Ateneo-LaSalle Rivalry

[AirHare]

The ADMU - DLSU game is this Saturday and it looks like a blow out unless Ateneo finds a way to shoot well and take away their nervousness during big games. Allado, Aledeguer, Ritualo, and yes my Ateneo friends, Manalo will walk all over the Eagles this Saturday.

I think Villanueva, Sison and company better get their hearts checked and see if they're ready for the big time. Ateneo still seems too unfamiliar with what it takes to get to the final four.

Animo La Salle!!!

[don]

All right! It's La Salle vs. Ateneo this Saturday, I can hardly wait to watch (is it at Cuneta or PhilSports?).

Anyway, I have been a bit boggled by what's happening to the Blue Eagles. I mean, they've got an above-average coach in Joe Lipa, off-season overseas training, and three big guys in Pamintuan, Villanueva, and Alvarez. So why the losses? I kinda expected them to loss-free at this stage, but the wins they've got so far were against very weak teams. And why is Brandon Sison still playing? He came into the league at the same time as Mark Telan; he should have completed his playing years two seasons back.

I agree with the rest of the previous postings regarding Ren-Ren Ritualo's inconsistent performance. Yes, he's been tightly guarded, especially in that UST win. But I think Coach Pumaren should give him more playing time to allow him to catch fire. I've watched him warm the bench for most of the first half in games; it could be a factor for his slump.

But I think that this Saturday's game will be no different. Both teams will still match up evenly. Players from both sides will still play with fire and pride. It will be loud, exciting and fun. And, as customary with La Salle - Ateneo games >;snicker!<;, La Salle will win this one.

[Aragorn]

Whoa, boys! Easy on the criticism...
Remember, every time Ateneo and La Salle plays against each other, the playing field is LEVELLED. It's a 'start-from-scratch' game, with all the standings tossed out the window.
Sure, we haven't won against you guys in two years, but well, that 20-plus point win back in '97 sure took you guys by surprise! Which brings me back to my earlier point---don't rely on the statistics during Ateneo-LaSalle games.
Whenever our two schools clash, everybody's brought back to the NCAA's heyday back in the 50s and 60s---except probably the car-smashing and the rumbles outside Rizal after the games.
Well, whoever wins this Saturday's game will surely deserve it. And I hope to high heaven that it's our turn to win.
Animo Ateneo!

[archerguy]

SEE YOU AT PHILSPORTS!

Yes, the moment has finally arrived....the event that we've been waiting for....the Blue Eagles will again be crushed! Well, someone said that we shouldn't rely heavily on statistics...the unexpected will surely come from Ateneo. But hey, two years has passed, and the same line has been said by the Ateneans, added to the fact that they've been showing dismal performance. Well anyway, who knows..it may come true, it may not...but one thing's for sure....the DLSU Pep Squad will be there... the few, the chosen, the Loud and the Proud La Sallian cheerers! There can only be one...La Salle will win this fight....ANIMO LA SALLE!

Hey La Sallites and Ateneans from Pinoyexchange, as well as from other universities...want to see each other in the DLSU-ADMU game at Philsports? Just a suggestion....have a nice day!

[Rockgardener]

July 31st's a very significant day for the
Blue and the White,..basketball notwithstanding..and regardless of what
the odds are, or how many times you may have
beaten us, when it comes to this game, you
can throw all your stats' out the window.
And please, I know your statement about
'Manalo walking all over us' is a reflection
of your strong pride..but what exactly is
your point?..That he has all this vented up
hatred against Ateneo that he waited this long to kick our butts? He hasn't done
diddly in the last four games, so it seems to
me that if he does what you've prophesied,
he deserves to be a Green Archer. Would you
want someone on your side who feigned loyalty? If anything, he'll be the one
who's super nervous...watch for two additional bulges on his throat besides his adam's apple...and it might back-fire
on you guys should he be sent in the game.
Animo Ateneo!
One big Fight!

[archerguy]

BJ Manalo did not peform badly during the first four games. He surely can deliver those three-point shots with such ease and is of great help in terms of assists. In fact, he was the TOP SCORER in La Salle's fourth match held last Saturday.

[Kaboom!]

Guys, just a clarification so that we won't have any confusion...
The big ADMU-DLSU game this Saturday is not at the Philsports arena. It will be at the Cuneta Astrodome in Pasay -- Along Roxas Blvd.
Good luck to both teams!

[REKTIKANO]

guys take it easy. Let's have an open mind here okay. First things first. Both teams won't have that much time to prepare for each other because Ateneo has to play UE first on Wednesday while LaSalle has to play Adamson on Thursday. Meaning Ateneo will only have 2 days to prepare while LaSalle 1 day. It's unthinkable that both teams will overlook these teams before playing each other, especially Ateneo who needs to win badly over UE not only because for a better record but a win will surely fire up their morale. While for LaSalle, in my opinion, it's a more dangerous situation because Adamson is still winless and they might think that they can just walk over Adamson. I think this is one of the reasons why LaSalle has been performing below par the past few games especially the games against UE and UST. They thought they could just turn it up anytime they want to, but look what happened. They almost lost to UE and eventually lost to UST. Actually in that game against UP, they even struggled in the first half, trailing by a point. Hardly the stuff defending champions are made of.
This one's address to Rock gardener. I think BJ walking all over Ateneo was meant in a basketball sense and not something to be meant as having an axe to grind against Ateneo. How can he when he spent a longer time with Ateneo than what he will be spending with LaSalle. But I agree with you that he may have the butterflies this saturday and that's understandable. Actually I'm even thinking that LaSalle should bench him so that there will be no distractions, although it could also be an advantage if he plays because Ateneo might concentrate in "humiliating" him and lose track of the game. But both sides have very good coaches and they will not let this petty things get in the way.

[archerguy]

My apologies for the wrong info on the venue. See you at Cuneta Astrodome!

[Aragorn]

See y'all at Cuneta this Saturday! It'll be another intense afternoon for all of us, I'm sure.
I'm sure we'll all run into each other there, Ateneans and LaSallites alike.
It'll be a pretty good game if Ateneo whips UE and DLSU kicks Adamson's butt. Let's hope they win both, eh?
All I'm hoping is that Lipa finds someone to guard Ritualo...he's the perfect offensive weapon against Ateneo, sad to say. Well, we'll just have to wait till Saturday!

[nix]

So it's Ateneo vs. La Salle again eh? Well, I've watched these two teams slug it out for the past five years, and I don't think much has changed over the course of time. Ateneo will once again be the underdogs of this match-up, and unless the Blue Eagles can pull off a fast one, DLSU looks like they will walk away as winners once again.

I just finished watching the UE vs. Ateneo game and once again, the Blue Eagles ran their opponents to the ground. I'd like to see how Ateneo would compete in a close game. Their run and gun tactics either blow their enemies away, or they are the ones who are left behind in the box scores. They need to be a little more consistent with their offense in order to face the more experienced teams.

Well, see all you guys at the games. May the best team win.

