View Full Version : Barroca=King Tamaraw
JoeBudden
Aug 2, 2008, 07:23 PM
dati si rhagnee cinco ***** **** si barocca ang king tamaraw. discuss.:lol::lol:
brat_blacksheep
Aug 2, 2008, 07:38 PM
king tamaraw? baka king kong... JUNIOR. pandak e.
JoeBudden
Aug 2, 2008, 07:39 PM
kilala mo ba si rhagnee?
far_east
Aug 2, 2008, 07:40 PM
ahehehe king kong..medyo korek ka dun ahh....natawa tuloy ako... :)
2 flip the bird
Aug 2, 2008, 08:19 PM
sobrang gwapo ni barocca at parang ang bango ng smell nya lalo na pag pawis na pawis sya.
far_east
Aug 2, 2008, 08:24 PM
hahaha loko ka talaga 2flip...seryoso kaba??:))
makoy63
Aug 2, 2008, 08:27 PM
sobrang gwapo ni barocca at parang ang bango ng smell nya lalo na pag pawis na pawis sya.
nabilaukan ako dito ah...:bop:
JoeBudden
Aug 2, 2008, 08:30 PM
sobrang gwapo ni barocca at parang ang bango ng smell nya lalo na pag pawis na pawis sya.
pero balita ko hot daw syota nyan tol.
ricky_rubio
Aug 2, 2008, 08:31 PM
king tamaraw? baka king kong... JUNIOR. pandak e.
wow, hanep kung makapanlait ah :(
wala sa looks yan...nasa husay yan...
baka pag nag one on one kayo ni andy barocca di ka manalo..hehe:lol:
far_east
Aug 2, 2008, 08:33 PM
ou nga hindi nasa looks yan nasa ugali...tignan mo kahit pangit ako gwapo parin
JoeBudden
Aug 2, 2008, 08:35 PM
wow, hanep kung makapanlait ah :(
wala sa looks yan...nasa husay yan...
baka pag nag one on one kayo ni andy barocca di ka manalo..hehe:lol:
e hindi **** yung galing nya ang pinaguusapan dito e kungdi yung "looks" nya.ahahaha
far_east
Aug 2, 2008, 08:37 PM
may tama ka rin joe..hahaha..hay naku ewan ko sainyo...
JoeBudden
Aug 2, 2008, 08:41 PM
hindi ko **** sinasabi na gwapo ako and sinasabi ko lang e king tamaraw talaga si barocca.
truth is that which is.ahahahaha.ownage pwnage!LOLage.
brat_blacksheep
Aug 2, 2008, 08:49 PM
wow, hanep kung makapanlait ah :(
wala sa looks yan...nasa husay yan...
baka pag nag one on one kayo ni andy barocca di ka manalo..hehe:lol:
barocca, ikaw ba yan?!
far_east
Aug 2, 2008, 08:50 PM
lolage...hahaha ako rin meron....shitness hotnesss...hahahah
ricky_rubio
Aug 2, 2008, 08:57 PM
hindi...si Mark Andaya ako...:rotflmao::lol:
beauxbatons
Aug 2, 2008, 08:59 PM
barocca, ikaw ba yan?!
:rotflmao::rotflmao:
Derrick_Rose
Aug 2, 2008, 08:59 PM
The Next Denok Miranda, and baka maging top 3 picks pa yan sa 2010 or 2011 PBA Draft.
lkrskb8
Aug 2, 2008, 09:01 PM
ben fernandez ang king tamaraw
di naman point guard si rhagnee eh, tama ba?
Derrick_Rose
Aug 2, 2008, 09:24 PM
ben fernandez ang king tamaraw
di naman point guard si rhagnee eh, tama ba?
SF ang position ni Rhagnee Cinco nung naglalaro pa siya sa UAAP
lkrskb8
Aug 2, 2008, 09:32 PM
kasi kung based sa position ang pagiging king tamaraw and SF si cinco, eh di si cawaling ang equivalent nya ngayon
brat_blacksheep
Aug 2, 2008, 09:53 PM
si mac baracael ang king tamaraw kaya lang nabaril-cael kaya out for the season.
JoeBudden
Aug 3, 2008, 07:38 AM
ben fernandez ang king tamaraw
di naman point guard si rhagnee eh, tama ba?
MALI!
ahahaha! hindi mo nagets ang thread. owned.
lkrskb8
Aug 3, 2008, 08:58 AM
MALI!
ahahaha! hindi mo nagets ang thread. owned.
gets ko na! tsk tsk:bop:
JoeBudden
Aug 3, 2008, 09:44 AM
gets ko na! tsk tsk:bop:
finally! what took you so long?
lkrskb8
Aug 3, 2008, 10:00 AM
naunahan kasi nung nakita yung words na "king tamaraw":lol:
ascharis 99
Aug 4, 2008, 01:02 PM
Huever started ds thread, umayos ka naman. Kung manlait ka kala mo napakagwapo mo.. Matindi ba galit mo kay mark?:hmm:
theo78
Aug 4, 2008, 04:20 PM
a native of zamboanga, barroca had a good game against ateneo...he was an asset on defense against chris tiu...has a makings of denok miranda...
lkrskb8
Aug 4, 2008, 04:35 PM
a native of zamboanga, barroca had a good game against ateneo...he was an asset on defense against chris tiu...has a makings of denok miranda...
may mga galaw nga sila halos magparehas
therapist20069
Aug 4, 2008, 05:46 PM
pero balita ko hot daw syota nyan tol.
Si Andi Manzano?
Imagine kung nagpakasal sila, she will be called Mrs.Andi Barocca.
Congratulations to Andy and Andi Barocca.
Tapos yung first baby nila - Andi 1.
go_tams
Aug 5, 2008, 10:39 AM
andy barocca was a former track and field athlete before pero hindi sa FEU. no wonder he has the stamina during their last game sa ADMU. yun ang babad sa laro.
ascharis 99
Aug 5, 2008, 10:15 PM
Si Andi Manzano?
Imagine kung nagpakasal sila, she will be called Mrs.Andi Barocca.
Congratulations to Andy and Andi Barocca.
Tapos yung first baby nila - Andi 1.
Epal naman ng nagpost nito. Galit nga kay mark.:rolleyes:
cauchien
Aug 6, 2008, 01:13 AM
hindi ako familiar sa face niya.
pic naman! :D
Gospel of Judas
Aug 6, 2008, 02:17 AM
Baracael = King Tamaraw
Barroca = LOO-King Tamaraw :D
therapist20069
Aug 6, 2008, 09:45 AM
Barocca - TAMARAW Security Agency
Owen_10
Aug 7, 2008, 03:19 PM
Baracael = King Tamaraw
Barroca = LOO-King Tamaraw :D
Haha. Nice one GoJ.:rotflmao:
Owen_10
Aug 7, 2008, 03:22 PM
Si Andi Manzano?
Imagine kung nagpakasal sila, she will be called Mrs.Andi Barocca.
Congratulations to Andy and Andi Barocca.
Tapos yung first baby nila - Andi 1.
Haha. Ang ganda rin ng banat nito. :lol:
Sabi ng friend ko before, parang tinapak-tapakan daw ng sampung tao yung mukha ni rhagnee kaya ganun daw nagyari sa ilong niya. Di ako nagsabi nun ha, shinare ko lang.*okay*
Noodles_Oblique
Aug 8, 2008, 01:33 AM
This thread must be closed, to moderator, the sole purpose of this thread is to redicule Barroca and other FEU players...please close this thread.
Pound4Pound
Aug 8, 2008, 01:37 AM
Haha. Ang ganda rin ng banat nito. :lol:
Sabi ng friend ko before, parang tinapak-tapakan daw ng sampung tao yung mukha ni rhagnee kaya ganun daw nagyari sa ilong niya. Di ako nagsabi nun ha, shinare ko lang.*okay*
huh kung ganun..
eh di mukha na siyang TUHOD yon dba?
:rotflmao:
b3lowzro
Aug 8, 2008, 02:11 AM
This thread must be closed, to moderator, the sole purpose of this thread is to redicule Barroca and other FEU players...please close this thread.
Dont take it seriously, the thread will die out on its own when barroca does something incredible for FEU like scares again Chris Tiu on their coming game on Saturday. I also bet si Andi doesn't need his looks to hit on chicks. Even Sam Ekwe (well according to hearsay) has his own na rin.
theo78
Aug 24, 2008, 03:43 PM
he's getting better...dlsu did not respect his shooting in the final quarter which led to their downfall...
gagaling pa itong bata na ito...
mojackomojacko
Aug 24, 2008, 04:08 PM
King nga sha vs DLSU.
