View Full Version : Do you think UST should replace Pido?
cbie
Aug 21, 2009, 01:25 PM
After yesterday's results, it clearly shows that UST indeed has a strong team and may be a contender. However, with the kind of coaching that they have, they may actually not be in the final four if the Tigers play like how they played yesterday and the game vs DLSU and vs AdU.
Any of you think that UST should replace Pido?
If so, who do you think should replace him?
For me, Pido should have been replaced last year. I would want his replacement to be either:
1. Binky Favis
2. Alfrancis Chua
Your thoughts?
ringcentral
Aug 21, 2009, 02:05 PM
Pido is a good friend of mine & I hope WE give him few more games to redeem himself. If nothing happen still, then I guess it's time. I think Beaujing Acot is a very good candidate. But I guess he's currently committed to be part of the coaching staff of a team in the PRO league.
person
Aug 21, 2009, 02:12 PM
medyo heated ata itong topic mo friend knowing that a lot of posters sa mga forums na to and others are close to Coach Pido..
who knows? i really think that humina ang coaching ni Pido when Beaujing left.. Coach Acot i believe was the defensive coach of UST.. but if you ask me if UST wants a new coach, maybe they should consider those who are not former UST players..
look at San Sebastian, Ato Agustin and Turo did great for them .. Ariel Vanguardia of JRU, Louie Alas of Letran, i think Adamson player siya dati.. si Binky at si Al Francis kasi had sub par seasons sa PBA kaya im not comfortable with them at the helm..
si Koy Banal pwede kasi he does handle the UST Magnolia team sa PBL
clawed_out
Aug 21, 2009, 02:12 PM
:rolleyes:
Yes. It's been years of no good outcome except for season 69.
enteng.00
Aug 21, 2009, 02:27 PM
no.
its the tigers (not all but some) that should replace their bad habits that hamper their quest for the elusive title -
they're the ones who are playing, not coach pido.
they're the ones who can't give full sacrifice of just 3 months to coach pido.
they're the ones who can be seen playing internet/online games up to wee hours of friday or wednesday nights - then playing for a uaap game the following day...
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no.
it's never coach pido's fault...
Altwegg
Aug 21, 2009, 02:30 PM
No. Hindi naman sa lahat ng pagkakataon eh things will go our way.
stonecold316
Aug 21, 2009, 02:37 PM
@ Enteng. hahahah.
PIDO pa rin as coach!
Give him time. 2011 champs yan!
taboo101
Aug 21, 2009, 02:39 PM
^Hawig pa man din ni Kuya Stone si Coach Pido. Hehe *okay*
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Basta ako, Pido should stay. It's not his lone fault.
enteng.00
Aug 21, 2009, 02:43 PM
@ Taboo, oo nga no! i just realized na magkahawig si stone at si coach!
@ Stone, ahihihi! hindi na mapigilan ang pusok ng damdamin...kailangan na ilabas eh..hehehe
stonecold316
Aug 21, 2009, 02:44 PM
^Hawig pa man din ni Kuya Stone si Coach Pido. Hehe *okay*
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Basta ako, Pido should stay. It's not his lone fault.
Hindi lang ninyo alam on how hard Pido is working just to make the Tigers contenders not only this year but in the year's to come. Champion teams are not built in one year. So dapat kaunting pasensiya lang kay Pido.
Di kami magkamukha Taboo!
*okay**okay**okay*
May buhok kasi ako eh si Coach Skin Head. LOL!
stonecold316
Aug 21, 2009, 02:46 PM
@ Enteng. Huwag ka mag-alala. Nagagawan ng paraan ang mga ganyang bagay. hahahaha!
COACH PIDO pa rin!
stonecold316
Aug 21, 2009, 02:48 PM
@ Enteng. Bili ka ng shirt ng LIGA TOMASINO ha.
Magpapagawa na ako later.
See you Sunday!
enteng.00
Aug 21, 2009, 02:50 PM
@ stone, no prob! bibili ako susuutin ko sa CDC yan! hahahaha! see you sa sunday manalo matalo!
Coach Pido forever!
taboo101
Aug 21, 2009, 02:52 PM
@Stone - hindi ba? Hawig lang naman eh. Haha *okay*
Sisingit lang... Yun ba yung may main building shirt, Kuya Stone?
stonecold316
Aug 21, 2009, 02:54 PM
Yung may Arch of the Centuries sa gitna. Yup. P175 lang yun, napakamura. Medium pwede na sa iyo. Para pag nanood tayo lahat naka LIGA TOMASINO shirts. STEEG!
stonecold316
Aug 21, 2009, 02:56 PM
OT taas: Basta, ONE FOR PIDO JARENCIO!
ustfyt!
Aug 21, 2009, 03:04 PM
naku! bakit nanaman papalitan si coach..
INCONSISTENCY at ng mga players ang dapat linangin sa atin..
teng?
most especially si mirza..
ewan ko.. parang grade school humawak ng bola at laging nahahablutan..
and
look what we did during the FEU game..
good defense ginawa natin dun tapos pagdating sa UP puro turnovers at walang kadepedepensa..
tawkytawny
Aug 21, 2009, 03:50 PM
As for me, if Coach Pido fails to steer the team to a respectable finish after this season, UST should strongly consider of replacing him with a better tactician who is not necessarily a Thomasian alumnus.
shamhoy
Aug 21, 2009, 04:07 PM
Pido is ok. He has done wonders for recruitment but I just dont see him as having an edge over the coaches of the better UAAP teams. His team plays no defense and is used to the bara-bara type of plays. Lets just have him finish his contract with UST.
As to the gaming habits of some players, I dont think that this is relevant to the standings of UST. Theyre kids - they have far more energy than the average adult. :D
Aleancelo
Aug 21, 2009, 05:46 PM
No. There's no need to replace him. But I think he needs an assistant who could teach proper team defense to the Tigers.
pepman
Aug 21, 2009, 06:56 PM
Pido pa rin, but if ever, kay Binky Favis or Coach Aric ako.
gabert
Aug 21, 2009, 08:10 PM
dapat si rajko toroman!
Derrick_Rose#1
Aug 21, 2009, 08:30 PM
Coach: Eric Altamirano
Assistant Coaches: Rey Evangelista, Bal David, and Patrick Fran.
Altwegg
Aug 21, 2009, 08:38 PM
Speaking of Bal David, asan na siya?
Derrick_Rose#1
Aug 21, 2009, 09:09 PM
Sabi ni Eng Chris (PEX Poster sa NBA/PBA Forum) eh meron daw siya na computer shop sa Bacoor, Cavite.
azgauth
Aug 21, 2009, 10:19 PM
there is nothing wrong w/ Pido, as we can see, he is a offensive and motivational coach. Its just that they're coaching staff is lacking a defensive coach w/ the departure of coach beujing.
epalog
Aug 21, 2009, 10:21 PM
last year was more heartbreaking than this year so far.
there are a lot of better coaches out there.
where's coach beaujing anyway? may rift ba sila ni pido?
danella
Aug 21, 2009, 10:29 PM
^Nabasa ko sa isa sa mga posts dito sa pex, nasa pro na ata si coach acot.
And for the thread question: No. This is not a one-man team. The players and assistant coaches are important in the process of getting that championship crown.
cbie
Aug 21, 2009, 10:35 PM
If I am not mistaken, it is also a coaches' job to oversee his players before, during and after practice. It is also a coaches' duty to instill discipline and heighten morale with the help of the assistants and the team captain. The Tigers are indeed still kids and have needs to play and socialize like regular college students. But as student-athletes, getting little or lack of sleep before a game is totally unacceptable behavior. The coach is partly responsible for such.
FYI, I love Pido too and at least a couple of his staff are friends of mine as well. But this is all about business and for our beloved USTe!
@ Enteng - Pare good to see you last Friday in McDo Timog! You and your team's dedication and effort for the 2011 celebration is super! Let me know how I can help pare!
azgauth
Aug 21, 2009, 11:11 PM
there is nothing wrong w/ Pido, as we can see, he is an offensive and motivational coach. Its just that they're coaching staff is lacking a defensive coach w/ the departure of coach beujing.
clawed_out
Aug 22, 2009, 12:58 AM
That's why I voted yes cbie.
Coaching does not start and end in the court.
I will leave the others with that.
It's just business, nothing dramatic and personal.
nash_bedista
Aug 22, 2009, 01:26 AM
nahabol lang bigla ng UP, gumawa naman agad ng ganitong thread..
PIDO parin
clawed_out
Aug 22, 2009, 01:34 AM
wow. may assumptionista! :glee:
Cr0w
Aug 22, 2009, 06:03 PM
Nasaan kaya sa Jeric Teng kung wala si Pido sa UST?
Nasaan kaya si Allen Maliksi kung wala si Pido sa UST?
Nasaan kaya si Jeric Fortuna kung wala sa Pido sa UST?
You want to chang the coach? May pangbayad ka ba ng malaki? Alam mo ba kung magkano asking price ng mga coaches?
-alucard-
Aug 22, 2009, 06:29 PM
You want to chang the coach? May pangbayad ka ba ng malaki? Alam mo ba kung magkano asking price ng mga coaches?
mas malaki sa asking price ni buenafe at bringas?
AH! AH! AH! AH! AH!
:bat:
Cr0w
Aug 22, 2009, 06:34 PM
^Nope...Masmura namana... but a price UST cannt give the coaches. Kita mo si bringas, nasa UST na nawala pa.
-alucard-
Aug 22, 2009, 06:40 PM
sabagay.
ika nga ni noodles oblique, condo at kotse daw. san ka pa?:lol:
pero kung mala-norman black. paniguradong mas mahal.
mahal pa kay rajko toroman.
AH! AH! AH! AH! AH!
:bat:
Cr0w
Aug 22, 2009, 06:50 PM
^And why change now? I mean, di ba prediction is 5th or 6th place lang ang UST this season? Look where UST is now? 4th place. Tapos gusto coach change? Pangit pa ba ginagawa ni Pido?
sher_amf
Aug 22, 2009, 06:50 PM
bakit replace si pido? if i remember siya nagpachampion ng UST against ADMU...and first year niya ata yun e..anyway he is good look at where UST is now
-alucard-
Aug 22, 2009, 06:57 PM
^And why change now? I mean, di ba prediction is 5th or 6th place lang ang UST this season? Look where UST now? 4th place. Tapos gusto coach change? Pangit pa ba ginagawa ni Pido?
mas magaling daw kasi sila kaysa kay pido.
kung sila daw kasi ang coach ng tigers, ang pre-season prediction daw ay no less than a finals stint. ika nga pinakamababang sentensiya ay 1st runner up.
AH! AH! AH! AH! AH!
:bat:
growling_maroon
Aug 22, 2009, 07:03 PM
No need to kick Coach Pido out, not yet. Let him finish first his three-year plan until 2011. We are currently in a rebuilding stage and no one is really expecting us to go all the way this year or even the Final Four and yet, we are already overachieving at this stage. Too early to boot him out, wag natin gayahin yung ginawa ng UP kay Joe Lipa, he picked those La Salle standouts from HS to build a long term program around them tapos nagkaron lang ng 0-14 season, sinibak agad. Let Jarencio finish his program up to 2011 and if we don't reach the finals, at the least, then we could start talking about replacing him na. The future still looks bright for UST. :)
P.S. I agree that we need to hire a defensive asst coach if Acot doesn't return.
azgauth
Aug 22, 2009, 07:04 PM
no problem w/ pido
its just that w/ the departure of coach acot (their defensive coach)
their defense went down...
Cr0w
Aug 22, 2009, 07:05 PM
mas magaling daw kasi sila kaysa kay pido.
kung sila daw kasi ang coach ng tigers, ang pre-season prediction daw ay no less than a finals stint. ika nga pinakamababang sentensiya ay 1st runner up.
AH! AH! AH! AH! AH!
:bat:
Yan ang problem with most of the Thomasian here... Madami sila gusto pero tanungin mo sila, "nasaan ka nung kailangan ka ng team?"... Ano sasagot sa yo? "nasa forum", "nag cheer ako ako sa inyo... sa forum". Tapos meron pang "I want change... Ill post it sa forum". DAYMN!!! Puro kayo forum!!! Pwede ba paramdam naman kayo dun sa mga players, sa mga coaches at sa mga teams.. wag puro forums!
-alucard-
Aug 22, 2009, 07:23 PM
masarap daw kasi sa forum. masasabi mo lahat.
pag nanood ng live, hindi kayang sabihin sa harap ni pido ang mga pinagsasabi sa forum.
sige nga dare sa mga magagaling, upo kayo sa likod ng ust bench tapos sigaw ninyo yung pinagsasabi ninyo dito about pido. partida yan nakatalikod pa siya niyan. hindi pa talaga harapan.
o-ha! o-ha! o-ha!
AH! AH! AH! AH! AH!
:bat:
confusedguy
Aug 22, 2009, 07:53 PM
Coach Pido is doing a good job. Let's be confident with his coaching skills, I know he can deliver.
The team needs our support. :)
mao_puks
Aug 22, 2009, 09:26 PM
Pag nasa ust na si MBE at SOC RIVERA tapos olats pa din mga nangyayari baka dun ko na iconsider na palitan si coach P.
RuckuS
Aug 22, 2009, 09:29 PM
ok naman si Pido ah, unlike other coaches who start from the bottom of the standings and improve year after year, until eventually winning a championship, sya iba. Champion kaagad during his first year, final4 na lang during his second year, and tanggal na sa final4 during his third year.. hehe. well AT LEAST nakatikim na sya ng isang UAAP Championship during his coaching career which is the dream of other coaches out there.
-alucard-
Aug 22, 2009, 09:43 PM
Pag nasa ust na si MBE at SOC RIVERA tapos olats pa din mga nangyayari baka dun ko na iconsider na palitan si coach P.
mauubos ang eligibility ni mbe kakalipat ng kakalipat ng paaralan.:lol:
ayon sa sabi-sabi, si soc rivera at yung 6'9" daw nila lalaro na next year.