[Rockgardener]

Speaking of Rivalries,..Wouldn't you say that the Ateneo vs. La Salle rivalry has well, ..if not diminished,..definitely become less animus?..and there's this general
cordiality between schools nowadays? I'm not
saying that's a bad thing. I was just wondering if any of you noticed it.
* Many will point towards Ateneo's bolting
out of the NCAA for this deference, and that
the following years without having to face
each other helped subdue a once bloody and
belligerent relationship.
** I've heard many say it's because Ateneo
just hasn't been that competitive in the last
ten years, and so, consequently the games
don't exhort the same zealousness.
** Then there's my theory..The 'Wala nang
Martial Law' theory. No really, hear me out
here...Back in those days, there was violence
everywhere..most of all in the streets..
the demonstrations occurred almost daily..and
one could feel this constantly in the air..
The violence of course, found it's way to the
classroom..now I don't know about La Salle,
but in Ateneo, I feared getting beat up by
my fellow Atenistas just as much as getting
pounded by some LaSalite during a game. I'm
no whimp..but these things did occur..for stupid reasons at that..I'm sure my fellow
Ateneans who grew up in that generation would
corroborate.
* But back to the games..man o man..nakakatakot talaga..Imagine, not only did we have to worry about getting beat up
during the school week when we were crusin'
for chicks at Green Hills..but here was the
weekend..and if we had to cruise to Rizal..
sorry na kami..or if the game was at Araneta,
sorry na lang yung mga Lasalista's..even
though Araneta was considered neutral..it was
a joke!..I remember like it was yesterday,..
Ateneo had just lost to La Salle in the '75
championships..Back then, Araneta was literally divided in two by this huge chain
linked fence..but it didn't matter kasi pag
dating sa labas..upakan na! And it was like
that all through the early and mid seventies.
** Now..it seems all is well..there's a
million and one more things to do for a kid
growing up..what with the internet..cable tv..cell phones..and the ( ahem..) 'more
generalized openness and less sexual constrictions between young males and females'. ( those of you over thirty should
catch my drift )
So all is good..and please clue me in if
I'm way off base...basta..good luck to both
teams this Saturday.
Peace.

[The Saint]

As far as I'm concerned, there are only two schools in the UAAP. LA SALLE...and OTHERS...

[Francis]

Same here, in the UAAP ONLY the La Salle-Ateneo Seniors Rivalry is the MAIN piece STAR attraction due to the INHERENT
nobility and glamor of both La Salle and Ateneo which the others simply do not have.

ANIMO LA SALLE!!! KEEP THE REKTIKANO SPIRIT
BURNING!!!

[gDAWAL]

I AGREE WITH Rockgardener!

PARANG FOR "FORMALITY'S SAKE" NALANG YUNG GLAMOUR AT HYPE NG MGA ATENEO-LA SALLE GAMES.

DATI MEDYO INTENSE PA YUNG RIVALRY, PERO NGAYON LOW- QUALITY BALL GAMES NA YUNG ADMU - LS. LAGING TAMBAK. (NO OFFENSE ADMU)

PERSONALLY, MAS EXCITING PA ANG RIVALRY NG

LA SALLE AT UST!!!!!!

[Rockgardener]

Dear The Saint...( that's ironic )
What in the heck are you talking about?
It's a bit ambiguous to say the least..
That 'just kidding' thing..It's like calling
somebody an *******..then saying,'just kidding'..egalitarianism or impudence?
Where is your camp?
Yours truly.
Disconcerted

[AirHare]

I predict LaSalle will win by 15 points. Any takers?

[The Saint]

La Salle has no real rival coz no school can match it's standards. Ateneo is too engrossed in sugar coating its name...and UST...well, good luck na lang on your quest to become like us someday...Uy!Pumuputi na yung mga players nila!

[The Saint]

Just kidding! Nakikigulo lang. But really guys, believe me...every school has its strength and shouldn't be underestimated...and yes, even UST. Maraming cute doon...charming and alluring, you'd mistake them for angels. Nevertheles, believe me guys, the more you bash or put down other schools, the more you put down your respective alma mater. Nobility is measured by one's calling to the needs of the unfortunate. (I don't hate Ateneo coz I consider them less fortunate than La Salle...HAH!) Happy Thoughts...Peace...

[Ginny]

Buti pa si the saint. Sana ganyan lang lagi ang alaskahan. At least diba, may laman pero funny and not below the belt (perhaps, isakto lang sa belt, hahaha).

It's okay to make fun of each other. My dad and my uncles have been at it since the day I was born. But as I had said, okay lang coz they know how to receive while dishing out in kind. Last I checked, we were still one family. And inspite of belittling schools other than their own (may Ateneo, La Salle, UP and San Beda sa kanila), last I checked, these schools were still considered to be some of the best. Three of them are the three best actually. Who actually is the best is another topic, hahaha. I am sure, walang katapusan that argument.

Basta wag lang below the belt like those rape and hazing things. Yon, iba na yon.

[archerguy]

Speaking of the rape incident (don't worry, this won't be disgusting) at UP, one UP student was very brave because she was able to escape from the rape attempt by using her peppermint spray and kicking the attacker. Wala lang. I just find her amazing.

[Super]

i think the reason why ateneo won against lasalle is the great defense played by jean alabanza! i believe that he is the best player in the whole ateneo team! he fears no one! he can do anything! he is a role player abd he fears no one! bj manalo is no match for alabanza... pound for pound, alabanza can match any player in the uaap in the 2 and 3 position! you guys just wait til he heats up! he'll be the key to ateneo's championship year!

[babyfat]

you guys, ateneo beat lasalle 60-57 at the cuneta astrodome this afternoon. it was a pretty exciting game -- a close fight all throughout -- but the best team had to win. it was a well-deserved win by the blue eagles. i don't really engage in lasalle bashing, but to all you lasallites who were so cocky and sure about winning, pahiya kayo ngayon, diba?

[archerguy]

Congratulations to the Ateneo Blue Eagles for a convincing win vs the Green Archers yesterday! You really surprised us...I especially liked the way you guys cheered at the Cuneta...and the introduction of your female cheerdancers. I humbly accept our defeat and wish you good luck in our next match. See you!

>;>;>;===Animo La Salle!!!!===>;>;

[Aragorn]

Please forgive my "hubris"...
PANALO KAMI!!!
Thank you for the compliment, archerguy...you know, we don't get to win Ateneo-LaSalle games too often...Pagbigyan ninyo na kami! =)
So...Ateneo and LaSalle have the same standings, 4-2, am I right?

[nix]

This doesn't happen to be Jean Alabanza does it?

[seven]

oo nga super, hindi ba ikaw si mr. alabanza? o di kaya manager ka nya at bini-build-up mo sya? de, joke lang.=)

but as i have read from the newspapers, it was a real big win for ateneo. they really deserve to be praised for what they have done. at least they were out not to prove anything to those who put them down ( read: la salle supporters ), but to prove that they may be contenders for the final four slots. you really can't tell kung sino-sino talaga ang magko-complete ng final four cast. pero sa tingin ko UST di mawawalan ng slot. uy, love your own lang ako, ha. baka may mag-react violently? =)

hey, malay nyo pumasok ang adamson at nu sa final four? at hindi ako nagbibiro....

[Agimat]

Jean Alabanza? ... He just harrassed BJ Manalo. Yun lang ang ginawa niya.. Whether he's effective or not, he pissed BJ. It is quite sad how Ateneans treated BJ during the game. I share their fraustrations and sentiments about the transfer of BJ to La Salle. But he made the decision and lets respect that. Whether the rumors about him are true or not, lets just respect his decision to play for La Salle.

[seven]

i agree with agimat. we have to respect bj manalo's decision. he may have a lot of reasons unknown to us kaya sya nag-transfer.

syempre, di din natin masisisi ang ateneo if they pulled a rough ride on bj, diba.

but, this bj issue highlights the rivalry between ateneo and la salle. how in the world did la salle get ateneo's prized, home-grown talent when in fact, ateneo needs bj more than la salle needs him?