PizzaTamaraw
Aug 25, 2008, 04:45 AM
Kailangan pa ng masusing evaluation bago siya maging king tamaraw^^ dadating din tayo dyan^^
theo78
Jun 8, 2009, 01:44 PM
i have a gut feeling na he will be the uaap season 72 mvp...or if not, a place at the mythical five...
now that may experience na siya sa smart-gilas at sa pbl stint niya sa oracle/harbour centre...
JoeBudden
Jun 12, 2009, 06:36 PM
no one gets me
chezzo-ominae
Jun 12, 2009, 07:51 PM
Tingin ko siya na ang Point Guard to beat this Season 72. Napakalaki ng inimprove nya nung off-season. Laking tulong nung stint nya sa Smart-Gilas Devt. Team.
I wish hindi siya magaya kay Jun Alisbo :(
theo78
Jun 13, 2009, 03:14 PM
mark is the best amateur point guard right now...hindi naman siguro matutulad siya ni alisbo...
this early nga, may comparison pa rin sila ni johnny a...and denok miranda...
chezzo-ominae
Jun 14, 2009, 12:57 AM
I think si Barroca & Lee ang maglalaban sa Most Improve Player for the Next season. Malaki ang inimprove nila since last season. Medyo angat lang ng Konti si Mark IMHO.
PizzaTamaraw
Jun 14, 2009, 12:59 AM
Mark Barocca will be the outstanding PG next season IMO... :D
DavidBeckham
Jul 12, 2009, 10:32 PM
i watched the games this afternoon FEU-ADMU
it seems everytime barrocca had the ball, adrenaline kicks in and he's like a runaway train.. or an unleashed pitbull.
masyadong gigil.
he missed a lot of crucial shots.
maybe he has a chip on his shoulder vs ateneo?
just an observation
ylle41
Jul 13, 2009, 05:42 PM
hindi naman... I remember Rabeh didn't have a superb 1st game last year since then doon na siya naging MVP numbers.
kungpow
Jul 13, 2009, 10:14 PM
Barrocca's confidence is high, considering his performance in various tournaments before the uaap season began. Hindi sa feeling superstar pero superstar talaga nilaro niya sa mga games na iyan. Gusto niya set siguro momentum simula pa lang ng season. Kahit sino siguro gagawin ang ginawa ni Barroca kung alam na niya na kaya na niya magtake-over ng team tulad ng ginagawa niya bago uaap season.
Marami nagkakamali sa feeling tsaka confidence. Confidence lang pinakita ni Barroca.
P.S. Lalaki ako at wala ako man-crush kay Barroca hahahaha.
iloveUAAP!
Jul 13, 2009, 10:42 PM
He is not a feeling superstar.
He is a CERTIFIED Superstar.
1st game pa lang yun. I suggest everytime na may laro ang FEU you better watch it. And I will tell you, you gonna believe me that HE IS A SUPERSTAR.
dark_blue
Jul 13, 2009, 11:02 PM
^kung napanood lang nila sa live streaming ang "Smert Jellas" lalo na si "Andi Merk" (yan kasi ang sabi ng mga commentator :glee:), ang masasabi ko ankle-breaker yan
kablooey
Jul 13, 2009, 11:17 PM
Andy 4 is a stud. I'm from Ateneo and this guy is for real.
He may not have showed much of it during his first game but when he was slashing to the basket he looked like he knew exactly what to do with the ball.
This dude dropped 30 on a PBL game. That's no easy feat. All the Ateneans yesterday knew that the key to beating FEU was to limit Barocca and we were somewhat successful with that and that's one of the reasons why we won.
commoner
Jul 14, 2009, 12:02 AM
Siya ang best scorer ng Smart Gilas against foreign players tapos siya ang naging go-to-guy ng Harbour-Oracle sa PBL kaya hindi nakakapagtaka na mataas ang confidence niya. Expect him to bounce back.
Gospel of Judas
Jul 14, 2009, 12:05 AM
if barroca scored 20 or more yesterday i don't think ateneo would have won the game.
gaLj
Jul 14, 2009, 12:16 AM
Go FEU, Go Andy " baby face " Barroca
yellowdancer
Jul 14, 2009, 12:56 AM
Hindi naman siguro feeling superstar, talagang magaling siya.
anticipator
Jul 14, 2009, 09:23 AM
lol pansin ko nga feeling siya.. pero talagang may ibubuga!
reighun
Jul 14, 2009, 09:46 AM
we should see more of him in the following games of FEU para malaman natin kung feeling lang sya o certified superstar na talaga, but i'm betting on the latter considering his off seasons stints and activities.
this guy could cream and break any team when unleash (parang si jet li yun a).
churibord
Jul 14, 2009, 03:23 PM
magaling talaga yung batang yun,eh sayang lang kung inabot nya lang yung kapanuhan ko edi sana naturuan ko pa **..
gino80974M
Jul 14, 2009, 03:39 PM
he is not "feeling superstar" as a matter of fact he is a "SUPERSTAR"! He's the best point guard/shooting guard in the league. He can score and make plays for the team.
MAGALING TALAGA SIYA.
michael-li
Jul 14, 2009, 03:50 PM
Oo nga, I dont think feeling superstar siya. Nung nag drive nga siya ako natakot para kina Rabah eh. And grabe yung defense niya kay Ryan last game.
btabernacle2000
Jul 14, 2009, 03:55 PM
malaki talaga ang na-improved kay Barroca sa pagkakasali nya sa Smart Gilas.
Pero walang katotohanan na sila na ni Anne Curtis :rotflmao:
junelle
Jul 14, 2009, 04:17 PM
malaki talaga ang na-improved kay Barroca sa pagkakasali nya sa Smart Gilas.
Pero walang katotohanan na sila na ni Anne Curtis :rotflmao:
WTF! hahaha
junelle
Jul 14, 2009, 04:19 PM
Sino pala nakakakilala sa gf nito? May nakapgsabi panalo daw ah?
reighun
Jul 14, 2009, 04:40 PM
lalo akong magtataka kung talo yung gf nya. :lol:
paralusi
Jul 14, 2009, 04:44 PM
ang feeling superstar e yung singh ng NU. kung may radio coverage lang ang UAAP, malamang ang sinabi e: "etong si singh, parang may tapaojo sa mata."
pepman
Jul 14, 2009, 05:46 PM
I love you Barroca!
loveQshaira#04
Jul 15, 2009, 12:32 AM
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/11/85/108775811/1_553544028l.jpg
magaling talaga si marc !! :) *okay*
mhek
Jul 15, 2009, 12:42 AM
http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/Chespaco/1zx5zl2.jpg
VagrantSoul
Jul 15, 2009, 12:50 AM
Feeling superstar? I think that observation is unjust, considering his improvements coming in this season from smart gilas, pbl and pre-season tourney we see him consistently putting in the numbers for his team.
When I seem him I see shades of Johnny Abarrientos in him but he still have a lot to improve in the defensive side. Yung tipong hindi hirap maka-cross ng halfcourt yung ball handler with his D ala Flying A did in his prime.
reighun
Jul 15, 2009, 09:32 AM
I've never seen Johnny A in his college years but i would guess his defense is not that good yet, he became a complete player sometime in 96, the year he won the PBA MVP with Alaska.
all i'm saying is yes barroca needs to improve more but we will not see that in his college years, we'll probably see that when he turn pro. for now let's just be amaze of his current skills for he is head and shoulder above the rest of the UAAP field.
JoeBudden
Jul 15, 2009, 10:57 AM
dont hate on the king tamaraw.
RuckuS
Jul 15, 2009, 01:22 PM
Barroca feeling superstar? i dont think so.
he has a confident demeanor around him maybe to the point of almost being cocky, but thats just the way it is with true competitors. you can visibly see the intensity in their faces.
he had a so-so game against Ateneo, but im sure that was because he was scouted well by Norman Black and the Ateneo coaching staff. also proven when they effectively controlled Cawaling and Reil Cervantes. Ateneo is a team known for its no nonsense defense and it really showed during that game.
as for the other teams, i shudder to think how Barroca and the rest of the Tamaraws will try to redeem themselves. im expecting a full scale demolition job of their next opponents starting with DLSU. these guys are itching not just for a win but for a BIG WIN.
DavidBeckham
Jul 24, 2009, 09:23 PM
i am calling on fellow PEXers to stop ridiculing andy barocca's looks
the guy is the best point guard in the UAAP today. He runs circles around the opposition's guards and outruns the bigs.
