Who's better: 5-peat Baste vs 4-peat USTe

[bayaw]

Two college teams lorded it over their respective leagues during the 1990's - UST in the UAAP and San Sebastian in the NCAA. The 4-time champs UST had Espino, Cantonjos, Singson, & Co., while the 5-time winners Baste had Adducul, Rodney Santos, Brixter Encarnacion, etc. Who's the real college champs of the 90's?

[stanch]

***** yung baste team kasi *** 5-peat against only 4-peat of uste e. make sense di ba? tapos whenever there's a battle of the champions, i heard baste ang laging nananalo over uste.

[jack]

I could say baste was better at that time in terms of records and wins against UST. The main strenght kasi ng baste was that they have an intact line-up almost all throughout. Every year iba-iba ang star player ng UST( may grumadate then the protege will lead) and still they manage to win 4 straight. In terms of wins, baste but in terms of talents produced in that span i could say uste.

[jack]

I could say baste was better at that time in terms of records and wins against UST. The main strenght kasi ng baste was that they have an intact line-up almost all throughout. Every year iba-iba ang star player ng UST( may grumadate then the protege will lead) and still they manage to win 4 straight. In terms of wins, baste but in terms of talents produced in that span i could say uste. If you combine the best of the baste players in that span and play against the best Uste players in that span, i think hands down mananalo ang UST. (Adducul, Encarnacion, Ocampo, Calpito vs. David, Espino, Cantonjos, Singson)

[BatangNC]

SSC and UST both deserve recognition as College Dynasties. Both teams dominated the field and showed talent and class all the way.

[baste]

I could say UST is better, because in their 4 peat they had different players meaning that their team was deeper, and considering the degree of competition, for me the UAAP is more competitive and more abundant in talented players and teams, UST is Better

[RiDeR]

akala ko baste, sa san sebastian ka kakampi kasi pareho kayong "baste" eh.

[Braveheart]

ust's 4-year championship run is one less than ssc's but we gotta remember that there is stronger competition in the uaap...
the tigers which swept the 1993 uaap season is considered as probably the strongest collegiate team of all time...in the battle of champions, ust easily defeated baste in 1994 and 1995..but the tigers lost in mcdonalds cup in 1996... i think ssc is stronger in the latter part of the 90s when rommel adducul remained in the team while the likes of espino and evangelista enlisted in the pba

[Bac_Attack]

I'd have to agree and emphasize the fact that the level of competition was and still is much higher in the UAAP than in the NCAA. Therefore, my vote would definitely go to UST. The sweep in 1993 and 3 consecutive wins over powerhouse La Salle is definitely a bigger accomplishment.

[THE MASKS]

Who's better??!!
Look where the Baste players are now, and the Uste players now. Only Dale is in the MBA, the rest in PBA.
One more thing, mas balanced at mas malalakas ang teams sa UAAP than NCAA.
When Baste was up there, may mabigat ba silang kalaban ?? May kalaban pero hindi gatsbi. Sa UAAP, lagi.

[Johnston]

*bump*

[bedistang_tunay]

uaap... can't say more than hype. ;)

[jmmdg]

5>4 ano ba ang pinagtatalunan dito!!!
hindi sila naka 5peat!!! samething with DLSU!!!

[Blue Knight]

UST

hindi usapin dito kung ilan nakuhang championship...but kung gaano kahirap at gaano kalakas ang kalaban plus yung pag palit palit ng players nila every year pero andun pa rin yung lakas ng team.

