AMA is the country's top school in ICT

[gobbledygook]

Have you heard that AMA is the country's top performing school in Information and Communication Technology.?
Well, you got that right. According to CHED they conducted a survey among private and state universities and colleges in the country to determine who is the highly regarded IT school in the country. I think there were 80 respondents for the study and each university was asked to rate other universities in a scale of 1-5.
The result of the survey? (It's ...ahhh nevermind) Well here it is..
1. AMA Computer College
2. De La Salle University Manila
3. STI Computer School
4. Ateneo de Manila University
5. University of the Philippines Diliman

It's just a little surprising that AMA Computer school , which has barely reached 20 years of existence, has toppled down very formidable and reputable schools like De La Salle, Ateneo And UP. I guess, the Ivy League schools of the Philippines should start doing something to regain their reputable stance in the history of Philippine Tertiary Education. Still, this is a good sign that other schools like AMA nd STI are able to keep up with the challenge in providing quality education.

[wInD_bLoWn]

ay walang pumapansin. :lol:

[Les]

The sample size is too small for me. Besides, I really don't trust rankings released by CHED.

[ricey]

i'd rather go and see for myself than trust rankings released by CHED. just look at their curriculum. its a damned diploma mill.

[Chad]

I agree: the sample size is too small. Post the CHED's statistical method and let's see if the survey accurately reflects the true state of Information Technology education here in the Philippines.

Besides, I have yet to meet or hear about a graduate from AMA or STI who has made it big in the field of IT. If you know of anyone, please post them so we may know.

:bop:
Chad

[JaggerAugustine]

I need more reliable proof that AMA toppled down UP, Ateneo, and LASALLE? Huh how come? I also agree that the sample size is too SMALL... well, university based education is rather than better than JOLINA FASHIONED
SCHOOL... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Light&Easy]

ama-start your future here???!!!sounds like "The Future begins here" =========ngekzzzzzzzzz:evil_lol::bashful:

too much hype,and sales talking but a bit far from what they picture themselves to be!sometimes when you concentrate on the FORM and miss to work on THE SUBSTANCE! the PRODUCT IS A BIG FAT EGG!!!!:smokin::evil_lol:

[unashamedusher]

gobbledygook: where did you see this survey?

[archerguy]

I read about this too in last Sunday's Manila Bulletin. They even commissioned the SWS to do a similar survey and again topped it. Well for me the results are no surprise at all because AMA has invested heavily in tri-media advertisements; so when the surveys ask ordinary people what IT school they think is best--then AMA is first in their mind. And besides the top 3 school in IT (DLSU, UP and ADMUJ) need not be bothered by a survey commissioned by a school whose students do not undergo difficult entrance exams. AMA accepts all students who can afford their fees.


[Edited by archerguy on 05-29-2001 at 11:08 PM]

[ziggyboy]

:lol:

[Chad]

Archerguy: good point.

The fact that AMA invests heavily on tri-media advertising means that the AMA brand awareness is high. But the point is -- why do you need to advertise in the first place? Can't you let your graduates speak for themselves?

:bop:
Chad

[gobbledygook]

Well, even La Salle can't just rely on it's graduates to prove that they are the best learning instution. There is still and will always be a need for the school to market itself any which way it could. If I remember correctly, De La Salle even won 2 Anvil awards this year, that itself is a manifestation that the insititution consistently looks and innovates various means to attract its future clientele.

[Edited by gobbledygook on 05-30-2001 at 09:43 PM]

[archerguy]

gobbledygook: You have a point. In fact I've always admired the string of AMA (A-M-A) commercials that their ad agency introduced last year. Those commercials sans the Jolina ones have truly uplifted AMA's image as a high-tech IT School. Maybe AMA patterned those commercials after La Salle's successful "The Future Begins Here" campaign (which is a consistent Anvil Awardee for Excellence in Marketing), as mentioned by Light & Easy. There's actually nothing wrong with it but let me just point out that those print ad campaigns by La Salle are aimed at convincing top students in high school to consider studying in La Salle because of its strengths. AMA also does the same, but more on increasing their 'brand awareness' in the general public.

[weewit91]

The ultimate standard for measuring the quality of education should be the standing of graduates and the R & D output of a university/college in innovating or creating new knowledge frontiers.

AMACC should use these two criterias when boasting about their standing. They probably wouldn't dare submit themselves to scrutiny using these criterias. ;)

[Braveheart]

ah come on, enough of sourgraping. what do you call that? mental...mentality...crabby...crab...mental...crabby...mentality...crab mentality! oh yeah. AMA is the no. 1 computer school in the philippines! i believe that all the schools who participated were evaluated in equal footing, eh mas lumamang ang AMA after the evaluation so tanggapin na lang natin. mga pilipino talaga. tsk tsk tsk. jeeezzzusssss.