He may not be the matinee idol quality but he is a heck of a ball player. plus hindi sya mayabang like some players who are only half as good as he is..even less (e.g. joshua webb, ferdinand)
Papa Andy, si ta pwede tu le kuneste, chitoys!, zamboanga is proud of you boy! Hola Zamboanga!
side note: how true is it nililigawan nya si Andy manzano?
their first meeting when like this ...daw.
andy B: "hi, im andy. u are?
andy M: andy.
Andy B: yes, i am andy. and u?
andy M: andy.
Andy B: bingi ka ba? ako si andy. ikaw?
andy M: Andy!
Andy B: oo! andy nga pangalan ko! ikaw?!
Andy M: (walks away)
feugirl
Jul 25, 2009, 02:38 AM
hindi siya feeling para sakin, humble nga siya pag inaapproach ng mga fans compare sa ibang players
galing nya maglaro
panalo nga yung gf nya, i saw her last game with dlsu
super ganda at hot! mestisa siya chinita, matangkad din artistahin nga eh. saka madalas ko din sila nakikita sa campus e :)
HoGo
Jul 25, 2009, 04:44 AM
magaling si barrocca. yun ***.. no comment on the looks.. ;)
HoGo
Jul 25, 2009, 04:45 AM
*** nagppost ng mga dinosaur dito? ano to natgeo?!?
seta0520
Jul 25, 2009, 08:23 AM
dark crusaders are /b/tard wannabees... too bad they got the clap from their master AHIG...hahaha...
BMK
Jul 25, 2009, 08:24 AM
malaki talaga ang na-improved kay Barroca sa pagkakasali nya sa Smart Gilas.
Pero walang katotohanan na sila na ni Anne Curtis :rotflmao:
Akala ko nga, mag-on sila ni Andi Manzano tapos may balita na nagsi-selos si Rachel Daquis. :lol:
Gospel of Judas
Jul 25, 2009, 08:26 AM
magaling si barroca at wala akong complain against him pero grabe iiyak ako pag nalaman kong sila ni andi manzano
feugirl
Jul 25, 2009, 08:31 AM
Akala ko nga, mag-on sila ni Andi Manzano tapos may balita na nagsi-selos si Rachel Daquis. :lol:
hehe bat ba naissue yung anne curtis? hehe pero may hawig kay daquis yung gf niya
DavidBeckham
Jul 25, 2009, 03:57 PM
magaling si barroca at wala akong complain against him pero grabe iiyak ako pag nalaman kong sila ni andi manzano
sabay kayo ni jobe nkemakolam inuman at iyak. karibal ni barocca sa puso ni andy manzano si jobe.
potek!
Cr0w
Aug 18, 2009, 10:28 AM
Bakit madaming galit kay Andy?
Well, ako galit ako kay Andy coz he's really good... wish he played for my team.
feugirl
Sep 2, 2009, 01:38 PM
he is really good.. dati kinukuha ata siya ng admu
Gospel of Judas
Sep 2, 2009, 02:15 PM
he is really good.. dati kinukuha ata siya ng admu
salamat at barroca... boom baby the best in the business.
what a titillating tandem. :rotflmao:
theo78
Sep 2, 2009, 07:42 PM
candidate for mythical team yan...
Love.Drunk
Sep 3, 2009, 12:57 AM
hot ang shota nian!from feu din haha
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2830252&id=551951980&ref=mf#/andy.barroca?ref=ts
Love.Drunk
Sep 3, 2009, 12:58 AM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2830252&id=551951980&ref=mf#/andy.barroca?ref=ts
hot shota nian from FEU din
Kogure03
Sep 3, 2009, 04:49 AM
BARROCA ROCKS! yun lang yun..sugod ng sugod ang bumangga giba! kaya "let's go tamaraws let's go!" AHAHHAAAYYY!!
feugirl
Sep 6, 2009, 03:42 PM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2830252&id=551951980&ref=mf#/andy.barroca?ref=ts
hot shota nian from FEU din
ang ganda from feu din sha friend ko yung gf sa facebook hehehe
feugirl
Sep 6, 2009, 04:11 PM
candidate for mythical team yan...
agree galing niya eh
air_presto2
Sep 15, 2009, 03:39 PM
http://bleachersbrew.blogspot.com/2009/09/heres-to-mark-barroca.html
theo78
Sep 15, 2009, 07:25 PM
oh well...there goes his mythical team bid...
JackBauer
Sep 15, 2009, 11:54 PM
magaling si barroca at wala akong complain against him pero grabe iiyak ako pag nalaman kong sila ni andi manzano
malay mo he's a nice and funny guy *okay*
dannivince
Sep 16, 2009, 03:58 AM
He's the best point guard in the UAAP right now..Make us chavacanos proud..
ALvs
Sep 17, 2009, 07:07 AM
Both disappeared days before their respective teams were made to play crucial games in the final 4.
If the guy ends up not playing, then something is seriously wrong.
free_speech
Sep 17, 2009, 08:45 AM
FEU's Barroca does a disappearing act
Tams don’t know where he is
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:05:00 09/17/2009
FIVE DAYS BEFORE playing a defining match in the UAAP men’s basketball tournament, Far Eastern University is confronting a question it has different—and sometimes no—answers to.
Where is superstar guard Mark Barroca?
The heady playmaker had been absent from the Tamaraws’ practices since Tuesday, fueling speculations that he has been dropped from the team just days before FEU battles the University of the East Warriors at the start of the Final Four phase of the country’s most prestigious collegiate hoop tournament.
Acting on those speculations, a tip from a source and reports that top FEU officials had convened a meeting to discuss the status of one of its players, the Inquirer dropped by the FEU practice session Wednesday morning and confirmed the absence of the Smart Gilas national team standout.
When questioned, team personnel cited various reasons for the absence of the ace guard—who scored eight points, all in the first quarter, in Saturday’s game where FEU blew an 18-point lead and lost to defending champion Ateneo, 74-73, in their battle for the No. 1 ranking in the eliminations.
Team captain JR Cawaling said Barroca, who leads the Tamaraws in scoring with 12.7 points a game, had a flu. A team staff member, however, said that Barroca sustained an unspecified injury.
Further raising eyebrows is the fact that FEU coach Glenn Capacio admitted he’s unaware of Barroca’s whereabouts.
Athletic director Mark Molina said UAAP president and FEU team manager Anton Montinola will issue a statement to answer the Inquirer questions at the “proper time.”
FEU was also in the spotlight last year when one of its top players, Mac Baracael, was shot by an unidentified gunman on his way to the players’ quarters. Baracael survived the shooting.
“Di ko alam kung ano ang nangyari (I don’t know what happened),” said Capacio. “Siguro baka may pinuntahan (He may have gone somewhere).”
Reports (not in the Inquirer) earlier said that FEU officials met Tuesday noon regarding the status of an unnamed player. Late Tuesday evening, the Inquirer received a tip that Barroca had been booted out of the team dormitory inside the campus.
Cawaling, though, said Barroca had only been quarantined.
“He’s in the chapel,” said Cawaling in Filipino. “He was moved there so he won’t spread the flu. He didn’t practice yesterday.”
The 5-foot-10 Barroca also averages 5.1 rebounds, 2.7 assists and 1.6 steals as one of the top FEU players.
Yesterday, though, Cawaling talked like the team will try to make do without Barroca in the Final Four.
“We can still do it even without Mark,” said Cawaling “We trust each other. Everyone’s capable of playing in the semifinals.”
The Tamaraws, who finished second in the eliminations at 11-3 to claim the twice-to-beat semifinal advantage, will battle the Warriors at 3:30 p.m. on Saturday at the Araneta Coliseum.
*********************************
Nakow! Edi ADMU-UE na sa Finals. ADMU bags second straight UAAP crown. :)
FISH !!! :lol: :evilgrin: :lol:
rudboy
Sep 17, 2009, 10:23 AM
Paging Mr. Montinola...
theo78
Sep 17, 2009, 08:32 PM
and the plot thickens...
boogie_man
Sep 17, 2009, 09:07 PM
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/172538/disgruntled-barroca-drops-out-of-feu-team-says-manager
:confused::confused::confused:
pepman
Sep 17, 2009, 09:29 PM
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/172538/disgruntled-barroca-drops-out-of-feu-team-says-manager
:confused::confused::confused:
Sayang naman siya, eh gusto ko pang 'tong batang 'to, lalo na yung looks niya, inakupow. Pero I feel very bad for him. Superstar na scorer. Hay buhay.
reboundmag
Sep 17, 2009, 09:51 PM
It's very unfortunate that it may have come to this for one of the best - if not the best - amateur point guards today.
