2001 Philippine Bar Examinations

[sedfrey]

Good luck to all the barristers who are taking the bar this whole month of October!

So how was Consti and Labor?

[sedfrey]

Oops, this month is September nga pala. :)

Doc Ira, what do you think of the saying that the Bar Examinations is the most difficult professional test in the Philippines?

Actually, I think the only way to find out for sure is to take both. I don't really want to find out for myself. :)

The Bar in the US is supposedly a lot easier than the bar in RP daw. You don't even have to be an American citizen to take it.

[eponine07]

Originally posted by sedfrey
Oops, this month is September nga pala. :)

Doc Ira, what do you think of the saying that the Bar Examinations is the most difficult professional test in the Philippines?

Actually, I think the only way to find out for sure is to take both. I don't really want to find out for myself. :)

The Bar in the US is supposedly a lot easier than the bar in RP daw. You don't even have to be an American citizen to take it.

consti was quite easy. mostly cases, maybe one or two questions on principles. my friend finished at 10:35am.

labor's another thing. every bar candidate i met said that not only was it long, but it was procedural.



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[sedfrey]

Yeah, I heard. Hmm... maybe the Supreme Court wants to see how we can make sense of the whole mess that they themselves made in the first place. You know, the problem with Labor is, it can be as easy or as difficult as the teacher wants it to be. Sigh.

Eponine07, are you a head in a bar subject sa bar ops?

[eponine07]

Originally posted by sedfrey
Yeah, I heard. Hmm... maybe the Supreme Court wants to see how we can make sense of the whole mess that they themselves made in the first place. You know, the problem with Labor is, it can be as easy or as difficult as the teacher wants it to be. Sigh.

Eponine07, are you a head in a bar subject sa bar ops?

they say that the labor exams were made difficult because the examinees always found that part of the bar easy.

to answer your question, sedfrey, no, i am not. i helped out in the crim and civil subjects, typing out the last minute lectures and assembling the reviewers a couple of months ago.



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[sedfrey]

hi eponine07,

you know, I was actually expecting that political law would be more difficult, especially with all the new things that are happening that are related to consti.

[SUX2BU]

Good luck to Mr. Russell Rodriguez, the next bar topnotcher! Libre ha! :glee:

[Ira]

Originally posted by sedfrey
Doc Ira, what do you think of the saying that the Bar Examinations is the most difficult professional test in the Philippines?


It's a good thing someone told me that there was a query in this thread addressed to me. Kasi naman bakit dito pa tinanong! ;)

Regarding the bar exams being the most difficult PRC-administered test, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case. I personally found the physicians' board exams pretty manageable (of course, it's assumed that one has already prepared well for it), and I assume a lot of other physicians felt likewise. I was able to get my hands on all the board exams given 7 years prior to my taking it, and they were in the same level of difficulty. With the boards, if you study properly, it's almost impossible to flunk it. I don't think it's the same case with the bar? But hey, I'll probably know soon. A doctor friend of mine quit ER medicine and enrolled in UP Law--he's taking his bar exams either this year or the next. Maybe he'll tell me which was harder for him. He'll probably also say the bar exams was harder. :)

[sedfrey]

hi doc ira!

thanks for the reply! :) I think the additional thing that makes the bar more difficult is the subjective aspect of the checking of the exam. For instance, in medtech or medical board exams, you have mostly multiple choice questions. In the bar, it's all essay. So if the examiner doesn't like your penmanship or doesn't like the way you arranged your sentence or didn't understand a word, he could mark it wrong or not give full points.

sabi daw, there are moves to make the bar exam multiple choice. what do you think of this eponine07? sux2bu, are you a law student also?

[sedfrey]

so, any tips for our barristers in civil law and tax law?

good luck to all the ateneo barristers!

atty. robles who teaches property says, there's always something about a builder/planter/sower who builds/plants/sows on land that he does not own.

[eponine07]

Originally posted by SUX2BU
Good luck to Mr. Russell Rodriguez, the next bar topnotcher! Libre ha! :glee:

kilala mo si russell? classmate ko sya nung 1st year kami sa uplaw! :)

[sedfrey]

eponine07, was russell from Ateneo Loyola? Atty. Robles says that one of his bar bets is a UP valedictorian who got his undergrad from Loyola.

