Incase of 4 way tie < MIT,CSJL,JRU,SSCR>

[asinine_fish]

By JP ABCEDE
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As it is, a triple tie for first or a quadruple tie for second is still possible.

The three-way tie for first will happen if the Lions lose to the Knights on the last day of eliminations and Letran wins over Philippine Christian University tomorrow and Jose Rizal University beats Mapua, also tomorrow.

The three teams will end the eliminations with similar 10-4 cards while San Sebastian will take the No. 4 position.

The four-way tie for second will happen if San Beda beats Letran and the Knights lose to the Dolphins and the Cardinals beat the Heavy Bombers.

The Lions will get the No. 1 spot and the first twice-to-beat incentive while Letran, Jose Rizal, San Sebastian and Mapua will have similar 9-5 slates.

In case Letran wins its last two games, the Knights will forge a two-way tie for the No. 1 spot with the Red Lions with the possibility of a three-way logjam for third among San Sebastian, Jose Rizal and Mapua, if the Cardinals prevail over the Heavy Bombers.

As this developed, the NCAA Management Committee announced that it will meet after tomorrow’s game to determine how to break the ties in these scenarios.

[jpmalpass]

Abangan natin yung games bukas, sa mga magiging result ng games bukas, mas magiging maliwanag na ang Final 4 Standings... :D

[councilor]

The four-way tie for second will happen if San Beda beats Letran and the Knights lose to the Dolphins and the Cardinals beat the Heavy Bombers.
8 WINS lang ang letran sa ganitong scenario paanong tie

[pusongbaste]

^
Kaya nga. Mali nga yung article dahil kapag natalo ang knights sa Beda tie na sila agad ng Baste.

[asinine_fish]

oo nga ano?...siguro at least manalo Letran sa PCU.....basta maraming mangyayari sa last two games..bahala na sila !!.BAHALA NA MANCOM SUMAKIT ULO !!..maraming win-loss record scenarios na mangyayari...abangan natin..

[pusongbaste]

^ Diba kapag ganito qoutient system na agad ang ginagamit?

[jpmalpass]

Sobrang complicated naman kasi, kakaiba kasi tong scenario eh, kasi usually kapag naka 8 wins ang isang team, pasok na sa F4 eh. :D

[billbordzz]

tanong lang paano ise-settle *** mga ties??? quotient system or knock out games?

baka kasi maging sobrang komplikado nyan para sa mancom, magdecide na lang sila bigla na mag-forfeit ng games ng ibang teams., hahaha :P joke lang

[jpmalpass]

^- Sana nga knock out game nalang, para mas masaya! :D

[chant animo!]

I Agree With You....knockout Games Na Lang!!!

[7Strikeland]

parang nasabi kahapon ng mga commentator pag me tie..playoff game daw e..

[Clarkent]

pagmemeetingan daw yata bukas yung rules dyan

[billbordzz]

i see... tnx
medyo ndi pa pala sigurado ang mancomm regarding sa mga ties, hopefully knock out games para naman may chance *** teams na may mababang quotient

[try_0]

Mukhang gagalaw na naman ang kamay ng JRU sa ganitong scenario ah. . . . Ang tanong na diyan eh kung anong scenario ang favorable sa mga taga JRU. Right Mr. Supan?

[BLACK DECKER]

Mukhang gagalaw na naman ang kamay ng JRU sa ganitong scenario ah. . . . Ang tanong na diyan eh kung anong scenario ang favorable sa mga taga JRU. Right Mr. Supan?

Move on dude...

[ai#3]

ano naman kaya ang niluluto ng Mancom ngayon? Malamang papabor yan sa iba pwera sa isa.. Abangan.... :bop:

[kentski]

Mukhang gagalaw na naman ang kamay ng JRU sa ganitong scenario ah. . . . Ang tanong na diyan eh kung anong scenario ang favorable sa mga taga JRU. Right Mr. Supan?

hindi din mawala sa isip ko na pwede gawin lahat ng paraan para pasok ang JRU... pero i'm still hoping for a good decision by mancom regarding this tiesssss.... hindi *** sna saikakabuti ng isang skul, at lalung hindi naman sna gumawa ng desisyon na maghahatak pababa ng isang top team (w/c in this case, SBC)...

Nevertheless, Im still expecting the worst from mancom... para di ako ****** masaktan... hehehehe... *peace*

[jpmalpass]

Sana kasi do or die games nalang, kesa naman sa quotient system, kapag ganyan, baka ang makapasok pa sa Finals eh yung hindi deserving... :D

[nash_bedista]

mas mganda kung knockout para matagal matapos ang season 84, at sympre mauna matapos yung UAAP sa atin.. oha!

[Drahow ein Ente]

Tie-breaking situation:
SBC, JRU and LC tied for 1st with 10-4:
LC +14
SBC +11
JRU -17
Assuming JRU wins tomorrow, unless LC blows out SBC on Wednesday, SBC will be #1 and LC and JRU will play for #2.
(Or if MANCOM is really greedy, JRU will be #3 and SBC & LC will play for #1. w00t.)

JRU, LC, SSC and MIT tied for 2nd with 9-5:
SSC +3
LC +1
MIT -2 (.9940)
JRU -2 (.9937, it's so close, I'd have to round off to the nearest ten-thousandths :D)
If MIT wins tomorrow, it's certain that the tie for PD between MIT and JRU will be broken; they can even surpass SSC and LC if they win big 6 points or more, assuming they all get tied for 9-5.

Kung may tie sa #4 dadaanin sa knockout game so the quotients if tied for #4 is immaterial. SBC is sure to finish either #1 or #2 so they're not included.


(Check nyo na lang kung tama. I double checked it. Pero mahina ako sa math.)

[billbordzz]

^tama na yan... yoko rin magpredict ng mga possibilities ehh hehehhe

[Drahow ein Ente]

^tama na yan... yoko rin magpredict ng mga possibilities ehh hehehhe

Kung FIBA rules ang gagamitin, they'd most probably use the head-to-head rule. The thing is kung pang-ilang step ito. Kasi sa pinas mas uso ang points difference. or extra games. hahahah.

kung first step ang head-to-head ganito ang mangyayari:

tied for #1 with 10-4:
LC 2-2 (+14, sure to go up)
SBC 2-2 (+11, sure to go down)
JRU 2-2 (-17, won't change)
same set of games as stated above.

tied for #2 with 9-5
SSC 4-2
MIT 3-3 (1-1, +10)
LC 3-3 (1-1, -10)
JRU 2-4
honestly i don't think how the games would be allocated. is SSC automatic #2? if that's the case, should MIT be automatic #3 and let LC and JRU dogfight for the last berth? O round robin? Or SSC vs. JRU, then MIT vs. LC. Winners dispute #2, losers dispute #4. Parang mini tourney na. hahahah

[asinine_fish]

tied for #2 with 9-5
SSC 4-2
MIT 3-3 (1-1, +10)
LC 3-3 (1-1, -10)
JRU 2-4
honestly i don't think how the games would be allocated. is SSC automatic #2? if that's the case, should MIT be automatic #3 and let LC and JRU dogfight for the last berth?