For all you Mark Barroca fans, please check out the latest issue of REBOUND magazine (out in stores next week), we have a feature on him which shows how dedicated he is to the sport. I find it hard to believe that he would be involved in game fixing.
Check out our Facebook fan page for more info!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/REBOUND-The-Spirit-of-College-Basketball/255018485054?ref=ts
Amazing_Warrior
Sep 17, 2009, 09:58 PM
Grabe ito!!!
kungpow
Sep 17, 2009, 10:04 PM
I don't like how Montinola manages his team. Blowing up his team just because they lost was a very unethical thing to do, and now this ? Future recruits should be warned by the practices of Montinola and his history of winning at all costs and treating the players as if they were commodities without any semblance of feelings and emotions.
iloveUAAP!
Sep 17, 2009, 10:14 PM
This a BIG BIG BIG BIG mistake of FEU!
Gospel of Judas
Sep 17, 2009, 10:18 PM
wow this just seals ateneo's back to back :eek:
free_speech
Sep 17, 2009, 10:39 PM
wow this just seals ateneo's back to back :eek:
Patay! Lalangawin na UAAP....nawala na La Salle....tapos wala ng worthy na kalaban ang Ateneo. :)
Naging Barcelona '92 na hehehe.
FISH !!! :lol: :evilgrin: :lol:
azgauth
Sep 17, 2009, 10:49 PM
w/ these scandals happening... we need an upset badly to intensify the action.... lol!
huntfan
Sep 17, 2009, 10:52 PM
Sad turn of events for FEU.
ADMU vs UE na ba ito sa finals? :D
Gospel of Judas
Sep 17, 2009, 10:55 PM
OKAY UST I WILL ROOT FOR YOU NOW LOL
:rotflmao:
dannivince
Sep 17, 2009, 11:07 PM
This is bad for FEU..can't believe they would accuse someone like that..do they have evidence to support their allegations?...damn...buti pa magconcentrate na lang si andy sa Smart Gilas...
Gospel of Judas
Sep 17, 2009, 11:13 PM
sayang naman si barroca. :(
azgauth
Sep 17, 2009, 11:27 PM
I think there's no space for an "off-night" performance for any FEU player... Although i'm not a fan of barocca, I still pity him. ~_~
djmarquezlim
Sep 17, 2009, 11:31 PM
as much as barroca's absence would affect the team, i don't think ateneo's a sure win for the back-to-back. this could be shaping up like season 69 (if it were so, UE pa yugn magchampion. hahaha)
looking at the last ADMU-FEU game, FEU lost only by one point and andy barroca's 8 points were all scored in the first quarter. it proves kayang-kaya pa rin nilang talunin yung ateneo.
of course i want admu to win the back-to-back pero i hope they won't get complacent with the series of events the past few days
tsong_go
Sep 17, 2009, 11:36 PM
Sayang ang pinagsamahan, nauwi sa ganyan. Kung bakit kasi sobrang nagduda yung mga teammates ni fafa andy eh. Kung matalo FEU dito, grabe lang ang magiging vindication para sa kanya.
azgauth
Sep 17, 2009, 11:40 PM
the scandal could either break... or intensify the tams' spirit.
Bahay_Kubo
Sep 17, 2009, 11:48 PM
things are getting really crazy over there in Morayta.
daveyyy
Sep 18, 2009, 12:22 AM
From the looks of it, the management of FEU, this season's hosts, are trying to "save face" regarding these game-fixing accusations thrown at their player. Probabaly, Barroca didn't like how he was treated by the management through all this, and so he left.
Nakakalungkot talaga 'to. Still, the drama continues... sana the squad will eventually find a way to fight through this contoversy. I'm not from FEU nor a supporter of the team, but it would really be a waste of a season if they would just fold in the final four because of this.
danella
Sep 18, 2009, 12:36 AM
Nakakalungkot naman. Mali din naman kasing pagbintangan siya ng game-fixing ng sarili niyang school. Good move din kay Barroca to quit the team. Mahirap makisama sa mga taong wala namang tiwala sa kanya.
He's a big loss to the team. Goodluck sa FEU tamaraws against UE. This is the time for all the members of the team to step up. Sayang, siya pa naman ang leader ng team.
heavy bomber
Sep 18, 2009, 01:15 AM
It's a win win situation for Mr. Montinola kapag FEU vs. Ateneo sa championship, he's the manager of FEU pero he's an Atenean so even if FEU ended as a runner up hindi ganun kasakit kay Mr. Montinola.
Derrick_Rose#1
Sep 18, 2009, 02:48 AM
Sayang naman si Barroca dapat kinausap siya ng mabuti ni Montinola.
Naku mahihirapan ang FEU na makapasok sa Finals kasi si Mark ang leading scorer at leader ng Tamaraws.
Boring na ang UAAP Final 4.
maakar8
Sep 18, 2009, 02:57 AM
This secrecy/hiding Barroca actually might be an FEU strategy to protect Barroca from people who are trying to get him to throw the games, if ever this accusations were proven true by FEU.
I think Barocca will make a surprise appearance on the actual game day.
ringcentral
Sep 18, 2009, 03:11 AM
This secrecy/hiding Barroca actually might be an FEU strategy to protect Barroca from people who are trying to get him to throw the games, if ever this accusations were proven true by FEU.
I think Barocca will make a surprise appearance on the actual game day.
Unlikely.
He already dropped out of the FEU MBT according to his manager.
rush_hour
Sep 18, 2009, 04:15 AM
Disgruntled Barroca drops out of FEU team, says manager
09/17/2009 | 08:20 PM
| | More Far Eastern U will no longer have Andy Barroca for its Final Four campaign in UAAP Season 72.
According to Barroca’s manager, Ed Ponceja, the wily guard decided to drop out of the Tamaraws’ lineup, disgruntled over what he felt were baseless accusations of game-fixing thrown at him by team officials.
“Wala na, ayaw na niya maglaro kasi may lamat na yung samahan nila ni coach (Glen Capacio)," Ponceja said in a telephone interview.
“Syempre masama loob niya dahil napapagbintangan siya. So, para hindi na siya pagdudahan, he will no longer play na lang for FEU. He will just concentrate on his studies and his other team, Smart Gilas," he added.
Andy Barroca, center, drives to the basket in an earlier game between FEU and Adamson. Jeff VenancioBarroca, a sports recreation management student, is one of the premier point guards in the UAAP. He is also a member of the Smart Gilas national team that is tasked to earn a slot to the 2012 Olympics.
Signs of trouble over at the FEU camp sprouted lately after a disgruntled Barroca skipped the last practice sessions of the Tamaraws.
Ponceja said the “accusations" had a great psychological impact on the pride of Zamboanga. Barroca, he said, opted to make himself scarce as he pondered on his tough decision to stop playing for his collegiate squad.
“Hindi makatulog and hindi makakain yung bata," said Ponceja. “Si Andy is one of those players who dreamed of making big and earn a career playing basketball. Mahirap lang ang pamilya niyan. But his family was devastated as well upon hearing such accusations."
Asked whether his ward would consider transferring to other schools, Ponceja said it would not be an option.
“Sayang naman kasi 30 units na lang yata and kaya na niya tapusin ito in one-and-a-half year's time," Ponceja said.
According to Ponceja, Barroca was signed to a three-year contract by Smart Gilas. As such, his ward would now devote his time playing for the amateur squad tasked to represent the country in major international tournaments.
He is also expected to be included in the Gilas lineup which would play as guest squad in the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA).
Calls made by GMANews.TV to coach Capacio weren’t answered as of posting time.
Barroca’s absence in the Final Four will likely affect the Tamaraws’ playoffs campaign. FEU finished No. 2 at the end of the elimination round to earn a twice-to-beat advantage against University of the East. - GMANews.TV
bagtitako
Sep 18, 2009, 06:21 AM
He should play where he is RESPECTED and APPRECIATED.
Go lead the SMART GILAS TEAM and show your true worth.
Tiene mas bien plano el Dios para kuntigo. No castiga el cuerpo si sabe tu nuay tu kosa ya ase mali. Tiene pa manyana para manda mira kanila pakilaya tu de bueno. *okay*
djmarquezlim
Sep 18, 2009, 07:51 AM
http://sports.inquirer.net/collegiate/collegiate/view/20090917-225716/Tams-want-ace-playmaker-out
different version of the story here. hmmmm... looking at it from a psychological perspective, different versions of a story could possibly mean that the whole event could be fabricated and the real story hidden from the public.
e sabi dito may chance pa makalaro si barroca e. haha
free_speech
Sep 18, 2009, 08:08 AM
I think Barroca will make a surprise appearance on the actual game day.
