You can't call urself a true college student if u've never been in a protest rally.

[reykjavik]

True or false?

At uni this girl was trying to get ppl to participate in a rally and she said that. Do you think it holds much truth?

We all know the role protest rallies have played in the history and college students had a big role in a lot of the changes that happened: the 1960's was the big daddy of them all, there was also Suharto and Estrada stepping down amongst other things.

Is the point of university just purely to learn enough skills to be employed or to think for yourself?

[purple_madness]

what kind of logic is that?

why did i even bother posting?
:rolleyes:
rey ikaw ba yan?!?

[dudelish]

oh i'm sorry, i thought i went to college to study, to have a better career... and here i was trying to graduate when all these rallies are around us.

oh yes, harvard students are not really college students because they don't engage in flag and effigy burnings. oh yeah, and cambridge? they're actually highschool students studying the macroeconomic model of the united states and it's surrounding territories, and it's impact on the global economy. they're not really college students because they can't come up with a cute slogan to chant while slowly rocking the institutions.

if you stand up for what you believe in then good for you. congratulations, you are an adult. pero if you're joining rallies just because you want to experience it for yourself, just because it's hip and cool to be in those pictures 20 yrs later, that is so pathetic.

whoever said that was probably feeling desperate that she had to resort to mockery. sad.

[thehitman]

And what, pray tell, is the logic of that statement? I survived more than 4 years of college, living by my wits, and never joined a protest rally, and I'm not a college student? :rolleyes:

:cool:

[dudelish]

lemme guess... the person who said that was one of those student council people, na masyadong nagfe-feeling importante, na feeling socially involved, na may cellphone na maraming kulay, na may organizer, na nag-papaka PR lang kapag campaign period, na kasali dun sa mga student council people na may sariling mundo, may sariling palakpak, may sariling national anthem.

sheesh. stay away from those types of people. they turn out to be politicians.

[Lord_Stephen]

Sabi nga sa isang dula na pinakamagatang "Sigwa"

"kapag labing-walo ka at hindi ka aktibista- wala kang puso. Ngunit pag talumpung taon kana at aktibista wala kang utak!"

that's true. At least oncee in a lifetime do something that can make a mark!

[Whirrled]

brownpau: shouldn't be this in one of the School related foras?

:)

[Sacrosanct]

Originally posted by reykjavik

Is the point of university just purely to learn enough skills to be employed or to think for yourself?

both. what makes them think joining rallies show that they think for themselves? say it altogether everyone... "BAAAAAAA!"

[reykjavik]

lemme guess... the person who said that was one of those student council people, na masyadong nagfe-feeling importante, na feeling socially involved, na may cellphone na maraming kulay, na may organizer, na nag-papaka PR lang kapag campaign period, na kasali dun sa mga student council people na may sariling mundo, may sariling palakpak, may sariling national anthem.

Actually, I think you're quite right with that assessment!:D


And what, pray tell, is the logic of that statement? I survived more than 4 years of college, living by my wits, and never joined a protest rally, and I'm not a college student?

Granted, she might have gone over the top with that statement but I think her point was, although I don't necessarily agree, part of being a college student is doing things you wouldn't normally do being away from your parents and teachers who want you to act a certain way. And if that means joining a protest march bec. it's something you think is right not bec. you'll show up quite well in those photos years later, then so be it.


Oh, yeah to the mods: paki lipat na lang if this is in the wrong forum.

[tabachuchuy]

... baka she meant UP student? (sorry guys, UP or nothing! he-he-he)

the statement the girl uttered is not true (we all agree on that) but she's good. i think she has achieved her objective: to convince some students to join the rally. it's not technically a 'bandwagon' propaganda pero it would have garnered some positive (and negative) response from students.

or she could have meant: your college days is almost not complete without joining a protest rally. parang your college days is not complete without witnessing the Oblation Run
:D . or without cheering in the UAAP. ito yong mga masasayang memories one can store and fondly remember about college days....

[tabachuchuy]

... sorry. double post po. :zzz:

[tabachuchuy]

Originally posted by reykjavik
Is the point of university just purely to learn enough skills to be employed or to think for yourself?

both plus:

to have fun while learning. (FUN, FUN, FUN....)
to meet new friends.
to gather experiences in and out of the classroom.
to be a politically-conscious, socially active, psychologically matured.
etc. etc.
:bounce2:

[brownpau]

Originally posted by Whirrled
brownpau: shouldn't be this in one of the School related foras?
Yah, yah! Moving to Academe forum now...

[BadGiRL]

False!

I've never been to one. I've never found any rally worth the effort....yet.

My reason being, bakit ba, pag balik ko ba galing sa rally gaganda na buhay ko? E kung mag aral nalang kaya ako sa school at may matutunan pa ako!?

reykjavik: Lucky no one was stupide enough to use that line with me when they are trying to get me to join all those stupid rallies made popular by the communists, church and civil society.

[BadGiRL]

False!

I've never been to one. I've never found any rally worth the effort....yet.

My reason being, bakit ba, pag balik ko ba galing sa rally gaganda na buhay ko? E kung mag aral nalang kaya ako sa school at may matutunan pa ako!?

reykjavik: Lucky no one was stupid enough to use that line with me when they are trying to get me to join all those stupid rallies made popular by the communists, church and civil society.

[reykjavik]

Originally posted by BadGiRL
False!

I've never been to one. I've never found any rally worth the effort....yet.

My reason being, bakit ba, pag balik ko ba galing sa rally gaganda na buhay ko? E kung mag aral nalang kaya ako sa school at may matutunan pa ako!?