[SUX2BU]

No. Russell never attended the Ateneo. And yes, I know him. He's my best friend's bro. Go SUPERVARSIFRIENDS! :)

Sikat na si Russell! :glee:

[fReAk]

wala lang nanggugulo lang

[Cerberus]

Ako magta-top sa Bar. Hehe... Sa 2005 pa nga lang. :D

[eenie]

kelan ba lalabas ang results?

[sedfrey]

Rule 138 (yata) of the Rules of Court say, the results should be out by Feb. 30 the latest. Pero last year, it came out around May na yata. Eenie, are you a barrister?

[eponine07]

Originally posted by SUX2BU
No. Russell never attended the Ateneo. And yes, I know him. He's my best friend's bro. Go SUPERVARSIFRIENDS! :)

Sikat na si Russell! :glee:

russell is a pol sci graduate from up diliman. cum laude yata. he's also sk kagawad in one barangay sa pque.

aba, sikat na pala sya. :)



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[eponine07]

i heard that next year's examiner is justice mendoza. our teachers have been telling this year's graduating class that if we can help it, wag daw muna kami mag-take ng exam next year.

oh, no.



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[cretinous00]

i have a friend. he's a doctor and a lawyer (one of only three i've heard in the phils). he said when it comes to academics, med proper is tougher by several exponents. when it comes to the board/bar exams, the med test is still tougher but the bar exam can give you a good scare.

those were his words.

[eponine07]

Originally posted by sedfrey

sabi daw, there are moves to make the bar exam multiple choice. what do you think of this eponine07?

hi sedfrey!

multiple choice bar exams...not bad. but it's going to be unfair for those who took past essay-type bar exams.


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[rukawa_11]

where can if find info about the 2000 bar exams? ......particularly the schools involved.

[eponine07]

Originally posted by rukawa_11
where can if find info about the 2000 bar exams? ......particularly the schools involved.

you could try www.supremecourt.gov.ph .




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[eponine07]

Originally posted by sedfrey
eponine07, was russell from Ateneo Loyola? Atty. Robles says that one of his bar bets is a UP valedictorian who got his undergrad from Loyola.

i think i know who he's referring to. i think it's pong ponferrada. he was a legal management gradaute from ateneo, and i think he's one of the contenders for the top position. i think he was the valedictorian.



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[cretinous00]

valedictorian in his UP-law batch? the odds say he won't top the bar. no validictorian from UP-law has EVER topped the bar. makes one wonder what priorities law schools have and what questions they ask in the bar.

:rolleyes:

[charlie_g]

Sure yan. UP na naman ang mag top ng BAR.

[sedfrey]

eponine07, i heard that thought madali si Justice Sabino de Leon, pero this year's bar exam was one of the most difficult daw. They say there's a pattern na madali one year, mahirap next year. So theoretically, madali next year. :) I'm a sophomore right now, so when I take the bar, madali na rin dapat. :)

cretinous, they say that valedictorians (kahit sa ateneo) really have a hard time topping the bar. it's always the number 2 who top the bar. Siguro pag number 1, sobrang pressured that you end up making small funny mistakes.

[eponine07]

Originally posted by sedfrey
eponine07, i heard that thought madali si Justice Sabino de Leon, pero this year's bar exam was one of the most difficult daw. They say there's a pattern na madali one year, mahirap next year. So theoretically, madali next year. :) I'm a sophomore right now, so when I take the bar, madali na rin dapat. :)

cretinous, they say that valedictorians (kahit sa ateneo) really have a hard time topping the bar. it's always the number 2 who top the bar. Siguro pag number 1, sobrang pressured that you end up making small funny mistakes.

hi sedfrey!

well, sana nga it's going to be easier next year, kasi i'm planning to take the bar by september (hopefully, if things go right :D).

and in a way, you're right about the valedictorian not topping the bar. siguro nga it's the pressure. i know of this one valedictorian, twice na sya nag-take ng bar, pero she still hasn't passed it. and to think that when she was still in law school, talagang all the profs had nothing but praises for her. during her first take, yun pang mga people not expected to pass ang pumasa sa bar exam.

question: does karma have anything to do with passing the bar?