Sitting on ADMU's side or wearing an ADMU jersey? :naughty:
Take note SMART-GILAS is owned by ehem ehem. :)
FISH !!! :lol: :evilgrin: :lol:
TaShawn
Sep 18, 2009, 09:21 AM
^Maybe he will transfer there in the future.
Jai Reyes will be gone after this season..
Andy will take care of his spot next season. HAHAHA! Peace. :glee: :naughty:
the_shot
Sep 18, 2009, 10:52 AM
galing talaga ng ateneo
parokyano
Sep 18, 2009, 10:55 AM
Pasensiya na.. pero sa games na talo ang FEU sa UE and Ateneo.. lagi ko nasasabi na parang benta yung laro ni Barroca.
RougePercer
Sep 18, 2009, 11:22 AM
Baka nakita niyo si Norman Black sa FEU?
Kogure03
Sep 18, 2009, 02:04 PM
For the last 3 years Far Eastern University has been plagued by doubtful events involving key players. First it was Gerilla, who was unceremoniously cut from the team after suspicions of unscrupulous behavior were discovered.
Last year, it was the unfortunate and dastardly shooting of Mac Baracael that shocked the entire league. Up to today, nothing and no one has been even slightly uncovered anything regarding this criminal act.
Now the case of Andy Barroca, a player who was expected to tear up the league especially after his tremendous showing during the Smart Gilas games, is the talk of the the Final Four. As of today, Barroca is not even sure if he will suit up for the Tamaraws for their Final Four game against UE.
Allegedly, there were very strong suspicions that Barroca was deliberately playing below his usual level in the last FEU game against Ateneo. FEU needed to win by 5 points to secure the no. 1 slot in the standings. After 3 and 1/3 quarters, FEU was up by 18 but collapsed and saw Ateneo steal the game and the no. 1 spot from them.
Apparently, the play of Barroca elicited suspicion from the FEU Management and Coaching Staff. He scored only 8 points and his lackluster performance; especially in the 4th quarter was not something that the coaching staff felt was something that was normal behavior for Barrroca.
Is the suspicion justified? Is Barroca getting the short end of the stick here? Did he really tone down his game and allow Ateneo to catch up and eventually win the game?
In all this, I believe that Barroca is being treated unfairly. If there is no solid proof of the allegations, then the suspicion is not enough. All players have bad games and this could have just been the case with him. He has steered the Tamaraws to the longest winning streak of the season and I don’t think one game can change that.
Besides, Barroca was not alone on the team. Cawaling, Ramos, Cervantes and Garcia were also responsible for letting that 18 point lead slip away. Why put the blame solely of Andy Barroca?
If the allegations are true, then it is the responsibility of the FEU management and coaching staff to obtain undeniable proof and if that is obtained, then he should be punished to the full extent of the law. It is sad to note that FEU has not even had the slightest progress in the Baracael incident, which almost cost him his life.
However, if these are all just suspicions, FEU will be destroying the future of this young man. Barroca has a bright basketball future ahead of him. He showed his ability to play international competition with Smart Gilas. Even foreign coaches and players were extremely impressed with him. He has a definite lucrative PBA spot awaiting him. However, all this could be lost if FEU decides to take him out of the team based on suspicions alone.
In fairness to FEU, they still have not made a decision on the matter and there are heavy deliberations on the actions to be taken. This situation is not easy for FEU and they have to do this in a fair and sober manner. I am sure Mr. Anton Montinola will decide in a fair manner regading Andy Barroca.
If these are all suspicions, his reputation will be forever tarnished and will always bring doubts to any team that may want his services. His whole basketball career is now in the balance. It is common knowledge that players suit up for the UAAP and the NCAA with the goal of making basketball their career. They don’t go to school to be engineers or accountants but rather go to school to show their wares and eventually end up in the PBA.
If the allegations against Barroca are true then it stands to logic that the gambling syndicate would be behind it. If this is true, then Barroca is more a victim than a culprit. After what happened to Baracael last year, who allegedly did not want any part of the gambling syndicate, Barroca may have feared for his life too. If the gambling syndicates were behind it, then Barroca is not the problem but the entire league is to blame for allowing this open secret to keep thriving.
I have always liked Barroca and I honestly do not believe that he would involve himself in game fixing. I hope that the FEU Management and Coaching Staff handle this matter fairly, after all, the future of a young man with so much potential is at stake.
Renvoi
Sep 18, 2009, 02:16 PM
Well... there goes the ratings.
bluewing
Sep 18, 2009, 02:54 PM
Ateneo is partly to blame. Sobrang galing kasi ng Blue Eagles at sa sobrang tibay ng depensa, nasisira ang laro kahit ng mga star player ng kalaban. Napaghihinalaan tuloy. Dapat siguro harapin na lang ng team officials ang katotohanan na ubod nang galing ng Ateneo.
Pasensya na, Andy Barroca. Trabaho lang.
BMK
Sep 18, 2009, 10:22 PM
Mag-showbiz na lang iyang si Barroca tutal mukha naman siyang artista e.
U238
Sep 18, 2009, 11:01 PM
Ateneo is partly to blame. Sobrang galing kasi ng Blue Eagles at sa sobrang tibay ng depensa, nasisira ang laro kahit ng mga star player ng kalaban. Napaghihinalaan tuloy. Dapat siguro harapin na lang ng team officials ang katotohanan na ubod nang galing ng Ateneo.
Pasensya na, Andy Barroca. Trabaho lang.
Talaga lang ha? Ganito na lang, elaborate mo na lang sensibly kung papaano kayo natalo ng UP during the first round of eliminations para mas ma reinforce pa yang mga claims mo.
dannivince
Sep 18, 2009, 11:04 PM
For the last 3 years Far Eastern University has been plagued by doubtful events involving key players. First it was Gerilla, who was unceremoniously cut from the team after suspicions of unscrupulous behavior were discovered.
Last year, it was the unfortunate and dastardly shooting of Mac Baracael that shocked the entire league. Up to today, nothing and no one has been even slightly uncovered anything regarding this criminal act.
Now the case of Andy Barroca, a player who was expected to tear up the league especially after his tremendous showing during the Smart Gilas games, is the talk of the the Final Four. As of today, Barroca is not even sure if he will suit up for the Tamaraws for their Final Four game against UE.
Allegedly, there were very strong suspicions that Barroca was deliberately playing below his usual level in the last FEU game against Ateneo. FEU needed to win by 5 points to secure the no. 1 slot in the standings. After 3 and 1/3 quarters, FEU was up by 18 but collapsed and saw Ateneo steal the game and the no. 1 spot from them.
Apparently, the play of Barroca elicited suspicion from the FEU Management and Coaching Staff. He scored only 8 points and his lackluster performance; especially in the 4th quarter was not something that the coaching staff felt was something that was normal behavior for Barrroca.
Is the suspicion justified? Is Barroca getting the short end of the stick here? Did he really tone down his game and allow Ateneo to catch up and eventually win the game?
In all this, I believe that Barroca is being treated unfairly. If there is no solid proof of the allegations, then the suspicion is not enough. All players have bad games and this could have just been the case with him. He has steered the Tamaraws to the longest winning streak of the season and I don’t think one game can change that.
Besides, Barroca was not alone on the team. Cawaling, Ramos, Cervantes and Garcia were also responsible for letting that 18 point lead slip away. Why put the blame solely of Andy Barroca?
If the allegations are true, then it is the responsibility of the FEU management and coaching staff to obtain undeniable proof and if that is obtained, then he should be punished to the full extent of the law. It is sad to note that FEU has not even had the slightest progress in the Baracael incident, which almost cost him his life.
However, if these are all just suspicions, FEU will be destroying the future of this young man. Barroca has a bright basketball future ahead of him. He showed his ability to play international competition with Smart Gilas. Even foreign coaches and players were extremely impressed with him. He has a definite lucrative PBA spot awaiting him. However, all this could be lost if FEU decides to take him out of the team based on suspicions alone.
In fairness to FEU, they still have not made a decision on the matter and there are heavy deliberations on the actions to be taken. This situation is not easy for FEU and they have to do this in a fair and sober manner. I am sure Mr. Anton Montinola will decide in a fair manner regading Andy Barroca.
If these are all suspicions, his reputation will be forever tarnished and will always bring doubts to any team that may want his services. His whole basketball career is now in the balance. It is common knowledge that players suit up for the UAAP and the NCAA with the goal of making basketball their career. They don’t go to school to be engineers or accountants but rather go to school to show their wares and eventually end up in the PBA.