[Meron]

Win or lose its the school we choose this is the Ateneo way... an undaunted spirit that shatters all adversaries! But its always sweeter when we win and so TALO KAYO! Buti nga! You airheads always want to show you are squeaky clean when everyone else knows your recruitment policies are down right dirty and degrading. If I were you morons I would violently object to these policies and air your thoughts to your freakin' alumni and save whatever standards you have... that is if you have any. How can a Jun Limpot(from some dumb school in Davao), Johndhel (take note of the letter "h") Cardel(San Sebastian), Allen Patrimonio( from Adamson), Mark Telan(from Mapua) and many more NCEE delinquent athletes make it in La Salle? Pare tinapon lang yan sina Limpot at Cardel sa Benilde tapos sa La Salle kunyari nag-aaral para lang mapa champion. So when you guys got caught well voila! Like magic instant DLSU-Main students daw! And how many of you guys have taken the ACET? If you compare your entrance test to ours yours is like a short quiz about the alphabet. Sure you can say you never took the test but I am pretty sure you know a lot of people who took the ACET but are now studying in your school because they did not pass. I know because some of my classmates from the Ateneo Highschool who did not make it to the Ateneo College were in the dean's list of your school. And thats why BJ is now playing for La Salle... para magkaroon naman ng konting
talino o IQ yung basketball team ninyo. Afterall BJ studied in Ateneo.

Well after everything is said and done you will probably rebuttal every claim I mentioned here but you will never change one thing... TALO KAYO at dahil doon PAHIYA KAYO.
Barado ba? OOOPSSS wag mapipikon.

[Kaboom!]

To Jean Alabanza: Hope your shoulder feels better, the eagles will need some of that fire on defense in the second round.

Congrats again to Ateneo for pulling off the win vs LaSalle. I think I really liked what I saw in Richie Alvarez. I had questions about his heart and mental toughness and he went one step further in getting enough of both to be a force in the UAAP in the years to come.

To DLSU, I still think you're more talented than ADMU, it's just that the team had an off day with foul trouble haunting Aldeguer and Allado. But with ADMU-DLSU games, heart comes into play more than talent.

Peace.

[banana]

Congratulations to the Blue Eagles! You guys exhibited such undaunted spirit even against the so-sure-to-win Lasallites. ONE BIG FIGHT!

[Super]

the incident with bj manalo and alabanza was nothing... alabanza just played great defense on manalo... allado, ritualo, and aldeger weren't stepping up... and what a fitting stage for manalo to light up lasalle's game... coach lipa knew this, and he knows that manalo will burn ateneo unless he finds a way to contain him... and thats what alabanza did.... he contained manalo! manalo apparently didnt like the idea that someone was guarding him that well... he got pissed and it ruined his game! his game is not to retaliate against a good defender but to shoot the rock!
if manalo concentrated on what he was supposed to do and he would have made that ateneo-lasalle game his personal statement to everyone that he has matured and has come to play... but he didnt! he's got a lot to learn!

[Ri]

CONGRATULATIONS to the ATENEO BLUE EAGLES!!!!

You showed us what ONE BIG FIGHT is all about!!!

Sure, there are more talented teams out there but Saturday's game goes to show that you didn't need your hearts checked, as someone commented. They were pounding away within all of you like drumbeats in battle, hungry and deserving of such a win.

I hope that this victory serves to boost your confidence and helps you build up your many strengths.

ALSO, I think it's important to comment on what crowd support did for the Eagles. When I was in Ateneo, MANY people were apathetic towards the team -- or they just wouldn't want to watch for fear of enduring the pain of a loss. I'm glad to see the Blue Blooded come out and cheer unabashedly for our guys.

ANIMO ATENEO!!!!!!!!!!!

[@NeO]

It feels good to be a winner. Congratulations fellow Ateneans!!! And you thought we couldn't win... sure win pala ang lasalle ha...;-) hehehe

[AirHare]

A job well done, Ateneo. Looks like you're back in the groove. I thought LaSalle would win by 15, you proved me wrong.

With a convincing win over DLSU, I hope to see you in the Final Four.

[don]

We lost >;sniff!<;. After braving the infernal traffic snarl leading to the Astrodome, arriving at halftime, and fighting for seats, I watch my team lose to, uh, the other school.

Undeniably, Ateneo played extremely well, especially that Gonzales guy, who's so quick at 6-4. But Alvarez, despite his raw strength, needs to refine his game, especially his shooting touch. And Villanueva needs to assert his presence more.

As for La Salle, I don't think Pumaren shuffled his men well. During that time that Ateneo was making its run from eight points down, he didn't field in any of his starters. When Ren-Ren and Co. went in to play, there were less than 3 minutes left and Ateneo was riding on a three-point lead and its momentum.

So yeah, it's a combination of Ateneo pride and La Salle miscalculation. We'll be back next round...

And now, back to being a sore loser. How I wish the game was better officiated. I don't know if you noticed it, especially if you're from Ateneo, but the referees made some incredibly stupid calls down the stretch that decided the game against La Salle. Like how, on two instances, the Eagles slipped on the slick floor AND THE ARCHERS GOT CALLED FOR THE FOUL! Since when was the floor part of our team?

And Ren-Ren's "kicking foul" after releasing the shot. C'mon, he uses that to balance himself. If he tried to deliberately kick the opposition, he'd lose his own balance as well and end up with a nasty spill.

What about Don Allado's fouls. The guy was standing straight up with his arms raised vertically and this guy Alvarez leaps into him and sends him sprawling. The stupid referee had the gall to call Allado for his fourth foul and send Alvarez to the stripe.

Again, sorry for sounding like a sore loser, but those errors are just too glaring to escape notice. Yeah, yeah, it's what you call "the breaks of the game". Ateneo is a great team and deserved the victory last Saturday; we got too cocky. But I just wish the refs called it better. It would have been a fairer fight for both sides.

Nagkulang yata kami ng bayad sa referee :).

[MEDIAN]

To Meron,

What gets around comes around! It's not surprising that we Ateneans get branded as
elitists. Such harsh words and below the belt hitting is not proper for an Atenean (even if you're telling the truth)!Be dignified in defeat! Be magnanimous in triumph!

Fligh High!

[Patricia Paraiso]

So Ateneo won against La Salle last Saturday! Good for them! Congratulations! I hope their performance will be consistent until the end of the season.

To the Archers, it's not yet the end of the line. There's another game against the Eagles. Just do better next time. ANIMO LA SALLE!!!

[atenista91]

the ateneo cheers emit lots of proud tradition and heritage.they were written many decades ago. what about la salle's cheers, when were they composed? is it true that la salle's cheers were composed by former ateneans who just didn't make the grade when they took their ACET? there's nothing wrong with being proud of your school's cheers but can't the la sallites come up with something more original rather than chanting second-rate copycat cheers of ateneo?

[don]

alam mo, atenista91, kulang na lang, sabihan mo kami ng "trying-hard" tapos sabuyan ng tubig sa mukha ang Pep Squad, pwede ka na sa pelikula.

Or better yet, sa "The Buzz" o "S-Files". Dami mo kasing tsismis na sinisimulan, eh.

And to Median, thanks for giving Meron a proper perspective. As I don't want a fellow Lasallian tarnishing his school's image, I can understand your sentiments.

[Meron]

Median,

Hmmm... are you a true blue?

Have you watched all of the Ateneo and La Salle games for the past decade or so ? Have you seen the behavior of these la sallites when they watch the games? If not then you would not really understand my point of view.