If this is the case ..I think this is the possibility ^^^...SSC 2nd..MIT 3rd..sudden death playoff ang JRU and Letran for 4th and final spot....Because SSC and Mapua will have the higher quotient..

[asinine_fish]

By JP ABCEDE


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Today’s games will make the Final 4 scenario clearer as the results will determine if a triple tie for first, a quadruple tie for second, a triple tie for the No. 3 spot opr a triple tie for the No. 2 position would ensue.

The three-way tie for first will happen if the Knights beat the Dolphins today and idle San Beda College next week and the Heavy Bombers beat the Cardinals. This will give Letran, San Beda and Jose Rizal similar 10-4 cards with San Sebastian College getting the No. 4 spot with its 9-5 record.

A four-way tie for second will happen if the Knights win but lose to the red Lions and the cardinals beat the Heavy Bombers. The Lions will get the No. position while Letran, Jose Rizal, Mapua and San Sebastian will have similar 9-5 slates.

In case Letran wins its last two games and the Cardinals prevail today, the Knights will forge a two-way tie for the No. 1 spot with the Red Lions while Mapua will create a three-way logjam for third at 9-5.

Also, a three-way tie for second will ensue among San Sebastian, Jose Rizal and Mapua if Letran loses its last two games and the Cardinals beat the Heavy Bombers. San Beda will get the No. 1 position.

With all these complications possible, the NCAA Management Committee will meet after the games to determine how to break the ties.

As it is, no complications will ensue if the Heavy Bombers and the Knights win today and the Red Lions beat the Knights next week. This will give San Beda and Jose Rizal the two twice-to-beat incentive with the Red Lions at No. 1. Letran and San Sebastian will be the third and fourth teams, not necessarily in that order.

If Letran loses its two games and Jose Rizal beats Mapua, the Knights and the Cardinals will play a knockout match for the No. 4 position.

The Final 4 will have the No. 1 team facing the No. 4 squad in a best-of- three series with the No. 1 team needing only a victory to advance to the finals. The second and third teams will clash in a separate best-of-three series with the No. 2 squad needing to beat the third team only once to barge into the finals.

[jpmalpass]

Kung nanalo sana ang Baste sa Beda, alam na sana kung sino ang number 1&2. Hehe! Pero ***** mas complicated, mas exciting tuloy kung anung kakalabasan. Hehe! :D

[aryzk]

Its A Must Win For The Jru Bombers I Really Hope We Would Prevail

[try_0]

hindi din mawala sa isip ko na pwede gawin lahat ng paraan para pasok ang JRU... pero i'm still hoping for a good decision by mancom regarding this tiesssss.... hindi *** sna saikakabuti ng isang skul, at lalung hindi naman sna gumawa ng desisyon na maghahatak pababa ng isang top team (w/c in this case, SBC)...

Nevertheless, Im still expecting the worst from mancom... para di ako ****** masaktan... hehehehe... *peace*

Right on dude kaya nga yun din yung nasa isip ko. Para di na mas masakit para sa mga masasagasaan.

[dindo23]

sana makapasok mapua!

[redcardinal]

Go Mapua!!!

[jpmalpass]

Gusto ko sanang makapasok sa Final 4:

SBC
JRU
SSC-R
MIT...

In order yan. :)

[frankeesl]

ganda ng season ngyn ah.. sana manalo letran!!

[chronobreak18]

At the MIT-JRU coverage a while ago, i think i heard Butch Maniego talk about how a looming quadruple tie at second place will be broken in case Letran loses to San Beda on Wednesday. As we all know by now, such occurence will result to CSJL, JRU, SSC-R and MIT being tied with 9 wins and 5 losses each. According to him, the team with the highest quotient will duke it out with the team with the lowest quotient, while the remaining two teams will slug it out with each other. the winners of the two matches will then face each other for the right to gain the twice-to-beat advantage (second place in the team standings) while the losing teams will fight for the last play-off berth. this set-up is intiguing and exciting as it will give the 4 teams fighting and equal chances of getting the twice-to-beat advantage without using the quotient method. you just have to prove your worth by being undefeated in the two play-off games and the 2nd place in the standing will be yours. what do you think?

[Clarkent]

At the MIT-JRU coverage a while ago, i think i heard Butch Maniego talk about how a looming quadruple tie at second place will be broken in case Letran loses to San Beda on Wednesday. As we all know by now, such occurence will result to CSJL, JRU, SSC-R and MIT being tied with 9 wins and 5 losses each. According to him, the team with the highest quotient will duke it out with the team with the lowest quotient, while the remaining two teams will slug it out with each other. the winners of the two matches will then face each other for the right to gain the twice-to-beat advantage (second place in the team standings) while the losing teams will fight for the last play-off berth. this set-up is intiguing and exciting as it will give the 4 teams fighting and equal chances of getting the twice-to-beat advantage without using the quotient method. you just have to prove your worth by being undefeated in the two play-off games and the 2nd place in the standing will be yours. what do you think?

ang labo naman nun..

parang mini-play-off pa.. magulo na.. pinapagulo pa nila lalo.. *peace*

[billbordzz]

^ pero medyo tama lang din kesa naman tanggalin na lang bigla ang may mababang quotient... at least nabigyan ng chance *** mga teams na lumaban para sa mga slots

[Clarkent]

^yeah.. hindi naman siguro automatic na tanggalin..

in a way, paghirapan nung may lower quotient ang pag qualify.. say, rubber match for #3 vs #4.. or something like that..

[jpmalpass]

At the MIT-JRU coverage a while ago, i think i heard Butch Maniego talk about how a looming quadruple tie at second place will be broken in case Letran loses to San Beda on Wednesday. As we all know by now, such occurence will result to CSJL, JRU, SSC-R and MIT being tied with 9 wins and 5 losses each. According to him, the team with the highest quotient will duke it out with the team with the lowest quotient, while the remaining two teams will slug it out with each other. the winners of the two matches will then face each other for the right to gain the twice-to-beat advantage (second place in the team standings) while the losing teams will fight for the last play-off berth. this set-up is intiguing and exciting as it will give the 4 teams fighting and equal chances of getting the twice-to-beat advantage without using the quotient method. you just have to prove your worth by being undefeated in the two play-off games and the 2nd place in the standing will be yours. what do you think?

Ganito ang mangyayari kapag natalo ang Letran :

- San Beda sigurado nang pasok sa number 1.

- Mapua VS Baste (Para sa 2nd place and twice to beat)

- JRU VS Letran (Para sa 4th spot)

*okay*



BRAVO BASTE!!! *okay* *okay* *okay*

[bRaced]

whatever the decision will be, i hope everything would turn out cleanly... yung tipong walang halong daya at pulitika so as we could preserve the league's dignity & pride. and i hope we could still have a twice-to-beat advantage.

GO BASTE! *okay*

[Drahow ein Ente]

iyan yung isa kong scenarios. yung mini-tournament.


ang disadvantage lang yan baka lumamig ang SBC. Take a look at what happened to UE last year. :glee:

[pgma]

mancom should had a clear cut rule concerning this situation prior the season started. kung ngayon sila gagawa ng rule, syempre bias na yan. one reason teams play hard is for the quotient.