[Les]

Originally posted by Braveheart
...so tanggapin na lang natin...

I don't just accept anything that comes shoveled my way. Throwing critical analysis out the window is a sure way to get bamboozled.

Anyway as the guys said previously, if a school is comfortable with its standing then it doesn't have to resort to commercials - something that AMA does heavily.

[atenean83]

Originally posted by gobbledygook
If I remember correctly, De La Salle even one 2 Anvil awards this year,

- example of using homonyms on spelling...

Well I just want to point out that the general image of AMA on the public is baksakan ng mga bagsak (and an easy summer school for those who have failed their subjs.)

By the way, any URL, clippings, or magazines that will support your own made survey above? Weak standings uh.....

[gobbledygook]

my mistake. Thanks for pointing it out.

[JaggerAugustine]

Originally posted by atenean83
Originally posted by gobbledygook
If I remember correctly, De La Salle even one 2 Anvil awards this year,

- example of using homonyms on spelling...

Well I just want to point out that the general image of AMA on the public is baksakan ng mga bagsak (and an easy summer school for those who have failed their subjs.)

By the way, any URL, clippings, or magazines that will support your own made survey above? Weak standings uh.....

EXAMPLE OF A BOASTFUL HYPE UH?

[skindeep]

I must agree that the sample size is a bit small.

There is a possibility that some people might have answered AMA because it was the only school that they know that offers a quality IT educ. (can be attributed to their commercials and after the 'ILOVEYOU' virus fiasco)

They might not be aware that DLSU,ADMU and UP offer such specializations.This can be largely attributed to fact that these schools offer only limited slots to the best students,unlike AMA who's practically opening doors to everyone

[MangDyak]

yeah its unfair to generalize (the ranking of the school) based on the opinion of 80 individuals. You dont even know if those 80 know what IT is all about :D :D :D

And School Popularity among the masses is not the right basis in determining the school's ranking on quality education.

[Jeremy Darwin]

baka naman ang mga 80 respondents na iyon ay taga AMA ??? ;)

[sfoz]

http://www.sti.edu.ph/seal1.jpg

[tungkong_langit]

***** taga-AMA ka gobbledygook? six years ako sa college and i've been to five colleges/universities at isa na ang AMACC don. after 1 sem, nagtransfer na ko. grabee!!! ang mga instructors, incompetent! mali-mali pang mag-english. karamihan sa kanila fresh grad sa coll! nakakaharap namain sa competition ***, yukky ang mga students!

[cyberhip]

:crazytongue: and for the achievements of AMA let's give them:bashful: ......(drum roll)....the JOLINA AWARD.....(applause, applause).:grinroll: :rotflmao: :rotfl::revomit:

[j&g]

80 respondents? is this sample enough to prove that AMA is the best when it comes to ICT? hmmm...

baka naman yang 80 respondents na yan are from AMA halos lahat! and 80 is just 80! too small para mapatunayan ng CHED na da best ang AMA!

teka, baka naman may reason kung *** AMA ang nag-top sa survey...(i got this from an email)

1.)demographic location... talo na kame dito dahil iisa lang ang campus namin... eh ang AMA, kahit saan meron...

2)enrollment... mas madami *** compared to DLSU na 500 students per batch lang! and when it comes to tuission and fees, mas affordable sa AMA...

hmmm...

[KoLd_FuZ1oN]

Do you think the best high school graduates would consider AMA? Syempre hindi! It's DLSU, ADMU or UP! but not AMA.

[Sunny_Orange]

siguro tignan naman nila kung sino ang mga nakakakuha ng high paying jobs at nakakarating ng ibang bansa like japan and US .. yun lang ... im from UST and my school is not even on the list, pero ok lang hate ko naman ang teachers ko sa USTE eh ....

[Pepe]

I wonder why AMA faculty members are attending seminars conducted by UP Diliman Computer Science faculty members... maybe because AMA faculty members need to learn MORE from UP Diliman''s Computer Science professors? Just *MY* speculation.

[chobas_angel]

Originally posted by wInD_bLoWn
ay walang pumapansin. :lol:

:rotflmao:
hehe... ok sa hirit...

[chobas_angel]

baka naman yung 80 respondents na yan eh mga fans ni jolina!:D

[IMHOTEP]

I wonder how CHED was able to release such results by having surveyed 80 individuals....lakas ng loob nila.

[new_blood]

Not to offend anyone (especially people from AMA) but you're going to rely a survey on 80 people? Are you guys kidding?