You are correct in saying what gets around comes around. They are just getting what they deserve. So Don no matter what you do your image is really tarnished. I remember the posters you guys brought to one of your championship games against UST and it said "tuition niyo baon lang namin." And last saturday there was a gentleman's agreement with the BBB and your pep squad that no provocations will be made during half time. Well as usual you started the "alaskahan." So I am just returning the favor of your teasing style.

And this is what makes the rivalry fun. In any case TALO PA RIN KAYO! What makes it really magnanimous is you guys spend so much money on recruitment and you always end up with the stronger lineup. We have nothing to lose really and its gravy to see you gripe in defeat. Hey I hope you guys do a little better in the second round. Sayang naman ang investment ninyo.

[REKTIKANO]

to meron and atenista, well what can I say?
your comments were expected. Very Ateneans like. Okay lang. Talo kami eh, panalo kayo. It's your turn to bask in glory for a few days. Thanks for making those comments regarding LaSalle, you just showed the people here to what level you people are willing to go down just to bash LaSalle. Sorry, hindi ko kayo papatulan or else we will go down to your level. Mas me class pa rin kami sa inyo (with sincere apology to level headed Ateneans). Review your posts here,is that the meaning of "men for others"? what a most hypocritical and abuse phrase!! di ba Kaboom?
Regarding the halftime cheer. You were right. Our pep squad shouldn't have done that (If it was true that they had an agreement with the BBB). But even if they don't, those kind of things shouldn't be done. BUT you said it, "what gets around comes around". Huwag kang magmalinis, remember 1996 second round, halftime cheer. Remember the DLRT jacket? the wiping of the floor of the green jacket? Afterwards, the sending of the supposedly apology "letter" by your higher ups addressed to the LaSallian community?Yan ang hyprocrisy. It was like sinuntok mo muna bago ka nagsabi ng sorry. Galing ninyo talaga. Bilib na ako.
Atenista, what do you know of our cheers? better yet, what do you know about LaSalle for that matter? Were those observations taught to you by your elders there in Ateneo? No wonder (Whatever that means).Lastly, to meron, ganyan pala how a "true blue" behaves. Thanks for letting me know and for showing the people here what kind of a school Ateneo is.

[The Saint]

RECRUITMENT? Hmm...as I recall, it was UST who started recruiting from the provinces. La Salle then started INVITING students from the United States...and those rumors that La Salle gives cars and fancy rewards to players, how could our Admin do so when they can't even give a full scholarship to most of its players? It's just too bad that these young kids chose to play for the better school. BJ Manalo, as i see it, played for La Salle coz Ateneo doesn't even give a thought about its athletes or wouldn't even use their brains (as they claim they have) so their athletes would cope up with their practices and at the same time give enough attention to their academics. In La Salle, athletes are enrolled in a class that are pre-adjusted to practice schedules so they don't have to absent from examinations for the sake a vital practice...now that's what I call brilliant!

In office where there is a chemical reaction of Ateneans and La Sallites, our unit manager announced the 3point victory the blue eagles. I guess the rivalry is for real and not just some glamour factory. The rivalry carries on beyond basketball to the office. Suddenly, the seminar room turned into an olymic stadium...even the senior supervisors aged 36 and above started chanting their respective alma mater songs. One of my officemates attended UST for college but came from Ateneo High...he considers himself Atenean and was had the loudest cheer that stormy afternoon.

Well, I hope Ateneo becomes consistent in their campaign this year. Remember the 1996 campaign spearheaded by Gabby Cui and Tonichi Pinzon? The promblem with Ateneans is that when they can't keep up with the pace of the season, they start coming up with the usual excuse of "I'm still most intelligent person in the world anyway". Win or Lose, it's the school we choose...good motto but it sure leaves a bridge behind you unburned. La Salle-"we'll fight to keep your honor bright and NEVER SHALL WE FAIL...". By singing so, we have burned the bridge behind us leaving no way to retreat. A dare to the sugar coated blue school...see you at the final four. WE'll BE WAITING!

[Ri]

"Win or lose, it's the school we choose" is not and was NEVER meant to be an excuse for failure. It's about being dignified and magnanimous in defeat as Median said. I think that that brand of loyalty is hard to find these days with the way the country's leaders change political sides more often than they do their underwear. Winning is sweet alright, but what depth do you have if you think victory is the only reward of competition?

One thing that sets Ateneans apart from La Sallalites is the ability we have to laugh at ourselves and learn from our mistakes at the same time. Above all, we accept responsibility for such mistakes and try to refrain from whining about them and putting the blame elsewhere.

[seven]

OY PEOPLE, AYAN NA NAMAN....NAGPAPAGALINGAN NA NAMAN PO TAYO DITO.

THIS BB WAS NOT MEANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE CLASSICAL ATENEO-LA SALLE RIVALRY,NO!

siguro, comments on the UAAP results are ok. but the personal, below the belt hirits are not for here...to go yan, as in take out!

let us all be civilized here, and stop this cheap hiritan. ganyan ba upbringing sa La Salle and Ateneo? Kala ko pa "prestigious" ang schools nyo. Bakit kayo ganyan?

=) take care ! =)

[marooned]

to rektikano, please do not generalize by saying "...for showing the people here what
kind of a school Ateneo is." just because you are pissed off with someone from ateneo, or with meron and atenista to be specific, does not mean you will find everyone else from that school detestable. my loyalty is now with UP, but i earned all my basic and secondary education in loyola hts. in the same vein, you would not want us to categorize la salle by simply basing it on the comments made by chuckie reyes and francis here in the bulletin board, right? now, THOSE were below the belt, and it was nice to see some of you disapprove what your schoolmates had said. it just showed me that one should not generalize. neither should you.

[Meron]

Rektikano,

Well you just ate your words. You could have simply said, "I am ignoring you and I will not step DOWN to your level," although thats pretty hard to imagine given historical facts that La Salle is the playground of delinquent Ateneans that do not make it to Ateneo college or UP or even UA&P. Oh yes, BJ Manalo was wait listed in Ateneo and his only chance was through the basketball team with the backing of the alumni since he did maintain good grades in Highschool. He just did not like the idea of not having a guaranteed diploma ergo his decision to play for La Salle. If you do not believe me which I know you will not... sorry ka na lang.

You still had to rebuttal with a pissed off tone. The funny thing is well I am just out here to tease which by the way is a tradition of the ATENEO-la salle rivalry. So for once you, a la Sallite or la sallian or whatever it is you call youself, is correct in saying its shallow.

So whats the fuss? If you are not yet working well what more if you do hear these stuff outside school specially when you have an Atenean boss? Cry? Ignore him or just laugh? Knowing you would probably resign.

Cheers!

[don]

Moron, in response to your response to my response:

On teasing: There is a world of difference between teasing and insulting. Look it up.

On "Tuition Niyo, Baon Ko": Regrettably those idiot poster-makers are La Sallians, the same way that a moron like you is an Atenean. In case you are too lazy to read the other posts, there are rotten apples in every basket.

And why are you questioning Median's qualifications as a true Atenean? Does a true Atenean have to bash Lasallians and be shallow just to prove himself worthy? You should be glad someone's trying to prevent you from embarrassing yourself and your school any further.

And I'm just teasing, so you have no right to rebuttal (sic).

[don]

Tama rin si Seven. Nagiging pissing match na ito. Parang pataasan na ng ihi, if you will.

If any of us wants to show that our school is the best, let's show off our school's products. Let's show off ourselves.

Which should be taken to mean, show us that you're worthy enough to be called a Lasallian, Atenean, Iskolar ng Bayan, or a Thomasian, not by putting others down but by showing what you've learned. Especially good manners and good breeding.