[Big Ticket]

ang labo naman nun..

parang mini-play-off pa.. magulo na.. pinapagulo pa nila lalo.. *peace*

di mo lang naintindihan....pinaka-fair yan for all 4 teams involved...ano ba gusto mo mangyari? botohan na lang?

[Clarkent]

di mo lang naintindihan....pinaka-fair yan for all 4 teams involved...ano ba gusto mo mangyari? botohan na lang?

Fair sa lahat? I dont think so..

Try to Analyze kasi.. Parang unfair yan sa Baste.. Baste won twice sa JRU..

Baste 4-2 (Win vs JRU, MIT, CSJL, JRU - Loss vs MIT, CSJL)
Mapua 3-3 (+10)
Letran 3-3 (-10)
JRU 2-4

Huh? Sino nagsabing botohan??!

What i am saying is dapat, medyo nasa advantage ang Baste..

im not saying rin na dapat automatic berth ang Baste nor tanggalin agad ang JRU..

FIBA Rules (http://www.fiba.com/downloads/Rules/2008/OfficialBasketballRules2008.pdf).. (i dunno if they will apply this)


Part D - Classification of Teams.

D.1.1 If there are two teams in the classification with equal points, the result(s) of the game(s) between the two teams involved will be used to determine the placings.

D.1.2 If the points and the goal average in the games between the two teams are still thesame, the classification will be determined by the goal average of all the games played in the group by each team.

D.1.3 If more than two teams are equal in the placing, a second classification will be established, taking into account only the results of the games between the teams that are tied.

D.1.4 If there are still teams tied after the second classification, then goal average will be used to determine the placing, taking into account only the results of the games between the teams still tied.

D.1.5 If there are still teams tied, the placing will be determined using the goal average from the results of all their games played in the group.

D.1.6 If, at any stage, using the above criteria, a multiple team tie is reduced to a tie involving only two teams, the procedure in D.1.1 and D.1.2 above will be applied.

D.1.7 If, at any stage, it is reduced to a tie still involving more than two teams, the procedure, beginning with D.1.3 above, is repeated.

D.1.8 Goal average will always be calculated by division.


1.3 should be applied to all four teams
1.4 should be applied for MIT-CSJL tie

Just my two cents.

[try_0]

Pag natalo San Beda mas "mapapadali" ang seeding.

[Drahow ein Ente]

pinakafair sa lahat wala nang playoffs kung pare-parehas ang strength of schedule. like the european soccer leagues.

pwera na lang kung pang-4th na tiebreaker tie pa rin. :glee:

[Big Ticket]

eh kung tinalo sana ng baste ang perpetual nun opening, wala sana silang problema ngayon...

[jpmalpass]

^- Kapag natalo ang Letran next week? Anu po bang magiging standings nung apat na team sa quotient?

[Drahow ein Ente]

^- Kapag natalo ang Letran next week? Anu po bang magiging standings nung apat na team sa quotient?

walang pagbabago sa quotient.

kung results against lahat ng teams, ito ang quotient:
LC +55 (will go down)
MIT +1
SSC +63
JRU +52

[jpmalpass]

^- Anu po yun? Anung magiging standings? Sorry hindi ko talaga maiintindihan. Sinong team ba sa apat ang may pinakamataas na quotient? Akala ko ba...

1. Mapua
2. Baste
3. JRU
4. Letran?

- In order yan. :D

[Drahow ein Ente]

Yung latest post ko, results of all of the games played, even those w/c are tied with the 4 teams.

Yung mas maliliit na quotients, games between tied teams lang yun. I doubt the NCAA would go to all of the games played statistic kasi suitable na yung games between the tied teams. since natapos na ang games ng four teams between each other, hindi magbabago yung mga yun

[Clarkent]

^ i doubt too kung gawing basis yung quotient against the other 7 teams.. Mas suitable yung against 4 teams lang..

Ganito yung breakdown kung against tied teams lang..

Team | Points For | Points Against | PF-PA
Mapua | 401 | 392 | +9
SSCR | 396 | 393 | +3
CSJL | 418 | 417 | +1
JRU | 375 | 388 | -13

So either win-loss ang gamitin or quotient.. MIT - SSC pa rin ang nasa upper half, then JRU - CSJL sa lower half.

So CSJL really has to win on Wednesday..

[jpmalpass]

Yung latest post ko, results of all of the games played, even those w/c are tied with the 4 teams.

Yung mas maliliit na quotients, games between tied teams lang yun. I doubt the NCAA would go to all of the games played statistic kasi suitable na yung games between the tied teams. since natapos na ang games ng four teams between each other, hindi magbabago yung mga yun

So kung ganun? Bali magiging number 1 ang Baste dun sa apat na teams? :eek:

[pusongbaste]

^ i doubt too kung gawing basis yung quotient against the other 7 teams.. Mas suitable yung against 4 teams lang..

Ganito yung breakdown kung against tied teams lang..

Team | Points For | Points Against | PF-PA
Mapua | 401 | 392 | +9
SSCR | 396 | 393 | +3
CSJL | 418 | 417 | +1
JRU | 375 | 388 | -13

So either win-loss ang gamitin or quotient.. MIT - SSC pa rin ang nasa upper half, then JRU - CSJL sa lower half.

So CSJL really has to win on Wednesday..

Dapat kapag ganyan ang standings tanggalin yung may pinakalow na qoutient. And then the 2nd lowest qoutient will be the no.4. And then the highest and 2nd highest will play for the twice to beat. Para fair. Kasi kung ang gagawin 1 vs 4, 2 vs. 3, parang unfair dun sa no. 1. Buti sana kung twice to beat yun no. 1. Yun fair pa yun. Pero syempre di pwedeng twice to beat dahil hanggat maaari gusto nilang konti yung knockout games.

[jpmalpass]

Sana maka twice to beat tayo! As much as possible, ayoko makalaban ang SBC sa semis, mahihirapan tayo kapag ganun. :D

[try_0]

The MANCOM had decided to have all the teams tied, in case of a four way tie, to do a knock out game between teams the case is 2 vs 5 and 3 vs 4 based on their quotient.

Mukhang self-serving na rule na naman ito, alam naman natin na meron na dapat team na eliminated kung mag four way tie.

[pusongbaste]

^
That's very unfair sa no. 2!

[Clarkent]

The decision was based on FIBA Rules for Team Classification..

But, i think na-overlook nila yung basics.. Gamitin yung win-loss rule..
Na nasa FIBA Rules din naman (i posted earlier)

[pusongbaste]

The MANCOM had decided to have all the teams tied, in case of a four way tie, to do a knock out game between teams the case is 2 vs 5 and 3 vs 4 based on their quotient.

Mukhang self-serving na rule na naman ito, alam naman natin na meron na dapat team na eliminated kung mag four way tie.

Isipin mo pagka ganyan ang ginawa ng mancom, yung may lowest qoutient pa ang magkakaron ng chance sa twice to beat.

