National Science Complex and National Engineering Complex

[fortherecord]

National Science Complex

The National Science Complex, located on a 21.9–hectare lot in UP Diliman, is envisioned to serve as the national hub for the generation and application of new scientific knowledge in the natural and applied sciences and mathematics.

The Complex requires about PhP1.7 billion to complete the infrastructure requirements of National Institute of Physics (NIP), Institute of Mathematics (IM), Institute of Chemistry (IC), Institute of Biology (IB), National Institute of Molecular Biology and Biotechnology (NIMBB), College of Science Administration and Institute of Environmental Science and Meteorology (IESM).

At this point in time, only the buildings for National Institute of Geological Sciences (NIGS), National Science Research Institute (NSRI), Marine Science Institute (MSI) and the College of Science Library may be considered essentially complete.

In EO 583, President Macapagal-Arroyo approved the release of PhP500 million. The amount will be used to complete the buildings for NIP (PhP145 million), IM (PhP55 million) and to start the IC Building (PhP200 million). The remaining PhP100 million will be utilized to build a road network inside the Complex and to set up technology incubation centers that will serve the instrumentation needs of academic researchers and industry.

For 2008, the National Government earmarked another PhP500 million to complete the IC building and to start the construction of
the IB, the NIMBB and the College of Science Administration buildings.

For 2009, the amount of PhP500 million will be asked to complete the buildings for IB, NIMBB and College of Science Administration Office and to start the IESM building.

The IESM building will be completed with an additional PhP100 million in the 2010 UP budget.

National Engineering Complex

The National Engineering Complex, which is the infrastructure component of the Engineering Research and Development for Technology (ERDT), aims to implement the research agenda aligned with the National Science and Technology Plan and the Medium Term Philippine Development Plan, attain a critical mass of MS and PhD graduates (RSE’s), upgrade the qualifications of practicing engineers and engineering colleges and develop a culture of R&D.

For its completion, the Complex needs an estimated amount of Php 1.35 billion. At this point in time, only the Electrical and Electronics Engineering (EEE) Department (Phase 1) and the
Engineering Library and Computer Science buildings may be considered essentially complete.

For 2008, UP allocated Php 644.8 million to start the construction of the National Institute of Civil Engineering building; Industrial Engineering and Mechanical Engineering building; Mining,Metallurgical and Materials Engineering building; EEE Power Annex building; and the Center for Energy and Environmental Engineering building.

The Chemical Engineering building, Industrial Computing and Communications Research Laboratory building and the College of Engineering Administration building will be constructed in the near future. In addition, the departments of Geodetic Engineering, Engineering Science and Computer Science will be modernized.


From:

http://www.engg.upd.edu.ph/downloads/UPAEpgc.pdf
http://www.science.upd.edu.ph/ (CS Annual Report 2007)
http://www.engg.upd.edu.ph/downloads/oblationv2i1.pdf

[physicist]

National Science Complex

The National Science Complex, located on a 21.9–hectare lot in UP Diliman, is envisioned to serve as the national hub for the generation and application of new scientific knowledge in the natural and applied sciences and mathematics.

The Complex requires about PhP1.7 billion to complete the infrastructure requirements of National Institute of Physics (NIP), Institute of Mathematics (IM), Institute of Chemistry (IC), Institute of Biology (IB), National Institute of Molecular Biology and Biotechnology (NIMBB), College of Science Administration and Institute of Environmental Science and Meteorology (IESM).

At this point in time, only the buildings for National Institute of Geological Sciences (NIGS), National Science Research Institute (NSRI), Marine Science Institute (MSI) and the College of Science Library may be considered essentially complete.

In EO 583, President Macapagal-Arroyo approved the release of PhP500 million. The amount will be used to complete the buildings for NIP (PhP145 million), IM (PhP55 million) and to start the IC Building (PhP200 million). The remaining PhP100 million will be utilized to build a road network inside the Complex and to set up technology incubation centers that will serve the instrumentation needs of academic researchers and industry.

For 2008, the National Government earmarked another PhP500 million to complete the IC building and to start the construction of
the IB, the NIMBB and the College of Science Administration buildings.

For 2009, the amount of PhP500 million will be asked to complete the buildings for IB, NIMBB and College of Science Administration Office and to start the IESM building.

The IESM building will be completed with an additional PhP100 million in the 2010 UP budget.

National Engineering Complex

The National Engineering Complex, which is the infrastructure component of the Engineering Research and Development for Technology (ERDT), aims to implement the research agenda aligned with the National Science and Technology Plan and the Medium Term Philippine Development Plan, attain a critical mass of MS and PhD graduates (RSE’s), upgrade the qualifications of practicing engineers and engineering colleges and develop a culture of R&D.