Tandaan niyo, dala-dala niyo ang pangalan ng iskwela niyo. Pag-isipan niyo muna ang isusulat niyo.

But as for my response to Meron, that was personal.

[alcogel]

something more...
the ateneo high school team defeated the dlsz team in the juniors division. i don't really remember the score, pero congrats to ateneo! sana dlsz kalaban niyo sa finals!
sige...

colllege...
mabuti nanalo ateneo...para naman hindi super left out yung half ng pact from the leaders. ateneo, good luck against up. tomorrow na yun. sa dlsu, next round ulit. we haven't won against you na 2-0 sa isang uaap year...either 1-1 and record or 2-0 in your favor. exciting eh? sige, see you ulit wherever and whenever...kahit long shot, sana sa finals!

smile! =)

[Ginny]

mali yata yung napostan ko ng message, hahaha. i just posted a message in "of recruitment and lasalle", but that message is also applicable here (maybe even more so). it's about ateneo and lasalle, and how ateneo and UP very seldom, if ever, diss each other, etc, etc. just read it in that board.

don : ok yung in response to your response to my response.... :) guys, take it easy. the arguments are going back and forth and repeating itself, pero different lang ang protagonists. dati, it was sila greeneagle, marooned, rl, ako, etc (mostly ateneo/up) against si chuckie reyes. now naman, si meron ang kalaban nila don.

however, i hate to admit this but, i actually find this fun !! as we have been reminded several times, ok lang tong alaskahan, whether about school standards, facilities, players, entrance exams, cheering, etc, basta walang pikunan and make sure you can receive snide remarks as much as you dish them out. and, walang below-the-belt and disgusting stuff (need i remind you about a lasallian's comment here regarding rapes, for crying out loud). PEACE !

[:)]

FOR ATENEO...WINNING A GAME AGAINST DLSU IS LIKE WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP...ANG BABAW!

[don]

Yeah, Ginny, in a perverse sort of way, I find being a war freak fun. Getting tired, though.

O'nga 'no? Kung may Chuckie ang La Salle, merong Meron ang Ateneo. Sino kaya ang Don niyo diyan sa Katipunan?

[Meron]

Don,

As usual your typical la sallian brain is acting up again. You get insulted because you choose to be insulted. Logic dictates (I hope you know what logic is but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for the sake of conversation) that when a person (such as you.. oh yan ha trato ko sa iyo tao baka sabihin mo iniinsulto kita ha) feels and thinks he or she has been insulted by someone
who is apparently just teasing then he or she loses the most because he or she allows his or her emotions to take contol. Ergo an opinion is made that he or she has been insulted by someone who is just teasing. In Psychological terms its S-R and
if the subject's(your my guinea pig) R is exactly what your are exihibiting then your EQ (lets not talk about IQ because you might accuse me of insulting you again) is suffering an emotional distress measured by you feeling insulted. To simplify things for you (notice we Ateneans always have to simplify things for you La Sallites... JUST TEASING) PIKON KA.

Now that was not too difficult to comprehend right? Ang babaw eh tapos nasaksaktan ka. A word of advice why don't you just ignore me ? If you had done this earlier barado na ako. If you feel I am a moron then it makes you worse than a moron because why are you spending time debating with a moron you moron(oh joke ha)? Maybe you are just TEASING. OOOOPsss I just had a sudden realization. Its really illogical to discuss about logic with you la sallites. Baka matawag pa ulit akong moron logically speaking ofcourse. Conclusion : I AM IGNORING YOU!

Cheers!

[gDAWAL]

ATTENTION EVERYONE:

PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS SHORT & STRAIGHT TO THE POINT!!!!

HINDI ITO ESSAY WRITING CONTEST!!!!!!!

THANK YOU.

[don]

Moron, humirit ka pa. Napapahiya ka pa lalo. May pa-ergo-ergo ka pa diyan.

Barado ka na, nabara ka pa nung sumagot ako. Kawawa ka naman. Ni hindi mo pa rin maintindihan kung ano ang pagkakaiba ng pang-aasar at pang-iinsulto. At hindi mo pa rin nasasagot na hindi kailangan ng isang tunay na Atenista ang mangmata ng ibang tao, maski Lasallista.

Tumigil ka na para hindi ka na lalong mapahiya. Mag-aral ka na lang. Moron.

[don]

Guys, I don't know about you, but I'm getting tired of all this crap.

Meron, pare, sorry if I hurt your feelings, but you were just way out of line. I'm not sorry, however, for defending me and mine. In any case, let's just quit this line of argument. I don't need any more enemies and, anyhow, you're welcome as a friend.

To Batang Uliran and Kaboom!, sorry if I turned this BB into "The Jerry Springer Show". This has gotten waaaaay out of hand.

And, no, I have not turned into Care Bear. It's just that I've got too much work to do to get involved in vendettas.

[@NeO]

hey guys... take it easy. Mahirap magEB if everyone's pissed off with each other. Ok lang mag-asaran basta wag lang magkapikunan. I admit that it's fun to bash each other... kaya lang, no one's gonna win this way coz no one's gonna have the last say.

[REKTIKANO]

Moron (este Meron pala, just joking),ang galing mo talaga. Saying that you were just teasing and heaping all that psychological hoola-baloo. I am very tempted to say ganyan naman kayong mga taga Ateneo, tira muna tapos palusot,pero baka pagalitan na naman ako ni Marooned regarding generalizing. But Marooned is right, hindi naman siguro lahat ng taga Ateneo kagaya mo. Brod, for your information, hindi teasing yung sinulat mo kundi insulto. Siguro for you it was funny, pero for LaSallites hindi eh. And don't hide behind the walang pikunan thing. Okay lang sana if you made jokes regarding the game, wala namang problema iyon. As I've said, panalo kayo, so we're giving you the floor to bask in your glory FOR NOW. But you had to venture into other things like the entrance exams, etc. and don't forget you were the first to call us morons and airheads. I guess it's best to let everybody in this BB read your first post and decide kung insulting nga o in a teasing manner ang sinabi mo, of course biases should be set aside kung pro LaSalle ka, anti, or I don't care.
Regarding BJ, well I'm not surprised sa mga sinabi mo. It's expected of you guys (sorry marooned, I can't help it). Sana sinabi mo na lang he FAILED the acet instead of wait-listed and through the Alumni lang and the basketball team that he can enter your PRESTIGIOUS university. Mas may impact yon. Bakit ba hindi ninyo MATANGGAP na wala na sa inyo si BJ?
Okay guys I have said my last piece regarding this topic. Nasabi na lahat ni Don ang iba pang gusto kong sabihin regarding insults, teasing etc. My point is just don't hide behind the guise of teasing if you're insulting. Hindi mo kilala ang iba't ibang tao na for you teasing lang pero para sa iba insulto na (meron ka pang because you chose to be insulted, ha! ha!). For marooned, I apologize but pagalitan mo rin si Moron (o, joke lang yan ha) bacause if you read his piece, kulang na lang sabihin niya ALL LaSallites are......
Mor,ooops, Meron, one on one na lang kaya kayo ni Chuckie?

[marooned]

bahala na nga kayo sa buhay niyo. tama si rektikano, mag-square na lang dapat si chuckie at si meron, hehehe. basta, kay chiqui ako.

[Peece]

To all of you Lasalle boys:

Payback's a b___ch, ain't it?

How ya like the Eagles now? (BJ who?)

Face it, greenies...y'all were burned by the big blue Ateneo Express last Saturday.