If the allegations against Barroca are true then it stands to logic that the gambling syndicate would be behind it. If this is true, then Barroca is more a victim than a culprit. After what happened to Baracael last year, who allegedly did not want any part of the gambling syndicate, Barroca may have feared for his life too. If the gambling syndicates were behind it, then Barroca is not the problem but the entire league is to blame for allowing this open secret to keep thriving.
I have always liked Barroca and I honestly do not believe that he would involve himself in game fixing. I hope that the FEU Management and Coaching Staff handle this matter fairly, after all, the future of a young man with so much potential is at stake.
I agree with you, i think barrocca was treated unfairly all because of that game against ateneo..I dont think he would ever involved himself in a game fixing syndicate FEU's management allegations and speculations are baseless and premature..
RuckuS
Sep 19, 2009, 12:02 AM
Talaga lang ha? Ganito na lang, elaborate mo na lang sensibly kung papaano kayo natalo ng UP during the first round of eliminations para mas ma reinforce pa yang mga claims mo.
eto. nakaCHAMBA UP. first round CHAMBA. second round .. DUROG UP. kung gugustuhin lang ni Norman Black pwede pa sana nya palakihin ng palakihin ang lamang to 40-50 points! kaso halos kakasimula pa lang ng 4th quarter pinasok na mga BANGKO. tama na daw, aminado na UP na sadyang swerte lang sila nung first round. naka isa lang di na naulit. :lol:
Sisiw
Sep 19, 2009, 01:55 AM
If these are all suspicions, his reputation will be forever tarnished and will always bring doubts to any team that may want his services. His whole basketball career is now in the balance. It is common knowledge that players suit up for the UAAP and the NCAA with the goal of making basketball their career. They don’t go to school to be engineers or accountants but rather go to school to show their wares and eventually end up in the PBA.
I don't think this argument holds water.
Take the case of Mike Cortez, accused by La Salle of throwing the finals against no other than their bitter rivals. He's now in the PBA.
Take the case of Bonbon Custodio, likewise accused of throwing their final 4 game against Ateneo. He's also in the PBA.
If the player is really good, these are just small stumbling blocks in their path to glory. This is where the gambling syndicates thrive. Many precedents have shown that it doesn't really matter. Throw a game in your collegiate career and the professionals will still look the other way and bring you in. Pay you big bucks so you won't throw games away again. Such is the moral deterioration in our society.
Kogure03
Sep 19, 2009, 02:33 AM
any latest? kung talagang maglalaro si BArroca..sayang **** papangit ang UAAP..mas maganda pag kumpleto recados ang mga players sa FINAL 4
technologica
Sep 19, 2009, 07:06 AM
If these are all suspicions, his reputation will be forever tarnished and will always bring doubts to any team that may want his services. His whole basketball career is now in the balance. It is common knowledge that players suit up for the UAAP and the NCAA with the goal of making basketball their career. They don’t go to school to be engineers or accountants but rather go to school to show their wares and eventually end up in the PBA.
I don't think this argument holds water.
Take the case of Mike Cortez, accused by La Salle of throwing the finals against no other than their bitter rivals. He's now in the PBA.
Take the case of Bonbon Custodio, likewise accused of throwing their final 4 game against Ateneo. He's also in the PBA.
If the player is really good, these are just small stumbling blocks in their path to glory. This is where the gambling syndicates thrive. Many precedents have shown that it doesn't really matter. Throw a game in your collegiate career and the professionals will still look the other way and bring you in. Pay you big bucks so you won't throw games away again. Such is the moral deterioration in our society.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Larry Legend
Sep 19, 2009, 07:26 AM
Take the case of Bonbon Custodio, likewise accused of throwing their final 4 game against Ateneo. He's also in the PBA.
Bro, correction lang. UST ang kalaban ng UE sa F4, hindi Ateneo, nung inaccuse ng game fixing si Bonbon. I remember he played miserably in the first game of that encounter and because of the suspicions, hindi na sya pinaglaro nung 2nd game. This was 2006.
Ateneo played against Adamson in the F4 for that year. Let's just get the facts straight, k?
Pound4Pound
Sep 19, 2009, 08:06 AM
Ateneo is partly to blame. Sobrang galing kasi ng Blue Eagles at sa sobrang tibay ng depensa, nasisira ang laro kahit ng mga star player ng kalaban. Napaghihinalaan tuloy. Dapat siguro harapin na lang ng team officials ang katotohanan na ubod nang galing ng Ateneo.
Pasensya na, Andy Barroca. Trabaho lang.
Wow.
Wow.
Woooowwww :lol:
da_don
Sep 19, 2009, 09:14 AM
Barroca still willing to play for FEU
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 05:08:00 09/19/2009
FAR EASTERN UNIVERSITY will not field top gunner Mark Barroca when the UAAP Final Four kicks off today, but the ace playmaker is still willing to don the Tamaraws jersey if school officials have a change of heart.
The Tamaraws put their attention back on court after a week rocked by intrigues in a bid to claim the first Finals slot versus a University of the East squad aiming to pounce on FEU’s troubles in their 3:30 p.m. showdown at the Araneta Coliseum.
“[Barroca’s status] will be resolved by game time,” said UAAP president and FEU team manager Anton Montinola, who will issue a statement today.
Team officials remained mum on the controversy that began when Barroca started skipping practices since Tuesday, but sources revealed that the Smart Gilas standout had been dropped from the team.
Barroca’s agent Ed Ponceja, in fact, clarified that the heady playmaker quit the squad—and even wanted to return to his home province in Zamboanga—after being advised that his services would no longer be needed in the Final Four.
But Ponceja added that the 5-foot-10 leading FEU scorer is still willing to suit up for his school should team officials need his services.
“If it’s good for the school, why not?” Ponceja said. “He won’t beg to be reinstated but if the team wants Mark back, he’ll gladly play.”
“He even told me, ‘I’m still a Tamaraw by blood.’”
At the heart of the controversy is a reported rift between FEU coach Glen Capacio and Barroca over the supposed dip in performance by the cager in the team’s last games, including in a crucial loss to Ateneo.
A well-placed source who Capacio is known to confide in revealed that in a meeting among team members, it was decided that the team would be better off without Barroca.
Ponceja said he knew of such a meeting but denied that the players were part of it.
“His teammates did not believe the allegations that were thrown at him,” Ponceja said. But when the cager was told that he would no longer be needed, his camp decided it was better to quit.
Ponceja said Barroca will “finish his studies” at FEU.
Too precious
UE coach Lawrence Chongson, however, said the Tamaraws’ indecisiveness “could be a ploy” aimed to catch his Warriors flat-footed.
The Tamaraws recorded a second-best 11-3 record to claim the twice-to-beat advantage, an incentive given to the top two teams in the eliminations.
“Honestly, I don’t believe that FEU could resist not playing Barroca,” said Chongson. “We prepared hard for an FEU team with Barroca. I will not allow their distraction to distract us. They’re neither a Catholic nor a disciplinary school in the first place and a UAAP championship is just too precious.”
Barroca leads his team in three departments—points (12.7 points per game), assists (2.7 apg) and steals (1.6 spg).
“Offense alone cannot bring us to the championship,” said Capacio. “We have to improve our execution down the stretch.”
FEU and UE split their elimination encounters with the Tamaraws prevailing in their Aug. 9 meeting with a slim 76-72 triumph, before the Warriors avenged it with an emphatic 87-72 victory last Aug. 23.
http://sports.inquirer.net/collegiate/collegiate/view/20090919-225956/Im-a-Tamaraw-by-blood
parokyano
Sep 19, 2009, 09:37 AM
Ibalik si Barroca.. bigyan siya ng tsansa na mapatunayan na mali yung mga balitang nagbebenta siya ng laro.. kahit ako aminado ako na parang may kakaiba sa laro niya.. hindi lang sa talo nila sa Ateneo nitong 2nd round ito nagsimula.
Hindi sa pinag bibintangan ko agad siya.. pero nakakaduda naman lang na ang isang napaka galing na player gaya niya eh ilang games na masama ang inilalaro sa UAAP. Tough ang competition sa UAAP, pero madami din siya pinag daanan na mahihirap na kalaban sa PBL and sa paglalaro niya para sa Smart Gilas. SI Barroca na kahit pinapahirapan eh umiiskor pa ng 24 points to 30 points sa PBL and Smart Gilas eh nag sstruggle sa loob yata ng last 5-6 games ng FEU. And kasama siya ni Capacio sa Oracle sa PBL, alam na alam ni Capacio ang kalidad ng isang Mark Barocca.