True. .Joining a rally won't immediately change your circumstances but at least it will show the powers that be that you do care about the issues and that you are willing to take action if need be. In this instance, the rally was, as I recall, about the issue of refugees in detention centers (this was in Australia). It might have seemed irrelevant to some ppl. but to those who experienced being refugees it was quite important.

At any rate I don't think the statement was meant to be taken literally. Of course, as soon as you get to college you are considered a college student. But like tabachuchuy said, it one of those things you are bound to see or experience while in college.

[BadGiRL]

Maybe in countries abroad rallies might work. Sa Pilipinas talaga tingin mo they work? However nice the intention, if it doesn't serve the political purpose of some, walang mangyayari. :rolleyes:

To each his own. That's the way I see it.

[soulthird]

if I don't join a protest it doesn't mean I am apathetic towards what is happening around. There are other ways that I can take action. Not all of us believe that a rally is teh best way to go.

[xou]

sa UP dati yung naaalala kong pangasar palagi is 'don't be sosy, join the rally'. and yes, those who don't join the rally were branded as apathetic people (lalo na kaming mga taga-BA)

[Allan]

Well I think that is one part. I believe that A colllege student should be mature enough and be aware and feel responsible for what ever is happening here in our country especially when it concerns the future ( economy, security) of the country.

I went to Edsa 2....

[reykjavik]

Well I think that is one part. I believe that A colllege student should be mature enough and be aware and feel responsible for what ever is happening here in our country especially when it concerns the future ( economy, security) of the country.
I went to Edsa 2...

True. It's not just about learning to make money but learning to be socially aware. Even at school, we used to have social outreach programs. You could see first hand the inequities in our society. Plus we got to know these ppl. even just for a day.

I think bec. universities are the seat of knowledge (you won't find it anywhere else...not even in gov't. hehehehe), it would be logical that a lot of the opposition should come from this sector.

[pyket]

false. that's too shallow a definition of the pursuits and meaning of a college education --- too limiting and superficial to be credible. a college education isn't necessarily about going against the status quo or the norm. it isn't necessarily about political activism. it's about finding one's self and one's niche in society. it's about learning rights and wrongs, possibilities and limitations. it's about setting guiding philosophies in life. it isn't about going against something for the sake of going against some superstructure. it takes more guts to stand by what one personally believes in rather than to be swept by the persuasive "majority." others may disagree with you, for one reason or another, but it takes a strong sense of will and resolve to stick by your guns. and that's what sets aside the "true" college student from the others.

[PennyLane]

Not true!!!

As long as you get to experience the things that comes along with college life, then that's it. Going to protest rallies does'nt go in the equation.

[thehitman]

Originally posted by reykjavik

Granted, she might have gone over the top with that statement but I think her point was, although I don't necessarily agree, part of being a college student is doing things you wouldn't normally do being away from your parents and teachers who want you to act a certain way. And if that means joining a protest march bec. it's something you think is right not bec. you'll show up quite well in those photos years later, then so be it.


She brought up an interesting point. However, joining certain clubs or organizations can accomplish this. In my case, I joined a Catholic group while in college. It wasn't something dictated by my teachers nor encouraged by my parents. That was purely my decision.

Besides, just because you participate in a rally does not always mean you believe in what that particular rally is crying out for. You could be there for the free food, or for the company of your friends, or for the attention of the cute protest leader, etc. During the Marcha days, when Cory and Sin were rallying the people to oppose the charter change proposal of Ramos, I did not join the rally. However, I understood what they were fighting for, I believed in what they were fighting for, and I supported what they were fighting for. In college, people teach you to think for yourself. And I learned. In my book, that makes me a true college student.


:cool:

[DarthScully]

false

[gpov]

False, going to a rally does not make you a true college student.

Attending an event Not necessarily a rally on an issue which you believe in makes you a genuine person. A person who is true to his/her beliefs.

Some peopledon't attend rallies but they contribute their time in community work.

Be true to yourself.

[shadowboxer]

hmmmm... not entirely so.

but then again, in my school's case, we really can't voice out EVERYTHING we want the administration as well as the whole studentry to be heard. we're expected to make good grades & keep up with campus issues but the system is just too dull for inspiration/motivation/growth. it's all bullshyt. even the people I have to personally put up with... ack. even at home, my supposedly support system.

with that in mind, I don't really feel like I'm already in college. ugh. with protest rallies or none whatsoever. :disgust:

:yuck:

[livid]

:mrt:

FALSE

You don't go to rallies just because your friends or classmates go. Nonetheless, nothing wrong with joining, in fact admirable sometimes, only if you share the cause of what they are rallying for.

[clawed_out]

where'd you get that logic?

can you have the actual or atleast estimated percentage of your successful welgas/ rallies?

in the philippine scenario, kahit anong gawing mong dakdak sa labas ng building eh walang mangyayari unless na may power ka (in which most of the protesters doesnt have, they just joined because they are required to, their friends are in it, the list goes on..), the concerned wont even go out & meet with the protesters (well in most cases)

[go_figure]

false. you dont go to rallies just so you can say that you truly are a college student. you join rallies because you believe in the cause, because you believe that you have to make a stand. :)

[* tinny gUrL *]

talaga:?: eh di fake pala ako... :glee:

peace *peace*

[flounder]

FALSE!

i have never joined a rally, and i don't i will until i graduate. it's not that i am apathetic or anything... it's just that a rally is not the only means of fighting for what you believe in...