AH! AH! AH! AH! AH!
:bat:
animo24
Aug 22, 2009, 09:48 PM
keep pido. He is doing a good job with UST.
And iba pa rin, pag alum ng school ang head coach. ;)
danella
Aug 22, 2009, 09:51 PM
No need to kick Coach Pido out, not yet. Let him finish first his three-year plan until 2011. We are currently in a rebuilding stage and no one is really expecting us to go all the way this year or even the Final Four and yet, we are already overachieving at this stage. Too early to boot him out, wag natin gayahin yung ginawa ng UP kay Joe Lipa, he picked those La Salle standouts from HS to build a long term program around them tapos nagkaron lang ng 0-14 season, sinibak agad. Let Jarencio finish his program up to 2011 and if we don't reach the finals, at the least, then we could start talking about replacing him na. The future still looks bright for UST. :)
P.S. I agree that we need to hire a defensive asst coach if Acot doesn't return.
Agree. Even cooach pido mentioned in Varsitarian that he's not expecting a championship crown this year. We're currently tie with UE at the 3rd spot. That's far better than what most people predicted at the start of the season.
hacksaw
Aug 22, 2009, 09:53 PM
Pido should try his luck as a coach in the UFC. ;)
-alucard-
Aug 22, 2009, 09:56 PM
Agree. Even cooach pido mentioned in Varsitarian that he's not expecting a championship crown this year. We're currently tie with UE at the 3rd spot. That's far better than what most people predicted at the start of the season.
danella, totoo ba na paparating na yung mga sentro ninyo next year? isang 6'9" (ab ang initial as in atenean_blooded) at isang galing feu team b?
kung totoo yan, aba! matindi ang tigers ni pido next year tapos me teng, bautista, camus at fortuna pa.
tapos gusto pa nila paalisin si pido.:lol:
AH! AH! AH! AH! AH!
:bat:
azgauth
Aug 22, 2009, 09:58 PM
who is MBE btw?
-alucard-
Aug 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
Pido should try his luck as a coach in the UFC. ;)
bully woody co can also try his luck there. he's very much qualified.
ooopss...off topic na pala ako.
AH! AH! AH! AH! AH!
:bat:
Altwegg
Aug 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
Did I read it right? Soc Rivera, a Tiger? Eto ba yung taga-FEU na napunta ng UP?
-alucard-
Aug 22, 2009, 10:06 PM
Did I read it right? Soc Rivera, a Tiger? Eto ba yung taga-FEU na napunta ng UP?
na nagtungo muna sa san sebastian college bago napunta sa inyo.
yes, you read it right. 2 sems na yata nagreresidency sa inyo.
AH! AH! AH! AH! AH!
:bat:
show_pao
Aug 22, 2009, 10:06 PM
naku! bakit nanaman papalitan si coach..
INCONSISTENCY at ng mga players ang dapat linangin sa atin..
teng?
most especially si mirza..
ewan ko.. parang grade school humawak ng bola at laging nahahablutan..
I agree! Akala ko ako lang ang nakakapansin sa dribbling ni Teng. Yes, no doubt na scoring machine siya at malaki ang contribution niya para sa team but there's really something wrong (or funny, I guess?) with his dribbling. Parang beginner mag basketball. Ang gusto ko na dribbling ay 'yung kay Mikee Reyes of UP. Galing.
On Topic: No, Pido must STAY! As I watch UST games, even they are on a comfortable lead, Pido still guides them completely play after play. Inconsistency should be blamed on the players, specially Mirza. I usually only see his greatness in the 1st-2nd quarter and then the rest of the boys would get cold as well. Thus, resulting to the opposing to take advantage and cut down a BIG lead. Whew.
markfroilan
Aug 22, 2009, 10:11 PM
so ust beats up, up beats dlsu, shouldnt the so called growling tigers muscle out dlsu easily then, that should be the logic here, but that doesnt seem to happen with the sleezy sloppy negligent tigers. wake up you flea bitten varmant!!!!
azgauth
Aug 22, 2009, 10:13 PM
Ang gusto ko na dribbling ay 'yung kay Mikee Reyes of UP. Galing.
off-topic:
His dribbling gave bader his 5th foul. :bop:
Altwegg
Aug 22, 2009, 10:17 PM
na nagtungo muna sa san sebastian college bago napunta sa inyo.
yes, you read it right. 2 sems na yata nagreresidency sa inyo.
AH! AH! AH! AH! AH!
:bat:
Anong nangyari?
:lol:
-alucard-
Aug 22, 2009, 10:23 PM
Anong nangyari?
:lol:
nawalan yata ng gana ng alisin si da nose sa up.
ayos nga ginawa, dumaan muna sa san sebastian college para 1 year residency lang. kasi kung directly galing up 2 years residency gagawin niya.
reason daw kaya nagpunta sa inyo ay gusto ng bata maglaro under pido.
tapos gustong paalisin ng mga magagaling si pido. baka umalis yan pag nangyari yung tulad kay da nose.
pero mas exciting yung 6'9" at yung galing feu team b na abangan.
AH! AH! AH! AH! AH!
:bat:
Altwegg
Aug 22, 2009, 10:28 PM
Magaling ba 'to?
:lol:
-alucard-
Aug 22, 2009, 10:33 PM
highly touted nung juniors. not sure if a former juniors mvp.
kung walang laro ito, hindi ilalaban ng pitpitan ng itlog ni montinola ito nung lumipat bigla sa up.
standing 6'4", hindi man talagang magaling na magaling basta may laro ay malaking asset na para sa inyo lalo pa at kulang na kulang kayo sa height.
tapos aalis pa yung mga 6'4" at 6'3" ninyo next year na sina dylan at khasim.
kakailanganin ninyo talaga ang batang ito.
AH! AH! AH! AH! AH!
:bat:
nash_bedista
Aug 22, 2009, 11:05 PM
^^.. hindi ganun maganda ang footwork ni Soc,
hindi rin ganun kalaki ang katawan, payat sya at parang tamad
maglaro, sana mag iba na laro nito next year, si coach pido magaling
mag motivate*okay*
offtopic: one reason kung bakit umalis si Soc sa UP, academics deficiency
otep15
Aug 22, 2009, 11:08 PM
mauubos ang eligibility ni mbe kakalipat ng kakalipat ng paaralan.:lol:
ayon sa sabi-sabi, si soc rivera at yung 6'9" daw nila lalaro na next year.
AH! AH! AH! AH! AH!
:bat:
ey.. alucard dati aculard ka ah.. hehe enweyz..
lagi ko naririnig yang soc rivera na yan.. sino po ba siya??
kimho
Aug 23, 2009, 02:34 AM
Pag dpa naka pasok final 4 malamang dapat palit na.
kung makapasok pa dlsu instead syado na nakakahiya. ;)
Derrick_Rose#1
Aug 23, 2009, 08:24 PM
ey.. alucard dati aculard ka ah.. hehe enweyz..
lagi ko naririnig yang soc rivera na yan.. sino po ba siya??
Si Socrates Rivera yung magaling na player sa FEU Fern. Naglaro siya sa UP nung 2007 pero hinde naging maganda yung performance niya.
Mga 6'4 or 6'5" siya na PF/Center.
epalog
Aug 23, 2009, 08:49 PM
so ust beats up, up beats dlsu, shouldnt the so called growling tigers muscle out dlsu easily then, that should be the logic here, but that doesnt seem to happen with the sleezy sloppy negligent tigers. wake up you flea bitten varmant!!!!
uyyyy nagmamagaling. if you knew better, you would know na hindi ganyan ang case lagi.
one thing i do not like about pido is his shuffling of players lalo na kung mainit pa naman ito. i would understand kung pagod na 'yung player, pero kung hindi pa naman, 'wag muna sanang palitan. baka kasi manlamig na. katulad ni maliksi kanina. miski 'yung commentators nagtataka because he was pulled out of the game eh maganda naman 'yung pinakita niya nu'ng early part ng third quarter.
mas disappointed ako kay pido last year. 'cause we had the material to make it to the final 4. jervy, japs, talented wingmen in allera and canlas, tapos bruisers in taylor and gile. pero 'yun nga, we were only good for fifth place.
now, ust has the shortest and youngest lineup in the league. it also does not have a deep bench. but the tigers are currently performing better than what pundits and critics predicted them to do.
so, kung magfofocus lang 'yung players sa pag-aaral at paglalaro, and with the right guidance of coach pido and his staff, kakayanin ng tigers bumalik sa final 4.
otep15
Aug 23, 2009, 08:56 PM
Si Socrates Rivera yung magaling na player sa FEU Fern. Naglaro siya sa UP nung 2007 pero hinde naging maganda yung performance niya.
Mga 6'4 or 6'5" siya na PF/Center.
thank you info.. idol.. haha..
naglaro na pala siya sa up..
bat kaya hindi ko siya napansin... :confused:
Derrick_Rose#1
Aug 23, 2009, 09:04 PM
thank you info.. idol.. haha..
naglaro na pala siya sa up..
bat kaya hindi ko siya napansin... :confused:
Cause he only averaged 5.1 points and 4.4 rebounds kaya akala nila eh UAAP Draft Bust siya.
Kasi maganda ang naging career niya sa Juniors, and akala nila eh susunod siya sa yapak ni Arwind Santos.
Baka mag improve naman yung laro niya sa UST kasi dadami yung playing time niya, and pwede ng maglaro ng PF position si Chris Camus.
otep15
Aug 23, 2009, 09:08 PM
kaya naman pala..
eh kilala mu naman *** 6.9 na player na sinasbe nila??
Derrick_Rose#1
Aug 23, 2009, 09:11 PM
Hinde eh
Sana totoo na meron sila na 6'9" na player kasi ang pinakamatangkad na nakita ko sa UST eh si Mark Nanninga dati na varsity player sa UAAP.
otep15
Aug 23, 2009, 09:15 PM
ah ok ok..
anu school mu kuya idol??
pablohoney36
Aug 23, 2009, 09:18 PM
Why should he step down?
Because the team is losing? Well, the Tigers were ranked 6th to 8th at the start of the season, after losing the core of the 2006 championship squad -- Jervy, Japs, Badong, Francis, Mel and Chester.
The Tiger faithfuls know that the team is on a rebuilding mode -- Before the season started, a Final Four slot was a lofty goal already. And though reaching the Finals this season seems far-fetched, a Final Four slot is within its grasp.
Hindi pa tapos ang season and yet you guys are already giving up on the person tasked to bring us back to the top. The IPEA trusts Pido. Mga kaparian trusts Pido. We should trust Pido, too.
Mga miron lang tayo dito, there's a reason why Pido is the coach.
Suportahan na lang natin siya instead of calling for his head. If you want to know how you can give tangible support to the team, shoot me a PM. The team actually needs all the support it can get from the Thomasian community.
ONE FOR UST!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS @ 400!
Katchatore
Aug 23, 2009, 09:24 PM
No. He actually is doing fine.
But he could tell Mirza to stop jacking up 50 shots per game.
Derrick_Rose#1
Aug 23, 2009, 09:26 PM
ah ok ok..
anu school mu kuya idol??
Graduate ako sa UST nung 2007.
Derrick_Rose#1
Aug 23, 2009, 09:29 PM
Wrong Thread.
legman11
Aug 23, 2009, 09:59 PM
sino si mbe?
Tomas
Aug 23, 2009, 10:19 PM
hanggang ngayon kasi parang di parin nakaka-adjust ang depensa ng UST. Si Clark Bautista, alam naten na isa yang shooter compared to Mirza, pero ngayon parang walang kumpiyansa ang bata sa mga tira nya. Ang role ni coach di lang natatapos para gumawa ng magagandang plays sa mga bawat laro ng Tigers, pero dapat nya rin ilabas at i-enhance ang talent at skills na given sa mga players nya.
ang hirap pag puro offense lang pambato naten, kasi paano pag magaling din ang kalaban sa opensa, edi patay na tayo.
di lang pupwede na puso, pride at palaban ang dapat pairalin. kailangan naten ng isang konkretong pundasyon na dadalhin ng mga Tigers sa bawat laro nila.
dapat lang siguro pag-ibayuhin pa ni coach ang pagtutok sa kalidad ng mga players niya at i-address ang kahinaan ng team. di puros "pag gutom ang tigre mabangis.. etc. etc..."
malabo man ang finals appearance para sa team, pero ayos lang basta nakikita mong lumalaban ang team ng patas at may magandang bukas na naghihintay sa bawat talong laban.
Ano pa man mangyari, isa akong Tomasino na susuporta at magdarasal para sa ikakabuti ng ating koponan.
VIVA SANTO TOMAS !!!
Derrick_Rose#1
Aug 23, 2009, 10:23 PM
Why should he step down?
Because the team is losing? Well, the Tigers were ranked 6th to 8th at the start of the season, after losing the core of the 2006 championship squad -- Jervy, Japs, Badong, Francis, Mel and Chester.
The Tiger faithfuls know that the team is on a rebuilding mode -- Before the season started, a Final Four slot was a lofty goal already. And though reaching the Finals this season seems far-fetched, a Final Four slot is within its grasp.
Hindi pa tapos ang season and yet you guys are already giving up on the person tasked to bring us back to the top. The IPEA trusts Pido. Mga kaparian trusts Pido. We should trust Pido, too.
Mga miron lang tayo dito, there's a reason why Pido is the coach.
Suportahan na lang natin siya instead of calling for his head. If you want to know how you can give tangible support to the team, shoot me a PM. The team actually needs all the support it can get from the Thomasian community.
ONE FOR UST!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS @ 400!
Sana kumuha siya ng magaling na defensive assistant coach.
Naabutan ko pa na coach ng UST si Nel Parado at nung time na yun eh hirap makapasok ang Tigers sa Final 4 lalo na nung nawala si Baguio, at nag resigned si Coach Aric Del Rosario.