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[eponine07]

Originally posted by sedfrey
eponine07, i heard that thought madali si Justice Sabino de Leon, pero this year's bar exam was one of the most difficult daw. They say there's a pattern na madali one year, mahirap next year. So theoretically, madali next year. :) I'm a sophomore right now, so when I take the bar, madali na rin dapat. :)

cretinous, they say that valedictorians (kahit sa ateneo) really have a hard time topping the bar. it's always the number 2 who top the bar. Siguro pag number 1, sobrang pressured that you end up making small funny mistakes.

hi sedfrey!

well, sana nga it's going to be easier next year, kasi i'm planning to take the bar by september (hopefully, if things go right :D).

and in a way, you're right about the valedictorian not topping the bar. siguro nga it's the pressure. i know of this one valedictorian, twice na sya nag-take ng bar, pero she still hasn't passed it. and to think that when she was still in law school, talagang all the profs had nothing but praises for her. during her first take, yun pang mga people not expected to pass ang pumasa sa bar exam.

question: does karma have anything to do with passing the bar?




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[sedfrey]

First, according to the technical definition of karma, the answer would be no, kasi you feel the effects of karma, supposedly, in your next life. For example, Erap would be born in his next life as a pig.

Second, I believe that all of us determine our fates! :) Except class valedictorians that is. :cool:

[eponine07]

Originally posted by sedfrey
First, according to the technical definition of karma, the answer would be no, kasi you feel the effects of karma, supposedly, in your next life. For example, Erap would be born in his next life as a pig.

Second, I believe that all of us determine our fates! :) Except class valedictorians that is. :cool:

sedfrey:

oh, ok. and i thought that all my good deeds now would pay off later on when i take the bar. :)



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[Eterna]

Originally posted by eponine07
i heard that next year's examiner is justice mendoza. our teachers have been telling this year's graduating class that if we can help it, wag daw muna kami mag-take ng exam next year.

oh, no.



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Please elaborate. I have friends taking the bar next year.

[eponine07]

Originally posted by Eterna


Please elaborate. I have friends taking the bar next year.

well, my friends who graduated this sem were told that justice mendoza is very strict when it comes to checking papers. i don't know about the questions, but our teacher (who works in the supreme court) said that justice mendoza wants only a small percentage to pass the bar and join what he calls the "most noble profession."


sedfrey:

i passed commercial law and criminal law! :) celebration time!!! :D



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[jensen16]

Originally posted by SUX2BU
Good luck to Mr. Russell Rodriguez, the next bar topnotcher! Libre ha! :glee:

How do you know Russel R? He used to be my blockmate in college, did not know that he has quite a fan's club here :)

[sedfrey]

hi eponine07!!

congratulations!! looks like you and justice mendoza will have a duel next september!! :)

[eponine07]

Originally posted by sedfrey
hi eponine07!!

congratulations!! looks like you and justice mendoza will have a duel next september!! :)

thanks. :D but i still have the second semester to deal with. hang tax review!!! :D


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[rao]

Originally posted by sedfrey
Good luck to all the barristers who are taking the bar this whole month of October!

So how was Consti and Labor?


di ba kapag barrister, lawyer na yon? Kung lawyer na, ba't nag e exam pa?


according to Merriam Webster:

barrister - a counsel admitted to plead at the bar and undertake the public trial of causes in an English superior court

see http://www.m-w.com/dictionary.htm

Sedfrey, if you are lawyer,
God help the Philippines

[sedfrey]

Hi Rao! :)

No, I'm not a lawyer. Yes, in other jurisdictions, barrister refers to a practitioner of the law. That is why the definition you provided us is accurate, hence:

barrister - a counsel admitted to plead at the bar and undertake the public trial of causes in an ENGLISH SUPERIOR COURT.

But in the Philippines, barrister generally means persons who are about to take the bar. Those who are awaiting bar exam results are called "underbar".

[rao]

Originally posted by sedfrey
Hi Rao! :)

But in the Philippines, barrister generally means persons who are about to take the bar. Those who are awaiting bar exam results are called "underbar".


I see, ganyan pala sa atin? para palang "salvage" yan, me kakaibang meaning sa Pilipinas

[Cerberus]

Originally posted by eponine07
justice mendoza wants only a small percentage to pass the bar and join what he calls the "most noble profession."


Wow. I didn't know "nobility" is now gauged by exams. :glee:

[iskolar]

ahhh basta . . ang masasabi ko lang sa mga future lawyers jan . . huwag nyong tutularan si MIRIAM SANTIGO :D

[UST_BOY]

Bilib na rin ako sa UP law kaso dahil dyan sa MIRIAM na yan!
BEST LAW SCHOOLS
In certified correct order:
1. ATENEO
2. UP
3. SAN BEDA
4. UST-justice narvasa, Manuel L. Quezon, Liway Chato,Diosdado Macapagal. UST's passing rate 78% NOT BAD!