Lupit talaga mamulitika! Ano bang ginagawa ng ibang school representatives? Nagiisip ba sila? Hay!

[kentski]

The MANCOM had decided to have all the teams tied, in case of a four way tie, to do a knock out game between teams the case is 2 vs 5 and 3 vs 4 based on their quotient.

Mukhang self-serving na rule na naman ito, alam naman natin na meron na dapat team na eliminated kung mag four way tie.

san mo nabalitaan? source? gusto ko din mabasa... hehehee...

[try_0]

here it is. . . from inboundpass.com

Mapua forges three-way tie for third, defeats JRU
by Josef Ramos


FOR THE UMPTEENTH time, the Mapua Cardinals refused to roll over. Finally, they’ve secured a playoff berth for a spot in the Final Four.

The Cardinals started the game strong to derail the Jose Rizal University Heavy Bombers, 72-61, to create a three-way tie for the last Final Four spot in the 84th NCAA men’s basketball tournament last September 5, 2008, at the Pasay Astrodome.

After seizing the edge early in the game, the Cardinals slowed down the tempo to join their victims and the San Sebastian Stags in a three-way tie with 9-5 records.

“Luckily, it is working in our favor, this old-school, slow-down type of basketball we have been doing lately,” said Cardinals coach Leo Isaac. “We just want to preserve the advantage for good.”

Allan Mangahas topscored Mapua with 22 points, including 12 in the final quarter, to go along with five rebounds, six assists and four steals, while Kelvin dela Peña amassed 18 points, nine assists and nine boards.

“I was already hurt in the fourth quarter due to the game’s physicality. But that’s okay in someway,” said Mangahas, who shot 4-of-6 from beyond the arc. “They really wanted to defeat us but we’re not ready for a vacation.”

Neil Pascual added 12 points and Jonathan Banal tallied 11 for this year’s host, who also extended their winning run to four games.

The NCAA Management Committee, meanwhile, declared that teams with the same records will knock each other out through a one-off playoff game, while the quotient system will only be employed to determine seedings.
Defending champion San Beda College is on top with a 10-3 mark, while Letran College is in second with a 9-4 slate. Both teams lock horns on Wednesday.

After a close first half, the Cardinals stepped on the gas early in the third quarter, with Banal and dela Peña scoring a couple of baskets to extend their squad’s lead to eight, 54-46, at the end of 30 minutes of play.

Mapua then shut down JRU in the last quarter, with dela Peña putting the clamps on Heavy Bombers playmaker Marc Cagoco. JRU moved to within six, though, at 56-62 when forward Marvin Hayes scored on an undergoal stab with 3:21 to go.

But Mangahas fired a clutch trey that stretched Mapua’s spread to 65-56 with 2:05 left.

The Cardinals limited the production of both Cagoco and JR Sena, who combined for only nine points. Hayes paced JRU with a season-high 19 markers, while Maui Pradas fired in 11.

The scores:

Mapua 72 – Mangahas 22, dela Peña 18, N. Pascual 12, Banal 11, Mazo 5, J. Pascual 2, Soriano 2, Sarangay 0.

JRU 61 – Hayes 19, Pradas 11, Nocom 9, Wilson 6, Sena 6, Njei 5, Cagoco 3, Agas 2, Bulangis 0.

Quarter scores: 18-16; 35-31; 54-46; 72-61

[Clarkent]

Meron sa Sports Section ng People's Tonight..

..
The league will the break the tie and determine the semifinalists under the FIBA classification points system, which pits the second-ranked team against the fifth seeded team and the third seeded ball club against the fourth seeded squad in a pair of playoff matches.

Winners of both matches will then go through another do-or-die game to determine the team that will claim the twice-to-beat edge, with the losers contesting the last semifinal berth.

[redboy]

The mancom has been cohesive insofar as conspiring to pull San Beda down. Its members were all smiles when SBC losses its game versus Benilde, Mapua and JRU.

However, by a sudden twist of fate, San Sebastian, JRU and Mapua found themselves entangled in a three (3) way tie after the smoke has cleared. If Letran losses to San Beda on Wednesday, the former will enter the fray--- A FOUR (4) WAY TIE!

Will the "magkakabarkada" mancom representatives of the four schools be that "friendly" to one another or they will start snapping at each other?

Ironic?

I think "karma" would be more appropriate.

[Clarkent]

The mancom has been cohesive insofar as conspiring to pull San Beda down. Its members were all smiles when SBC losses its game versus Benilde, Mapua and JRU.

However, by a sudden twist of fate, San Sebastian, JRU and Mapua found themselves entangled in a three (3) way tie after the smoke has cleared. If Letran losses to San Beda on Wednesday, the former will enter the fray--- A FOUR (4) WAY TIE!

Will the "magkakabarkada" mancom representatives of the four schools be that "friendly" to one another or they will start snapping at each other?

Ironic?

I think "karma" would be more appropriate.


uhmm..

:hmm:

Karma? Barkada? MANCOM?

Talagang naisingit yang topic na yan ha.. *okay*
All-BOLD pa!

Baka mamaya idamay na rin ang Benilde dito... :rolleyes:

Stick lang tayo sa topic, please.

:lol:

[Tony Montana]

boss totoo bang ganito mangyayari? di ba ganito # 2 vs. # 3 & # 4 vs. # 5? kasi unfair kung ganyan mababalewala yung quotient system kasi knockout game. kasi mas may chance pa sa twice to beat yung # 5 kasi sa #3 & # 4 teams.

The MANCOM had decided to have all the teams tied, in case of a four way tie, to do a knock out game between teams the case is 2 vs 5 and 3 vs 4 based on their quotient.

[Clarkent]

#2 vs #5
#3 vs #4


*** mananalo daw sa dalawang laban na yan ang maglalaban for twice to beat..

then yung mga matatalo.. may do-or-die for last slot..

[jpmalpass]

Para sakin, mas maganda kung ganyan, kasi mas malalaman natin kung sino talaga ang malakas na team, kasi walang kwenta naman yung quotient eh, wala na yun, hindi na importante yun, number lang yun eh, mas maganda kung ganyan, mas madedetermine natin kung sino ang talang karapatdapat sa championship match sa ganyang paraan. :D

[redboy]

uhmm..

:hmm:

Karma? Barkada? MANCOM?

Talagang naisingit yang topic na yan ha.. *okay*
All-BOLD pa!

Baka mamaya idamay na rin ang Benilde dito... :rolleyes:

Stick lang tayo sa topic, please.

:lol:

My post was germane to the topic.

I'm just keeping a wide grin on how things turned out. Having the last laugh is really, should I say........satisfying.

Cheer up!

[Clarkent]

^dont mind me..

aba, may last laugh pang nalalaman.. :lol:

easy lang boy!

alright, back to our topic..

in case manalo ang Letran.. may inannounce ba na procedure for tie breaker?

[dethgawd]

The mancom has been cohesive insofar as conspiring to pull San Beda down. Its members were all smiles when SBC losses its game versus Benilde, Mapua and JRU.