yes indeed kasama yung dami ng championship which is 5 pero hindi lang yun ang dapat pag basehan.
nakita niyo ba kung gaano kalakas ang DLSU na may Lago brothers at maui roca, telan, webb at tyrone bautista ? isama mo na rin si chris tan na 3point specialist.
napanood nyo ba yung last free throw ni bal david na sumisigaw ng "IPASOK NYO LORD!" habang ang lahat ng tao nasa loob ng araneta maging tomasino o lasalista eh nakatayo at pigil hininga dahil sa 1 point lang ang lamang ng DLSU ? yung ibang Lasalle na umiiyak dahil hawak hawak ang rosaryo at mga bibliya na nagdarasal na naka pikit maging ito man ay studyante at magulang ? sino makaka limot noon ?
sino ang makakapagsabi na madali kumuha ng championship na umabot ng ilang beses na overtime sa isang serye ?
sino makakalimot sa mga lasalistang umiiyak dahil nawala sa kamay nila ang mithiing kampeonato ?
malakas ang la salle kumpara sa nakalaban ng baste sa kanilang championship. ilang beses umiyak ang lasalle sa Ust dahil tinalo nila ito. masama sa kanila ito lalo na nung lumabas at kumalat yung slogan na "WHEN WILL YOU EVER LEARN?" na may tigre at kagatkagat ang nabaling pana ng archer.
isang bese lang tinalo ng la salle ang uste sa championship mula noon at yun ay kapanahunan pa ni gerard francisco na isang rookie mula sa UST cubs.
sino ba makakalimot kay Henry Ong na kung bumato ng 3 point eh napakalayo sa professional mark ?

kakaiba ang championship na 4 ng UST dahil walang katulad kung kumpara sa 5 ng baste.
panoorin niyo at masdan niyo ang mga kilos lahat ng manonood.

[charmingmelissa]

dude you really have issues about baste! why do you keep on trying to ruin ssc' s reputation?I don't want to be rude to you or something but its just that I can't help noticing that you are really trying to point out that baste was'nt all that!!! hope you will soon realize that you should stop hating and start to appreciate..maybe someday your dream will come true,maybe your dream of letran becoming a champion will happen.But for now you should learn to accept that they are not champion material im sorry but thats the truth:( its still ssc's time to shine,they ruled in the last decade and it seems that they still rules!

[charmingmelissa]

dude you really have issues about baste! why do you keep on trying to ruin ssc' s reputation?I don't want to be rude to you or something but its just that I can't help noticing that you are really trying to point out that baste was'nt all that!!! hope you will soon realize that you should stop hating and start to appreciate..maybe someday your dream will come true,maybe your dream of letran becoming a champion will happen.But for now you should learn to accept that they are not champion material im sorry but thats the truth:( its still ssc's time to shine,they ruled in the last decade and it seems that they rules!

[Blue Knight]

Originally posted by charmingmelissa
dude you really have issues about baste! why do you keep on trying to ruin ssc' s reputation?I don't want to be rude to you or something but its just that I can't help noticing that you are really trying to point out that baste was'nt all that!!! hope you will soon realize that you should stop hating and start to appreciate..maybe someday your dream will come true,maybe your dream of letran becoming a champion will happen.But for now you should learn to accept that they are not champion material im sorry but thats the truth:( its still ssc's time to shine,they ruled in the last decade and it seems that they rules!


please know how to analyze the game. could you please read again the topic?

emotions pinaiiral eh.

[<@FrEaKy BoI@>]

Originally posted by jmmdg
5>4 ano ba ang pinagtatalunan dito!!!
hindi sila naka 5peat!!! samething with DLSU!!!

E kuNg iLAbAn Mo YAng BAstE Sa LA SaLLe DAti... Sa TinGIn Mo GAnUn PARin Ang KAkAlABAsaN? baka 0 pa yan....:cool: :rolleyes:

[NCAA HERO]

i think UST... its not all about numbers... but baste is good! pero compare it during the time na nag 4peat ang ust at 5peat ang baste.. i think UST talaga...

pero between NCAA and UAAP.. i beg to disagree na mas ok ang UAAP... like what i always say...

UAAP is and will always be a shadow of NCAA...

