UP Diliman's Computer Science will eat you alive! Imagine --

Math 17 - Algebra and Trigo (5 units)
Math 53-54-55 - Calculus and Analytic Geometry (13 units)
Math 101/Stat 101 - Statistics (3 units)
Math 157 - Discrete Math (3 units)

Add the theoretical CS courses such as
CS131 - Numerical Methods (3 units)
CS133 - Automata Theory and Computability (3 units)
CS130 - Mathematical Methods in Computer Science (3 units)
CS135 - Algorithm Design and Analysis (3 units)

These are required courses along with the following applied CS courses:

CS11/12 - Computer Programming I and II (in C *and* Java)
CS32 - Data Structures
CS21 - Computer Organization and Assembly Language
CS140 - Operating System
CS145 - Networks
CS150 - Programming Languages
CS155 - Compiler Design and Construction
CS165 - Database Systems
CS192 - Software Engineering
CS198 - one year of thesis

With these CS courses you have other required courses such as:

EE8/9 - Digital Circuits
Physics 71/72

And electives such as:

CS120 - Internet Technologies
CS134 - Computational Complexities
CS137 - Computer Algebra
CS160 - File Processing
CS171/172/173/174/175/176
CS180 - AI
CS197 - free elective that ranges from Software Project Management, Java Programming, Mobile and Wireless Computing, Social & Ethical Aspects of Computing (in conjunction with an MIT undergraduate class in the US), Medical Informatics, etc.

Pepe

Apr 6, 2002, 09:38 PM

And oh, I just found out yesterday, only 30% of the batch is graduating this April. Hmmm... wonder what happened to the others...

shad_ma

Apr 7, 2002, 02:31 AM

Let's get to the point. It all boils down to student on whether he/she wants to excel. I'm a CS-CE student in dlsu. I have a friend in Ateneo where he's taking up Applied math with computational science. Did i get this right? Anyway, from the look of things he's concentration is quite different from mine but as i see it. It's equally challenging. =)

cheek

Apr 7, 2002, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by renina
Ateneo's Computer Science Department (College) has no field of concentrations but, they can take electives like Networking, Web Page Development, etc. unlike La Salle's three major fields Software Technology, Information Technology and do not know the other one.

So networking is only an elective in Ateneo. In La Salle's IT, we really have to take that up. We are not limited by our specializations as you might think. Although IT is my specialization, we also take up some subjects in ST and CE.

With regards to quantity, La Salle produces more graduates in the IT field than Ateneo which only numbers from 30 to 50 students in the entire batch.

common sense dictates that indeed la salle would have more graduates since we have 5 blocks specializing in IT. To the person who said that Ateneo's CS is more competitive since they produce fewer graduates, let me remind you that La Salle has 11 blocks while Ateneo has around 2 (excluding MIS of course). Of course, we would have more graduates!

Java is a popular programming course only taught at the Ateneo de Manila and some small IT institutes like Informatics, etc. I do not know if La Salle introduced Java already as a college subject.

ows? talaga? Java is only taught in Ateneo??? How come I took up Java (objectp) in my first year?

I have seen an Ateneo CS graduate without Software Engineering course credit and a DLSU graduate without Discrete Math. Hmmm....

we have discrete math. I took up that subject (Dismath1) last term.

i suggest you get a copy of our flowcharts. kulang ka sa research eh. ciao!

Pepe

Apr 7, 2002, 10:09 PM

Sorry, my mistake - I think it was Algorithms or Automata Theory that was missing from the DLSU curriculum. AFAIK, Ateneo and DLSU graduates do not automatically enter the UP Diliman MSCS programme - they needed to take an extra undergraduate CS course to qualify.

zimdude

Apr 8, 2002, 05:42 AM

but when they graduate - regardless of school - do they get to use what they took up?

:sunnysmile:

nerdox

Apr 8, 2002, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by Pepe
Sorry, my mistake - I think it was Algorithms or Automata Theory that was missing from the DLSU curriculum. AFAIK, Ateneo and DLSU graduates do not automatically enter the UP Diliman MSCS programme - they needed to take an extra undergraduate CS course to qualify.

Err, question lang, ano scope ng course na yun?

nerdox

Apr 8, 2002, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by zimdude
but when they graduate - regardless of school - do they get to use what they took up?