However, by a sudden twist of fate, San Sebastian, JRU and Mapua found themselves entangled in a three (3) way tie after the smoke has cleared. If Letran losses to San Beda on Wednesday, the former will enter the fray--- A FOUR (4) WAY TIE!

Will the "magkakabarkada" mancom representatives of the four schools be that "friendly" to one another or they will start snapping at each other?

Ironic?

I think "karma" would be more appropriate.



parang may conspiracy ah

[69galaxy]

series of KO games pala pag nanalo ang red lions. i hope those games finish in a week. the earlier the better for SBC. mahirap na kalawangin.

[red_saint09]

basta mas gusto ko makapasok baste kesa sa jru....
it would be:
san beda
letran
mapua
san sebastian

[bombsquad]

#2 vs #5
#3 vs #4


*** mananalo daw sa dalawang laban na yan ang maglalaban for twice to beat..

then yung mga matatalo.. may do-or-die for last slot..

SURE YOU ABOUT THIS??? SINO SOURCE MO SABIHIN MO NAMAN

[asinine_fish]

SURE YOU ABOUT THIS??? SINO SOURCE MO SABIHIN MO NAMAN

eto source..sbi ng MANCOM :

The NCAA Management Committee, meanwhile, declared that teams with the same records will knock each other out through a one-off playoff game, while the quotient system will only be employed to determine seedings.


..for example the quotient has determined the seedings:
(if Letran loses on Wednesday, worst case scenario).and San Beda drew a bye, will wait for the final 4 seedings..

sample seedings lang on knockout playoff for 2nd to 4th spot:( likely )

2) SSC
3) MAPUA
4) JRU
5) LETRAN

knockout playoff :
#2 vs # 5
#3 vs # 4

****...THE WINNERSwill face each other for 2nd spot and twice to beat advantage...and the loser assured themselves of 3rd spot.

****while THE LOSERS will knockout each other out for the last 4th spot....losing team..hasta la bye bye.( out )

yan ang ibig sabihin ng MANCOM...siguro malinaw na ng konti ito..
correct me if I'm wrong..

[jpmalpass]

Guys! This is it! Malinaw na kung anung mangyayari incase of a 4 way tie!

Sports
Top 5 brace for berth in NC Final 4
By Joey Villar
Sunday, September 7, 2008


The 84th NCAA basketball tournament is headed for a wild and wooly finish.

Whatever happens in the San Beda-Letran showdown on Wednesday, at least three playoff games are needed to settle seedings in the Final Four.

A San Beda victory would mean the Lions automatically gain top seeding and the Knights are relegated into a four-way tie at second place with the Jose Rizal Bombers, San Sebastian Stags and Mapua Cardinals – all with 9-5 win-loss records.

To break the tie, the team with the highest quotient takes on the squad with the worst while No. 2 and No. 3 clash the first of two classification playoffs.

The winners battle for the No. 2 seeding while the losers slug it out in a do-or-die battle for the No. 4 seeding in the semifinals.
A Letran victory, on the other hand, would force a tie between the Knights and the Lions at No. 1 and a three-way logjam among the Bombers, the Stags and the Cardinals at No. 3.

In this scenario, both Letran and San Beda would be assured of the twice-to-beat incentive but they would still settle the No. 1 spot in a playoff.

The last two spots would be contested by San Sebastian, Jose Rizal and Mapua in a series of playoffs.



http://philstar.com/index.php?Sports&p=49&type=2&sec=30&aid=20080906152

[try_0]

SURE YOU ABOUT THIS??? SINO SOURCE MO SABIHIN MO NAMAN


Parang di ka makapaniwala na naging alanganin ang JRU ah. . . . .

MANCOM po ang source namin base sa article ng isang manunulat na sinulat ang pahayag ng MANCOM.

Now everybody feels being treated without fairness.:rotflmao:

Salamat sa MAPUA and SAN SEBASTIAN! Both deserves a spot in the F4.

I wish. . . .

1. SBC
2. SSC
3. MIT
4. CSJL

*okay**okay**okay**okay**okay*

[jpmalpass]

NCAA: Fiba rule to decide ‘Final 5’
By Cedelf P. Tupas
Philippine Daily Inquirer

MANILA, Philippines—Might as well call it the Final Five.

The NCAA will use the Fiba classification point system to settle one of the tightest Final Four races in league history.

San Beda and Letran could end up tied for the No. 1 slot but there is also the possibility of having four teams ending up deadlocked for the last three slots with similar 9-5 records.

The Lions could wrap up the top spot and the twice-to-beat incentive that goes with it if they win on Wednesday against the Knights, who could drop into a four-way tie with San Sebastian, Mapua and Jose Rizal.

In this case, San Sebastian will play Jose Rizal and Mapua will battle Letran with the winners playing off for the No. 2 seed and the twice-to-beat-edge and the loser automatically clinching the third seed.

The losing teams will also play in another knockout match to determine the No. 4 team.

If the Knights prevail, they will play San Beda again in a playoff for the top spot, leaving SSC, Mapua and JRU to fight for the two remaining spots.

In case of a three-way tie at 9-5, Mapua and JRU will square off in a do-or-die match with the winner facing San Sebastian for the No. 3 seed.



- Malinaw na ang lahat. *okay*

[ennaehj]

Ang ganda talaga ng season na ito, very unpredictable.. :)

[jpmalpass]

So, mali pala ang mga computation sa quotient ng mga nagpost dito... Kung susuriin natin mabuti ang article nayan, lalabas na ang lamang sa quotient ay.

1. SSC-R
2. MIT
3. CSJL
4. JRU

- Dehado pala ang JRU sa quotient. :)

[tophe_17]

jpmalpass: Gulo mo mag-post.
Your posts are misleading and inconsistent. Sabi mo sa isang thread:


http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2090/jpmalpssqi7.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2090/jpmalpssqi7.c048e1a538.jpg

LINK: http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361419

Dali, edit mo ang post mo. :glee:


I would suggest you check Clarkent's posts at the Mapua thread -- malinaw at hindi magulo. :p

LINK: http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305127&page=108

[Drahow ein Ente]

Kung FIBA rules ang gagamitin, they'd most probably use the head-to-head rule. The thing is kung pang-ilang step ito. Kasi sa pinas mas uso ang points difference. or extra games. hahahah.

kung first step ang head-to-head ganito ang mangyayari:

tied for #1 with 10-4:
LC 2-2 (+14, sure to go up)
SBC 2-2 (+11, sure to go down)
JRU 2-2 (-17, won't change)
same set of games as stated above.

tied for #2 with 9-5
SSC 4-2
MIT 3-3 (1-1, +10)
LC 3-3 (1-1, -10)
JRU 2-4
honestly i don't think how the games would be allocated. is SSC automatic #2? if that's the case, should MIT be automatic #3 and let LC and JRU dogfight for the last berth? O round robin? Or SSC vs. JRU, then MIT vs. LC. Winners dispute #2, losers dispute #4. Parang mini tourney na. hahahah

So, mali pala ang mga computation sa quotient ng mga nagpost dito... Kung susuriin natin mabuti ang article nayan, lalabas na ang lamang sa quotient ay.