[charmingmelissa]

Originally posted by Blue Knight
please know how to analyze the game. could you please read again the topic?

emotions pinaiiral eh.

look who's talking now about being emotional!hello??? I think you should be the one to read what the topic is all about...are'nt you the one who posted in here how the lasalista's cried everytime they lost against uste???and that they have rosaries and bibles in their hands hoping to win??? who cares about that:D seriously we should all be proud that baste had five championships and that teams in the UAAP don't have that..You are trying to make it sound that NCAA teams are not competetive enough,if you think uste is better than baste at that time how come baste always win in the battle of the champions?they are both good the only difference was baste have 5 championship titles and they only got 4;)

[councilor]

Originally posted by <@FrEaKy BoI@>
E kuNg iLAbAn Mo YAng BAstE Sa LA SaLLe DAti... Sa TinGIn Mo GAnUn PARin Ang KAkAlABAsaN? baka 0 pa yan....:cool: :rolleyes:

REMEMBER STAGS FIRST FIVE DURING THE 90'S

ADDUCUL - PBA ALLSTAR
CALPITO - PBA PLAYER
ENCARNACION - FORMER PBA PLAYER
SANTOS - PBA PLAYER
TANIGUE - FORMER PBA PLAYER

BENCH

OCAMPO - FORMER PBA PLAYER
DAEP - FORMER PBA PLAYER
BASILIDES - EX MBA, CURRENT PBL
BARBOSA - PBL PLAYER
MACAPAGAL - PBL PLAYER
SE - PBA PLAYER
ROBINSON - PBL PLAYER


WHERE ARE THE PLAYERS OF LA SALLE NOW LIKE
BAUTISTA, LAGO BROTHERS, ROCA,TELAN

KAHIT ANONG SCHOOL PA ANG ITAPAT MO SA LINE UP NA YAN!!!

[Shelly_rush]

There's really no point in comparing this two!

They're of different league and different gravity. Kaya nga pinaghiwalay yung thread and UAAP at NCAA eh.

Your defeating the purpose!

[Blue Knight]

Originally posted by charmingmelissa
look who's talking now about being emotional!hello??? I think you should be the one to read what the topic is all about...are'nt you the one who posted in here how the lasalista's cried everytime they lost against uste???and that they have rosaries and bibles in their hands hoping to win??? who cares about that:D seriously we should all be proud that baste had five championships and that teams in the UAAP don't have that..You are trying to make it sound that NCAA teams are not competetive enough,if you think uste is better than baste at that time how come baste always win in the battle of the champions?they are both good the only difference was baste have 5 championship titles and they only got 4;)

tsk tsk..haynaku !
hirap talaga mag explain lalo na kung sarado ang isip> sabagay LOVE YOUR OWN diba ?

Im not saying that UAAP is better than NCAA ! ano bang pag iisip yan ?
ganyan ka ba mag analyze ng game ? Ilang taon ka na ba nanonood ng basketball ? Baka si Eugene Quilban hindi mo pa kilala at kung ano jersey number niya.

Check mo ilang nasa Pro ang Baste players na talagang naglalaro at hindi bangko ?

Yes, malakas ang Baste kung yan ang punto mo pero ang topic na binuksan dito Who is better: 5 peat ng baste o yung 4 peat ng uste.
gets ?

[charmingmelissa]

alright,alright I know your hecca old and I don't want you to get sick over me!!! just chill out, don't take it too personally:)

[Blue Knight]

Originally posted by charmingmelissa
alright,alright I know your hecca old and I don't want you to get sick over me!!! just chill out, don't take it too personally:)

hehehe..sino ba nagsasabing i took it personally ? hahahahaha
kitams , ikaw lang nag iisip niyan. :yum:

im not that old.....pero i know what is basketball all about and not just blabbing and making yakitty yak. masama yang know it all poseur.

[emzan]

MAKA LIMA MUNA KAYO... BAGO NATIN PAGTALUNAN ITO.
YUNG MGA PLAYER NG LA SALLE BANTAYAN NYO BAKA MAGAYA KAY LIMPOT AT LOCSIN...

CAN YOU BEAT THAT...