:sunnysmile:

good question... well, i think ok naman yung comsci subjects ng dlsu. Kahit saang specialization ka you get a gist on what the other guys are up to. Like, everyone can program in C and Java, everyone knows what Oracle is and what a carry-look-ahead-adder does. kahit saang field ka ng comsci mapadpad, at least di ka mamumukhang timang. Pero I think basura yung ibang minors at sobra yung math. I dunno, but i'm still figuring out where to apply double and triple integration in a programming task...

nerdox

Apr 8, 2002, 04:44 PM

Question lang: Totoo bang MIS ng ADMU walang programming? Or was it just a cruel joke?

nerdox

Apr 8, 2002, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by Pepe
Wow! The theoretical aspects of UP Diliman's Computer Science will eat you alive! Imagine --

Math 17 - Algebra and Trigo (5 units)
Math 53-54-55 - Calculus and Analytic Geometry (13 units)
Math 101/Stat 101 - Statistics (3 units)
Math 157 - Discrete Math (3 units)

Add the theoretical CS courses such as
CS131 - Numerical Methods (3 units)
CS133 - Automata Theory and Computability (3 units)
CS130 - Mathematical Methods in Computer Science (3 units)
CS135 - Algorithm Design and Analysis (3 units)

These are required courses along with the following applied CS courses:

CS11/12 - Computer Programming I and II (in C *and* Java)
CS32 - Data Structures
CS21 - Computer Organization and Assembly Language
CS140 - Operating System
CS145 - Networks
CS150 - Programming Languages
CS155 - Compiler Design and Construction
CS165 - Database Systems
CS192 - Software Engineering
CS198 - one year of thesis

With these CS courses you have other required courses such as:

EE8/9 - Digital Circuits
Physics 71/72

And electives such as:

CS120 - Internet Technologies
CS134 - Computational Complexities
CS137 - Computer Algebra
CS160 - File Processing
CS171/172/173/174/175/176
CS180 - AI
CS197 - free elective that ranges from Software Project Management, Java Programming, Mobile and Wireless Computing, Social & Ethical Aspects of Computing (in conjunction with an MIT undergraduate class in the US), Medical Informatics, etc.

Aside from the "electives" and theoretical core CS subjects, ALL of what you listed are CORE comsci subjects in DLSU. Meaning all specializations takes them (IT, ST, IST and CE), AND more.

Here are some "specialized" subjects. (All who are taking up the specialization takes these subjects) I'm com-eng so I could name just some of them.

IT: Sytems Analysis and Design
Information Systems

ST: Advanced Database
AI

IST: Multimedia and Web Development

Your "theoretical core CS", I dunno if it translates to just one of our subjects. And all specializations take three "electives". As well as some other minors.

renina

Apr 9, 2002, 02:37 AM

So Java is already taught at La Salle na pala. Kaya I was asking. Sheesh, I was just asking objectively at ang reply may pagka sarcasm pa yata. That's good if Java is also introduced in La Salle already. I wonder if Java has replaced the C or C++ programming in La Salle. Is it? Just asking again.

There is programming in Ateneo in Mgt. Info. Sys. and CS ,of course (Java, C++, Oracle, Unix, etc.).
Networking is also a required course din pala.

In Ateneo, only Computer Science is taught without also limitations in specializations, it's just that walang IT,ST,etc.
Discrete Math is a required course.

There is Physics / Comp. Engineering and Chemistry / Comp. Engineering in Ateneo.

On La Salle:

By the way, can someone from La Salle post the curriculum of these 4 or 5 specializations to clear things up a little bit just like what Pepe did for UP Diliman.

What are their similarities and differences? It used to be three lang yata during the early 90's. 11 blocks na pala now with around how many students by the way? Dami pala.

On UP-Diliman:

How many blocks of Computer Science majors are there? Around how many students per batch? Are there any specializations also like B.S. Computer Science major in Info. Tech. etc.?

soulthird

Apr 9, 2002, 05:00 AM

I am a graduating student from DLSU (IT), and we started out with 10 blocks of 35-40 students each bloc, which gradually went down. We still have 10 blocks but fact is those are not filled up. Through the years I have friends who shifted and transferred schools. The trimestral system for a CompSci degree is tiring, for one you are forced to finish your projects faster than what a semestral system offers, so with that said I would like to clarify what someone said here that we stil have time for other things. I, for one, had to do away with my social life just to get this course done and over with.

DLSU offers 4 specializations (well next year they're offering 2 more)... IT, Soft Tech, Instructional Systems Tech and Comp Eng. Looking at the flowchart all three have the discrete mathematics, linear algebra, Calculus1 to Calculus 4, Statistics, Basic Computer Concepts, ObjectProgramming (Java), Computer Programming (C++ or Pascal, or Linux C, varies from year level to year level), Computer Assembly Language, Theories in Programming (where we are made to pick from a host of lang: Ada, Perl, etc.), Software ENgineering, Database Systems- 3 subjects (Oracle), Network Design and MAnagment, Digital Systems....

in IT the distinguisng courses are Informations Systems 1 & 2, Systems Analysis and Design, Project management, IT E-commerce, Management Concepts, 720 hours of Practicum, and other IT-business subjects.