1. SSC-R
2. MIT
3. CSJL
4. JRU

- Dehado pala ang JRU sa quotient. :)

First time ginamit ng kahit anong liga sa Pinas ang FIBA way to break ties. hahah

[jpmalpass]

jpmalpass: Gulo mo mag-post.
Your posts are misleading and inconsistent. Sabi mo sa isang thread:


http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2090/jpmalpssqi7.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2090/jpmalpssqi7.c048e1a538.jpg

LINK: http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361419

Dali, edit mo ang post mo. :glee:


I would suggest you check Clarkent's posts at the Mapua thread -- malinaw at hindi magulo. :p

LINK: http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305127&page=108



Actually, wala akong kelangan baguhin dahil yung post ko dyan ay base dun sa mga unang post dito, kaya wala akong kasalanan dun dahil yun ay ayon sa mga sinasabi nilang mali naman pala. Yung huli kong pinost ay ayon sa MANCOM na, kaya yan nalang ang tignan nila, eh ngayon kung hindi mo pa naintindihan, wala nakong magagawa dyan. :bop: :rotflmao: :lol: Tsaka hindi naman ako pumupunta sa Mapua thread at wala akong balak. Tignan mo yung mga nauna nyang post dito.

[tophe_17]

^ Napapaniwala ka pala sa speculations. :glee:

[jpmalpass]

^- Wooo, kunwari kapa, eh ikaw din naman naniwala dyan sa mga yan nung wala pang lumalabas na mga announcement galing sa MANCOM. :lol: Dedeny payan... :lol:

[tophe_17]

^- Wooo, kunwari kapa, eh ikaw din naman naniwala dyan sa mga yan nung wala pang lumalabas na mga announcement galing sa MANCOM. Dedeny payan...

:rotflmao:

Talaga?
May ebidensya ka? :glee:

Ako meron, ikaw wala. :p :p :p

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2090/jpmalpssqi7.jpg

Edit mo na yung post mo. Baka may katulad mo na maniwala rin sa sinasabi mo dun. :bop:

[jpmalpass]

:D Ok sabi mo eh. Hahaha! OO nalang. Anyway, ayokong makipag argue. Haha! Tsaka hindi ko na ieedit, nag post nako ng bagong article dun galing gameface.ph. :D Baka maisara pa tong thread na to, nakakahiya naman kay TS. Haha! Tsaka alam ko kung bakit ganyan ka sakin eh. Haha! Nakakatawa. :lol: Tsaka salamat nalang, nagabala kapa sa pag eedit ng screenshot. :rotflmao: Talaga naman. :p Parang bata. Kung dyan ka masaya, sige lang. Makikita nalang natin... :p

- Nag abala pang magpost ng screenshot, anu ba naman yun? Nonsense! :bop:

[Clarkent]

First time ginamit ng kahit anong liga sa Pinas ang FIBA way to break ties. hahah

Nung 2001.. MIT & SSCR tied at 9-5 for 2nd place..
(JRU #1, CSB #4)

Ang nangyari.. Ang unang ginawang basis is win-loss.. pero pareho sila 1-1

Then second basis is quotient, tied pa rin. (MIT won by 10 pts vs SSCR sa first round, then SSCR won also by 10 pts vs MIT sa second round, how ironic!)

Ang naging final basis is yung Points For.. Mas mataas yung nakuhang Total Points for whole season ng SSC than MIT kaya nakuha ng SSCR ang twice-to-beat..

Walang rubber match na naganap.. :(

NCAA Rules lang yata ang ginamit nung time na yun.

[Drahow ein Ente]

Nung 2001.. MIT & SSCR tied at 9-5 for 2nd place..
(JRU #1, CSB #4)

Ang nangyari.. Ang unang ginawang basis is win-loss.. pero pareho sila 1-1

Then second basis is quotient, tied pa rin. (MIT won by 10 pts vs SSCR sa first round, then SSCR won also by 10 pts vs MIT sa second round, how ironic!)

Ang naging final basis is yung Points For.. Mas mataas yung nakuhang Total Points for whole season ng SSC than MIT kaya nakuha ng SSCR ang twice-to-beat..

Walang rubber match na naganap.. :(

NCAA Rules lang yata ang ginamit nung time na yun.

How was the tie broken in 2004? 3 teams were 7-7 and tied for 4th. SBC and MIT had the superior quotients then so maybe it also followed their head to head records are the same.

Also, the FIBA way to break ties is:
1. Head to head.
2. Goal average on the results of games between the tied teams
3. Goal average on the results of all games between the tied teams

Hindi uso yung points difference (PF-PD, aka quotient, teka muna, bakit nga ba quotient ang tawag eh subtraction ang operation? :lol:) sa kanila. Goal average ang gamit, PF/PD. Pero parehas lang ang kalalabasan as long as hindi equal ang PD.

[Clarkent]

Actually, di talaga quotient ang ginamit to determine the seeding kundi "points system.. " wherein they considered yung 2 wins ng SSCR vs JRU kaya sila number 1..

So medyo ang mali ginamit na term sa ibang article..

--

The following contains the scenarios that the NCAA will map out in case of a three-way tie or a four-way tie for second.

The NCAA is using FIBA classification point system. (not quotient)

In case of a three-way tie at 9-5:
W L P
No.3 SSC-R 3 1 7
No. 4 MIT 2 2 6
No. 5 JRU 1 3 5

No. 4 will play No. 5 in KO match, winner will face No. 3 for seeding in the Final Four, No. 3 or No. 4 while loser automatically out.

Note: This scenario is only applicable if Letran wins against SBC on Wednesday. In that case, both teams will have 10-4 cards and assured of twice-to-beat, but will have to play in a playoff to determine which team takes No. 1 and No. 2 spots.

In case of four-way tie at 9-5:
W L P
No.2 SSC-R 4 2 10
No. 3 MIT 3 3 9
No. 4 Letran 3 3 9
No. 5 JRU 2 4 8

Note: This scenario is only applicable if SBC beats Letran on Wednesday. In that case, SBC gets the top seeding in the Final Four and the first twice-to-beat incentive.

Note: LC and MIT - Both teams are tied with 9 points each, but it doesn't matter which team gets No. 3 or No. 4 in the KO seeding because they will face-off whatever their quotient is.

No. 2 will play No. 5 and No. 3 will play No. 4. Winners of both games will play in another KO match to determine which team gets No. 2 seeding in the Final Four and the twice-to-beat incentive. Losing team gets No. 3. Losing teams in the first two KO matches will also play in another KO match to determine No. 4.

[Drahow ein Ente]

Wala ring namang kwenta yung points system kuno ng FIBA kasi parang 2(wins) + losses = points. Di gaya sa soccer na mas complicated (3 for a win, 1 for a draw, 0 for a loss)

Kung LC/SBC 10-4, other 3 9-5, dapat:
wala nang 1st seed playoff bet. LC and SBC, and
wala nang playoff pa ang SSC. #3 na dapat sila.