[charmingmelissa]

Originally posted by Blue Knight
hehehe..sino ba nagsasabing i took it personally ? hahahahaha
kitams , ikaw lang nag iisip niyan. :yum:

im not that old.....pero i know what is basketball all about and not just blabbing and making yakitty yak. masama yang know it all poseur.


ayt ayt.I feel you:rolleyes: I know that you know everything there is to know about basketball.:rolleyes:

[charmingmelissa]

Originally posted by emzan
MAKA LIMA MUNA KAYO... BAGO NATIN PAGTALUNAN ITO.
YUNG MGA PLAYER NG LA SALLE BANTAYAN NYO BAKA MAGAYA KAY LIMPOT AT LOCSIN...

CAN YOU BEAT THAT...

Thank God!!! atleast now I know that there is someone in here who knows what he's talking about...I AGREE with everything you said:)

[Blue Knight]

hehehehe....parang ikaw lang yata ang hindi nakahalata na from baste din yun nag post niyan.
diba mas ok kung ur not from that skul tapos bigay ka opinion para hindi one sided ang resulta ?

wake up melissaaaaahhhhh !!!!!

[Blue Knight]

Originally posted by emzan
MAKA LIMA MUNA KAYO... BAGO NATIN PAGTALUNAN ITO.
YUNG MGA PLAYER NG LA SALLE BANTAYAN NYO BAKA MAGAYA KAY LIMPOT AT LOCSIN...

CAN YOU BEAT THAT...


hmmm........i'm not a lasallian nor benildean pero alam mo bang si Limpot and Locsin nasama sa RP Team to represent the Phil sa Asiad before ?

Alam mo din ba na yung "main man" na sinasabi mo eh scorer sa Sta Lucia before ? Alam mo ba na si "Tank" eh naging heart and soul ng Ginebra ? Meaning may napatunayan na sila.

I admire Rodney Santos kase down to earth at mahusay talaga.

Alam mo din ba na si Adducul ngayon eh hirap maka score ? Nasaan nga pala si Tanigue na magaling na point guard ng baste ? Si Ocampo na dating pointguard asana ?

Alam mo bang si Dale Singson na nabanggit sa taas eh sinabing nasa MBA lang ? diba nasa Shell na siya ngayon ?

Ang question dito eh who is better at hindi yung Who has the most consecutive championship title.

Peace, man.
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Melissa are you listening ?
:yum:

[charmingmelissa]

Originally posted by Blue Knight
hmmm........i'm not a lasallian nor benildean pero alam mo bang si Limpot and Locsin nasama sa RP Team to represent the Phil sa Asiad before ?

Alam mo din ba na yung "main man" na sinasabi mo eh scorer sa Sta Lucia before ? Alam mo ba na si "Tank" eh naging heart and soul ng Ginebra ? Meaning may napatunayan na sila.

I admire Rodney Santos kase down to earth at mahusay talaga.

Alam mo din ba na si Adducul ngayon eh hirap maka score ? Nasaan nga pala si Tanigue na magaling na point guard ng baste ? Si Ocampo na dating pointguard asana ?

Alam mo bang si Dale Singson na nabanggit sa taas eh sinabing nasa MBA lang ? diba nasa Shell na siya ngayon ?

Ang question dito eh who is better at hindi yung Who has the most consecutive championship title.

Peace, man.
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Melissa are you listening ?
:yum:


what? are you saying something???my bad,my bad:( I'll pay attention next time

[charmingmelissa]

Originally posted by Blue Knight
hehehehe....parang ikaw lang yata ang hindi nakahalata na from baste din yun nag post niyan.
diba mas ok kung ur not from that skul tapos bigay ka opinion para hindi one sided ang resulta ?

wake up melissaaaaahhhhh !!!!!


I don't think you'll ever get it cause this is just something winners would understand.in this area its our expertise and not yours anymore,this is something beyond basketball.bye bye

[sir leon]

You can never say that Stags are better than the glowing goldies, thats the purpose why UAAP and NCAA are two different leagues para mas madaling mag champion. YOU CAN BE CHAMPION OVER SEVEN PARTICIPATING SCHOOLS BUT TO TALK ABOUT NATIONAL LEAGUE IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE. Good that there is a champions league to look forward to. Its interesting to watch other provincial teams in action nakakasawa na kasi NCAA and UAAP. If only the NCAA board can see that the salvation of the NC rests in embracing other leagues.