ST subjects run from Computer Organization, Artificial Intelligence, ... am not really that oriented with it.

ginoledesma

Apr 9, 2002, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by cheek
So networking is only an elective in Ateneo. In La Salle's IT, we really have to take that up. We are not limited by our specializations as you might think. Although IT is my specialization, we also take up some subjects in ST and CE.

I would like to clarify. The Department of Information Systems and Computer Science (http://discs.ateneo.net/) of Ateneo's Loyola Schools has integrated a networking class into its CS program. It is the student's initiative to select key CS electives to form his/her own "specialization". All CS students are required to take up Software Engineering classes, hardware architecture, and the like, as is required by any CS/IT major.

However, I would like to take some time off that I find neither Ateneo nor La Salle's Computer Science tracks to be really true Computer Science. Both school's programs do not have enough theoretical offerings that really is Computer Science. Don't get me wrong, I like the practical [IT] subjects, but to be considered a Computer Scientist is more than just being a programmer, systems admin, or systems developer.

common sense dictates that indeed la salle would have more graduates since we have 5 blocks specializing in IT. To the person who said that Ateneo's CS is more competitive since they produce fewer graduates, let me remind you that La Salle has 11 blocks while Ateneo has around 2 (excluding MIS of course). Of course, we would have more graduates!

Greater number of graduates do not necessarily mean better students. The cap set by the school may be indicative of the maximum number of students it can handle, taking into consideration several factors including student:teacher ratio.

[quote]ows? talaga? Java is only taught in Ateneo??? How come I took up Java (objectp) in my first year?

Ateneo is not the only school that teaches Java anymore, except that it was the first school in the Philippines to adapt Java as an introductory language for the CS program. However, I would like to point out that Mapua and UP are the only schools in the Philippines recognized as Java excellence centers or Java center of competency (or something like that).

ginoledesma

Apr 9, 2002, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by Moon Goddess
This is just an a example why, i think, La Salle's CS is better than Ateneo's.

DLSU beat UP Dil's team in a robo soccer competition. They even won in an Australian competition wherein they competed with foreign universities.

The robots were programmed by La Salle's CS profs and students. Could Ateneo beat that? Even UP cant.

Oh well, you could still brag your debate championships.

Teka, wala pa namang nabibigyan din kase ng CHED center of excellence sa IT. AND hindi lang naman IT ang sukatan ng kagalingan ng CS. Hindi ba?

I'd really like to know what we all think of "better" as. Better as in producing a higher ratio of excellent students per batch, and by excellent meaning holding key positions in certain companies? Better as in producing top-notch graduates who are easily pulled in by companies easily? What?

Ateneo and other schools have their fair share of bragging rights when it comes to competitions as well. Ateneo has proven itself worthy in DLSU's Battle of the Brains (of which it has been the champion 2 years in a row, now). It has also bested other schools in UP's Programming Competition (which sadly was cancelled this year). Also, in the past, Ateneo bested all other schools in Trend Micro's competition, of which the winning team won 1 Million pesos. DLSU's team won 2nd, and one of UP Diliman's team managed to place 3rd, I believe. Ateneo's team also recently beat out all other teams in Microsoft's .NET competition. UA&P was also the only school in the Philippines to receive an honorable mention award in ACM's 2001 competition. And to dwell on the faculty, Dr. John Paul Vergara, outgoing chairman of the Ateneo CS department, was awarded the NAST 2001 Outstanding Young Scientist Award in the fields of computer science and applications. And if I recall correctly, UP Diliman managed to win an international competition in Australia(?) recently.

Teka, wala pa namang nabibigyan din kase ng CHED center of excellence sa IT. AND hindi lang naman IT ang sukatan ng kagalingan ng CS. Hindi ba?

I agree with this. IT != CS.

cheek

Apr 9, 2002, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by ginoledesma

I would like to clarify. The Department of Information Systems and Computer Science (http://discs.ateneo.net/) of Ateneo's Loyola Schools has integrated a networking class into its CS program. It is the student's initiative to select key CS electives to form his/her own "specialization". All CS students are required to take up Software Engineering classes, hardware architecture, and the like, as is required by any CS/IT major.

to tell you frankly, i am not an expert on Ateneo's curriculum. A person in this thread said that networking is just an elective so I believed that person. My apologies.