Better luck next time. Till then, tell BJ to practice harder so he think he'll deserve all those perks you guys gave him. Make him earn his keep, y'know?

[MEDIAN]

aaaaaccccckkkkkhhhhhggggg!!!!!!

Hey guys can't we just turn this forum off
and proceed to another topic like "Ateneo has the sexiest guys and gals" or "Ateneans are the most romantic people" (He he he he he!!)

Peace and Fly High!

[:)]

ATENEO......WALA YAN! NANALO LANG SA DLSU, PARANG NAGCHAMPION NA!....BABAW TALAGA! TAPOS PAG NILOLOKO...DADAANAN NA LANG SA ACADEMICS NA FEELING NILA NA MAGALING SILA...UTOT NYO!
TIGNAN NA LANG NATIN SA TRABAHO KUNG SINO ANG MAGALING...

[:)]

TSAMBA LANG ANG PANALO NG ATENEO....PINABIGYAN LANG DAHIL BIHIRANG MANALO SA DLSU....SIGURO KAHIT CSB BLAZERS KAYANG TALUNIN ANG ATENEO..

[atenista91]

can any lasallite please answer my simple question regarding where their cheers come from (ie who wrote them and when; also how come they are patterned after Ateneo's cheers)

to DON: what chismis are you talking about? enlighten us please

to :): what a term - "Utot Mo"; also, when you say "tingnan na lang natin sa trabaho" what are you implying? where i work, there are atenean bosses and lasallite bosses...are you showing off? i don't believe that the school determines an individual's success...yes its true that a good school may open more doors but its an individual's efforts and hard work which help him prosper once a door is opened...

[Meron]

Rektikano,

Bwaahhhh! I am having a ball here! Hey if its not true then don't cry. Whether you think its an insult or not remains to be subjective. If you're emotionally scared (hindi takot ha) by my teasing then sorry... sorry ka na lang. :)

Hey if you can't take jokes like these you won't survive in the work place. It gets nastier. We are all friends where I work. Kasi bawal ang PIKON. I am not surprised you considered psych terms as hoola-baloo because your brain capacity is incapable of holding that much information.(oh yan medyo linoloko lang kita ha)

About BJ... I did not use FAILED kasi ang totoo wait listed talaga siya sa Ateneo and I don't have to lie to make an impact e.g. Bobo ka! Oh yan di ba may impact? :) j/k

Cheers and Adios!

[REKTIKANO]

Meron, the difference is that teasing and joking in an office or work place with your friends (people whom you know) is not the same as reading what you wrote by my lonesome. I should know, ganyan din kami dito sa office. Asaran din, like you said ang pikon talo. But we know each other and you know one is joking or teasing siyempre kung may smirk sa mukha or laughing his a** off. I guessed ganyan din kayo diyan. The thing is when I was reading your piece how could I know you were just teasing? It sounded so serious. Believe me iba ang impact when you are reading kesa somebody's just telling it beside you and joking with you. To prove my point, I let my Atenean colleagues read what you wrote (yung serious ang environment and no joking around) and the consensus was para ka ngang naghahanap ng away. Of course afterwards, the ribbing started. No problem because then we know everybody was just JOKING around. So if you thought you looked cool with your hirits to my responses , so be it. Katulad nito, we're dissing each other because we don't know each other from high heavens but surely if we were colleagues the situation will be different. By the way, is that what you guys from Ateneo do during your spare time (invent LaSalle jokes)? Just clariffying.

To Atenista91, so that's what you mean. Actually we here in LaSalle thought otherwise. Kopyang kopya nga ninyo ang cheers namin.

[LT_10]

Hey everybody! Kabooms partner here. They say that Ateneans and La Sallians are the fiercest of rivals but the best of friends. So let's try to keep it at that and ease up a bit. Let's all try to keep are cool.:}

Just wanted to share some facts. I hope nobody takes this personally.I gathered from a scrap book in my house some information about the La Salle cheers. I have a schedule and cheers manual of La Salle in 1948 that had cheers such as The victory song, Rektikano, Zama-Zipa-Zam, Who's going to win this game and a lot of other cheers. The cheers were composed by a group of brothers led by Brother Cajetan and some La Salle students. In that year it was brother hughs of DLSU that was the NCAA president and the guest of honor for the games was The late president Elpidio Quirino.The coach of La Salle that year was Roqelio Lao and the team captain of the senior team was the person they called the man in white, Tito Eduque. In fact Ateneo beat La Salle on opening day to the tune of 31-21.

Here's something that will raise some eyebrows. Speaking about cheers, The first school to compose and sing their Alma Mater after a game was La Salle in 1966. (Not by the Senior basketball team but by the junior basketball team.)The senior basketball team of La Salle followed suite since the senior game was after their junior counterparts. San Beda composed and sang their Alma Mater next followed by Ateneo.MY father was part of that junior team and he remembers how Excited Brother Cajetan was, since he was part of the group that composed the Alma Mater of DLSU.

As a La Sallite i have to admit that the fabled blue babble batalion is one worth marveling at. Im sure that Ateneans will agree with me that their cheers are very loud and full of pride. I think that it was unfair though to say (even if it was a rumor) that the La Salle cheers were composed by people who failed to pass the Ateneo entrance exam. The Pep Squad of La Salle has it's own rich tradition as well. This cheering i feel adds to the colorful rivalry of Ateneo and De La Salle, not only on the court but up in the gallery as well. As my partner jude would say on air, Peace. :}

[anfernee]

hey, everyone!

been reading on the *very* interesting notes and *friendly* ripostes you have here. hehe

hey, LT_10! great piece of detective work. now those are facts! keep up the good work to you and kaboom! maybe we can ask someone to dig up facts about the ateneo cheers? i know the late great senator raul manglapus composed one or two, but what about the rest? taking it a step further, what about the other schools?

and when is the next ateneo-la salle game? not to say that i expect more asaran. i hope that would be lessened in this BB the next time :)

btw, am quite confused where my loyalty lies - spent time in both schools. sabihin na lang natin na whatever the result of an ateneo-la salle game is fine with me (ha! sorry for being non-committal!) the thing is, i enjoy every ateneo-la salle game! galing! you have to throw out the stats because it's all heart!

sige... stay cool, everyone!

[Ri]

HEY!

I love the ADMU-DLSU tirahan thing but maaaaan, you guys can go on FOREVER!!!! Hindi ba kayo napapagod??

[AirHare]

It's no surprise that this topic will have more replies than the others.

[csm88-02169]

This Ateneo-DLSU Rivalry is really interesting. I was wondering up to what extent this rivalry really is?

Besides basketball, the only other sports where the rivalry is apparent is in SOCCER.

Since 1995, Ateneo and La Salle have been at it at the Football Field.

Soccer Championships even rival those of basketball finals - what with the green and blue face paints, the firecrackers from each school when somebody scores and the loud drums from both squads. The ULTRA or Rizal Bleachers are even divided in a sea of blue and green.

Well, hope to see you guys not just in basketball but in SOCCER as well.

Incidentally, Ateneo is the Defending Champion, with UST in 2nd, UP in 3rd and
DLSU in 4th.

(Thanks Trinjy for the Correction)


[This message has been edited by csm88-02169 (edited 08-09-1999).]