Saka ang naging franchise players natin eh sina Christian Luanzon at Jemal Vizcarra.
Masaya nga ako nung si Coach Jarencio ang napili na bago na coach ng UST kasi bukod sa isa siya sa pinakafavorite na player ko sa Ginebra eh talaga malaki din ang puso nito nung naglaro siya sa BGK and Tanduay.
Marami naman na rumerespeto kay Coach Pido dahil bukod sa magaling siya na player nung 1980's sa UAAP, at naging maganda ang career niya sa PBA eh napagchampion niya ang UST nung 2006 nung tinalo nila ang powerhouse teams ng Ateneo at UE.
Basta kailangan talaga eh magkaroon sila ng adjustments kapag ang kalaban nila eh yung mga teams na meron matatangkad na frontcourt players.
Maganda nga yun Run and Gun Offense pero pagdating sa 4th quarter eh pagod na sina Teng, Mirza and Ababou.
Tomas
Aug 23, 2009, 10:28 PM
Sana kumuha siya ng magaling na defensive assistant coach.
Naabutan ko pa na coach ng UST si Nel Parado at nung time na yun eh hirap makapasok ang Tigers sa Final 4 lalo na nung nawala si Baguio, at nag resigned si Coach Aric Del Rosario.
Saka ang naging franchise players natin eh sina Christian Luanzon at Jemal Vizcarra.
Marami naman na rumerespeto kay Coach Pido dahil bukod sa magaling siya na player nung 1980's sa UAAP, at naging maganda ang career niya sa PBA eh napagchampion niya ang UST nung 2006.
Basta kailangan talaga eh magkaroon sila ng adjustments kapag ang kalaban nila eh yung mga teams na meron matatangkad na frontcourt players.
Maganda nga yun Run and Gun Offense pero pagdating sa 4th quarter eh pagod na sina Teng, Mirza and Ababou.
I agree na maganda ang run and gun offense. pero kelangan parin ng solid na depensa para di mahabol ang lead naten plus yun nga pagdating ng 4th quarter pagod na mga players...
otep15
Aug 23, 2009, 10:38 PM
Rivera confirmed that he isn’t currently with nor practicing with the Maroons. “Pagkatapos nung Season 70, sinabihan ako nung nag-aalaga sa akin mula bata pa ako na lumipat sa Adamson. Second sem yun. Sinunod ko siya, may utang na loob ako sa kanya dahil tinulungan niya ako [sa buhay]� (After Season 70, the person who took care of me since childhood asked me to transfer to Adamson. That was during the second semester. I followed her cause I owe her so much for helping me in life).
This potential move to San Marcelino triggered the current problem. “Hindi ako natuloy sa paglipat, nagkaroon ng problema. Naka-enrol ako sa UP noon, pero dahil sa [tangkang] paglipat, hindi na ako nakapasok sa [lahat ng] klase ko. Aasikasuhin ko grades ko sa UP. Kung maayos, gusto ko pa rin maglaro sa UP. UP is UP. Kahit umupo ako ng one year ok lang dahil hindi ako nakaka-practice at may maaagawan ako ng puwesto. Kung hindi maayos, honorable dismissal na langâ€? (I wasn’t able to transfer, a problem came up. I was enrolled in UP that time, but cause of my attempted transfer, I failed to attend all my classes. I’ll try to fix my problem in UP. If fixed, I’d still like to play for UP. UP is UP. It’s ok with me to sit out one year because I haven’t been practicing with the team, and someone will lose his slot as a result. If not, I’ll just seek an honorable dismissal).
The Lubao, Pampanga native also said he’s being recruited by the University of Santo Tomas. He said one of his teammates in UP (as well as in FEU-FERN) last year, point guard Dexter Rosales, is already with the Tigers. “Gusto ng UST package deal kami ni Dexter pero ayaw ko maglaro doon� (UST wants me and Dexter like some kind of a package deal. But I don’t want to play there).
Rivera, who averaged 5.1 points and 4.4 rebounds in 15 minutes per game last year for State U, also said he initially lost his desire to play after ex-head coach Joe Lipa’s dismissal. However, he has nothing against Castro, Lipa’s successor. “Magkasama kami ni coach Aboy sa FEU, nasa college [coaching staff] siya nung high school ako. Nag-uusap din kami [tungkol sa sitwasyon ngayon]� (Coach Aboy and I were together when I was in high school at FEU since he was part of the senior team’s coaching staff. We also talk about the situation right now).
inboundpass dati pa yan ata...
Derrick_Rose#1
Aug 23, 2009, 10:43 PM
^^ Dapat i pattern nila yung laro nila sa Ginebra kasi ang BGK eh magaling din na Run and Gun Team pero ang tindi ng depensa nila sa 4th quarter.
Depensa pa din ang magpapanalo sa kanila. Saka dapat less turnovers sa 2nd Half.
Medyo consistent and strict yung mga referees sa pagtawag ng traveling violations.
stonecold316
Aug 24, 2009, 03:25 AM
Go Pido pa rin. Just have patience with him and the team.
Instead na magalit tayo sa kanya, ituloy lang natin ang support sa team at sa UST.
VIVA LA LIGA EL TOMASINO
BTW, you can do this by visiting this site.
http://www.ligatomasino.org
Malapit na rin ang 2011 so sumama na kayo samin sa preparations.
EcKo_01
Aug 24, 2009, 05:33 AM
get rey evangelista! you can't just play offense all game long...
rudboy
Aug 25, 2009, 03:59 PM
Is'nt coach beujing acot a good defensive coach?
Mukhang kulang lang sa materyales this year since walang naiwan na malaki.
Imagine if they could have used ababou and mirza in their natural positions instead of being undersized frontliners...
fernando_hierro
Aug 25, 2009, 04:18 PM
Pido coaches like Jawo
Now you can see UST players punching the opponents
Ginebra, Ginebra!
USTinian_Pride
Sep 6, 2009, 05:10 PM
Anybody will do basta huwag lang si Alfredo Jarencio :bop:
CaptainCharisma
Sep 6, 2009, 05:17 PM
Pido coaches like Jawo
Now you can see UST players punching the opponents
Ginebra, Ginebra!
natawa ako dito, tama tama hahaha
the_shot
Sep 6, 2009, 05:31 PM
Imagine if they could have used ababou and mirza in their natural positions instead of being undersized frontliners...
eh di nga malusutan ni abobo si colina kanina eh. dapat lamang siya sa speed dun kung small forward position niya.. ang bagal niya kanina parang tinatamad
vashta
Sep 6, 2009, 09:13 PM
Dapat palitan!!! Si Pido **** ang may problema sa UST.. Tuwing practice, *** syang alam gawin kundi murahin ng murahin ang mga players except sympre and favorite nyang si abababou. Pinag iinitan nya si Bautista, Camus at Mirza, tapos pag natatalo sila yung mga players ang sinisisi, to the point of him accusing them na binebenta yung laro.. tama ba nmn yun for a coach??! Wala syang alam gawin kundi manigaw at magmura, hindi sya marunong magmotivate ng tama.. Kaya ang mga players nappressure at hindi makapaglaro ng tama dahil takot silang magkamali... Grabe **** yan si PIDO!!! Kawawa ang players nya, bumababa ang morale dahil sa kanya, tuwing talo sila umiiyak nlng sila sa sama ng loob!! dapat na **** syang palitan, dahil kung hindi, madaming mga key players ang aalis ng team!!
Hindsight
Sep 6, 2009, 09:16 PM
eh di nga malusutan ni abobo si colina kanina eh. dapat lamang siya sa speed dun kung small forward position niya.. ang bagal niya kanina parang tinatamad
PLAYER BURNOUT with PIDO's style of coaching. Demoralized including USTe's fans.:mecry:
Bahay_Kubo
Sep 6, 2009, 09:43 PM
Is'nt coach beujing acot a good defensive coach?
Mukhang kulang lang sa materyales this year since walang naiwan na malaki.
Imagine if they could have used ababou and mirza in their natural positions instead of being undersized frontliners...
wala na sa UST si Coach Beaujing Acot.
person
Sep 6, 2009, 10:05 PM
whatever happens this season, final four man or hindi, i think it's time for Pido to resign.. in the 3 years Pido has coached the tigers:
2006: UAAP Champions (though the players he had at his disposal were recruited by Parado and Aric)
2007: had to eliminate FEU in a playoff match only to lose to Ateneo (which at that time i feel UST was stronger than Ateneo)
2008: we missed the final four (Pido brings in Fortuna (the so called blue chip PG who would replace Japs, Camus who is doing well as our big man, Tata who has been in a slump, Maliksi who can only play this year, Fenequito, Wong, and that other guard from EAC who are now gone..)
2009: we need only one game to clinch the final four and yet we still cant secure it.. so now it looks like we will have a playoff match against DLSU
if UST still keeps Pido for next year, then lets all sign a petition asking for his resignation... Coaches like Franz, Dindo, Norman Black, Glenn Capacio, Lawrence Chongson and Leo Austria are all better coaches compared to him.. who are the coaches out there na magaling na pwede kapalit ni Pido?
1. Koy Banal
2. Jorge Gallent
3. Beaujing Acot
4. Binky Favis
5. Jun Noel (though he's too old)
Bahay_Kubo
Sep 6, 2009, 10:08 PM
^ i guess you must strike out Beaujing Acot on your short list. may nagsabi sa akin na "may issue daw" si Acot with UST kaya daw nag-resign as assistant coach ni Pido.
RuckuS
Sep 6, 2009, 10:42 PM
let Pido stay! para matuwa naman mga kalaban. he's funny.
Bahay_Kubo
Sep 6, 2009, 10:48 PM
let Pido stay! para matuwa naman mga kalaban. he's funny.
dapat binigyan ng pampakalma si Pido kanina. kulang na lang kasi ay ihataw niya sa mga players niya yung monobloc chair na inuupuan niya. :lol:
seriously though, as long as Ermito De Sagun and Felicitas Francisco put much of their trust on Pido Jarencio, malabong mapaalis yan. siguro si Beaujing Acot maaatim pa nilang mawala pero si Pido, malabo kasi bata nila yan. :D
Terta
Sep 6, 2009, 10:55 PM
UST must have a new coach next season, kung pwede nga lang ngayon na sana. Sayang mga players, they are really talented, nakakapanghinayang. Ngayon laban sa adamson, yumuyuko na lang si Pido as if nagiisip wala namang maisip!! kailangang ng UST ng matalinong coach!!! games against La Salle and FEU this second round, walang kahit anong pantapat na depensa o stratehiya. Wala na siyang magawa lalo na kapag dikit ang scores. Coach Pido magisip ka naman ng bagong strategies. Puro puso, tapang hanggang doon lang, kakapanghinayang 4th place na nga lumabo pa, hay... Tama na si Coach Pido, we need a new coach. He needs to resign!! Alam niya sana na hindi na niya kaya, hingi na sya tulong sa mas effective sa kanya!! dami ng nasayang na laro.
Bahay_Kubo
Sep 6, 2009, 10:58 PM
nakasama talaga yung pagreresign ni Beaujing Acot as UST Assistant Coach. si Acot at si Dong Vergeire talaga ang "utak" ng UST coaching staff habang si Pido naman yung "motivational speaker".
Terta
Sep 6, 2009, 11:04 PM
dapat binigyan ng pampakalma si Pido kanina. kulang na lang kasi ay ihataw niya sa mga players niya yung monobloc chair na inuupuan niya. :lol:
seriously though, as long as Ermito De Sagun and Felicitas Francisco put much of their trust on Pido Jarencio, malabong mapaalis yan. siguro si Beaujing Acot maaatim pa nilang mawala pero si Pido, malabo kasi bata nila yan. :D
eh kasi daughter ni Felicitas Francisco yung isang assistant coach na girl. napakadami pang mga nakapaligid na asst. coaches kay coach Pido, ano naman kaya silbi nila? kung pagsama-samahin kaya ang sweldo ng mga yun at ipambayad sa isang matinong coach or asst. coach mas okey malamang! Sana magisip si De Sagun and Francisco ng mataimtim at marealize nila palitan na si Pido Jarencio. Magaling siyang basketball player pero kulang na kulang siya bilang coach..
Bahay_Kubo
Sep 6, 2009, 11:07 PM
^ kaya nga maraming assistant coaches ang UST eh- to back up Pido Jarencio's shortcomings as a head coach. :glee:
Vhemvhol
Sep 6, 2009, 11:09 PM
most of the time ang play ng ust eh isolation lang, madalas para kay ababou. tulad nung game against la salle, basang-basa na ng la salle kung kanino mapupunta yung bola sa last play kaya nadepensahan ng maiigi. tapos wala pang depensa, mahihirapan talaga manalo nyan.
imho, mas bagay na assistant coach si pido. kelangan ng ust yung solid na bench tactician, yung nakakagawa ng in-game adjustments. hindi yung nag re-rely lang on the players talent alone to win games. peace.
greg_page
Sep 6, 2009, 11:12 PM
I think this is a make or break season for Jarencio. UST has at least 3 chances to make it to the final 4 outright dating from the La Salle game. If UST won't eventually make it, I bet Jarencio will be fired.
Bahay_Kubo
Sep 6, 2009, 11:12 PM
most of the time ang play ng ust eh isolation lang, madalas para kay ababou. tulad nung game against la salle, basang-basa na ng la salle kung kanino mapupunta yung bola sa last play kaya nadepensahan ng maiigi. tapos wala pang depensa, mahihirapan talaga manalo nyan.
imho, mas bagay na assistant coach si pido. kelangan ng ust yung solid na bench tactician, yung nakakagawa ng in-game adjustments. hindi yung nag re-rely lang on the players talent alone to win games. peace.
walang ibang maisip na plays si Pido bukod sa one-on-one at isolation. like what i said before, masyadong predictable yung plays ng UST kaya alam agad ng kalaban kung sino ang dapat depensahan.
i am sorry to say this pero yung mga teams na sobrang tinalo ng UST this year have coaches that are almost in the same mold as Pido Jarencio- predictable, one-dimensional.