Kung SBC 11-3, other 4 9-5, dapat:
SSC vs. MIT for #2 (de facto best of 3)
JRU vs. LC for #4
wala nang mini-tournament. anong kalokohan yan, tiba-tiba ba ang MANCOM sa gate receipts? :lol:

[Clarkent]

hehehe.. wala din naman kasi draw sa basketball..

ano kaya, wala na lang OT.. meron na lang sana draw! :D

[Clarkent]

How was the tie broken in 2004? 3 teams were 7-7 and tied for 4th. SBC and MIT had the superior quotients then so maybe it also followed their head to head records are the same.
.

Both teams are 1-1 against each other.. and tied for 4th place.

Sa situations like this..

di talaga basta basta pwedeng tanggalin ang isang team because of quotient or points system..

Rubber Match na agad.

[Drahow ein Ente]

^ ah OK. kasi pwede ring for #4, one team +2, the other two -1 each. Sinong kakalabanin ni +2? Or wala na kasi laglag na ang dalawang -1?

hehehe.. wala din naman kasi draw sa basketball..

ano kaya, wala na lang OT.. meron na lang sana draw! :D

useful lang yang FIBA points kuno kung may nag-walkout na team. gaya noong china sa kakatapos pa lang na fiba asia tourney, dinaig sila ng syria sa tiebreakers kahit walang napanalong isang laro on court ang syria. hahah


----
Kaya dapat alisin na yang mini-tourney na yan kung sakali. Make the elimination round games count. SSC and MIT for #2 and LC and JRU for #4 kung sakali. At kung sakali din, wala nang LC-SBC for #1. walang kwenta. hahaha

Baka ginaya nila ang UAAP kung saan nagkaroon ng pagkahaba-habang tiebreak sa women's volleyball:
ADU 12-2 (+2)
FEU 12-2 (-1)
UST 12-2 (-1)
ang nangyari dyan, FEU vs. UST for twice to beat. Panalo ang FEU so naglaban sila ng ADU for #1. WTF?

Ngapala noong 2004 din, di ba tied ang PCU at UPHR noon for #1? 1-1 yata sila sa elims. so dinaan na lang sa quotient. Ganoon na lang din sana ang gawin kung mag-tie man sa #1 at #3.

Edit: Pabor ako sa rubber match kung for #2 and #4. Kung for #1 and #3 wag na. wala kasing sense.

[Clarkent]

^ ah OK. kasi pwede ring for #4, one team +2, the other two -1 each. Sinong kakalabanin ni +2? Or wala na kasi laglag na ang dalawang -1?



useful lang yang FIBA points kuno kung may nag-walkout na team. gaya noong china sa kakatapos pa lang na fiba asia tourney, dinaig sila ng syria sa tiebreakers kahit walang napanalong isang laro on court ang syria. hahah


----
Kaya dapat alisin na yang mini-tourney na yan kung sakali. Make the elimination round games count. SSC and MIT for #2 and LC and JRU for #4 kung sakali. At kung sakali din, wala nang LC-SBC for #1. walang kwenta. hahaha

Baka ginaya nila ang UAAP kung saan nagkaroon ng pagkahaba-habang tiebreak sa women's volleyball:
ADU 12-2 (+2)
FEU 12-2 (-1)
UST 12-2 (-1)
ang nangyari dyan, FEU vs. UST for twice to beat. Panalo ang FEU so naglaban sila ng ADU for #1. WTF?

Ngapala noong 2004 din, di ba tied ang PCU at UPHR noon for #1? 1-1 yata sila sa elims. so dinaan na lang sa quotient. Ganoon na lang din sana ang gawin kung mag-tie man sa #1 at #3.

Edit: Pabor ako sa rubber match kung for #2 and #4. Kung for #1 and #3 wag na. wala kasing sense.

^ yup, i agree..

di rin ako favor dyan sa mini-tourney na yan..

Dapat talaga MIT v SSC for twice-to-beat advantage.. JRU vs CSJL for do-or-die.. para ma-rewardan yung better performance ng top teams nung elimination compared sa other team na ka-tied..

Kung seeding lang.. parang wala rin.. kasi kung top ka.. makakaharap mo yung #4 sa seeding.. e technically magkasing galing lang kayo.. kasi nga tied at 9-5.. :lol:

Pang Final 4 lang talaga dapat yang #1 vs #4 scenario na yan.. Dun mo ramdam ang advantage/disadvantage.

As for SBC-LC for #1.. dyan na dapat gamitin ang quotient.. Pinapahaba nila masyado ang NCAA.. Mauuna pa matapos ang UAAP nyan.. Seeding lang naman ang problema nila dun.. parehas naman 22B (2x to beat).

Anyways, andyan na yan.. equally exciting din naman yung mini-tourney.. yun lang parang di fair.. (SSCR should protest!)

Unforgettable tong season na to...

[Clarkent]

^ ah OK. kasi pwede ring for #4, one team +2, the other two -1 each. Sinong kakalabanin ni +2? Or wala na kasi laglag na ang dalawang -1?



Ang pwede dyan is rubber match for the lower teams.. the yung winner haharap waiting team for another rubber match..

Remember yung procedure pag nagkaroon ng sweep..

Parang ganon..

But, i dunno with MANCOM.. Unpredictable din kung minsan e.

[red_saint09]

sana wednesdya na..para magkaalaman na!

ANIMO SAN BEDA!

[Tony Montana]

^ yup, i agree..

di rin ako favor dyan sa mini-tourney na yan..

Dapat talaga MIT v SSC for twice-to-beat advantage.. JRU vs CSJL for do-or-die.. para ma-rewardan yung better performance ng top teams nung elimination compared sa other team na ka-tied..

Kung seeding lang.. parang wala rin.. kasi kung top ka.. makakaharap mo yung #4 sa seeding.. e technically magkasing galing lang kayo.. kasi nga tied at 9-5.. :lol:

Pang Final 4 lang talaga dapat yang #1 vs #4 scenario na yan.. Dun mo ramdam ang advantage/disadvantage.

As for SBC-LC for #1.. dyan na dapat gamitin ang quotient.. Pinapahaba nila masyado ang NCAA.. Mauuna pa matapos ang UAAP nyan.. Seeding lang naman ang problema nila dun.. parehas naman 22B (2x to beat).

Anyways, andyan na yan.. equally exciting din naman yung mini-tourney.. yun lang parang di fair.. (SSCR should protest!)

Unforgettable tong season na to...

hehehe October na matatapos ang season kung ganito. yung Quotient pala balewala rin, para sa seedings lang pala yun....

[try_0]

Mahiwagang kamay ng makapangyarihang MANCOM!

[Lustful Kisses]

tingin ko, mas magiging madali ata sa sbc KAPAG natalo sila sa wednesday, kasi may twice to beat parin sila, mawawalan lang sila ng game, kasi for sure matagal pa sila makakapaglaro ulit dahil sa knockout games

well bahala na sa wednesday :)

[bRaced]

Wednesday's the deciding day! haaaay....

[anti_malayan]

sana walang maging salamangkero sa ganyan.. pero hindi natin alam diba? hindi pro league ito kaya naku... san damakmak ang pwdeng maging hokus pokus hehehe

[anton615]

Mapua sana pumasok over JRU.

