Ateneo's Management Information Systems

[misscinnamon]

Any information about this course? Is it hard? Easy? What does it exactly do? Does it offer good job offers in the future?

[angst]

I'm a graduate of MIS, batch 2001. MIS teaches you to understand computer systems in a business point of view. As such, you take up subjects in both computer science and management. However, MIS is not half-baked as what other people would like to think. We have "core" MIS courses (courses that are unique to the program): SAD (systems analysis and design), PM (project management), ISA (information systems administration) and ITM (information technology management).

Most of my batchmates are currently employed or seeking employment in the field of systems development.

[B|uejay]

angst, saan ka nagwowork now? kilala mo si nino martinez? asan na daw yon?

[kaila]

m a graduate of MIS 2000. as what angst, MIS people are not taught to program only or to "fix" computers... but rather MIS people are trained to understand computer concepts and its application on the business side. if you want to have a balance between management and computers, MIS is a very good course for you.

with the fast-paced IT industry, MIS graduates are a target in multinational and consulting firms. MIS graduates can assume a lot of jobs aside from computers. they can go as a management trainee or on the marketing field with a touch of IT. but most MIS graduates, go into consulting firms like accenture, unisys (my former employer Ü), headstrong among others. dont worry, with an MIS degree form ateneo, it will definitely get you somewhere Ü

;) :) :p :cool:

[ginoledesma]

I'm a CS major in Ateneo but I have roommates who are MIS majors. :)

MIS, as I've been told so often, gets the best of both worlds from the CS track and the Management track. They also have their own core subjects as mentioned by angst.

MIS is a good course for those who are interested in CS/IT as well as management.

It promises a good future for most, especially since IT people are in demand nowadays. :)

[sisig101]

Originally posted by ginoledesma
I'm a CS major in Ateneo but I have roommates who are MIS majors. :)

MIS, as I've been told so often, gets the best of both worlds from the CS track and the Management track. They also have their own core subjects as mentioned by angst.

MIS is a good course for those who are interested in CS/IT as well as management.

It promises a good future for most, especially since IT people are in demand nowadays. :)

Gino,

Do they focus more on the management side or the CS side? After speaking with some MIS students, looks like it is soft on the technical side. Do you agree?

[blinkscreen]

Yes, compared to CS and even to CS-IT of La Salle, I think that Ateneo MIS will certainly seem to be soft on the technical side. Those who prefer hard core programming, for example, will definitely not like MIS.

At the same time, those who want in-depth management knowledge will not be satisfied with MIS. Even subjects like Marketing and Production Management that serve as foundations to Management are only offered as electives.

MIS does give a good overview of the world of management and computer science, enough to allow its graduates to communicate well to programmers, system administrators, managers and business executives. But to describe MIS as the course for those who want a little bit of Management (or ME) and a little bit of CS is misleading.

For me, MIS produces graduates that are "experts" in understanding the applicability of current and even anticipated technology solutions to particular organizations and business environments. Moreover, MIS graduates know how to properly lead, plan, control and evaluate the implementation of these technologies. And this form of knowledge comes from the core MIS subjects, like Systems Analysis and Design, Project Management and Information Systems Administration.

These days, with the proliferation of all sorts of complex technology solutions promising to support and enhance business processes (and organizations not knowing which of them to implement as well as how to manage their various technology solutions), MIS professionals who are able to look at IT with a business perspective are certainly in demand. That's why many people say that MIS graduates have a good future.

Hope this helps. By the way, like Angst, I am a graduate of MIS 2001.

[kaila]

Originally posted by blinkscreen


At the same time, those who want in-depth management knowledge will not be satisfied with MIS. Even subjects like Marketing and Production Management that serve as foundations to Management are only offered as electives.



have they changed the curriculum? elective na lang ba ang marketing and prod man? hmmm...kasi nung time namin, which is just a batch older sa yo Ü, core subject yong marketing and prod management... Ü

;) :) :p :cool:

[coolbutsure]

I'm also a graduate of MIS 2001. It's a very versatile course, with the technical and managerial training you'll get, it will surely take you places as mentioned by other MIS grads in this thread. It's a very in-demand course, with MIS people representing the biggest contigent on all batches. So it really gets competitive. Also, be picky with your electives.

[angst]

Originally posted by B|uejay
angst, saan ka nagwowork now? kilala mo si nino martinez? asan na daw yon?