USTinian_Pride
Sep 19, 2009, 10:10 AM
I think Mark will be a great salesman...what do you think?
Bahay_Kubo
Sep 19, 2009, 11:14 AM
malala na ang problemang dinadala ng sindikato sa UAAP at sa NCAA. kung totoo man ang allegations against Barroca, hindi siya ang huling player na bibiktimahin ng sindikato.
huwag lang mga players ang tingnan natin. may din ilang coaches, team officials at league officials na siguradong may "koneskyon" din sa sindikato. talaga lang nakakalungkot na pera-pera na lang ang usapan ngayon. :(
eggboy
Sep 19, 2009, 11:26 AM
madami ata sa feu players ang kakaiba pinapakita. one example eh *** laban nila sa UE ng 2nd round... ndi sila gumagamit ng shot clock, basta bitaw ng lang ng bitaw sa tres. nakakapagtaka si paul sanga hindi maka-shoot pero sya palagi binibigyan bola para tumira. nakita nyo naman performance nya against ateneo last time, ibang-iba.
vacker
Sep 19, 2009, 11:40 AM
better check if he owns any pldt shares?! :rotflmao:
YabutLover
Sep 19, 2009, 12:58 PM
Hope Buenafe doesnt quit the team too. He has been holding back his game and napapansin na po ito ng team niya.
Bahay_Kubo
Sep 19, 2009, 01:10 PM
Hope Buenafe doesnt quit the team too. He has been holding back his game and napapansin na po ito ng team niya.
i hope Ateneo fans would give Buenafe some slack. sa tingin ko kasi, sophomore jinx lang talaga yung nararanasan nung bata ngayon.
luiboowee
Sep 19, 2009, 01:18 PM
In fairness to Barocca may agent siya, naks! :lol:
eggboy
Sep 19, 2009, 02:49 PM
girlfriend nga meron eh, agent pa... hehe
tiger_roar02
Sep 19, 2009, 07:22 PM
sayang.. kawalan si barocca..
it really showed kanina sa laban ng feu vs ue..
sana may taga feu na magstandout kung kailan final four na oh..
.baka ue - admu sa finals ah..
treborhon
Sep 19, 2009, 08:25 PM
"Barroca will not return" - FEU officials
Far Eastern University will not let its star guard Mark Barroca suit up for the team anymore.
School officials, led by team manager Anton Montinola and athletic director Mark Molina, confirmed Barroca immediately after the Tamaraws' 84-74 loss to University of the East in the Final Four that Barroca will not anymore play for the Tamaraws.
"No. He won't play," said Montinola. "We stand by our decision and if this is our fate we will accept it."
Molina confirmed news reports earlier that Barroca is now under the care of the Smart Gilas team where the 5-10 guard starred for the team handled by Serbian mentor Rajko Toroman.
"He probably won't be playing for the FEU Tamaraws anymore," said Molina. "He will still be a student, scholarship will remain until he finishes his studies."
"He is now with the Smart Gilas organization," Molina added. "He has been with them a couple of days ago."
Team members expressed dismay with regards to Barroca's performance which led to a decision to remove him from the team.
"Members of the team expressed dissatisfaction with his play so we spoke with the team and then a decision was made," said Molina.
Barroca averaged 12.7 points, 5.1 rebounds and 2.7 assists and 1.6 steals in 14 games this season as he led the Morayta-based squad to an 11-3 record, good for second-best in the standings.
Without the wily guard, the Tamaraws failed to nail the first finals berth as Paul Lee erupted for 26 points off six triples as UE force a rubber match on Thursday at the Araneta Coliseum.
thomasianCPA09
Sep 19, 2009, 10:29 PM
papa B!mamimiss kita!
dannivince
Sep 19, 2009, 11:04 PM
FEU couldve used barocca to stop paul lee....hay...
illumina
Sep 20, 2009, 07:01 AM
So sorry to hear Barroca being treated this way by his own school. I hope he can do great things with Smart Gilas.
i hope Ateneo fans would give Buenafe some slack. sa tingin ko kasi, sophomore jinx lang talaga yung nararanasan nung bata ngayon.
You say "sophomore jinx"; I say "bigger picture". That ought to be forgiving enough. :)
gonefishing
Sep 20, 2009, 07:49 AM
sino ba idol daw ni Barroca? si Willie Miller ba?:rotflmao:
spikeman_27
Sep 20, 2009, 09:42 AM
"Barroca will not return" - FEU officials
Far Eastern University will not let its star guard Mark Barroca suit up for the team anymore.
School officials, led by team manager Anton Montinola and athletic director Mark Molina, confirmed Barroca immediately after the Tamaraws' 84-74 loss to University of the East in the Final Four that Barroca will not anymore play for the Tamaraws.
"No. He won't play," said Montinola. "We stand by our decision and if this is our fate we will accept it."
Molina confirmed news reports earlier that Barroca is now under the care of the Smart Gilas team where the 5-10 guard starred for the team handled by Serbian mentor Rajko Toroman.
"He probably won't be playing for the FEU Tamaraws anymore," said Molina. "He will still be a student, scholarship will remain until he finishes his studies."
"He is now with the Smart Gilas organization," Molina added. "He has been with them a couple of days ago."
Team members expressed dismay with regards to Barroca's performance which led to a decision to remove him from the team.
"Members of the team expressed dissatisfaction with his play so we spoke with the team and then a decision was made," said Molina.
Barroca averaged 12.7 points, 5.1 rebounds and 2.7 assists and 1.6 steals in 14 games this season as he led the Morayta-based squad to an 11-3 record, good for second-best in the standings.
Without the wily guard, the Tamaraws failed to nail the first finals berth as Paul Lee erupted for 26 points off six triples as UE force a rubber match on Thursday at the Araneta Coliseum.
OMG, ano ng mang yayari sa FEU niyan they can Kiss goodbye na sa panagarap nila pag di nila binalik sa FUE team ang captainball nila. isa pa hindi ba mag kakasama sila sa smart gilas team ng mga Co-captain niya sa feu? di mag kakaroon ng lamat ang samahan nila dun? pero kung totoo yung ginawa ni barroca isa lang masasabi ko, sinira mo ang buhay mo at sinira mo ang mga pangarap ng mga ka team mo at ng FEU Community.
crusader1
Sep 20, 2009, 10:41 AM
In my opinion, FEU management resorted to this drastic measure only because they had a profound and serious reason behind it. Indeed it is a shame if game fixing has something to do with it. It's high time that the UAAP board go down to brass tacks and investigate this blight that's threatening to destroy the game in the league.
-jake-
Sep 20, 2009, 12:21 PM
baka si dylan ababou naman ang magkamalan na nag-game fix later when they face ateneo :rotflmao:
sino kaya susunod? paul lee (if ever they will enter the finals and face ateneo)? :rotflmao:
oh mga bitter lasal fans, pagkakataon nyo nang mag-ingay! bwahahahaha! :rotflmao:
animo_92
Sep 20, 2009, 01:45 PM
ano naman ang kinalaman ng la salle fans dito? :rolleyes:
-jake-
Sep 20, 2009, 02:02 PM
ano naman ang kinalaman ng la salle fans dito? :rolleyes:
^^ tinatanong pa ba yan?:rotflmao:
sonicsid
Sep 20, 2009, 02:16 PM
ano naman ang kinalaman ng la salle fans dito? :rolleyes:
wala lang paps.. gusto lang niya idrag ang lasalle sa issue ni barroca.
vacker
Sep 20, 2009, 03:19 PM
^ eh pano ba naman ang main benefactor nila ay nasa news ngayon!
if he can allegedly bribe a president, he can bribe anybody, di ba? okay bang hirit yan jake? :rotflmao:
Arrowstorm
Sep 20, 2009, 03:48 PM
benefactor din ni andy si mvp kc nasa smart gilas siya!
okay din hirit yan! *okay*
Hindsight
Sep 20, 2009, 04:04 PM
Sunday, September 20, 2009
More of my thoughts on the FEU-Barroca incident
When I was watching the FEU-UE Final Four match yesterday, I felt bad. Not just for Mark Barroca but the team, its coaches, management, and it's students. I'm friends with many of them and it gives me no pleasure to take shots at them. I disagree with many of their policies and it's nothing personal. I thought they were tentative early on. They came back but come crunch time you could see how different they were. What -- if they play bad or commit an error benta na?