Terta
Sep 6, 2009, 11:15 PM
Replace Coach Pido...
Vhemvhol
Sep 6, 2009, 11:17 PM
mas maganda sana kung imbis na 3ps (pride, puso, palaban) eh 4ps (pride, puso, palaban, plays) ang naisip ni pido.
Bahay_Kubo
Sep 6, 2009, 11:18 PM
Replace Coach Pido...
ang tanong ay kung sinong dapat ipalit kay Pido. si Aric na naman ba? si Acot ba na kaya umalis sa UST ay dahil sa isang "isyu"? si Binky Favis ba na mas gugustuhin pang mag-PBA kasi mas malaki ang kitaan doon? si Alfrancis Chua ba na mas interesado pang magtayo ng negosyo sa China? :?:
azgauth
Sep 6, 2009, 11:25 PM
Siot Tanquincen FTW! lol!
Terta
Sep 6, 2009, 11:25 PM
^ kaya nga maraming assistant coaches ang UST eh- to back up Pido Jarencio's shortcomings as a head coach. :glee:
Hindi din naman ramdam yung expertise nila. They are not capable of helping Coach Pido, not an effective back-up :(
Bahay_Kubo
Sep 6, 2009, 11:27 PM
azgauth: hindi na aalis si Siot sa PBA. mas malaki ang bayad dun kumpara sa UST. :naughty: :lol:
Terta: yun nga eh. parang wala lang yung ibang assistant coaches ni Pido. it's, still, Pido's call.
azgauth
Sep 6, 2009, 11:30 PM
azgauth: hindi na aalis si Siot sa PBA. mas malaki ang bayad dun kumpara sa UST. :naughty: :lol:
Terta: yun nga eh. parang wala lang yung ibang assistant coaches ni Pido. it's, still, Pido's call.
Now I wonder how much ADMU pays for Black. :bop:
Gospel of Judas
Sep 6, 2009, 11:31 PM
yung intense style ni pido parang kay jamike. pero no offense si jamike at least maraming plays.
Hindsight
Sep 7, 2009, 06:46 AM
Kulang yung 3 P's ni Coach PIDO. Kailangan ng T - TALINO!
b a d a s s
Sep 7, 2009, 09:10 AM
wala na sa UST si Coach Beaujing Acot.
Where's he now?
Bahay_Kubo
Sep 7, 2009, 10:51 AM
Where's he now?
if i am not mistaken, siya ngayon ang head coach ng RTU Juniors.
koichi777
Sep 7, 2009, 02:10 PM
Now I wonder how much ADMU pays for Black. :bop:
Whatever Ateneo is paying Black, he's worth every cent. Kita mo naman ang resulta. He's a great basketball tactician, one of the best in the Philippines today.
Plus, year in and year out, Ateneo is able to harvest a big share of the blue chip HS players, perpetually feeding the Seniors team with great talent.
Kung baga, branded name coach si Norman Black. And brand names can command higher fees obviously.
USTinian_Pride
Sep 7, 2009, 05:29 PM
I don't lke Jarencio's coaching antiques particularly during games on national TV...it's really uncalled for.
gabert
Sep 7, 2009, 07:42 PM
Pido must make the ultimate sacrifice- RESIGN. If you really love UST then you should've done this a long time ago coach.
EcKo_01
Sep 7, 2009, 07:53 PM
no need for pido to resign. just hire a real defensive tactician whom he can work with on the sides. You can't win with offense alone esp if you dont know how to defend.
gabert
Sep 7, 2009, 08:04 PM
^ even his offensive plays are not working
theeng69
Sep 7, 2009, 08:52 PM
stubborn si Pido e. puro talent sya palaban. back in season 70, Ateneo never had great talent in their team. Tiu and Arao weren't even as talented as Cruz, Ababou, Mirza, and Cuan of UST back then but Ateneo dominated them back then because of good plays. wala pa siyang depensa at sub par lang ang kanyang offensive plays. if he wanted a pure offensive team e dapat sana nearly impossible to stop ang offense niya like the Phoenix Suns of yesteryears or at least like the Air21 team of Bo Perasol. what happens after the departure of Dylan and Mirza? I don't think Teng is ready to grab the 34 points that those two will leave behind. not even 20 points I believe.
crusader1
Sep 7, 2009, 08:56 PM
Whoa! Hold your horses. Let's finish this season first and then let's start talking. Mahirap na, baka kainin ninyo ang mga binitiwan ninyong mga salita. ;)
therapist20069
Sep 7, 2009, 09:11 PM
BSP = Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas
BSP = Bano Si Pido
PBB = Pinoy Big Brother
PBB = Pido Banban Bano
3 P's = Pride, Puso, Palaban
FRIED - ginigisa at piniprito ni Pido ang mga players nya sa bawat pagkakamali.
PUSO - Saging lang ang may puso; mga players ng UST nagmumukhang unggoy dahil panay puso. Yung mga tigre nagiging PUSA.
PALABHAN - Tapos sabunin ni Pido ang mga players, binabanlawan at sinasampay.
paul_theking
Sep 7, 2009, 09:12 PM
PIDO should change the mindset of his players and motivate them correctly, not shouting and cursing at them..the veterans should also take the lead..=) I still hope that UST will win against UE
aoshi_orochi
Sep 7, 2009, 09:42 PM
Tingin ko hindi dapat palitan si Pido because he did a great job this season. He got over the expectations na "wala ng kwenta ang ust kasi lahat na ng vets umalis na" nobody expected that they would be at the top 4.
More so..Maliksi and Green (I don't know the reasons but they're indeed helpful front court players.) was not able to play these past games so it's unfortunate that UST can't compete at their full potential. Pido also had done a good job for shaping up Camus this season, for recruiting Teng, Maliksi, and molding an MVP-like player in Dylan Ababou.
Ang tingin ko naman na dapat pagtrabahuhan ni Pido ay si Mirza, if he'll not be able to contribute on a consistent level, Ababou himself won't be able to carry the load alone. Nevertheless, great season thus far. GOOD LUCK uste!
*for my gf na tomasian
Vhemvhol
Sep 8, 2009, 07:07 AM
the hardball guys tackled the issues surrounding ust's collapse on last night's episode. they too think that may problema nga sa leadership and sa coaching ang ust.
DBecks2009
Sep 8, 2009, 07:17 AM
stubborn si Pido e. puro talent sya palaban. back in season 70, Ateneo never had great talent in their team. Tiu and Arao weren't even as talented as Cruz, Ababou, Mirza, and Cuan of UST back then but Ateneo dominated them back then because of good plays. wala pa siyang depensa at sub par lang ang kanyang offensive plays. if he wanted a pure offensive team e dapat sana nearly impossible to stop ang offense niya like the Phoenix Suns of yesteryears or at least like the Air21 team of Bo Perasol. what happens after the departure of Dylan and Mirza? I don't think Teng is ready to grab the 34 points that those two will leave behind. not even 20 points I believe.
i still believe that even if Dylan, Khasim and Allein won't be around anymore next season, our team is still strong. Our centers are going to play na, Soc Rivera might play, plus, some of our Tiger Cubs who are about to graduate this year(Kyle Neypes, Cedrick 11 and others...) can contribute to our cause next season, provided that they will stick to UST. We might even have a more balanced offense.
So i really don't think Coach Pido should resign. He did his best during the off-season to shape-up the Tigers and his efforts are slowly paying off. I am frustrated as well like you guys after what happened with the game last Sunday. But just keep the faith with our team. I am optimistic they can pull it through and enter the f4. *okay*
homerubadzmaru
Sep 8, 2009, 08:30 AM
Hhaha. U Got It Dude! Funny One! Yet True!
homerubadzmaru
Sep 8, 2009, 08:31 AM
i still believe that even if Dylan, Khasim and Allein won't be around anymore next season, our team is still strong. Our centers are going to play na, Soc Rivera might play, plus, some of our Tiger Cubs who are about to graduate this year(Kyle Neypes, Cedrick 11 and others...) can contribute to our cause next season, provided that they will stick to UST. We might even have a more balanced offense.
So i really don't think Coach Pido should resign. He did his best during the off-season to shape-up the Tigers and his efforts are slowly paying off. I am frustrated as well like you guys after what happened with the game last Sunday. But just keep the faith with our team. I am optimistic they can pull it through and enter the f4. *okay*
UST SUCKZ IN HELL!
Hindsight
Sep 8, 2009, 08:52 AM
THIS IS IT.:grrr:
Crucial time for Coach PIDO & his boys to prove their critics wrong and stop their downward spiral.
Otherwise, another loss to the WARRIORS is like a death blow to their FINAL 4 chances with the ARCHERS eagerly waiting on the wings to shoot them down next Thursday. :(
legman11
Sep 8, 2009, 09:56 AM
psp= palitan Si Pido
psp= paalisin Si Pido
theeng69
Sep 8, 2009, 10:11 AM
i still believe that even if Dylan, Khasim and Allein won't be around anymore next season, our team is still strong. Our centers are going to play na, Soc Rivera might play, plus, some of our Tiger Cubs who are about to graduate this year(Kyle Neypes, Cedrick 11 and others...) can contribute to our cause next season, provided that they will stick to UST. We might even have a more balanced offense.
So i really don't think Coach Pido should resign. He did his best during the off-season to shape-up the Tigers and his efforts are slowly paying off. I am frustrated as well like you guys after what happened with the game last Sunday. But just keep the faith with our team. I am optimistic they can pull it through and enter the f4. *okay*
lol. tingnan mo La Salle ngayon. they have the best rookies in the nation. galing pa sa RP Youth Team for your information. Their coach is even probably the best in collegiate basketball. they also have veterans that prior to this season, mataas ang speculations of their stardom. But what happened? La Salle is struggling to enter the final four.
Ngayon pa lang, with very good players like Mirza and Ababou, UST is also struggling to keep their last final four slot. What happens kung wala na si Mirza and Ababou? The prbable incoming UST rookies you mentioned aren't near as talented as the line up of Bringas, Andrada, Tolentino, and Marata. Teng won't even be considered a veteran next year considering he's just in his sophomore year. And of course, Pido is nowhere near the far more superior coaching of Franz Pumaren. So, if they keep Pido, UST will fall far down next season.
tigerman
Sep 8, 2009, 10:42 AM
back in season 70, Ateneo never had great talent in their team. Tiu and Arao weren't even as talented as Cruz, Ababou, Mirza, and Cuan of UST back then but Ateneo dominated them back then because of good plays.
Last time I checked, the UST-Ateneo head-to-head record was 2-1 in your favor. How can you say that we were dominated? Heck, your 2nd round win was a result of Kirk Long's buzzer-beater gamewinner. In the 1st round, we won via a large margin thanks to Khasim's explosion. In the step ladder match, the 2 teams battled tooth and nail all throughout and the breaks of the game in the end just went your way.
While I concede to the fact that the Ateneo 2007 team was not as talented as the 2006 team due to the departure of Intal, Escalona and Kramer, the UST 2007 team also saw the exit of two vital cogs in Duncil and Evangelista.
wala pa siyang depensa
Yes, we're probably the worst defensive team stat-wise but to say that "wala pa siyang depensa" is totally erroneous.
Didn't we play good defense against Ateneo and FEU in the 2nd round? Or against DLSU in the 2nd half of last Thursday? Or against Paul Lee in the 1st round where he shot 0 for 12?
USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!
rpp18
Sep 8, 2009, 10:53 AM
yes........
Synergy07
Sep 8, 2009, 10:54 AM
Bakit yung ibang thomasians e close-minded. Look at this forum.
http://ust.net.ph/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1255&sid=05987dc7ba8ae09975e08200451158bd&start=15
http://ust.net.ph/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=481&sid=05987dc7ba8ae09975e08200451158bd&start=90
RuckuS
Sep 8, 2009, 11:03 AM
wag nyo paalisin si Pido! magiging siryoso na masyado ang UAAP kung walang comic relief!
DBecks2009
Sep 8, 2009, 01:19 PM
lol. tingnan mo La Salle ngayon. they have the best rookies in the nation. galing pa sa RP Youth Team for your information. Their coach is even probably the best in collegiate basketball. they also have veterans that prior to this season, mataas ang speculations of their stardom. But what happened? La Salle is struggling to enter the final four.
Ngayon pa lang, with very good players like Mirza and Ababou, UST is also struggling to keep their last final four slot. What happens kung wala na si Mirza and Ababou? The prbable incoming UST rookies you mentioned aren't near as talented as the line up of Bringas, Andrada, Tolentino, and Marata. Teng won't even be considered a veteran next year considering he's just in his sophomore year. And of course, Pido is nowhere near the far more superior coaching of Franz Pumaren. So, if they keep Pido, UST will fall far down next season.
if that's what you think about UST, so be it. but definitely, UST will perform much better next season. Why? Because since the centers that we have are going to play, more rebounds, more chances and more opportunities to score. Plus better defense in the ceiling. Most of the incoming rookies from Tiger Cubs(if they decided to stick with UST) are also part of the RP Youth Team. *okay* fyi. If Kyle will be a growling tiger, he is the best replacement for Dylan ababou. He has the height(6'3), can drive to the basket, can shoot from the outside as well. Most likely, four players will be gone next season. Plus, some of the current rookies will be relegated to team B. So expect lots of rookies again next season.