[bbtanya]

for litigation and trial law:
UP

for corporate and business law:
Ateneo

:cool:

[bbtanya]

AM+DG

[go_figure]

GO SAN BEDA!!! :D :D :D

[sedfrey]

*bump*

Lapit na ng results!

Good luck to all those who are waiting in white knuckle anticipation!

[justicia]

If you don't mind when will be the result???

March 19? I heard that it will be on the newspaper. Which newspaper??

[PUGSLEY]

Originally posted by justicia
If you don't mind when will be the result???

March 19? I heard that it will be on the newspaper. Which newspaper??

Bar Examination Results are always of national interest. So newspapers of general circulation always get a copy of the passers.

Try Manila Bulletin, Philippine Star, and Philippine Daily Inquirer

[Diego22]

Mga Future Panyero at Panyera sino ba chairman ng bar examinations ngayong 2002?

sana wala ng gulo unlike last year na me nagbugbugan from Arellano and San Beda.

[PUGSLEY]

Originally posted by Diego22
Mga Future Panyero at Panyera sino ba chairman ng bar examinations ngayong 2002?

sana wala ng gulo unlike last year na me nagbugbugan from Arellano and San Beda.

Last year's chairman was JUSTICE SABINO DE LEON

This year its JUSTICE VICENTE MENDOZA

[homo_erectus76]

hi fellow future lawyers...hope im welcome here...im from ust faculty of civil law
totoo ba na si justice mendoza ang chairman this year? sabi kasi ng prof namin (justice benipayo), si justice melo daw...
congrats pala sa mga law students who will graduate this year...

[quilava]

homo_erectus, prof ka sa UST? Cool!

nyway, yep, si mendoza yung examiner this year.

[Diego22]

Sana di na mangyari yung mga issues like what happened to
Justice Purissima and his nephew.

[PUGSLEY]

Originally posted by homo_erectus76
hi fellow future lawyers...hope im welcome here...im from ust faculty of civil law
totoo ba na si justice mendoza ang chairman this year? sabi kasi ng prof namin (justice benipayo), si justice melo daw...
congrats pala sa mga law students who will graduate this year...

Are you a faculty member? Whoa!!!

I think most law schools already know the chairman of this years exam

[giftedchild]

ANIMO SAN BEDA!!!!

[eponine0907]

Originally posted by cretinous00
valedictorian in his UP-law batch? the odds say he won't top the bar. no validictorian from UP-law has EVER topped the bar. makes one wonder what priorities law schools have and what questions they ask in the bar.

:rolleyes:

[eponine0907]

Originally posted by cretinous00
valedictorian in his UP-law batch? the odds say he won't top the bar. no validictorian from UP-law has EVER topped the bar. makes one wonder what priorities law schools have and what questions they ask in the bar.

:rolleyes:

posted on october 20, 2001.

and now...UPLaw's valedictorian did top the bar, beating the no. 2 by more than 3%.

[Gangreen]

Top 10

1. Rodolfo Ponferrada -- 93.8% -- UP Law; Ateneo BS Business Mgt Honors
2. Jesus Paolo Protacio -- 90.05% -- ATENEO
3. Anthony Mark Gutierrez -- 89.85% -- ATENEO
4. Solomon Lumba -- 88.55% -- UP
5. Katrina Monsod -- 88.5% -- ATENEO
6. Ma. Theresa Ballelos -- 88.4% -- UP
7. Amabelle Mascardo -- 88.35% -- SILLIMAN
8. Adonis Gabriel -- 88.25% -- SBC
9. John Noah Red -- 88.1% -- ATENEO
10. Dante Bravo -- 87.95% -- SBC

5/10 of the top 10 from Ateneo!

Not bad!

[eponine0907]

Originally posted by Gangreen
Top 10

1. Rodolfo Ponferrada -- 93.8% -- UP Law; Ateneo BS Business Mgt Honors
2. Jesus Paolo Protacio -- 90.05% -- ATENEO
3. Anthony Mark Gutierrez -- 89.85% -- ATENEO
4. Solomon Lumba -- 88.55% -- UP
5. Katrina Monsod -- 88.5% -- ATENEO
6. Ma. Theresa Ballelos -- 88.4% -- UP
7. Amabelle Mascardo -- 88.35% -- SILLIMAN
8. Adonis Gabriel -- 88.25% -- SBC
9. John Noah Red -- 88.1% -- ATENEO
10. Dante Bravo -- 87.95% -- SBC

5/10 of the top 10 from Ateneo!