Go San Beda Fight!

[renvic]

Do u knw what ur talkng about??? 5 PEAT DIN ANG UST!!!! research k muna.. nakakahiya kc *** ni post mo eh... for thse who reply in dis section.... well.. reaserch muna kayo.. about nmn kay rommel aduccul... galing FEU c aduccul... nd d compttion bout SSC-R to UST in der tym... malakas ang baste...

[Radski]

>>>councilor
REMEMBER STAGS FIRST FIVE DURING THE 90'S

ADDUCUL - PBA ALLSTAR
CALPITO - PBA PLAYER
ENCARNACION - FORMER PBA PLAYER
SANTOS - PBA PLAYER
TANIGUE - FORMER PBA PLAYER

BENCH

OCAMPO - FORMER PBA PLAYER
DAEP - FORMER PBA PLAYER
BASILIDES - EX MBA, CURRENT PBL
BARBOSA - PBL PLAYER
MACAPAGAL - PBL PLAYER
SE - PBA PLAYER
ROBINSON - PBL PLAYER


WHERE ARE THE PLAYERS OF LA SALLE NOW LIKE
BAUTISTA, LAGO BROTHERS, ROCA,TELAN

KAHIT ANONG SCHOOL PA ANG ITAPAT MO SA LINE UP NA YAN!!!

>>>Rad
im a alumni of baste kasama b **** c se nung nag five peat ang baste alam ko hnd eh. add mo *** c alvin pua sa nbl ata naglalaro.
jst asking

>>>renvic
Do u knw what ur talkng about??? 5 PEAT DIN ANG UST!!!! research k muna.. nakakahiya kc *** ni post mo eh... for thse who reply in dis section.... well.. reaserch muna kayo.. about nmn kay rommel aduccul... galing FEU c aduccul... nd d compttion bout SSC-R to UST in der tym... malakas ang baste...

>>>rad
i think c brix *** tinutukoy mong sa feu kc b4 asst coach c coach turo sa feu. nung naging coach c coach turo sa baste sumabay c brix sa baste. c rommel e galing beda.

>>>blue knight
hmmm........i'm not a lasallian nor benildean pero alam mo bang si Limpot and Locsin nasama sa RP Team to represent the Phil sa Asiad before ?

Alam mo din ba na yung "main man" na sinasabi mo eh scorer sa Sta Lucia before ? Alam mo ba na si "Tank" eh naging heart and soul ng Ginebra ? Meaning may napatunayan na sila.

I admire Rodney Santos kase down to earth at mahusay talaga.

Alam mo din ba na si Adducul ngayon eh hirap maka score ? Nasaan nga pala si Tanigue na magaling na point guard ng baste ? Si Ocampo na dating pointguard asana ?

Alam mo bang si Dale Singson na nabanggit sa taas eh sinabing nasa MBA lang ? diba nasa Shell na siya ngayon ?

Ang question dito eh who is better at hindi yung Who has the most consecutive championship title.

Peace, man

>>>rad
Tanigue is back at school last 2001 to finish coursed as well as rommel adducul before he entered in pba. c ocampo d ko alam bka bumalik na ng states fil-am kc sya.

>>>well the two teams are great and dominate basketball before.
Before baste is a powerhouse team after the like of adducul (mba b4), encarnacion (pba), calpito (pba), tanigue (pba) and ocampo (pba) entered the pro leagues (look five starter drafted in the pro, four of them in the pba and also coach turo became the coach of pop cola whoaaa what else can u ask for) baste (coach by bai cristobal) remains a title contender but they losed to letran knights? in final four?. In 2000 (coach turo returned) lose a younger team Csb in a championship match.

>>>ust very well coach b4 thats why they win the same with baste.