[tr|n|ty]

hey LT_10 great job on the research! it's always refreshing to see you and Kaboom do the hosting chores..opens up doors to new guys like you and likewise, breathes in new life into an old tradition. Plus, it's great to see that you're a well-versed sportsanchor and an outstanding sportsman as well.

and hey, correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe the Football standings from last season was : 1st Ateneo, 2nd UST and 3rd UP. I'm not all too sure about it but that's what i last heard. UP team ain't too shabby =D

hmm wait a sec, what am i doing in a message board about ateneo-la salle...i'm neither from la salle nor ateneo..hehehe but seriously, this famed rivalry gives excitement to even non students of either schools. (but secretly, i cheer for our katipunan neighbor more violently..hehehe)

cheers to both ateneo and la salle..may the spirit live on!!


[This message has been edited by tr|n|ty (edited 08-05-1999).]

[REKTIKANO]

Great job Luigi, hope this clear things up for Atenista91. O, atenista91 does this satisfy your curiosity? I'm also tired with this. I hope we can comment on different topics without "hitting" any one. As far as I'm concerned, LaSalle received a lot of "hits" here more than anyone. Hey, maybe we can ask the great maderator, Kaboom to post a disclaimer stating anything posted here must not be taken seriously and must only be treated as a joke, di ba Meron?HA!HA! Well peace to everyone including Atenista91 and Meron.

[Meron]

I'm back!

Hello Rekti! I can really feel you have a heavy heart on these postings -- too seryoso! . I sense much fear in you.(being defensive and all...)

Remember what Yoda(the old alien Jedi Knight in star wars) said, "fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering." Wala, gusto ko lang malaman kung kilala mo si Yoda. :)

Speaking of jokes well here is a good one:

Rekti Bulilit got so peeved at Meron because of his jokes that he hurled a grenade at him.

What did meron do?

He picked up the grenade, pulled the pin and threw the grenade back at him. wek!wek!wek!


You know about that peanut butter joke?

PEACE !

[archerguy]

Stop all these non-sense fights.

Make love, not war! After all, it's all just a ball game, and our two schools are still friends.

[Spectator]

I have always put off reading this topic since the first time I logged in, but now that I have read it…I almost wish I didn’t do so.

So many unkind words have been exchanged from both sides, and it’s getting quite disappointing. And I’ve noticed something: It seems that a fight starts to brew whenever an Atenean (like atenista or Meron) posts an unsavory remark. I guess they have that privilege, since they did win the game last Saturday. To all the Ateneans out there, I have already posted my congratulations to your team in one of the other topics. If you read all the posts carefully, there are gracious LaSallians who congratulated you on your efforts yet what do you give back in return? Phrases like TALO KAYO, Buti nga, pikon. I know that it’s really tempting to gloat in moments of glory, but hitting below the belt is unjustifiable.

I’ll cut off this message since gDAWAL said something about essay-writing contests.

[REKTIKANO]

well, as Don said in another topic, we can refute or ignore. I choose to ignore because it's obvious nanggugulo lang ang mga iyan.

[Spectator]

OK, so let me continue. We’re all proud of our schools, and nothing hurts more than to see our school getting beaten by another, especially our fiercest rival. Please note however that whenever you try to make an argument, please make sure that they are as accurate as possible. Let me cite a few instances:
 The issue about the car, condo and cash should be put to rest. I invite you all to read my postings regarding this issue in the topic “Of recruitment and La Salle”. To make a long story short, there is no car, no condo and no cash. As far as I know, the only privileges DLSU players get from the school are stubs for free food, privilege to stay in the LS dorm and advance enrollment. Now if some megabuck La Salle alumnus decides to shell out his own cash in favor of a particular athlete…what control does a school have over those matters? It’s that person’s money, not the school’s.
 I’m glad Mr. Trillo cleared up the matter regarding the DLSU cheers. For those of you who are still skeptical, visit the DLSU website… I think the history can be read from there.

gDAWAL, I’m cutting this message again to honor your request.

[Spectator]

Lastly, I have no intention whatsoever of bragging about my credentials and accomplishments in this forum, but the serious maligning of my alma mater’s standards has caused me to do so.

Like I said in another topic, let’s stop judging a school’s standards and let’s face facts. Meron mentioned something to this effect: The only people who go to La Salle are those who failed the ACET. I beg to disagree. I took the Ateneo test and passed it. I took the UP test and passed it. I took the DLSU test and passed it. In all three schools, I got accepted in the course which was my first choice. Yet, I chose La Salle because I believed in their educational system. I won’t be a hypocrite. It’s true that I found the La Salle the easiest of the three entrance exams. But a school’s standards cannot be based on student selectivity alone. Have you ever heard of retention policies?

Here’s a quick briefer on some of La Salle’s retention policies. When a promising athlete who did not pass the DLSU exam still wants to play for the school, they are given a second chance. A special test is given to them, but once they pass this test they are placed in an athlete’s block. They have no choice but to accept the course, Bachelor of Science in Sports and Recreational Management, major in swimming, basketball and the like. The conditions are like this: If an athlete in this particular block wants to shift courses, he has to have a cumulative GPA of 2.75 (I’m not sure) at the end of the year. But if an athlete fails at least one subject in every term, he is automatically dropped from the block and from the school. If he wants to reenter, he may take yet another exam to get into the athlete’s block once again. Derrick Hubalde did not want to take this special test, so he went to UST. Santamaria was dropped from the block, and is taking the test again next term.

Finally, there are people who still manage to get in La Salle, Ateneo or UP without passing the exam. I can give you some names (and famous ones at that), who are currently studying in Ateneo but did not pass in the first place. Meron, just say so and I’ll e-mail you separately.

Just to clear things up… for my final word:
Congratulations Ateneo, we’ll see you in the next round.

[Meron]

Rekti!

FINALLY you got my message. I am just messing around here and sad to say (for you guys anyway) you were the first to blink. But it was fun while it lasted... Peace !

Hey Spec! Your discourse enlightened me a bit. I was amused at the level of seriousness -- parang di taga La Salle... parang taga BENILDE. At least you cleared one thing. Your alumni is willing to do anything just to win and its precisely because of this
that we have so much fun picking on your school... don't blame us ... blame it on your alumni. Besides if it were DLSU spending ostentatiously for your players you would be kicked out of the league -- the dinero is with the Alumni.

In effect, do you really have an amateur team or professional team? I pick the latter. Kung sabagay it makes good business sense to win the championship at all cost because it makes good advertising for the school. More students, more enrollment, more cash, more diplomas to give.

I don't need your list of delinquent Ateneans. I knew a handful during my stint in Ateneo. 50% or so have been kicked out and have transferred to well sorry to say a certain school in taft. Although I heard that this school has improved their standards by throwing their trash "sa Tafat."

Cheers!
Kaya sa inyo na ang basketball... it just feels good to beat somebody who has mixed school pride with GREENBACKS. Its humiliating to lose knowing the fact that a lot of money has been spent on building a (PRO) team and yet loses to an underdog archrival.

Cheers!

[archerguy]

Cheers to you too Meron!

Ateneo must be proud of you for your support.
A MILLION congratulations to the Blue Eagles for beating the De La Salle Green Archers on their first round match! To fellow Lasallians (or Lasallites), there's still the second round, and the final four round and the championship round (if we're fortunate). Let's just see what happens and aim for victory!

To Mr. Meron: Please consider stopping these message fights.
But if you're the type who finds joy in bashing the other teams because of your glorious victory, BAHALA KA NA. Basta ang alam ko, HUMILITY IS A VIRTUE. And I think that's an Atenean trait right?

[Spectator]

I thought my string of messages would finally get Meron to stop, how wrong I was!

To Meron---what did you mean by the phrase "surprised at your level of seriousness...parang hindi taga-La Salle parang taga-BENILDE" If it was meant as a joke, I sure didn't find it funny.