[anti_malayan]

basta mapua!! parang ginebra yan...

[FerdinandMarcos]

NCAA path down to two scenarios
by Mike Abasolo
1,872 Views | 96 Comments
This part of College Basketball is getting better and better each week. After the final game of the elimination round, we’ll find out the best scenario possible for NCAA Season 84. In my years of following the NCAA, this is probably the 1st time, in such a long time, a situation like this has ever happened.

So we are on another history trail in the making. It’s been an exciting season so far. And this is what all of you NCAA enthusiasts are willing to pay for. Let us look at only two remaining scenarios.

If Letran wins on September 10, San Beda and Letran will have an identical 10-4 card and will have a three way tie at 9-5, we can call them the Fab Five for now, but it can also be the Final Five, but definitely not the one from motown.

Anyway, both are assured of twice to beat but will have another playoff game to determine who takes the summit.

San Sebastian, Mapua and JRU, in pecking order, comprise 3rd, 4th and 5th spot of the standings. With JRU’s loss to Mapua in the 2nd round and using the FIBA point system (Rule D – Classification of Teams plus assuming the NCAA Mancom has made the right arithmetic), to determine the seeding order, the Cardinals ended up with better numbers thus seizing the No. 4 spot. Mapua’s resilience throughout the elimination round actually paid off.

To determine the 4th seed, Mapua and JRU will have a sudden death outing to be determined after September 10. The winner of the sudden death affair will face San Sebastian in another do or die encounter to determine the 3rd and 4th spot of the Final Four.

If San Beda wins on September 10, San Beda will be untouchable with its twice to beat advantage intact.

If this happens, it will be a Final Four towards the Final Four because of a four-way tie at 9-5.

Using again the FIBA point system, San Sebastian, Mapua, Letran and JRU shall comprise the order of business in this series. In this case, San Sebastian will face JRU, and Mapua will take on Letran.

Winners will have another round to determine who sits on No. 2 and get the next twice to beat incentive. The loser takes the 3rd slot.

Losers will have their own series to determine the No. 4 slot and earn the right to face the NCAA defending champs in case this scenario comes to life. Loser takes a vacation.

So there you have it. An NCAA Season worth remembering. It is surely one of the most memorable ever. And who says that this is a league dominated by a single team? Anybody who thinks like so is absolutely mistaken.

[Clarkent]

So, eto na.. 4-way tie na nga..

The "FINAL 5"

SBC 11 3
SSC 9 5
MIT 9 5
CSJL 9 5
JRU 9 5


Games on Monday..

Mapua vs Letran

San Sebastian vs Jose Rizal

[Tony Montana]

^^^
OT lang televise ba yung laro sa monday?

[Lustful Kisses]

yep, ito na po talaga yun!:D

[Clarkent]

baka hindi televised yan.. Sana imove na lang ng Wednesday..

Bahala na kung sino kalawangin.. :lol:

[jyrcum]

may schedule na po..

Sep 15 (Mon)

2:00PM JRU vs SSC-R
4:00PM MIT vs CSJL

(Cuneta Astrodome)
source: inboundpass.com

goodluck cardinals!!

[chant animo!]

it should be televised!!!...crucial games ang mga yan e..

[tophe_17]

^ Exactly! Saka minsan lang nangyayari 'to. Sayang talaga.

[theo78]

televised...kaya nga 11:30 am yung jrs stepladder semis ng csb at jru! :)

[tophe_17]

Usually kasi pag Monday hindi televised, right?

[daisy_letran]

mas maraming manonood ng live pag hindi televised ang games. w/c means mas marami ang bibili ng tickets.

[chant animo!]

kapag monday hindi televised...pero siguro since important games ang mga yan ay itelevise na nila

[Rey_pumaloy]

arriba letran!!!

[Bahay_Kubo]

hmmmmm... looks like a "complicated" situation in the NCAA right now. ikinakatakot ko lang ay baka may ma-UE dyan. :naughty:

joke lang po. *peace* :glee:

[Ferocious Lion]

Why start the series on Monday when its more convenient to do it beginning Friday?

Are they trying to stretch the schedule and ensure that the Red Lions will get rusty?

Damn Mancom.

[Bahay_Kubo]

Why start the series on Monday when its more convenient to do it beginning Friday?

Are they trying to stretch the schedule and ensure that the Red Lions will get rusty?

Damn Mancom.

baka naman hindi available ang Araneta Coliseum on Friday kaya Monday na lang. oh well, kung di naman pwede sa Araneta, pwede naman sa Cuneta, hindi ba (pero kung ako sa inyo, lipat na lang kayo sa mas safe na ULTRA kaysa dyan sa Cuneta na nuknukan ng dami ang mga masasamang loob)? :?:

i guess San Beda has already prepared for the complications to be brought about by a four-way tie among Letran, Baste, JRU and Mapua. Frankie Lim is surely aware of what happened to the sweeper UE Red Warriors when they were swept by the De La Salle Green Archers during last year's UAAP Finals so he will not allow that same kind of situation to befall on the Red Lions. :D

[billbordzz]

kakatakot baka kalawangin nga talaga... wag naman sana...

[try_0]

The ARENA nalang kasi ang potek! Mananakawan ka lang sa Cuneta eh!

[Bahay_Kubo]

The ARENA nalang kasi ang potek! Mananakawan ka lang sa Cuneta eh!

masyadong maliit ang The Arena in San Juan for games of such caliber and importance. it's either the Araneta Coliseum or the ULTRA if i will have things done my way. ;)

[EcKo_01]

mas mauuna na talaga ang uaap matapos for the first time..

[billbordzz]

televise ba *** games sa monday?

[Tony Montana]

pero ang huling sinabi kanina ni bill velasco nang patapos na yung telecast eh "see you on monday"... sana i-telivise nga napakaimportante ng mga laro na-ito. medyo burnout lang dito kung sino manalo sa #2 & #3, ang dami nilang laro (knouckout, best of 3, twice to beat and finally the finals).

[billbordzz]

ic...tnx tol.. so ndi pa sure kung televise nga... hayyy naman kasi pwede namang this friday na

[validus]

who among these teams will most likely lose two games in a row?

[Clarkent]

ic...tnx tol.. so ndi pa sure kung televise nga... hayyy naman kasi pwede namang this friday na

sana gawing Monday ang live telecast, in lieu of Friday..

[EcKo_01]

wow! it's knockout week! probably final 4 na come friday!

[andreiboy026]

Televise po lahat ng laban s monday...except s juniors..

[jpmalpass]

Televise yan, dba ganyan din yung sa UAAP, nung nagkaron ng important na game tapos natapat sa Tuesday, tinelevise nila... *okay*

[billbordzz]

naks tnx, andreiboy! at least ndi na ko pupunta para panoorin *** apat teams sa cuneta... hehehe exciting talaga ngayon mga games

[ggow_miles]

i thought MANCOM will use the FIBA pointing system, in that case kasi, SSC will be in 2nd place, anyway its a good thing na din, at least pantay lang sa lahat ng team.