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Zenithleng
Dec 29, 2001, 07:49 PM
In what ways do your institutions show they support these organizations?

Some schools call them cultural arts clubs, or the ones that feature dance groups - modern or folk, choir/chorale groups, theatre organizations or dramatic club, visual arts club,... etc.

What incentives do your school give the members and trainors? Does your school ask a certain fee from the students to finance these organizations?

pyket
Dec 31, 2001, 10:49 PM
i would wager to say that the progression of this thread is an example of the support given to artistic/performing arts organizations from the academic world here in the philippines. i.e., walang pumapansin...

we're merely dismissed as an nonvital entity. i don't really know why, but i'd guess that they think the performing arts aren't REAL "academic" subjects even though they carry theatre arts courses in their own college programs. old school thinking's all i can say.

they can't even provide us with a storeroom of our own, yet they continually call to our attention the "stuff" that we have strewn about "our" (not even technically our) theatre and org room. hay naku, the hostility of administration people to the arts!!!! (mas trip talaga nila yung mga social/business orgs... grabe na ang preferential treatment.)

Zenithleng
Jan 2, 2002, 06:46 AM
Wow at last!! Someone bothered to post a reply!! :bounce:

I think I cannot agree with you more on that point, pyket.

Somehow some institutions have this impression that organizations such as glee clubs, theatre, dance groups and the like, are composed of students who while away their time.

Nevermind that when there is an interschool competition, the orgs carry the school name. Nevermind that during these competitions the orgs can bring prestige to the school; that the members of these organizations can also be student leaders. Nevermind that the students exert the effort to rediscover the cultural, as well as, explore modern art.

I guess the reason even some of our peers overlook these efforts is because they couldn't care less. What's it to them? They would think, right?

Non-academic organizations aim to enrich the students perspective in life besides the four walls of the classroom. It is in these organizations we learn about working with a team, respecting each others views, considering that our way isn't the only way, and accepting that there are others who are better, others who can teach us and share insights. We can grow here.

Performing arts organizations instill discipline and nurture creativity. It is an outlet for the students.

But how can talents be harnessed when the institution and the people (students and teachers) within it themselves lack enthusiasm?

pyket
Jan 2, 2002, 12:09 PM
as apparent with the volume of people visiting the thread, kaunti lang siguro ang interesado sa kapakanan ng mga performing arts orgs sa mga colleges... either that or wala lang talaga silang alam (nag-u-usyoso lang kumbaga).

mac_bolan00
Jan 2, 2002, 05:03 PM
i thought the performing arts sector in UP was well-supported. but then, the "support" wasn't what you'd expect. i used to patronize the performing arts.

Zenithleng
Jan 3, 2002, 08:49 AM
Why say you "used to patronize" mac_bolan00? how well supported do you think is the performing arts group of UP then?

mac_bolan00
Jan 3, 2002, 08:32 PM
hardly enough time to go to the theater these days. i can still rattle off the plays and musicals i attended at UP:

peer gynt (starring roderick paulate & jonas sebastian)
doll house (starring susan valdez)
idolong romantico (starring chris michelena)
marat sade
hair
sleep of prisoners (UPCYM production)
prism (UPCYM)
you're a good man, charlie brown (UPCYM)
largo desolato (starring jonas sebastian)
romeo & juliet (starring tess dumpit)
1896 (PETA)
various impromptus around campus

after college, our sister used to take us to the ballet. i remember her to be very picky (we tended to favor the PBT back then with lisa macuja & osias barosso). i thought anna villadolid was our best ballerina ever.

i watched the bolshoi and some kirov artists. then, there were all kinds of plays and recitals by guys like cabahug (the dequadine guy), nomer son, coke bolipata and g.l. cabayao. oh yes, we watched rigoletto with tossi poleri (hopyang di mabile!!!)

bravo!
brava!

Zenithleng
Jan 3, 2002, 08:52 PM
What have you learned from all of your arts exporsures? Do you think university or other institutional organizations truly receive the support they deserved?

I appreciate you seeing these productions because not many of us get the chance to do so (including me :)!). My inquiry has more to do with the action taken by the institution to demonstrate they encourage students in exploring their talents in the arts.

mac_bolan00
Jan 3, 2002, 09:18 PM
well, young people go to universities to learn about life in a formal way. if that university cannot offer all there is to learn, how can it be a university? the UP offering is far from being complete but you see an honest effort to support all aspects of learning. you can even study to be an enemy of the state but don't expect a formal curriculum for that one. the mere fact that UP has several working theater and production facilities, in addition to having supporting courses, should already answer your question.

UST_BOY
Jan 3, 2002, 10:17 PM
UST SUPPORTS THE ARTS! Yung Teatro Tomasino etc. Thomasians are versatile in the arts.

Zenithleng
Jan 4, 2002, 02:41 AM
How UST_BOY?

Do students who join these organizations in UP have incentives mac_bolan00? or do they join these organization simply because they have the passion for the arts? The effort of UP is undeniably notable.

Going back to my opening post, are you people aware of any fees that you may be paying to finance these organizations as assigned by the school administration? and also based on mac_bolan00's entries, are there other special programs and academic programs being offered in your school?

Can you suggest courses of action to boost the morale of the members of these organizations? An activity that can keep them going in training themselves.

mac_bolan00
Jan 4, 2002, 07:31 PM
no incentives, i suppose. just the passion. my original statement holds: as long as the university provides a venue (no matter how rudimentary) for a student to pursue his/her passion, it is definitely supportive.

if ever the UP student shoulders part of the cost to maintain theaters and cost of production, it's probabaly submerged together with the other tuition charges. the special programs i mentions are your basic courses related to the perfoming arts: english literature, sociology, european languages, humanities, music, theater arts, etc.

i can't think of any positive courses of action to further energize this sector. you might want to talk to the students and faculty members themselves: chris vertido, tony mabesa, antoinette bas-hernandez, edru abraham, tess dumpit-michelena, sylvia garde, jonas sebastian, to name a few.

Zenithleng
Jan 5, 2002, 06:34 PM
thanks mac_bolan00. :)