Let's just see if UST will really fall far down next season. :naughty:
For now, GO USTE on Thursday. *okay*
kram_mcoy
Sep 8, 2009, 01:51 PM
give him the benefit of a doubt..i think his doing good as far as his coaching skill is concern..
theeng69
Sep 8, 2009, 07:00 PM
if that's what you think about UST, so be it. but definitely, UST will perform much better next season. Why? Because since the centers that we have are going to play, more rebounds, more chances and more opportunities to score. Plus better defense in the ceiling. Most of the incoming rookies from Tiger Cubs(if they decided to stick with UST) are also part of the RP Youth Team. *okay* fyi. If Kyle will be a growling tiger, he is the best replacement for Dylan ababou. He has the height(6'3), can drive to the basket, can shoot from the outside as well. Most likely, four players will be gone next season. Plus, some of the current rookies will be relegated to team B. So expect lots of rookies again next season.
Let's just see if UST will really fall far down next season. :naughty:
For now, GO USTE on Thursday. *okay*
Talent is always a given for UST. But the X-Factor here is the coaching. So what if a lot of good centers will enter UST next seaon? Pido isn't a good big man coach and his system is not a big man centered system. Jervy Cruz is an exception cause he's just a natural talent. And there is no reason how the incoming UST rookies can take over what Ababou and Mirza will leave behind. Did Marata, Tolentino, Bringas, and Andrada, in one season, take over what Casio and Maierhofer left behind? I don't think so--not even half as far as the stat sheets are concerned.
crusader1
Sep 8, 2009, 10:55 PM
lol. tingnan mo La Salle ngayon. they have the best rookies in the nation. galing pa sa RP Youth Team for your information. Their coach is even probably the best in collegiate basketball. they also have veterans that prior to this season, mataas ang speculations of their stardom.
Hmm...sino kaya ang coach ng RP Youth team?;) Masyado ata niyang pinaboran ang La salle at ni-raid niya ang line-up ng RP Youth Team. Sino nga kaya siya?
DBecks2009
Sep 9, 2009, 08:28 AM
Talent is always a given for UST. But the X-Factor here is the coaching. So what if a lot of good centers will enter UST next seaon? Pido isn't a good big man coach and his system is not a big man centered system. Jervy Cruz is an exception cause he's just a natural talent. And there is no reason how the incoming UST rookies can take over what Ababou and Mirza will leave behind. Did Marata, Tolentino, Bringas, and Andrada, in one season, take over what Casio and Maierhofer left behind? I don't think so--not even half as far as the stat sheets are concerned.
Jervy Cruz sitout for 1 or 2 years in the uaap because he is still raw for UAAP that's why eh only played three years instead of the usual 4 or 5. Yes Jervy has natural talent but he became a behemoth despite being an undersized center at 6'4 not just because of Coach Pido's motivation but also how he developed him to be one. *okay*
Regarding your question regarding Marata, Tolentino, Bringas and Andrada, of course they can't yet, but they are already making an impact. That's what my point is.
For the incoming rookies, of course they can't fill the void left yet by Dylan, Khasim and allein but rest assured those rookies will also make an impact just like La Salle's rookies this season. *okay*
danella
Sep 9, 2009, 03:11 PM
Jervy Cruz sitout for 1 or 2 years in the uaap because he is still raw for UAAP that's why eh only played three years instead of the usual 4 or 5. Yes Jervy has natural talent but he became a behemoth despite being an undersized center at 6'4 not just because of Coach Pido's motivation but also how he developed him to be one. *okay*
Regarding your question regarding Marata, Tolentino, Bringas and Andrada, of course they can't yet, but they are already making an impact. That's what my point is.
For the incoming rookies, of course they can't fill the void left yet by Dylan, Khasim and allein but rest assured those rookies will also make an impact just like La Salle's rookies this season. *okay*
Kung hindi ako nagkakamali, kaya hindi nakapaglaro agad sa UAAP si Jervy ay dahil sa grades niya. May mga bagsak ata siya nung nag-aaral siya. Isa na sa magagaling si Jervy nung Team B pa lang siya. Nainterview ko siya nung 1st year ako at ang sabi niya, 4 years daw siya sa Team B at 3 years lang ang ilalaro niya sa UAAP.
DBecks2009
Sep 9, 2009, 03:17 PM
^^ thanks for the clarification then. so it means, kung tutuusin pwede siya maglaro ng more than three years kaso mao-overage na siya.
ece29390
Sep 9, 2009, 04:05 PM
hmmm kaya pala 3 years lang ang nilaro ni Jervy malaking lost siya sa UST, though I'm not from UST favorite ko players nila way back Cantonjos,Ballesteros,Singson,Ong,David and Espino era
Solid_LaSalle
Sep 10, 2009, 05:54 AM
Remember pa ba niyo ito?
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c143/speedracerxxx888/pidodlsuustbq5.jpg
bagtitako
Sep 10, 2009, 09:33 AM
Last time I checked, the UST-Ateneo head-to-head record was 2-1 in your favor. How can you say that we were dominated? Heck, your 2nd round win was a result of Kirk Long's buzzer-beater gamewinner. In the 1st round, we won via a large margin thanks to Khasim's explosion. In the step ladder match, the 2 teams battled tooth and nail all throughout and the breaks of the game in the end just went your way.
While I concede to the fact that the Ateneo 2007 team was not as talented as the 2006 team due to the departure of Intal, Escalona and Kramer, the UST 2007 team also saw the exit of two vital cogs in Duncil and Evangelista.
Yes, we're probably the worst defensive team stat-wise but to say that "wala pa siyang depensa" is totally erroneous.
Didn't we play good defense against Ateneo and FEU in the 2nd round? Or against DLSU in the 2nd half of last Thursday? Or against Paul Lee in the 1st round where he shot 0 for 12?
USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!
I am not sure why you single out Ateneo pexers on their comment on UST but I have to give it to you.
I think you are more than qualified to replace Pido and have your statue erected at the UST gate. *okay*
Now I just hope NU beats DLSU or UST beats UE so that ADMU might have a chance to face UST in the F4 but then again you will still have all your reasons why you lost... Hay...
Eto isang comment sa UST at dito magalit ka din at sabihing mali lahat ng opinion sa UST ok? :depressed:
http://www.inboundpass.com/2009/09/09/don-quixote-and-the-four-horsemen/
Good luck on your game this afternoon and I earnestly hope you make it to the F4.
theeng69
Sep 10, 2009, 09:52 AM
I am not sure why you single out Ateneo pexers on their comment on UST but I have to give it to you.
I think you are more than qualified to replace Pido and have your statue erected at the UST gate. *okay*
Now I just hope NU beats DLSU or UST beats UE so that ADMU might have a chance to face UST in the F4 but then again you will still have all your reasons why you lost... Hay...
Eto isang comment sa UST at dito magalit ka din at sabihing mali lahat ng opinion sa UST ok? :depressed:
http://www.inboundpass.com/2009/09/09/don-quixote-and-the-four-horsemen/
Good luck on your game this afternoon and I earnestly hope you make it to the F4.
napansin ko rin na medyo close minded siya when it comes to criticism to UST. I would be open for any criticism on Ateneo. Ateneo, as good as the team is, is still imperfect what more is UST?
marky_83
Sep 10, 2009, 06:00 PM
this is a very tricky issue. honestly, i wanted pido's head last year.. i just thought he could/should have done more with UST's lineup then, and maybe even the year before that. this year? im giving him the benefit of the doubt cause i think we overachieved :)
this year; without jervy cruz to man the middle, Pido resorted to the running game and that caught teams flatfooted in the first round. but as the games wore on, his gameplan got found out. he just doesn't have a plan b. but then again, maybe he doesnt have the personnel for a plan b. i mean, mirza at center? that says a lot about the lack of options in the frontcourt. pido had to make do with those limitations and i think he acquitted himself very well; whatever happens in UST's succeeding games.
I also liked the work that he did on Jeric Fortuna. he's a much steadier PG this year.
IMHO: keep Pido for another year. its not like there are a lot of options out there.
USTinian_Pride
Sep 10, 2009, 06:02 PM
Pido should thank Coach Manny :bop:
tigerman
Sep 10, 2009, 11:38 PM
napansin ko rin na medyo close minded siya when it comes to criticism to UST. I would be open for any criticism on Ateneo. Ateneo, as good as the team is, is still imperfect what more is UST?
Close-minded? Never did I prohibit anyone to criticize our team for I am very much aware of their flaws.
I'm simply making the corrections to your erroneous remarks. That's all.
USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!
tigerman
Sep 10, 2009, 11:49 PM
I am not sure why you single out Ateneo pexers on their comment on UST but I have to give it to you.
I have nothing against Ateneans or Ateneo pexers. As I've said on my reply to theeng69, I'm just making the necessary corrections to your erroneous remarks.
I think you are more than qualified to replace Pido and have your statue erected at the UST gate. *okay*
We're in the middle of a healthy exchange of views and all of a sudden, you replied in this way? I'm disappointed.
Now I just hope NU beats DLSU or UST beats UE so that ADMU might have a chance to face UST in the F4 but then again you will still have all your reasons why you lost... Hay...
Explaining is different from making excuses.
Eto isang comment sa UST at dito magalit ka din at sabihing mali lahat ng opinion sa UST ok? :depressed:
http://www.inboundpass.com/2009/09/09/don-quixote-and-the-four-horsemen/
Thanks for the link. I'll read it for your satisfaction.
Good luck on your game this afternoon and I earnestly hope you make it to the F4.
Thank you very much.
USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!
Jess24
Sep 11, 2009, 08:07 AM
I didnt like how Jarencio responded to yesterday's game vs UE. Sure it was a no-bearing match and the results will not alter their placing in the Final 4, but hey, you've got to show some pride and desire to win out there. Lawrence Chiongson of UE was coaching like he was in the playoffs up to the last few seconds in the game. Pido? He was wisecracking jokes in the locker room and exchanging banter with players, staff and even some of the crowd near the UST bench during the game. What gives? Is he happy and content going to the Final 4 with a 3 game losing run?
Maybe some will say that he's just trying to make his players feel a little more relaxed after NU giftwrapped their F4 slot earlier in the day. But what you dont want to have right now is a false sense of complacency after a nearly disastrous 2nd round campaign.
I hope we can give our Final 4 opponent a good fight. And I hope Pido gets his act together because he may soon find out that the joke is on him.
Hindsight
Sep 11, 2009, 08:38 AM
Getting into the FINAL 4 because of other team's efforts isn't a great feeling. A win against the WARRIORS would have been a great morale booster for the inconsistent TIGERS.
I sincerely doubt it if Coach PIDO with his current attitude towards the games can pull a surprise win against Coach NORMAN this time around.:(
azgauth
Sep 11, 2009, 11:29 AM
I think its all part of his battleplan. Be underdogs all the way so that his opponent will underestimate his team and then he'll catch them unprepared.
He's been very vocal on how he loves being an underdog.
Aleancelo
Sep 11, 2009, 11:32 AM
hmmm kaya pala 3 years lang ang nilaro ni Jervy malaking lost siya sa UST, though I'm not from UST favorite ko players nila way back Cantonjos,Ballesteros,Singson,Ong,David and Espino era
Si Henry Ong, nasa New Jersey na. Nakita ko last year.
crusader1
Sep 11, 2009, 11:32 AM
Let's be honest and realistic here. Among the F4 teams, UST has the thinnest, shallowest line-up. Don't expect much from them.
If they pull an upset, then well and good. Let's thank God for that.
Maning_Silva
Sep 11, 2009, 11:36 AM
With all due respect to UST fans here, I must say that even though your team made it into the Final Four this year, you must replace Pido Jarencio. Jarencio was a good player but he was NEVER a good coach. Your Title win 2006 was not really because Jarencio was a better coach than Norman Black but because your team had mature role players in Jojo Duncil, Allan Evangelista and Jervy Cruz.
Unfortunately for Jarencio crtics here, UST's return to the Final Four this year would just give Jarencio another reason to "make lambing" to his "amos" in UST, giving him another lease of life as the Tigers' Head Coach.
Aleancelo
Sep 11, 2009, 11:38 AM
Sino puwede pumalit kapag pinalitan siya? Si Coach Aric?
azgauth
Sep 11, 2009, 11:40 AM
Siot Tanquincen FTW! lol
Maning_Silva
Sep 11, 2009, 11:45 AM
I do not see Siot Tanquincen giving up his high-paying job in the PBA anytime soon so remove Siot from the list.
Who can become good replacements to Pido if ever he gets fired (which I honestly doubt because he is the "baby" of his "amos" Madre Damaso Francisco and Deadhorse De Sagun)? Binky Favis, Beaujing Acot.
clawed_out
Sep 11, 2009, 12:09 PM
No. I will still remain with my first statement.
He needs to be replaced.
Give credit where its due. The UST MBT not Pido.
tigerman
Sep 11, 2009, 05:27 PM
Dear Coach,
Sobra-sobra na 'tong final four para sa isang koponan na walang sentro at mahigit kalahati ng manlalaro ay rookies o sophomores. Salamat for overachieving this year.
Nagpapasalamat,
tigerman
zipzap007
Sep 11, 2009, 05:44 PM
Palitan hindi si Pido, dapat name ng team from UST Growling Tigers dapat UST Groping Kittens. Laging pagod na pagod pagdating sa 2nd half. Paano na kayo nyan mananalo sa "third half"? Lalo na pag kalaban nyo team ko na UE dahil gumagaling na ngayon ang aming "Chief Warriors" na si Paul Lee.
RuckuS
Sep 11, 2009, 05:55 PM
another record breaking season for Pido Jarencio and the Tigers! ngayon lang ako nakakita ng team na nakapasok sa Final4 with a lowly 6-8 record! tunay na SABIT sa estribo of the last bus going into the semis! go coach! i hope you keep your post there for years and years to come!
kobewan08
Sep 11, 2009, 05:57 PM
HINDI dapat palitan si coach... papalit ng coach, malaki nanaman adjustment...
also, correct me if i'm wrong, Pido also recruited many players for UST, many of whom will be felt in the coming seasons... IMO, if a new coach would take over now, he will have difficulty directing the team, as he would have to take time to consider the strenghts and weaknesses, both of the veterans and new recruits...