For its completion, the Complex needs an estimated amount of Php 1.35 billion. At this point in time, only the Electrical and Electronics Engineering (EEE) Department (Phase 1) and the
Engineering Library and Computer Science buildings may be considered essentially complete.

For 2008, UP allocated Php 644.8 million to start the construction of the National Institute of Civil Engineering building; Industrial Engineering and Mechanical Engineering building; Mining,Metallurgical and Materials Engineering building; EEE Power Annex building; and the Center for Energy and Environmental Engineering building.

The Chemical Engineering building, Industrial Computing and Communications Research Laboratory building and the College of Engineering Administration building will be constructed in the near future. In addition, the departments of Geodetic Engineering, Engineering Science and Computer Science will be modernized.


From:

http://www.engg.upd.edu.ph/downloads/UPAEpgc.pdf
http://www.science.upd.edu.ph/ (CS Annual Report 2007)
http://www.engg.upd.edu.ph/downloads/oblationv2i1.pdf


This is very, very encouraging.

I hope most of this is done by the time I get back to Katipunan.

[hahahaok]

Hay.. Ang galing.. With this plan (na dapat matagal nang ginawa), I hope, we could increase our S&T, R&D output that would benefit the country. And sana, hindi lang dito sa UPD, sana all throughout the country, dumami na rin ang research facilities.

PS: Ang swerte ng future EEE studs, hindi na kailangang pumunta pa ng YIA para lang mag 44. Haggard kaya! Mas lalo na mga EE sa power lab, di na malayo sa ibang EEE studs! Hahaha. Galing galing galing!!!
*okay*

[pepsicola]

ang laki naman yata nung physics building...

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb82/iansalido/buildingmodel.jpg

physics lang talaga dito?:hmm:

[jescythe]

^maraming mga research labs rin kasi yan kaya siguro malaki, malay mo gumagawa pala sila ng sariling version ng particle accelerator :naughty:

^^haha! oo nga, sila lang yung naiwan sa Yia Hall :glee: tapos sa loob ng phase 2 e talagang malalaki na yung equipment na ilalagay nila, ala frankenstein laboratory :glee:

[BMK]

Hay.. Ang galing.. With this plan (na dapat matagal nang ginawa), I hope, we could increase our S&T, R&D output that would benefit the country. And sana, hindi lang dito sa UPD, sana all throughout the country, dumami na rin ang research facilities.

PS: Ang swerte ng future EEE studs, hindi na kailangang pumunta pa ng YIA para lang mag 44. Haggard kaya! Mas lalo na mga EE sa power lab, di na malayo sa ibang EEE studs! Hahaha. Galing galing galing!!!
*okay*

Yeah, sana pati rin yung UPLB, magkaroon din ng malaking Science & Engineering Complex para hindi naman puro agriculture-related ang mga research institutes duon. Ang DLS-Canlubang nga, nag-iinvest na talaga sa mga research institutes.

[hahahaok]

^Alam ko rin, marami talagang wings ang Physics building, kaso isang wing pa lang ang gawa. Yes, plan talaga for physics yan.

[math_techie]

^ yup. With the kind of equipments that they are hoping to house there, dapat nga ata ganyan sila kalaki

[huntfan]

^^^ Yes, those are Physics buildings. May research and laboratory, teaching, and administrative wings yung Physics kaya ganyan kalaki sya.

Eto yung link about the National Institute of Physics (NIP) building..

http://www.science.upd.edu.ph/nip/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=79

New NIP Building

The National Institute of Physics Research Wing was formally inaugurated last January 25, 2005. It is located along C.P. Garcia Ave. in the UP Diliman Campus. The building is meant to house the various research groups and laboratories of the institute, and some facilities have already been established. The Research Wing serves not only NIP's research projects but its educational thrust too, with its new classrooms and teaching laboratories. Students of service courses in General Physics attend their laboratory classes here. Meanwhile, undergraduate students in the BS Physics and BS Applied Physics programs benefit from laboratories for advanced physics, electronics, and computational physics subjects. Similarly, the building is the venue for several lecture classes. And also, some administrative departments of NIP now hold office in the Research Wing. With these new facilities, the new NIP Research Wing is the current pride of the institute, and will only grow in importance during the coming years of NIP's service not only to the UP community but to the country's science and technology aspirations as a whole.