>>>i heard DeJon Lee will be in the draft nxt year i hope so. After the five player of baste enter pro, Dejon was hired by baste he is a high flying point guard like w.miller but he doesnt bring baste in its quest for the 6 peat. after 1 season he flewed back in the states. :(.

[renvic]

>>>rad
i think c brix *** tinutukoy mong sa feu kc b4 asst coach c coach turo sa feu. nung naging coach c coach turo sa baste sumabay c brix sa baste. c rommel e galing beda...

>>>renvic
As far as i concern.. c aduccul ay galing FEU.... un ang pag kaka alam ko... bout brix... i have no idea bout dat... pero marunong nmn akong 2manggap ng pag kakamali eh... ewn ko *** sa nag post ng topic n ito.... UST is the first school who commited d first 5 peat in Universities/Colligiete game in terms of basketball... I'm sure about dat... Bcoz DLSU is wanted to tied up d 5 peat of d Growling tigers... bt unfortunately... tinalo *** ng ATENEO... so no more 5 peat anymore... think of it.. 4 those who posting up this topic.... Well Well Well!!!! Bahala k n.... I'm not compiting u... ni correct *** kita... sorry guys...

Go Dolphins Fight!!!

[Radski]

no one is wrong bro renvic :) its ok thats my side :)

[jmmdg]

Originally posted by renvic
Do u knw what ur talkng about??? 5 PEAT DIN ANG UST!!!! research k muna.. nakakahiya kc *** ni post mo eh... for thse who reply in dis section.... well.. reaserch muna kayo.. about nmn kay rommel aduccul... galing FEU c aduccul... nd d compttion bout SSC-R to UST in der tym... malakas ang baste...


fourpeat lang ang UST...

[jmmdg]

Originally posted by emzan
MAKA LIMA MUNA KAYO... BAGO NATIN PAGTALUNAN ITO.
YUNG MGA PLAYER NG LA SALLE BANTAYAN NYO BAKA MAGAYA KAY LIMPOT AT LOCSIN...

CAN YOU BEAT THAT...

what do you mean by this...

regarding limpot and locsin yung DRUGS issue...

dapat ngang bantayan...

addict!!!

[Blue Knight]

nice reply Radski.

YUng adducul issue na yan pwede isapelikula dahil nung pumunta siya dito sa manila eh may bayong siyang bitbit at naka slippers na naglalakad sa recto naghahanap ng skul na papasukan. Tapos sumubok mag try sa UST pero hindi tinaggap pati sa La Salle dahil nga parang na discriminate siya sa ayos niya.
I think sa FEU yata nag try din siya.
Swerte ng baste at kinuha siya i forgot sinung coach nagbigay ng trust diyan pero ang masasabi ko lang hindi nagkamali ang coach dahil nakapagbigay siya ng 5 titles sa skul mo.
Yung story na yan almost the same din sa UST player na si Estong Ballesteros na ngayon ay nasa coca cola.

[emzan]

Originally posted by jmmdg
what do you mean by this...

regarding limpot and locsin yung DRUGS issue...

dapat ngang bantayan...

addict!!!

sayang itong dalawang player na
galing pa naman ng DLSU

SUSPENDED!!!

THE TANK & THE MAIN MAN...

ano kaya ang natutunan nila sa LA SALLE...

just asking!!! hehehe.........

[Lunatic]

Originally posted by emzan
sayang itong dalawang player na
galing pa naman ng DLSU

SUSPENDED!!!

THE TANK & THE MAIN MAN...

ano kaya ang natutunan nila sa LA SALLE...

just asking!!! hehehe.........


Off topic pero nakakatawa :lol:

[cj_blue]

correction, aduccul is from baste, not feu :*)

[Radski]

maraming salamat Blue Knight

correction teammate na *** estong at adducul sa ginebra :)

pasensya na *** sa english ko lol ahehehe mali mali na *** midnight kc ako nagpost lol


iamMauie musta date nyo ni arjun at jep aheehehehe pinagseselos mo ko lol :D