(again, i could be wrong about the recruitment thing)
again, hindi dapat palatan si pido, PERO, tama din yung iba, DAPAT matuto siya magdraw ng plays, hindi puro M & M... Motivation & Mura... add defense and set plays to the team...
opinion ko lang ito...
marky_83
Sep 11, 2009, 06:14 PM
if i remember correctly, UST under pido's guidance never won more than 6 games in the round robins. just saying.
azgauth
Sep 11, 2009, 06:41 PM
Im not here to defend pido. Just wanna clarify some points. ^_^
@ zipzap - Yes they indeed look very "pagod" come second half but this is mainly due to having one of the most if not the most shallow bench as compared to other f4 teams. aside from UST starting 5 (ababou, mirza, camus, fortuna and tata), only teng and maliksi can produce offensively for the team. They don't even have a legit center to begin with. In their 3 game losing streak, Maliksi wasn't part of the roster because he's at the hospital recovering from flu thus giving more playing time (and fatigue) for ababou and mirza. Another thing is their type of play (which is run and gun) requires...well... a lot of running.
@ marky - UST was at 8-6 during season 70. ^_^
marky_83
Sep 11, 2009, 06:51 PM
ah, really? thanks for the clarification :)
dannivince
Sep 11, 2009, 11:32 PM
The Problem with Pido is that he relies heavily on his motivational coaching, he likes making motivational speeches but it would take more than that..If you look at UST's lineup they actually have the Material to be at least above .500 team...which they're not...He is a good motivator but not a systematic type of coach...I think UST players are tired of hearing his speeches...They need a Coach who can do it all like Norman, Franz even Glenn Capacio....
loverboyhymen
Sep 12, 2009, 12:34 AM
Let us not be fair weather fans. Coach Pido still took us to the promise land in 2006 against Ateneo.
If we have the materials to be at least above .5 team then all our team needs is an inspiration to put their act together. Considering the talents we lost this year (talented center in Jervy), we should cut Coach Pido some slack.
clej
Sep 12, 2009, 10:53 AM
Glen Capacio as UST coach? Pido has better record than him. Since 2006, Pido appears 3 times in the final 4 and won 1 championship. Glen, even with a tall and talented line-up, missed the final 4 twice since 2006 and not won yet a championship. Assuming that feu ang mag champion this season 72, mas maganda pa rin record ni pido sa kanya.
I still go for Pido.
Grayback_316
Sep 12, 2009, 11:05 AM
Fluke ang win ng UST nung season 69.... walang DLSU ... and winning ng UST sa DLSU ay 1 in 10 years
azgauth
Sep 12, 2009, 03:02 PM
IMHO it is not UST's fault that DLSU was not part of the race when they won the crown.
It's like saying that season 72's champs will be a fluke too since DLSU is not part of the semis.
^_^
pepman
Sep 12, 2009, 10:08 PM
Glen Capacio as UST coach? Pido has better record than him. Since 2006, Pido appears 3 times in the final 4 and won 1 championship. Glen, even with a tall and talented line-up, missed the final 4 twice since 2006 and not won yet a championship. Assuming that feu ang mag champion this season 72, mas maganda pa rin record ni pido sa kanya.
I still go for Pido.
Isang beses lang po, he took over FEU in 2007.
Aleancelo
Sep 12, 2009, 10:14 PM
The Problem with Pido is that he relies heavily on his motivational coaching, he likes making motivational speeches but it would take more than that..If you look at UST's lineup they actually have the Material to be at least above .500 team...which they're not...He is a good motivator but not a systematic type of coach...I think UST players are tired of hearing his speeches...They need a Coach who can do it all like Norman, Franz even Glenn Capacio....
You mean a coach who is really a brilliant strategist.
dannivince
Sep 12, 2009, 10:53 PM
You mean a coach who is really a brilliant strategist.
Yeah a brilliant strategist and at the same time a good motivator...
RuckuS
Sep 12, 2009, 11:03 PM
Fluke ang win ng UST nung season 69.... walang DLSU ... and winning ng UST sa DLSU ay 1 in 10 years
wag na natin ibalik ang nakaraan kung ayaw nyo din mapaalahanan ng .. SUS! :p
just because the CHEATERS did not play that season doesnt mean that UST's win was a fluke. :rotflmao:
USTinian_Pride
Sep 13, 2009, 10:49 AM
Whether UST enter the Finals or not...I'm still for Jarencio's resignation :bop:
Derrick_Rose#1
Sep 13, 2009, 11:01 AM
Whether UST enter the Finals or not...I'm still for Jarencio's resignation :bop:
Kunin niya kasi na assistant coaches sina Patrick Fan, and Rey Evangelista next year.
Mga magagaling na defenders sila nung naglaro sila sa PBA, and matataas ang basketball IQ nila.
theeng69
Sep 13, 2009, 12:07 PM
may bagong motivational tactic si Pido which he employed in the game against UE. Extra passes=Extra rice after the game.
pepman
Sep 13, 2009, 12:24 PM
Naku tataba yang mga yan.....
Derrick_Rose#1
Sep 13, 2009, 12:44 PM
Naku tataba yang mga yan.....
:lol::lol::lol:
azgauth
Sep 13, 2009, 09:56 PM
maybe that's the reason why they're increasing numbers of TO's.
Extra pass to opponent / extra pass resulting to 24 second shot clock violation. lol
marky_83
Sep 15, 2009, 11:12 PM
one thing going for pido is the fact that his teams always play hard. no matter how big the opponent's advantage is, UST under pido never backs down. its a stark contrast to UST during the final years of Aric's tenure. i remember watching a final four game between lasalle and UST, with baguio as the star player. geeezzz. that team didnt have balls at all.
AARGGH!
Sep 19, 2009, 05:57 AM
No way. Pido is the best coach for the Growlers. He's a bona fide UST pride.
Grayback_316
Sep 19, 2009, 06:00 AM
We shall see pag nagimprove performance ng Tigers bukas... why not... makikita natin ngayon ang kinalabasan ng close door mental and physical training of the TIGERS this week
confusedguy
Sep 19, 2009, 08:31 AM
Sana manalo sila tomorrow. :)
Hindsight
Sep 21, 2009, 09:36 AM
Any "real" options for Head Coach of USTe to bring back the old glory days? :confused:
FINAL 4 status was achieved but too many doubts with the TIGERS' overall performance.:rolleyes:
gabert
Sep 21, 2009, 10:16 AM
yesssssssssssssssss
theeng69
Sep 21, 2009, 11:43 AM
FINAL 4 status was achieved but too many doubts with the TIGERS' overall performance.:rolleyes:
achieved? as far as I'm concerned, it was given to you.
IamGreen316
Sep 21, 2009, 11:49 AM
achieved? as far as I'm concerned, it was given to you.
I agree.
Nevertheless, the tigers didn't prove anything for their last few games and you call that achievement?
anima9
Sep 21, 2009, 11:53 AM
Coah Pido ended the drought for the basketball senior's division. he also has proven that he can always get the team to the final four even with relatively mediocre players.
I say we give Pido 1 more year. Just until the 2011 :) I mean, its not entirely HIS fault. The players were...weaker than when they started the season. I had high hopes with camus, ababou, and mirza.
clawed_out
Sep 21, 2009, 11:54 AM
Well, has anyone seen any improvements?
Heck NO.
Grayback_316
Sep 21, 2009, 11:58 AM
WAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Isa lang ang di nagamit ng maayos Tigers....
Playing SMART
whats the use of playing hard if you don't use your strengths right and be focused mentally.
Try compare that with society.....
Daming masisipag naghihirap...
Pero mga masisipag at ginagamit ang tanilo/kaalaman ... sila nagtatagumpay.
spiderdude
Sep 21, 2009, 02:06 PM
in my opinion
why get a coach who can only motivate players....where there are others who can do both...motivate and play smart.
obscura
Sep 21, 2009, 04:04 PM
UST started the season 3-1.
their last 11 games they went 3-8. the 3 wins came against UP and NU.
i think UST is perceived as overachievers because they made the final four but their record show otherwise. 5 of their wins were against UP, NU and AdU- teams they are expected to beat.
against ADMU, UE, FEU and DLSU, the tigers went 1-8. i don't think you can call a solitary win against the perennial powerhouses as overachievement.
if not for the impressive showing of rookie jeric teng, baka nag-average pa siguro si mirza and ababou ng 37+ minutes per game. pido called dylan "super ababou", he should have realized na tao lang si ababou. heavy minutes, constant double teams and a run and gun style exacted a toll on ababou towards the end of the season. pag crucial minutes na ng game you can expect pido to draw a play designed for dylan even if he knows the double team is coming.
bl@ckgold25
Oct 3, 2009, 11:23 PM
I don't think the problem is on the players because look at our players, one is a possible MVP and the other is a possible rookie of the year. So how can we say that our team is bad. On my opinion the problem maybe is how the coach utilize this talents.
and our defence, DO YOU EVEN CALL THAT DEFENCE???.
I respect coach pido because he help the team in their title conquest last 2006. but if it is for the good of the team, we must replace him, UNLESS next year there is a great development. he must scout great prosepects, let us just hope next year we acquire the blue chip rookies like la salle and ateneo these past seasons.
paul_theking
Oct 4, 2009, 04:28 AM
YES, or add someone who would emphasize defense..
theeng69
Oct 4, 2009, 09:33 AM
I don't think the problem is on the players because look at our players, one is a possible MVP and the other is a possible rookie of the year. So how can we say that our team is bad. On my opinion the problem maybe is how the coach utilize this talents.
and our defence, DO YOU EVEN CALL THAT DEFENCE???.
I respect coach pido because he help the team in their title conquest last 2006. but if it is for the good of the team, we must replace him, UNLESS next year there is a great development. he must scout great prosepects, let us just hope next year we acquire the blue chip rookies like la salle and ateneo these past seasons.
Ang napansin ko sa recruitment ng UST, limited sila sa Metro Manila or at least Luzon. Di lahat ng blue chip rookies nasa Maynila. There are a lot of secret talents hidden in Mindanao and Visayas. Take for examples, Nonoy Baclao, RR Garcia, and James Yap. Those guys are arguably hidden talents since I never heard of other NCAA or UAAP schools who tried to recruit them. And if you look at the UST line up, not much players come from places outside Luzon. Siguro it really helps if you have other campuses outside Manila.
DBecks2009
Oct 5, 2009, 11:46 AM
^^ we have lots of excellent recruits coming outside of Metro Manila but your school, the one in Taft and in Morayta keeps on getting them offering "lucrative" perks during summer so they all flee the jungle before they actually enroll. :rolleyes:
DBecks2009
Oct 5, 2009, 12:15 PM
to answer the thread, i don't think it is appropritae for now to replace him. Those people asking him to resign only sees him on tv doing the coaching chores but do not see his efforts behind the cameras. Asking for improvements?
1) Dylan and Khasim really improved although the latter was inconsistent.
2) Jeric and Tata developed ball handling, not forcing their shots anymore.
3) Chris Camus improved on his overall game. I just love how this big guy steals the ball from the opponent *okay*
i may just cite three improvements but atleast, i notice something that other blind people/supporters don't :p
parokyano
Oct 5, 2009, 12:40 PM
Wag muna.. para may kuhanan pa ng panalo yung ibang teams.
greenballer
Oct 5, 2009, 12:45 PM
^^ we have lots of excellent recruits coming outside of Metro Manila but your school, the one in Taft and in Morayta keeps on getting them offering "lucrative" perks during summer so they all flee the jungle before they actually enroll. :rolleyes:
well that's not a nice thing to say. like your squeaky clean institution didn't have a share of controversies in recruitment. remember Duncil?
some kids look to play in the uaap regardless of perks and privelleges that will be given to them. siguro if blue chip rookie ka like Bringas and Buenafe may lucrative offer. pero what about the other guys? how about players like Elmer Espiritu, Pari Llagas, Paul Lee, Mac Cardona, LA Tenorio, Kokoy Hermossisima? Did you ever think that maybe they just wanted to play basketball for a chance to play at the professional ranks? afaik these players were not offered these lucrative perks you've been blabbing about. Cardona in particular tried out in La Salle as a walk-in prospect. Nobody expected him to be the King Archer during his time. Pero nung nakita na magaling sya ang daming nagsalita ng kung anu-ano dba? bigla nalang nga may bagong rule based sa situation nya eh. *coughs* FU montinola *coughs*
please don't blame your losses to other schools. hindi naman lahat ng teams na magagaling nag offer ng mga perks eh. sometimes its in the basketball program din eh.
cases in point: Ford Arao and Rabeh al Hussaini
hindi ba natin naaalala noon, sorry ateneans but I have to state this, na maraming fans ang inis na inis sa dalawang ito. personally, natatawa ako dati kasi they look lost whenever they are on the floor. Si Ford hindi alam gagawin pag hawak na nya yung bola, same as Rabeh. Pero in the 3 years na nasa ADMU sila under Norman Black, very significant ang naging improvement nila. Ford Arao was the go to post guy for ADMU noong 2006 (not sure, correct me if i'm wrong), and nobody expected Al Hussaini's improvement last year and this year, not so much as the MVP award right?
well anyway, back to your statement, if you're blaming the schools in taft and morayta for stealing your recruits, you better think again. why would a player settle for a basketball program when they can go somewhere better?
face it, except for that miracle run in 2006, USTs basketball program has not been as good as the programs in DLSU, ADMU, and FEU. I'm not saying that it's not a good program, pero if you compare it with what these 3 schools have done during the last decade, malayo talaga ang gap.
as they say, pana panahon lang yan. during the 90s powerhouse ang UST. maybe hindi lang talaga nila time ngayon. blaming schools for stealing recruits won't make your school any better.
parokyano
Oct 5, 2009, 12:54 PM
Tira tira din kasi nakukuha nilang Rookies. Like itong sila Fortuna.. lakat ng DLSU from HS. Sa mga provinces din nauunahan sila ng FEU sa pag rerecruit.
greenballer
Oct 5, 2009, 12:59 PM
ganun na nga. dapat siguro i-develop nalang nila kung ano natira sa kanila. kinda like Jervy.
point lang is wag sisihin ang FEU and DLSU kung hindi nakakakuha ng super players ang UST. siguro may pagkukulang din sa recruitment ang UST na kailangan nila ma-improve para mabalik ang glory years of the 90s.
masciust
Oct 5, 2009, 08:09 PM
Tira tira din kasi nakukuha nilang Rookies. Like itong sila Fortuna.. lakat ng DLSU from HS. Sa mga provinces din nauunahan sila ng FEU sa pag rerecruit.