[fortherecord]

Yeah, Physics lang yun...
eto yung proposed Chem building...
http://http://www.geocities.com/ryelicious_19/newic_bldg1.jpg

[light-emitting]

I fervently hope this can boost not only UP's status (needless to expound on this), but also the country's motive of having a developed science and technology arm. :)

Hay.. Ang galing.. With this plan (na dapat matagal nang ginawa), I hope, we could increase our S&T, R&D output that would benefit the country. And sana, hindi lang dito sa UPD, sana all throughout the country, dumami na rin ang research facilities.

PS: Ang swerte ng future EEE studs, hindi na kailangang pumunta pa ng YIA para lang mag 44. Haggard kaya! Mas lalo na mga EE sa power lab, di na malayo sa ibang EEE studs! Hahaha. Galing galing galing!!!
*okay*

Gusto ko lang magreact dito: HAGGARD OKAY? GANTO AKO NGAYON! Haha! Tapos babalik ka ng EEE para sa mga lec classes mo, ugh :rotflmao: And I hope hindi na maging alienated ang mga EE from the ECEs and CoEs hehe. *okay*

[Churbs]

Hay, kelan kaya gagawan ng building ang ChE. :(

[p1215]

Yung College of Science Complex 1980's pa pinag-uusapan iyan. Ang binabanggit ni Dean Roger Posadas na completion time sa mga speeches niya sa Freshman Orientation ay pag-graduate nila ng late 80's or early 90's, patapos na daw ang Science Complex. Nagkaroon ng sunod-sunod na problema: nag EDSA, nagkapagasa after EDSA dahil may senators na willing ibigay yung part ng CDF nila para sa building construction kaso nagkaproblema sa architect at architectural plans, by the time na resolve yung architectural issues ang dami ng attempted coup d'etats at na devalue na ang peso , nakakuha ng additional funding, kaso pagkakuha ng additional funding natapos yung term ng mga senators na willing tumulong, may nakuhang additional money noong Ramos era kaso na devalue uli ang peso dahil sa 1997 Asian crisis etc...

Bottomline: Kung may pera na ngayon, tingin ko matatapos iyan in phases. Pag di siya natapos ng buo before 2010 may chance magaya sa experience ng College of Science Complex.

Hay, kelan kaya gagawan ng building ang ChE. :(

[ubermensch]

^maraming mga research labs rin kasi yan kaya siguro malaki, malay mo gumagawa pala sila ng sariling version ng particle accelerator :naughty:


haha, ayos *okay*

thanks. i suddenly remembered the large hadron collider (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/08/the_large_hadron_collider.html)

[physicist]

haha, ayos *okay*

thanks. i suddenly remembered the large hadron collider (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/08/the_large_hadron_collider.html)

Pareng ubermensch, the LHC amount to around 5 billion dollars. That's close to one-third our national budget. :)

If the Philippines (by itself) is ever to build a particle accelerator, it'll be on a much, much smaller scale.

[Lady Chablis]

Guys, let's not be carried away. CERN's Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is very expensive to build and maintain even by the affluent West's standard. It is funded by 20 member states of the European Union and 8 observer countries/org, including the USA, India, Israel, etc. It would be unrealistic and irresponsible for the Philippines to spend that kind of money to build even a scaled down version of an atom collider. That money could be better spent in many other ways.

[Chicxulub]

I think that the National Science Complex should have been put up in Los Baños. Yes, the science and nature city of Los Baños hosts the most number of science, technology and research institution in the Philippines and houses the largest concentration of PhDs* and that UPLB has its own Science and Technology Incubation Park. With that, I think its wholly essential that this "national" science complex be put up there. I don't think a science community can thrive in a city like Quezon City. The Los Baños science community is considered one of the most diverse and numerous and that putting up a complete facility [there] would be tremendous to ease of researches, among others.

I guess this is just a manifestation of UP Diliman monopoly and Dilimancentrism. I am not against the project (holala, the Ayalas even got caught in it) but the location has been troubling my mind.

[fortherecord]

The Philippine Government and the UP admin's decision to set up the National Science Complex in Diliman is correct.

1. The UP Diliman-College of Science has the highest concentration of PhD faculty (149). It is also the foremost producer of science and mathematics PhD and MS graduates in the country.

2. The Science Complex is adjacent to the 5-hectare UP South Science and Technology Park located along C.P. Garcia Avenue. This IT Park houses several technology incubation centers.

3. The Science Complex is adjacent to the site of the future Engineering Complex.

4. The soon-to-be-completed UP North Science and Technology Park is also located in Diliman.

[kiko17]

anong balak sa ChemE department? sana naman hindi WALA!