"Your alumni is willing to do anything just to win..." I hope you don't eat your words. Willing to do anything to win? What about the Ateneo alumni's spending for the trip to Korea, their failed effort to recruit Ma Jian's brother, and their acquisition of a non-alumnus to coach their beloved team? Sounds like desperation to me.

"a lot of money has been spent..." I wonder how much the above-metioned efforts cost?

[Jevi]

Wow, this BB is really burning!

JUST IGNORE HIM. THIS GUY IS JUST PULLING YOUR LEG.

[Meron]

Spectatotoy,

Whats so bad about being compared to BENILDE?

A PRO team gets paid in cash for their services. Over at your camp its called an allowance like 15K a month plus the juicy guaranteed diploma.(the car issue is still debatable for me) If you don't believe me then ask BJ. Hey BJ did make the practical choice because he really wants to concentrate on his BBALL career and life would be easier for him with you guys. And if he busts his knees again well he still has his Benilde errr este I mean DLSU diploma to be proud of right? Ask him if his guidance counselor in Highschool specifically told him to still study inspite of the perks he is getting.

But this is where you draw the line between defining a PRO team and an amateur team. I am thankful that finally the Ateneo alumni is helping out the team like training abroad and hiring a much better coach.(that Molina guy really sucks professionally speaking ofcourse) But it has its limitations and its no free ride in getting the much coveted Ateneo diploma let alone a salary or an allowance.

Ma Ming was an exchange student so basicly no entrance examinations were given to him. In order to be eligible for the UAAP he needed to pass the entrance test. But he did not even get to that point since even as an exchange student he was performing badly. If he had gone to you guys he could have had a better chance of making it -- remember LIM ENG BENG? If not ask your Daddy about him.

Jevi,

Right on! Now you know. Daming kasing PIKON dito. :)

Archer guy,

Goodluck to you too. Dapat naman MANALO kayo kundi sayang ang PERKS.

PEACE.

[:)]

To all concerned: HUWAG NANG PANSININ SI MERON DAHIL I THINK HE IS A DESPERATE, REDICULOUS *** NA MASYADONG INGGIT SA DLSU.....BAKA HINDI NAKAPASA TO SA DLSU KAYA KUNG ANOANO ANG NILALAIT....SIGURO NABABAKLA ITO KAY BJ MANALO KAYA PURO LAIT SA KANYA...BAKA DI NYA MATANGGAP NA HIWALAY NA SILA AT NASA DLSU NA SI BJ.....? WAHAHAHAHA!

[Spectator]

:)...point taken. I'll refrain from posting any further messages to this Meron guy. Respect the elders na lang. Let's just see who'll get the last laugh.

[Jevi]

Whew! At last everybody got to their senses. Anyway, just wanted to say that this Ateneo-La Salle rivalry won't even be what it is if both sides are not worth to be pitted against each other. That's what makes this storied and classic rivalry so interesting.

[Rockgardener]

Whoa..Lim Eng Beng?..
Please..I just had terrible flashbacks!
The proverbial dagger in the heart...
I can still visualize his deadly fade away..or that great dribble / stop jump
shot..Ateneo looses again...championship pa.
Upakan nalang sa labas nang Araneta..
LEB graduates..thank God..Ateneo wins back
to back double double championships at
San Bedas expense...and leaves the NC's
kasi too violent daw..



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[atenista91]

Meron, good job on your postings!

Spectator, why do you want this to stop? all we're really doing is clearing up some misconceptions (thanks LT with that spiel on the cheers) that Ateneans have with regards to La Salle. What's wrong with that? Isn't that what this forum is for?

Rektikano, why so insecure? All I did was ask some questions tapos na-hurt ka na? If what was implied by my questions wasn't true, then speak out and refute me. If you don't know how to refute me, then I must say na you have no right to present yourself as a die-hard lasallite dahil very basic lang naman ang mga tinatanong ko. Maybe its the realization of this fact that hurts you - hindi mo kayang i-defend ang school mo.

[Spectator]

I should have known that atenista would defend Meron. To atenista: Syempre "good job" kasi you're also one of those who wrote below-the-belt attacks on DLSU. Like someone posted earlier, it's okay if you insult or criticize the DLSU basketball team because that's what this forum is all about. But when you direct your attacks to the school itself, I think that's way out of line. Misconceptions? I think that's your way of sugar-coating the insults you've hurled at DLSU. Why did you have to say that DLSU cheers were copied from ADMU's? As it turned out, nauna pa pala yung cheers ng DLSU. But you intentionally had to write down "composed by former Ateneans who didn't pass the ACET." Don't tell me you had no malicious intent when you wrote that down.



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[Meron]

Haha! Finally Specky realized his / her or its mistake of being too serious and defensive. This is my last post because I have succeeded in getting you archer fans pissed. That was my goal and it was really fun. Anyway I end my conquest with a joke.

THE PEANUT BUTTER JOKE

Three mothers were grieving in funeraria paz because of the death of their children. Cause of death was suicide. The three kids studied in ADMU,UP, and dlsu respectively.

The mother of the Atenean said, "Boo hoo hoo! Had I known my son hated peanut butter I would not have served him peanut butter sandwich. Thats why he shot himself on the head!"

The mother of the UP student discoursed, " BWAHHHHHH!!!! Kung alam ko lang ang aking tanging anak kinmumuhian ang letseng peanut butter na yan eh di ko na sana siya binaunan ng lintik na peanut butter at pandesal! Hayun! Nag harakiri tuloy sa tapat ng oblation! AHHHHH!!!"

Finally the mother of the la sallite cried out loudly (like the way the pep squad squeals),"I don't understand (common phrased used by la sallites)! Kasi alam ko ayaw rin ni konyito bunsoy ang peanut butter. But alas! He also killed himself by holding his breath. Hik hik ahik! Eh kaso lang nga siya naman ang naghahanda ng baon niya.... BWAAAAHHHHH!!!"

Adieu. Sayonora. Ciao. Magis to the la sallites... if you can.

"Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam"

[anfernee]

hmmm? we're nearing the 100th post mark, proving this is the most popular topic in this board. frankly, it's getting kinda tiring. we're just going around in circles. what do you say, we end this topic? what do you think, kaboom?

let's just start another similar, hopefully less 'hurtful'(?), topic in the next meeting of ADMU and DLSU.

So, ano, ceasefire for now? as kaboom would say, peace! :)

[Rockgardener]

Meron,
Blithely as it may appear, how can you
end an insult by saying 'Ad Majorem Dei
Gloriam'?..
I'm from the old school, but that's the first time I've seen our motto used that way.
I know your blood runs blue, but there's
other ways to show your colors.
Peace

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[AirHare]

August 28. It's time to bring back the spotlight to the two arch rivals.

Don Allado will be LaSalle's barometer versus Ateneo this Saturday. If Allado will not play his usual game, expect LaSalle to be swept by Ateneo in the eliminations.

I also expect BJ Manalo to deliver the goods versus the Ateneo defenders.

Good Luck to LaSalle this Saturday!!

[ebtg]

I'm a UP student and I could care less about what goes on inside Ateneo and La Salle but, really, I have to say this: Of all the threads in PEx, this is, by far, the most hilarious I have seen.

Below-the-belt potshots are flying off from users like crazy, school pride is so dense in the air you can almost feel it!

Can anyone PLEASE explain to me HOW this rivalry started? Is it limited to UAAP basketball and soccer games only? WHAT GIVES?!

[ebtg]

Forget it. I saw another thread which explains the history of the rivalry. Interesting.