[EcKo_01]

nyahahahahaha:rotflmao:
niloloko naman tayo nito eh... couzn ko nga dun grad la pa ring work...
Di porke you can create the deadliest computer virus o can give havoc to a website and hack it eh magaling na... sus.... UST,
DLSU, UP, Ateneo, Letran(syempre!), etc.. can the fight in creating such things like that pero syempre may ethics naman ang mga schools kahit papaano except ***** sa AMA.
Dapat mag underground na lang sila....:bash::grinroll:

[lasallite]

1. I think it is commendable that we have schools like AMA, STI, Trace. etc.

Alam nyo ba na ang ating IT industry (especially sa Call Center business) is envisioned to be a $3B-$4B industry by 2004?!!!!??? Can we all expect La Salle and UP to churn out the number of graduates to get this industry going?

Kahit na sa ngayon, pangit (ang image and standards) ang mga schools na ganyan, they are better than nothing. I also believe na ngayon bulok sila, in the future they will be the source of quality IT workers.

2. Medyo mali nga na isaksak sa mga mukha natin na number 1 sila sa ICT. I personally think that this is pure Bu!!$#!+! Atsaka, galing sa CHED??!! Sheeshh....I'm sorry but CHED seems to be a poor source of surveys....

3. Bottomline, IT seems to be one of our tickets for a brighter future...and I would rather have trainable workers rather than an IT illiterate workforce.

Atsaka.....

pano ba maglagay ng avatar??!! Turuan nyo naman ako o....plis.....

:sunnysmile:

[Pepe]

I am not familiar with UP graduates entering the Call Center business - perhaps you can send me some stats. I have a brother in law who worked for one and have met his boss, who graduated from La salle.

Anyway, don't believe too much on those local surveys -- some of them are easily tainted with money. :p

[Leo_Wyatt]

Hmm...:disgust:

AMA often advertises that they have the most competitive FACULTIES.

Eh pagbaba ko pa lang ng Gokongwei lobby ng DLSU eh may nakita na akong Jolinian na nag-te-take ng MASTER'S DEGREE. Si Dr. Dayao pa ang prof niya.

[Pepe]

And I know of UP-Diliman's Pre-Masteral Seminar Series for AMA faculty as well.

[soulthird]

well cge na nga, if that's the result. Anyway survey lang naman of 80 respondents....hello? that's not decisive.

DLSU pa din of course....e puro sa ICT lang yata good ang AMA. But everyone knows that u gotta have a good balance of ICT, business, and liberal arts courses to maximize ur students' potential, which is where DLSU excels. They teach more than just ICT. They make their students well rounded.

Well anyways I don't feel insecure abt that survey, if u ask companies between AMA and DLSU of course naman DLSU.

[gobbledygook]

Contrary to what people think, I'm not from AMA. My intention in posting the topic is to tell everyone that indeed AMA is also a good school.

[agv]

:rolleyes: So?

[angel08]

napaka jologs naman of all school AMA pa....baduyyyy...

[shi_zilin]

I'm from AMA. Geezee... I don't get it. How was the survey produced? what are the criteria?

Not that I don't have loyalty to my own Alma Matter. But based on my personal assessment, AMA falls beyond standards in teaching, facilities, and services. I used to study in UP. I can compare.

I heard that the top level of AMA group of companies is breaking apart. One resignation after another. They are having problems with their financial liquidity and contractor relations. Another rumor is that AMA was not able to immediately pay an advertising firm for a multimillion-peso TV ad last year. That is why they weren't able to put up new commercials at the start of this school year. I don't know what happened since.

http://www.amaes.edu.ph/2001/newimages/smlamaes.gif


:weep::confused3:

[soulthird]

Originally posted by shi_zilin
I'm from AMA. Geezee... I don't get it. How was the survey produced? what are the criteria?

Not that I don't have loyalty to my own Alma Matter. But based on my personal assessment, AMA falls beyond standards in teaching, facilities, and services. I used to study in UP. I can compare.

I heard that the top level of AMA group of companies is breaking apart. One resignation after another. They are having problems with their financial liquidity and contractor relations. Another rumor is that AMA was not able to immediately pay an advertising firm for a multimillion-peso TV ad last year. That is why they weren't able to put up new commercials at the start of this school year. I don't know what happened since.



:weep::confused3:


straight from the horse's mouth! thanks for being honest. Now I really doubt CHED's survey.

[lasallite]

Sana naman hindi mag-close down ang AMA due to liquidity problems etc.

Talaga naman mababa ang kalidad dito...kaya lang dapat siguro baguhin nila strategy nila kasi puro sila TV ads eh....

What they should do is put up more colleges with GOOD teachers...they should train them (makethem study in La Salle).

These schools will help our economy in the future...we need a huge number of graduates who are computer literate.

ATSAKA, AKO MAY MGA KILALA AKONG UP GRAD NA NAGTATRABAHO SA CALL CENTER.

[Pepe]

AMA is having their teachers trained by UP Diliman faculty.

BTW, sino yung UP grad na nag-wo-work sa Call Center?