[math_techie]

^ I think ChemE is planning to move to the National Engineering Complex...although matagal pa siguro kasi tinatayo pa lang yung building nila eh.

[Chicxulub]

The Philippine Government and the UP admin's decision to set up the National Science Complex in Diliman is correct.

1. The UP Diliman-College of Science has the highest concentration of PhD faculty (149). It is also the foremost producer of science and mathematics PhD and MS graduates in the country.

2. The Science Complex is adjacent to the 5-hectare UP South Science and Technology Park located along C.P. Garcia Avenue. This IT Park houses several technology incubation centers.

3. The Science Complex is adjacent to the site of the future Engineering Complex.

4. The soon-to-be-completed UP North Science and Technology Park is also located in Diliman.

I believe your second to fourth reason only surfaced recently since this South and North Science and Technology Park is new. As for the Engineering Complex, I've got no problem about that. Engineering is best in UP Diliman.


About your first reason, the sciences in UP Los Baños is not collected in one college as compared to UP Diliman. The College of Agriculture of UPLB alone has almost 100 PhDs. These are sciences--with the Veterinary Medicine, Forestry and the Environmental Science--in UPLB not designated under one roof (college). If these sciences be massed, I bet such a college could count more than 200 PhDs. These are facts not broadcasted by UPLB.

Not to mention the number of PhDs in several research institutions in Los Baños. That is why there's that book* that claims that the science community of Los Baños (which is hugely assembled as Los Baños Science Community Foundation, Inc.) has one of the largest concentration of Phds in the world. Moreover, a writer even coined Los Baños as [one of] the most "scienced" city in the world.

Please do not see this as "my-school-is-better-than-your-school" post. I am just saying facts to substantiate my bitterness over the location of the National Science Complex. In addition, I know and accept that UPD is better than UPLB.



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*I forgot it but it's a centennial coffee table book

[adhd]

^^Ooops, wag na mag-away!
hayaan mo magkakaron din ng katulad nyan sa UPLB.
Inuuna lang muna sa UP Diliman.

It's not good that two UP campuses are going against each other.
Each CU has it's own niche and it's not good to compare.

[Aleancelo]

Nung time ni President Erap at si Angara pa ang Agriculture Secretary, nagplano sila na magtatayo daw ng AGRICULTURE HERITAGE PARK sa UPLB. Grandiyoso ang mga plano pero walang nangyari matapos matanggal sa puwesto si Erap.

[_randyleo]

I got curious with chicxclub's statement about Los Banos being the most scienced city in the world. How the hell could a third-world city beat the science parks/cities of India, Israel, Japan, Europe and the US? So I googled it and I came across this article (http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/39891) about a research revealing that Los Banos may be the most scienced city in Asia, if not in the world:
"In his 1-year-plus research for his twin books, (Fernando) Bernardo came to realize that the little town of Los Baños in Laguna, some 65 km south of Manila, may be The Most Scienced City in Asia (my coinage); in fact, it may have the highest concentration of scientific expertise and experience in the world. Bernardo based his conclusion on (a) number of staff with higher academic degrees obtained, and (b) number of centers of excellence in research. There are 300+ holders of Master of Science degrees, 500+ of Doctor of Philosophy degrees. At the UPLB campus alone, there are 11 colleges, institutes and schools. Comprising the Los Baños Science Community are 38 national and international research & development institutions. On campus, there are several museums and nature gardens: the International Rice Research Institute’s Rice World, the UP Los Baños’ Museum of Natural History, Makiling Botanic Garden, Science Park, Agri-Park, Makiling National Park."
That's really something.

Regarding the location where the science complex should be put, I think the decision to put it up in Diliman is right. Both campus have the same level of scientific productivity, but Diliman has more diversed degree programs and is nearer to UP Manila and thus can integrate scientific research with non-scientific ones. My next and final justification may be too straightforward and a little contreversial. The science complex should be put up in Diliman because the campus is where most of the academic elite go as evidenced by the number of Oblation scholars and by the high cut-off UPCAT grade.

[Chicxulub]

Alas... that UPCAT is just young.

Anyway, those on the top (the regents) might have the best say of this issue as pertained by their decision of putting up this national complexes.

As for the oblation scholar, we cannot really say that those oblation scholars will be consistent to their scholarly years (upcoming, perhaps). Remember that such are only measures of their knowledge/learning attainment during their secondary years. Not all oblation scholars graduate/d with honors.

About the cut-off... it's just the decimal number.


All-in-all, I'm still bitter about it. Hehehe.