Sama mo tol. :rotflmao: Caltex star shooter yan 47% from beyond-the-arc. Number two pa sa assist.
Love your own, who would support them kundi tayo ring thomasians. :D
Grayback_316
Oct 5, 2009, 08:29 PM
UST... really need developed BIG GUYS to win....coach barely matters ...of course w/o considering crunch time.
Running game isnt their game anyway....since they really SUCK at PASSING AND BALL HANDLING...
They need a coach / a better basketball program... not limiting themselves looking outside... but also inside the campus.
I saw a D-Wade Look-alike inside the UST campus as I visited a friend in UST... surely that N knows how to play BBALL unless he's on track and field :D
RuckuS
Oct 5, 2009, 08:51 PM
^^ we have lots of excellent recruits coming outside of Metro Manila but your school, the one in Taft and in Morayta keeps on getting them offering "lucrative" perks during summer so they all flee the jungle before they actually enroll. :rolleyes:
thats the sad FACT of recruitment. offering something like full scholarship and chance to have a Thomasian Education, plus maybe a little allowance and free board and lodging at some run of the mill, athlete's dorm isnt as attractive as it was during the 80's and maybe 90's. trust me, ganyan din lang offer ng Ateneo dati -- thus DARK AGES. and if you continue to hope and pray that TOP HS prospects will go to your team then you must be dreaming. UNLESS kung yung player eh bata pa lang ang pangarap na ay maging Tomasian.. but if not?
ive already posted before, IF education is the only thing you can offer your players then what advantage is that from all the other UAAP or even NCAA Colleges? face it .. ibang-iba na labanan ngayon when recruiting good players, scholarships, allowances and free board is just the tip of the iceberg, GIVEN na yan and ALL schools are offering that too, so with that aspect we can say that all offers are "equal" its the PERKS that tips the balance. kung ano yang "PERKS" na yan, i leave it to you to use your imagination. the earlier you guys realize that, the better it would be.
Posh Beckham
Oct 6, 2009, 05:21 AM
well that's not a nice thing to say. like your squeaky clean institution didn't have a share of controversies in recruitment. remember Duncil?
some kids look to play in the uaap regardless of perks and privelleges that will be given to them. siguro if blue chip rookie ka like Bringas and Buenafe may lucrative offer. pero what about the other guys? how about players like Elmer Espiritu, Pari Llagas, Paul Lee, Mac Cardona, LA Tenorio, Kokoy Hermossisima? Did you ever think that maybe they just wanted to play basketball for a chance to play at the professional ranks? afaik these players were not offered these lucrative perks you've been blabbing about. Cardona in particular tried out in La Salle as a walk-in prospect. Nobody expected him to be the King Archer during his time. Pero nung nakita na magaling sya ang daming nagsalita ng kung anu-ano dba? bigla nalang nga may bagong rule based sa situation nya eh. *coughs* FU montinola *coughs*
please don't blame your losses to other schools. hindi naman lahat ng teams na magagaling nag offer ng mga perks eh. sometimes its in the basketball program din eh.
cases in point: Ford Arao and Rabeh al Hussaini
hindi ba natin naaalala noon, sorry ateneans but I have to state this, na maraming fans ang inis na inis sa dalawang ito. personally, natatawa ako dati kasi they look lost whenever they are on the floor. Si Ford hindi alam gagawin pag hawak na nya yung bola, same as Rabeh. Pero in the 3 years na nasa ADMU sila under Norman Black, very significant ang naging improvement nila. Ford Arao was the go to post guy for ADMU noong 2006 (not sure, correct me if i'm wrong), and nobody expected Al Hussaini's improvement last year and this year, not so much as the MVP award right?
well anyway, back to your statement, if you're blaming the schools in taft and morayta for stealing your recruits, you better think again. why would a player settle for a basketball program when they can go somewhere better?
face it, except for that miracle run in 2006, USTs basketball program has not been as good as the programs in DLSU, ADMU, and FEU. I'm not saying that it's not a good program, pero if you compare it with what these 3 schools have done during the last decade, malayo talaga ang gap.
as they say, pana panahon lang yan. during the 90s powerhouse ang UST. maybe hindi lang talaga nila time ngayon. blaming schools for stealing recruits won't make your school any better.
the controversy of Duncil is not yet proven so he is still innocent. Gaya-gaya ka lang kay Montinola.
We are not blaming our losses to other teams. The point of DBecks is that, kung hindi lang sana kayo "nanulot" ng recruit at maghanap kayo ng sarili niyong prospect na ide-develop, snaa fair and square ang laban.
It only shows that when money talks, everybody, really listens. :bop:
Posh Beckham
Oct 6, 2009, 05:25 AM
thats the sad FACT of recruitment. offering something like full scholarship and chance to have a Thomasian Education, plus maybe a little allowance and free board and lodging at some run of the mill, athlete's dorm isnt as attractive as it was during the 80's and maybe 90's. trust me, ganyan din lang offer ng Ateneo dati -- thus DARK AGES. and if you continue to hope and pray that TOP HS prospects will go to your team then you must be dreaming. UNLESS kung yung player eh bata pa lang ang pangarap na ay maging Tomasian.. but if not?
ive already posted before, IF education is the only thing you can offer your players then what advantage is that from all the other UAAP or even NCAA Colleges? face it .. ibang-iba na labanan ngayon when recruiting good players, scholarships, allowances and free board is just the tip of the iceberg, GIVEN na yan and ALL schools are offering that too, so with that aspect we can say that all offers are "equal" its the PERKS that tips the balance. kung ano yang "PERKS" na yan, i leave it to you to use your imagination. the earlier you guys realize that, the better it would be.
indeed! it is very disappointing that these days, getting good recruits in exchange of good education and scholarship is not enough. you really need to offer "big and lucrative perks" for your prospect to stay with your school. That's why the participation of alumni is very important to help give more perks for the "good prospect."
theeng69
Oct 6, 2009, 09:48 AM
indeed! it is very disappointing that these days, getting good recruits in exchange of good education and scholarship is not enough. you really need to offer "big and lucrative perks" for your prospect to stay with your school. That's why the participation of alumni is very important to help give more perks for the "good prospect."
because it's not always that you get the opportunity to play pro ball after college. in the cases kasi ng Ateneo or La Salle, they will always get jobs if ever they don't make it into pro ball kasi ang daming alumni na may ari ng big companies that could take them in. I still remember nung 2006 loss to UST, Mr. MVP said in the Church of the Gesu "Macky, you will always have a place in my company." swerte lang si Macky nadraft siya at medyo may itsura siya kaya medyo "celebrity status" siya ngayon.
actually if you look at the players who didn't make it into pro ball from UST and any other schools with respect from those from Ateneo and La Salle, you will see that those from Ateneo or La Salle still look like they're earning a lot as if they were playing in the PBA. I remember seeing BJ Manalo in the Juniors Finals. He looked like he earns about 50k per month judging from his and his family's clothes and their aura.
siguro naiisip ng mga High School players ang chances of not really making it big in the college ranks kaya naman they prepare a plan B. But as long as Pido is UST's coach, High School prospects should think of this: if they know how to shoot, they'll be superstars.
DBecks2009
Oct 6, 2009, 12:10 PM
because it's not always that you get the opportunity to play pro ball after college. in the cases kasi ng Ateneo or La Salle, they will always get jobs if ever they don't make it into pro ball kasi ang daming alumni na may ari ng big companies that could take them in. I still remember nung 2006 loss to UST, Mr. MVP said in the Church of the Gesu "Macky, you will always have a place in my company." swerte lang si Macky nadraft siya at medyo may itsura siya kaya medyo "celebrity status" siya ngayon.
actually if you look at the players who didn't make it into pro ball from UST and any other schools with respect from those from Ateneo and La Salle, you will see that those from Ateneo or La Salle still look like they're earning a lot as if they were playing in the PBA. I remember seeing BJ Manalo in the Juniors Finals. He looked like he earns about 50k per month judging from his and his family's clothes and their aura.
siguro naiisip ng mga High School players ang chances of not really making it big in the college ranks kaya naman they prepare a plan B. But as long as Pido is UST's coach, High School prospects should think of this: if they know how to shoot, they'll be superstars.
Pido is a good motivator and offensive coach but he is not a good tactician when it comes to executing plays and defense. That's what is missing for UST this season unlike during Jervy Cruz's era where their defense was really good with a good offense. The loss of Coach Acot left a very big void to fill up. Hopefully, they can get good defensive coach. JUst like the pattern of Purefoods, Ryan Gregorio as headcoach, Koy Banal as defensive coach and Ronnie Magsanoc as offensive coach.*okay*
Re BJ Manalo, yeah, I actually saw him and had some little chat with him about two months ago nung nagpagupit siya sa Bench. He seems very happy and successful even if he did not pursue pro. He is also a very nice person. *okay*
Regarding Macky, hindi kaya, crush siya ni MVP kaya niya sinabi yon? Well, anyway, whatever it is, it's none of our business. :naughty:
greenballer
Oct 6, 2009, 01:59 PM
the controversy of Duncil is not yet proven so he is still innocent. Gaya-gaya ka lang kay Montinola.
We are not blaming our losses to other teams. The point of DBecks is that, kung hindi lang sana kayo "nanulot" ng recruit at maghanap kayo ng sarili niyong prospect na ide-develop, snaa fair and square ang laban.
It only shows that when money talks, everybody, really listens. :bop:
really? name some players na sinulot ng DLSU from UST.
I don't think DLSU would bother "stealing" players from other teams. Face it, if you're an aspiring basketball player, would you choose to go to a second rate basketball program if you have the opportunity to play for a better basketball program? by impulse i think you'll choose to play for the better system, right?
Ababou was already in the athletes dormitory of DLSU when he suddenly bolted the team and went to UST during his rookie year. Money talks din kaya ang nangyari?
pusong_palaban
Oct 6, 2009, 06:00 PM
Hoy magsitigil nga kayo dyan!!! Puros kayo off topic!!! Magagalit si grand_packer (aka bscotche) nyan eh!!! Palku pa naman yung moderator na yun!
Bottom line is BOBO si PIDO!!! Palitan na yang bugok na yan, wala alam ituro kundi tira sa labas!!!!:grrr:
justin06
Oct 6, 2009, 06:09 PM
mukang nasabon ka lang sa ust.net.ph eh.haha
Sensui01
Oct 6, 2009, 06:21 PM
ang pagkakaalam ko gusto talaga ni ababou sa lasalle pero hindi siya binigyan ng second look. may article about dun.
tapos ust lang yung ibang team na nagoffer sa kanya na magtry out.
pero kung nagkataon na ateneo or feu ang nagoffer sa kanya malamang kinuha niya yun kaysa sa ust.
si arwind santos nga daw may mitsubishi adventure na player pa lang sya sa feu nun. yun ang perks na kaya ibigay ng feu.
saka si cyrus baguio sa lasalle din muna nagtry out bago napunta sa ust,
mahina talaga recruitment program ng ust.
sana kumuha sila ng coach na katulad ni leo austria na kahit hindi ganun kagaling yung mga narerecruit na players eh sa sobrang ganda ng sistema nya ay kaya nila lumaban sa lahat ng teams.
pusong_palaban
Oct 6, 2009, 06:32 PM
Wag nga kayo off topic guys!!! Si Pido ang dapat tanggalin dahil bugok sya parang yung moderator sa ust.net na si grand_packer (aka bscotche)
Wag kayo pupunta sa ust.net, pangit ang site na yun. Dito tayo sa PEX! D'best!
justin06
Oct 6, 2009, 06:39 PM
di ka lang makarelate kasi pang bashing sa pex lang ang alam mo. E kung sa gameface.ph ka or ust.net.ph ka, e di ka uubra dun.
pusong_palaban
Oct 6, 2009, 07:04 PM
di ka lang makarelate kasi pang bashing sa pex lang ang alam mo. E kung sa gameface.ph ka or ust.net.ph ka, e di ka uubra dun.
E bobo ka pala eh! Off topic ka ah! Sinabi nang si bobong PIDO ang topic dito eh! Ano ibig mo sabihin, di marunong ang moderator dito sa PEX!? Papayag ka ba nyan Kuya Danny!?
O siguro *** si palku grand_packer (aka bscotche) kaya masama loob mo? Get a life freak!
justin06
Oct 6, 2009, 07:12 PM
E bobo ka pala eh! Off topic ka ah! Sinabi nang si bobong PIDO ang topic dito eh! Ano ibig mo sabihin, di marunong ang moderator dito sa PEX!? Papayag ka ba nyan Kuya Danny!?
O siguro *** si palku grand_packer (aka bscotche) kaya masama loob mo? Get a life freak!
Kung meron mang dapat kainisan si KD dito sa pex e yang mga tulad mo na pulpol.(bawal pala ang text lingo dito) E bakit ka maiinis sa mga moderators ng ust.net.ph kung matino ka dun? I guess there's a huge difference between a troll and a level-headed poster. :lol:
pusong_palaban
Oct 6, 2009, 07:54 PM
aba may grammar police pala dito. *** nga siguro si grand_packer (aka bscotche). o sige na nga, pak you na!
kung meroon dapat kainisan si Kulya Danny (yung magaling na moderator ng PEX), yun yung mga katulad mo na mahilig mag off topic!