I am not yet working now but I will be working a few weeks from now in one of the consulting firms here in Manila.

[nina malagu]

MIS , asan na daw si nino martinez? MIS 2001.

[eagle_the_king]

I'm getting the impression that it's a mix of CS and management. What's the difference between MIS and Comtech?

[kaila]

Originally posted by eagle_the_king
I'm getting the impression that it's a mix of CS and management. What's the difference between MIS and Comtech?

from what i know, comtech is a combination of a little mgt, communication, and computer courses. but the computer courses offered in comtech are jst the basic applications such as multimedia or electronic publishing. computer courses offered to comtech people are those that can be applied to the comm area of the course... malabo ba??? hehehe Ü

;) :) :p :cool: :heartgrl:

[Oscar01]

Originally posted by eagle_the_king
I'm getting the impression that it's a mix of CS and management. What's the difference between MIS and Comtech?

The difference between the department that handles Computer Science and the one that handles Communication

[nina malagu]

Originally posted by coolbutsure
I'm also a graduate of MIS 2001. It's a very versatile course, with the technical and managerial training you'll get, it will surely take you places as mentioned by other MIS grads in this thread. It's a very in-demand course, with MIS people representing the biggest contigent on all batches. So it really gets competitive. Also, be picky with your electives.

Asan na daw si Nino Martinez? I think you know him. :) Hmmm...

[ginoledesma]

Originally posted by sisig101
Gino,

Do they focus more on the management side or the CS side? After speaking with some MIS students, looks like it is soft on the technical side. Do you agree?

Yes, I think that the MIS program is a bit soft on the technical side.

One thing I've learned during my stay in Ateneo, if you want to learn more, you'll have to do that outside the classroom. You can learn only so much inside. Moreover, I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but classroom stuff is just classroom stuff. I've learned more through my experiences with taking on projects outside the classroom. I've learned a lot by reading stuff in the library and asking my teachers about it. I'm thankful for the patience of my teachers, too. :)

Also, I've talked to some Ateneo CS graduates and they told me that if I want to learn the stuff I want to learn, I shouldn't expect it at all from my classes. Which is why I, and some of my friends, have already gone project-hunting. :D

[shad_ma]

*** u get in d classrooms are the mere theoretical side even if u hve labs to have hands-on it would still be different when u'll olredy working with semi-conductors that should not break unlike in skul u get to destroy a lot of stuff and still be wori free

[ginoledesma]

I think that only the CE courses of Ateneo have hands-on with hardware programming/design. The CS course goes only so far as Intro to Electronics.

[nina malagu]

Where are you guys working now? Angst , Kaila, coolbutsure, blinkscreen.

[kaila]

Originally posted by nina malagu
Where are you guys working now? Angst , Kaila, coolbutsure, blinkscreen.

after grad, i worked for unisys philippines in makati as a technical associate/consultant. i worked there for 8 months. just resigned 2 months ago...i now work for our family business. i can say that i learned a lot from my experience at unisys. at the same time, i really miss the IT world... Ü

;) :) :p :cool: :flower: :flwrface: :heartgrl:

[shad_ma]

wen i grad i'll leave dis forsaken country :lol:

[Limerick]

:rolleyes:

[ginoledesma]

Clarification on my last post:
the farthest hardware we get to is PS141: Intro to Electronics. We proceed afterwards to CS152: Computer Organization which deals with simulation and systems design. :)

[thethinker]

i'm taking computer information systems here in the states and i was wondering if there are any similarity in the courses na kinukuha nyo dyan sa ateneo? attend sana ako ng ateneo non before i left kaso no money kaya UP na lang ako hehehe

ngayon concentrated kami sa systems analysis and design saka database stuff.

[ginoledesma]

I wouldn't know how CIS/MIS in the US is, but what they teach in Ateneo (at least MIS101) is basically the foundations and fundamentals of MIS of most corporate businesses. What students do in the class are case studies, the usual approaches like SWOT, and the like.

For the course content, you might want to visit: Ateneo de Manila University's MIS 101 website (http://discs.ateneo.net/mis101/).

[coolbutsure]

Originally posted by nina malagu
Where are you guys working now? Angst , Kaila, coolbutsure, blinkscreen.

i started work when i was still in college with a dotcom. it's been a great experience for me. i'm still looking forward to more opportunities in the future though. ;)