However, I would like to take some time off that I find neither Ateneo nor La Salle's Computer Science tracks to be really true Computer Science. Both school's programs do not have enough theoretical offerings that really is Computer Science. Don't get me wrong, I like the practical [IT] subjects, but to be considered a Computer Scientist is more than just being a programmer, systems admin, or systems developer.

true. i guess both of these schools are just focusing on what's practical. it is up to the students to pursue further studies if they want to learn hard-core computer science stuff.

Greater number of graduates do not necessarily mean better students. The cap set by the school may be indicative of the maximum number of students it can handle, taking into consideration several factors including student:teacher ratio.

you misinterpreted me. i was merely reacting to a post stating that Ateneo's curriculum is more competitive since they produce fewer graduates. i was only pointing out that of course la salle would have more graduates since they have more students (duh! common sense). What I'm trying to say is that it is unfair to judge which school is more competitive based on the number of graduates it produces since the starting population of the two schools are very very different. And I am definitely NOT saying that more graduates mean better students. I don't believe that quantity = quality.

nerdox

Apr 9, 2002, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by renina
So Java is already taught at La Salle na pala. Kaya I was asking. Sheesh, I was just asking objectively at ang reply may pagka sarcasm pa yata. That's good if Java is also introduced in La Salle already. I wonder if Java has replaced the C or C++ programming in La Salle. Is it? Just asking again.
Nope. C is still the introductory programming language. Java is taught to focus on object orientation of the language.

In Ateneo, only Computer Science is taught without also limitations in specializations, it's just that walang IT,ST,etc.
Discrete Math is a required course.
I don't think having specializations is a "limitation". As I've said in my previous post, CS of UP more or less forms the core subjects. You specialize to be an "expert" in a certain field, but it doesn't mean you're deficient on other fields. Nasa sa tao na lang kung gusto pa niya mag-pursue ng other specialiations.

On La Salle:

By the way, can someone from La Salle post the curriculum of these 4 or 5 specializations to clear things up a little bit just like what Pepe did for UP Diliman.

What are their similarities and differences? It used to be three lang yata during the early 90's. 11 blocks na pala now with around how many students by the way? Dami pala.

Computer Engineering:

Aside from the core subjects, well a lot of Electronics, both theoretical and applied. (Basic, Linear, Communications) Microprocessors, and Computer Organization and Architecture. Choose 4 Electives: Microcontrollers (HC11 and PICmicro, though lower batches hindi na elective ang HC11), Digital Signal Processing, Speech Processing, Special Topics on Applied Electronics, Interfacing Peripherals. 20 from every batch gets to take 12 units of CISCO Networking Program instead of the electives.

Pepe

Apr 9, 2002, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by renina
On UP-Diliman:

How many blocks of Computer Science majors are there? Around how many students per batch? Are there any specializations also like B.S. Computer Science major in Info. Tech. etc.?

4 blocks of 30 students each - plus the second semester shiftees. Only around 50 are graduating this April.

NO, no majors in UP Diliman.

nerdox

Apr 9, 2002, 11:03 AM

Double

Pepe

Apr 9, 2002, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by ginoledesma
Ateneo and other schools have their fair share of bragging rights when it comes to competitions as well. Ateneo has proven itself worthy in DLSU's Battle of the Brains (of which it has been the champion 2 years in a row, now). It has also bested other schools in UP's Programming Competition (which sadly was cancelled this year). Also, in the past, Ateneo bested all other

The reason why the programming competition was cancelled was due to technical difficulties -- difficulties on the part of the student organization handling the event.

schools in Trend Micro's competition, of which the winning team won 1 Million pesos. DLSU's team won 2nd, and one of UP Diliman's team managed to place 3rd, I believe. Ateneo's team

On the part of UP Diliman - it was a sad experience - the students who represented UP Diliman were... never mind.

And to dwell on the faculty, Dr. John Paul Vergara, outgoing chairman of the Ateneo CS department, was awarded the NAST 2001 Outstanding Young Scientist Award in the fields of computer science and applications. And if I recall correctly, UP Diliman

After Dr. Mark Encarnacion of UP Diliman's Computer Science won it the previous year, I believe.

managed to win an international competition in Australia(?) recently.

Hmm - not true. It might be the Robot Soccer competition in Australia that was spearheaded by Prof. Pros Naval of UP, who is now in Singapore pursuing his PhD.

nerdox

Apr 9, 2002, 11:17 AM