Masama lang loob mo dahil ayaw mo palitan si Pido. Ganyan naman mga tigerpakers eh, kala mo magagaling wala naman alam.
PIDO resign!
justin06
Oct 7, 2009, 02:37 PM
^ e ano bang alam mo? Ang tiger pack na sinasabihan mong walang alam ay marami ng naitulong sa ust athletes even sa recruits. Dont drag your ka istupiduhan dito. At kung hanggang ganyan lang naman ang kaya ng utak mo, huwag ka na lang magpost sa ust.net.ph at hindi na ako nagtataka kung bakit ayaw mo sa mga moderators dun. Kasi obviously hindi uubra ang mga one-liner posts mo dun na puro naman kaututan at katangahan. Subukan mo lang mag gaganyan sa gameface.ph at ust.net.ph ng dika pulbusin ng mga moderators dun.
legman11
Oct 7, 2009, 09:38 PM
guys info naman dun sa isang import ng ust.. thanks
pusong_palaban
Oct 8, 2009, 02:17 PM
^ e ano bang alam mo? Ang tiger pack na sinasabihan mong walang alam ay marami ng naitulong sa ust athletes even sa recruits. Dont drag your ka istupiduhan dito. At kung hanggang ganyan lang naman ang kaya ng utak mo, huwag ka na lang magpost sa ust.net.ph at hindi na ako nagtataka kung bakit ayaw mo sa mga moderators dun. Kasi obviously hindi uubra ang mga one-liner posts mo dun na puro naman kaututan at katangahan. Subukan mo lang mag gaganyan sa gameface.ph at ust.net.ph ng dika pulbusin ng mga moderators dun.
sige mauna ka, ikaw nakaisip eh. bobo ka talaga katulad ng mga pakers!!:lol:
ang kulit, magagalit sa iyo si grand_paker (aka bscotche) dahil hilig mo mag off topic! masyado mo naman pinapamukha kay kuya danny na wala sya kwenta moderator dahil pinapayagan nya mag post dito ang mga bugok na katulad mo!!!
PIDO resign!!!:grrr:
justin06
Oct 8, 2009, 03:10 PM
^nakkatuwa naman at mga moderators pa ang inaaway mo dun. E nuknukan ng katangahan ang post mo dun. Kung ako mod dun, matagal ka ng ban. Ang lakas ng apog na sabihing flame bait, ALAM MO BA NG MEANING nga flame baiting? Grade one ka ba? I suggest, tigilan mo na yang kabalbalan at kamangmangan mo dun. Nagmumuka ka lang dun *****, hindi ka naman pinapatulan ng mga mods, dahil hindi ka nila kalevel. hahaha
rudboy
Oct 8, 2009, 05:02 PM
on possible candidates for coach
how about Ed Cordero, who is Frankie Lim's top assistant sa SBC? Cordero is a UST alumnus di ba...
Grayback_316
Oct 8, 2009, 05:05 PM
Palitan nila muna yun responsible for recruitment. (scout)
Sobrang limited lang talented players.
That is why Coach Pido cant do much with them.
By not having a deep bench they cant really contend in the FINAL 4
cbie
Oct 14, 2009, 12:01 PM
Any updates from UST regarding the status of Pido? Is he in hot water na or bida pa rin?
DBecks2009
Oct 14, 2009, 12:55 PM
etong si pusong_palaban, kung sumagut-sagot akala mo napakagaling. hindi naman makaintindi ng logic sa mga post namin. Walang alam sabihin kundi Pido resign. :naughty:
Hindsight
Oct 14, 2009, 04:21 PM
SHARPEN THE SAW!
Why not give Coach Pido a temporary leave of absence for a year or two so he can analyze clearly what went wrong with his methods or even attend some coaching seminars for updates.
It will give him valuable time to look at the whole picture from a broader point of view since being in the center of "chaos" muddles our way of thinking. Then later on, make a comeback being wiser & more confident than before.;)
crusader1
Nov 6, 2009, 11:09 AM
Mukhang wala na si Coach Pido sa UST.
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/228072/2-uaap-coaches-fired
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideSports.htm?f=2009/november/5/sports4.isx&d=/2009/november/5
Krazie_bone
Nov 6, 2009, 01:06 PM
Heard also from the grapevine that former assistant coach Beaujing Acot has returned to the UST fold and will take over the head coaching reins from Pido.
legman11
Nov 6, 2009, 09:57 PM
sino na ba papalit?
clej
Nov 6, 2009, 10:15 PM
Jarencio remains Tigers coach, says UST official
11/06/2009 | 08:30 PM
University of Santo Tomas (UST) on Friday dismissed reports that Pido Jarencio has been terminated as coach of the Growling Tigers men's basketball team.
On Thursday, Manila Bulletin's online edition reported that Jarencio was “fired," a move reportedly done by UST in preparation for next year's UAAP season.
UST PE department assistant director Felicitas Francisco told GMANews.TV that as far as she's concerned Jarencio's contract was binding until January next year. “These are only rumors. There was no termination. Some people are just floating these rumors maybe because they wanted his position."
Francisco stressed that Jarencio will still coach the men's basketball team, which he led to the 2006 UAAP title against the heavily-favored Ateneo Blue Eagles.
“The only reason he will not stop coaching is if he opts to leave," she said, adding that the management is satisfied with Jarencio’s performance.
Jarencio, a former player of crowd darling Barangay Ginebra in the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA), donned the UST colors when the team was still known as the Glowing Goldies.
Jarencio was best remembered with his scoring rivalry with University of the East’s Allan Caidic in the 80s.
It was also under his supervision that Jervy Cruz and Dylan Ababou bagged the most valuable player (MVP) awards in 2006 and 2009, respectively.
GMANews.TV also reported Thursday that National University is allegedly wooing Jarencio to replace Manny Dandan as the Bulldogs coach next season.
NU athletic director Junel Baculi, however, said the report was only rumor and they don’t want to strain their relationship with UST.
“Wala pang definite (candidate). Tsismis lang yun (There’s still no definite candidate and Jarencio being wooed by NU is only a rumor). We are still deliberating with (NU chairman) Mr. Hans Sy as to who would be NU’s next coach."
NU, which is now being bankrolled by the SM Group of Companies, reportedly tendered an offer Jarencio could not refuse, a salary more than twice bigger than what he receives with UST.
Baculi said they would not rather reveal the name of the applicants. “We will keep that under raps in the mean time." – Aie Balagtas See, GMANews.TV
Ashlars
Nov 6, 2009, 10:54 PM
Jarencio remains Tigers coach, says UST official
11/06/2009 | 08:30 PM
University of Santo Tomas (UST) on Friday dismissed reports that Pido Jarencio has been terminated as coach of the Growling Tigers men's basketball team.
On Thursday, Manila Bulletin's online edition reported that Jarencio was “fired," a move reportedly done by UST in preparation for next year's UAAP season.
UST PE department assistant director Felicitas Francisco told GMANews.TV that as far as she's concerned Jarencio's contract was binding until January next year. “These are only rumors. There was no termination. Some people are just floating these rumors maybe because they wanted his position."
Francisco stressed that Jarencio will still coach the men's basketball team, which he led to the 2006 UAAP title against the heavily-favored Ateneo Blue Eagles.
“The only reason he will not stop coaching is if he opts to leave," she said, adding that the management is satisfied with Jarencio’s performance.
Jarencio, a former player of crowd darling Barangay Ginebra in the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA), donned the UST colors when the team was still known as the Glowing Goldies.
Jarencio was best remembered with his scoring rivalry with University of the East’s Allan Caidic in the 80s.
It was also under his supervision that Jervy Cruz and Dylan Ababou bagged the most valuable player (MVP) awards in 2006 and 2009, respectively.
GMANews.TV also reported Thursday that National University is allegedly wooing Jarencio to replace Manny Dandan as the Bulldogs coach next season.
NU athletic director Junel Baculi, however, said the report was only rumor and they don’t want to strain their relationship with UST.
“Wala pang definite (candidate). Tsismis lang yun (There’s still no definite candidate and Jarencio being wooed by NU is only a rumor). We are still deliberating with (NU chairman) Mr. Hans Sy as to who would be NU’s next coach."
NU, which is now being bankrolled by the SM Group of Companies, reportedly tendered an offer Jarencio could not refuse, a salary more than twice bigger than what he receives with UST.
Baculi said they would not rather reveal the name of the applicants. “We will keep that under raps in the mean time." – Aie Balagtas See, GMANews.TV
Talagang "raps" eh ano?
Naiimagine ko nagra-rap si Baculi. :rotflmao:
epalog
Nov 6, 2009, 11:35 PM
so hanggang january 2010 na lang 'yung contract ni pido? just 'cause he wasn't fired, does not mean that ust would not let him go by the end of his contract, 'di ba? although claiming that the offer was just a rumor, baculi did not deny nu's offer. he also did not reveal the names of the candidates.
Tigercub
Nov 7, 2009, 12:53 AM
ayan ang nagagawa ng tsismis lol
clawed_out
Nov 7, 2009, 02:54 AM
Boo on the news.
And more BOO for Francisco for putting malice on her statements.
Kung hindi kayang iangat ang UST MBT eh di hindi kaya. Ganoon ka simple. Kahit may kontrata pa.
Kung hindi pwedeng palitan eh di i-alter. Susme Francisco.
silver_engr_ust
Nov 7, 2009, 08:35 AM
Bagong TikTik
by James Ty III
Tinanggal na ng University of Santo Tomas ang head coach nitong si Pido Jarencio para sa susunod na UAAP season.
Nagdesisyon ang pamunuan ng UST na huwag na i-renew ang kontrata ni Jarencio pagkatapos na matalo ang Growling Tigers kontra back-to-back champions Ateneo Blue Eagles sa Final Four.
Apat na taon ang tinagal ni Jarencio bilang head coach ng UST at sa unang taon niya noong 2006 ay ginabayan niya ang Tigers sa titulo ng UAAP.
Ngunit mula noon ay hindi na inulit ni Jarencio ang kanyang ginawa sa UST at sinuwerte na nakapasok sa Final Four ang Tigers pagkatapos na maagang nasibak ang De La Salle University.
Sa ngayon ay nagsisilbi sa Jarencio bilang assistant coach ni Siot Tanquincen sa San Miguel Beer sa PBA.
Si Jarencio ang ikalawang UAAP coach na sinibak sa puwesto matapos na tanggalin ng National University si Manny Dandan.
Naunang nagbitiw si Franz Pumaren ng De La Salle upang asikasuhin niya ang kanyang pagtakbo sa Kongreso sa susunod na taon.
----------->awts....byebye coach Pido. Sana magaling ang ipalit...:bop:
silver_engr_ust
Nov 7, 2009, 08:38 AM
Jarencio sinibak ng UST
Bagong TikTik
November 7, 2009
by James Ty III
Tinanggal na ng University of Santo Tomas ang head coach nitong si Pido Jarencio para sa susunod na UAAP season.
Nagdesisyon ang pamunuan ng UST na huwag na i-renew ang kontrata ni Jarencio pagkatapos na matalo ang Growling Tigers kontra back-to-back champions Ateneo Blue Eagles sa Final Four.
Apat na taon ang tinagal ni Jarencio bilang head coach ng UST at sa unang taon niya noong 2006 ay ginabayan niya ang Tigers sa titulo ng UAAP.
Ngunit mula noon ay hindi na inulit ni Jarencio ang kanyang ginawa sa UST at sinuwerte na nakapasok sa Final Four ang Tigers pagkatapos na maagang nasibak ang De La Salle University.
Sa ngayon ay nagsisilbi sa Jarencio bilang assistant coach ni Siot Tanquincen sa San Miguel Beer sa PBA.
Si Jarencio ang ikalawang UAAP coach na sinibak sa puwesto matapos na tanggalin ng National University si Manny Dandan.
Naunang nagbitiw si Franz Pumaren ng De La Salle upang asikasuhin niya ang kanyang pagtakbo sa Kongreso sa susunod na taon.
gee.man
Nov 7, 2009, 04:38 PM
Jarencio's term expires; status as Tigers coach still uncertain
Updated- 12:45 p.m., Nov. 7- PIDO Jarencio’s fate is in limbo with his contract as Growling Tigers coach set to expire this January.
A GMANews.tv report has quoted Felicitas Francisco, assistant director of the Institute of Physical Education and Athletics, as saying that Jarencio's contract is still good up to January of next year, belying news that he was fired by the University.
“These are only rumors. There was no termination. Some people are just floating these rumors maybe because they wanted his position," Francisco said. “The only reason he will not stop coaching is if he opts to leave."
News of Jarencio leaving the Tigers' lair first appeared on the Business Mirror last November 4, with the newspaper saying Beaujing Acot, Rizal Technological University Blue Thunders coach, will replace Jarencio without naming sources.
Manila Bulletin also came up with a report on the issue last November 5, this time citing only "some reports" that said that Jarencio was "fired" by UST and will transfer to National University and replace coach Manny Dandan.
Jarencio said reports about UST kicking him out might spark interest from the Bulldogs bench to get him as coach.
“’Di ko pa din alam status ko, [although] nabasa ko din kasi na sinibak na ako ng UST,” Jarencio told the Varsitarian in a text message.
“‘Di ko pa alam eh. Naghihintay lang ako ng patawag nila (Tigers) kung may plan sila sa amin,” he added.
Jarencio led UST to its Cinderella run in 2006 when its men’s basketball team won the championship title during his rookie season. He also carried the team to the Final Four this year and in 2007.
Acot, Tigers defensive coach from 2006 to 2008, had denied news that he would be Tigers’ head coach next season. “Tsismis lang ‘yan, masaya na ako sa RTU,” Acot told the Varsitarian in a phone interview. Lester G. Babiera
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