Not bad!

paolo protacio graduated magna cum laude from UP diliman with a degree in political science.


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[kuyabodjie]

anthony mark gutierrez, who's from ateneo law and ranked #3 in the bar exams, was a bs business ad & accountancy grad from up. (got that from the inquirer, btw)

i guess having a up undergrad degree and an ateneo law degree makes for a good combo, and vice versa.

[PUGSLEY]

ATTY. WRENOLPH PANGANIBAN congratulations!!!

[cs_NOGNOG]

mga Atenista ang k*pal ng mukha inaangkin si Ponferrada. E hindi naman true blue Atenean yon e.

Ba't kaya nag aral si Ponferrada sa UP Law? Baka kc pag dating sa Law School mas okay sa UP!

[Killer]

Sinong nag no.1 sa passing percentage???

[mac_bolan00]

definitely not san beda :D

[Fortune]

UP maybe
they had i think 82 of 84

[seven_of_nine]

Originally posted by homo_erectus76
hi fellow future lawyers...hope im welcome here...im from ust faculty of civil law
totoo ba na si justice mendoza ang chairman this year? sabi kasi ng prof namin (justice benipayo), si justice melo daw...
congrats pala sa mga law students who will graduate this year... Off topic: Bakit nga ba Faculty of Civil Law and tawag sa law school ng UST? Bakit hindi Faculty of Criminal law or Faculty of Labor Law, etc.? Serious Question ito. Curious lang po.

[pongster]

[QUOTE=Gangreen]Top 10

1. Rodolfo Ponferrada -- 93.8% -- UP Law; Ateneo BS Business Mgt Honors
2. Jesus Paolo Protacio -- 90.05% -- ATENEO
3. Anthony Mark Gutierrez -- 89.85% -- ATENEO
4. Solomon Lumba -- 88.55% -- UP
5. Katrina Monsod -- 88.5% -- ATENEO
6. Ma. Theresa Ballelos -- 88.4% -- UP
7. Amabelle Mascardo -- 88.35% -- SILLIMAN
8. Adonis Gabriel -- 88.25% -- SBC
9. John Noah Red -- 88.1% -- ATENEO
10. Dante Bravo -- 87.95% -- SBC

5/10 of the top 10 from Ateneo!

sometime after topping the bar, messrs. ponferrada, protacio, gutierrez and gabriel found themselves working with each other at the prestigious SyCip Salazar Hernandez & Gatmaitan Law Offices (the biggest law firm in the country and the most widely know Filipino law office in the world). The four not only made use of their skills in the court room but they also displayed their know-how in the basketball court competing against other law firms.

what a great recruitment year it was for SSHG. the valedictorians of the top three law schools (ponferrada from UP, protacio from Ateneo and gabriel from San Beda) and four out of the bar topnotchers (including the top three).

unfortunately, the four are no longer working together. mr. ponferrada has moved on to public service while mr. gabriel proceeded to get married and to a quiet corporate life. messrs. protacio and gutierrez are still with the firm.

if lady luck would have her way, the four (or a significant proportion) might be back together in another law office.

till the next update....

[atenean_blooded]

SyCip? Isn't ACCRA more prestigious?

[dexXA]

Even ACCRA - the number one law firm in corporate law - is dominated by UP Lawyers.

[pongster]

SyCip? Isn't ACCRA more prestigious?

Frankly, prestige is matter of perception. To get a better and (hopefully) objective appreciation of the matter, I suggest you visit:

http://www.legal500.com/as500/frames/ph_fr.htm

[EverAfter]

i have a friend. he's a doctor and a lawyer (one of only three i've heard in the phils). he said when it comes to academics, med proper is tougher by several exponents. when it comes to the board/bar exams, the med test is still tougher but the bar exam can give you a good scare.

those were his words.

tony reb? :D

:spinstar:

[tRiStAn]

Wow. I didn't know "nobility" is now gauged by exams. :glee:

You may laugh at that, but also in the actuarial profession, not a few say that's just the case. And we're not talking about just one exam here. ;)

Perhaps E. Mendoza is just talking economics: the fewer lawyers there are, the higher their market value. :D