Hearing Anton Montinola and Mark Molina yesterday, I felt even worse. Yes, they were hurt. Double whammy because their team lost. And that gives no one pleasure save for UE or the other teams because on a pure basketball sense, it's not their problem. But go beyond that there's more to life than basketball.
I blame FEU for mishandling things. They handled it poorly. If they think that the players all blame Andy then what do you want them to say? Not presenting a united front will see them off on a one way ticket out of Morayta. I spoke with two of them yesterday and they were so nervous. They kept turning their heads looking around if anyone saw them talking. I understood and released them And will not quote them even anonymously.
About a dozen FEU students spoke with me after the game with some at the South Gate as I chatted with Mac Baracael. Everyone one of the don't believe the allegations. Some are classmates and see him all the time. Of course we don't know what people are up to 24/7. But still...
As he left the FEU campus for the last time picked up by three people, he sobbed long and hard into the night. His mother was right, he said. He should have never gone to Manila. But when you're upset you tend to say things that we don't mean, half mean, or really mean. He found his place in Manila and is ready to get back on track.
He will join the Smart Gilas team when they leave for Singapore to play the Singapore Slingers in an exhibition match. His teammates on the national team are giving him space and they don't talk about it. They'd rather talk about more pleasant things. But clearly, they can't wait to get back on court.
Some asked me if I thought that management was covering up shortcomings. I said I don't think so. I think that they have been paranoid about a lot of things. I don't think they engage in anything unlawful and rather than look at the flaws in their system they are quick to blame.
I blame the UAAP too for this. Its officials talk amongst themselves na si ganito benta, si ganyan benta. Alam niyo naman pala eh so why aren't you doing anything about it?
The obsession to win has made schools resort to unscrupulous practices where certain people are absolved of any blame. Pity Bader Malabes who packed his bags and left for Bahrain. I never liked him as a player but I certainly don't think he deserved the kind of treatment he got from different quarters considering he helped give their school a championship. And the same with many of his teammates who are at a crossroads as what to do and where to go. They are out of the spotlight now because of this incident between Mark Barroca and FEU.
On a basketball level, I don't give a crap because the signs are clear, you suck and they take it out on you. So who wants to play for someone who blames you for a loss? Keep it going I say and send your players to us. We're more than happy to accommodate them. But this goes beyond basketball and if we stop the yelling and taunting, we should realize that many of them are kids so much younger than you and me. Kids or young adults who have been thrust into the cold and real world that exists outside their school.
There are no winners here. We're only losers in different ways.
Posted by Rick Olivares in Bleacher's Brew
animo24
Sep 20, 2009, 04:16 PM
Nadamay na naman ang DLSU sa blog ni RO. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
guessst
Sep 20, 2009, 05:58 PM
Ibalik si Barroca.. bigyan siya ng tsansa na mapatunayan na mali yung mga balitang nagbebenta siya ng laro.. kahit ako aminado ako na parang may kakaiba sa laro niya.. hindi lang sa talo nila sa Ateneo nitong 2nd round ito nagsimula.
Hindi sa pinag bibintangan ko agad siya.. pero nakakaduda naman lang na ang isang napaka galing na player gaya niya eh ilang games na masama ang inilalaro sa UAAP. Tough ang competition sa UAAP, pero madami din siya pinag daanan na mahihirap na kalaban sa PBL and sa paglalaro niya para sa Smart Gilas. SI Barroca na kahit pinapahirapan eh umiiskor pa ng 24 points to 30 points sa PBL and Smart Gilas eh nag sstruggle sa loob yata ng last 5-6 games ng FEU. And kasama siya ni Capacio sa Oracle sa PBL, alam na alam ni Capacio ang kalidad ng isang Mark Barocca.
agree ako sayo pre...
-jake-
Sep 20, 2009, 09:10 PM
^ eh pano ba naman ang main benefactor nila ay nasa news ngayon!
if he can allegedly bribe a president, he can bribe anybody, di ba? okay bang hirit yan jake? :rotflmao:
sa totoo lang binayaran ni mr.mvp si mark barroca nang 10million DOLLARS! hindi pesos ha! binigyan rin siya nang isang luxury car ni mr.mvp...di ko lang natanong si mr.mvp kung ano brand ng kotse :rotflmao:
bagtitako
Sep 20, 2009, 09:41 PM
For me its Glenn Capacio covering his a$$ and that 18-point lead blunder was his own doing that just rippled to the team and now they blame Barroca?
We are at the end stage of the season and you have been scouted at least 10 games already and if you dont adjust these teams will figure you out and create defensive schemes to your sets and go-to players so its up to you to react and revise certain aspects of your game.
Now they point a finger and brun bridges with people.:angry:
tamarawz_14
Sep 20, 2009, 10:58 PM
montinola and molina sucks!!!! hanggang nandyan yung dalawa sa FEU walang magandang mangyayari sa FEU...
Sisiw
Sep 20, 2009, 11:09 PM
montinola and molina sucks!!!! hanggang nandyan yung dalawa sa FEU walang magandang mangyayari sa FEU...
Both are from Ateneo. Go figure!!
walk810
Sep 20, 2009, 11:50 PM
i found this article done by tj manotoc:
Marc Barroca’s Official Statement – according to DZSR 918 Sports Radio
Got this tweet from @donbonscoforum as he Re-Tweeted the release from @hoopstalk918 which i know is a radio sports talk show on Sports Radio 918am. I’ll take it as it is as I have worked with DZSR before and they are a highly credible organization.
So here is Marc Barroca’s Official Statement verbatim -
AKO PO AY LUBOS NA NALULUNKOT SAPAGKAT HINDI NA AKO MAKAKAPAGLARO SA FEU AT SA UAAP, GANOON PA MAN, NIRERESPETO KO PA ANG DESISYON NG FEU PARA SA SABI PO NILANG KAPAKANAN NG TEAM AT NG UNIBERSIDAD. NAIS KO LANG PO NA MALAMAN NG LAHAT NA MALINIS ANG KONSYENSA KO AT WALA PO AKONG ALAM NA MALING GINAWA ETO PO ANG AKING MENSAHE
1. SA AKING MAHAL NA CAOCH AT MINAMAHAL NA TEAMATES, KUNG DI KO NAABOT ANG ANG INAASHAN NINYO SA AKIN
2. KAY SIR ANTON AT SA FEU, BIGYAN NYO PO AKO NG PAGKAKATAON TAPUSIN ANG AKING PAG-AARAL SA FEU BILANG SKOLAR, DAHIL ITO PO ANG AKING BANAL NA PANGAKO SA AKIN INA NUNG AKO PO AY LUMISAN SA ZAMOBANGA PARA MAKIPAGSAPALARAN SA MAYNILA.
3. SA SBP, BIGYAN NYO PO DIN AKO NG PAGKAKATAON NA MAGLARO SA SMART GILAS PILIPINAS PARA MAKAPAG-SILBI SA BAYAN. ITO LANG PO ANG AKING NINANAIS NGAYON AT SANA WAG NAMAN AKO PIGILAN NINO MAN.
4. GOODLUCK AT PRAYERS PO SA FEU SA NA IBINIGAY SA AKIN NG FEU NA MAKAPAGLARO SA UAAP, BILANG PAGTATAPOS, AKO PO AY 23 GULANG LAMAN, BUT I WILL AND MUST MOVE ON. MATATAG NAMAN ANG AKING KALOOBAN NGAYON, AT NANINIWAL AKO SA PAGSUBOK NA ITO AY MAGIGING MAS MABUTI AKONG PLAYER. HINDI PO AKO AAYAW, HINDI PO AKO TITIGIL MAG-SUMIKAP – MARC BARROCA
If you read into this, one would look at the guts of this kid to insist on finishing his studies at FEU. Would a guy who is guilty major wrongdoing have the guts and the face to still go to school and face ridicule? that up to you all to decide, to each his own interpretation with this situation.
I just want to share also this reply i got from someone who says knew Marc growing up in Zamboanga, you feel for his family now.
from clie -
hi , i am sad that one of my kababayan from zamboanga is in hot seat, i just want to share this short history how he learned basketball, Andy Barroca started as a running athlete, he is my kuyas playmate in our local barangay ,they use to laugh on how he plays kasi he is old na, when he learned playing hoops…Anyway according to my kuya it was his ability to run fast and eagerness to learn the game. Andy played in a muddy hoops area , until 12 noon.Just shooting, and learning. until he was discovered…It sad to know with all his efforts, to be in the league controversies arised.
His friends from ayala zamboanga city, his side car bicycle friends .Wearing his jersey…
This is another tale of , loss in the Uaap.
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All of you can judge all you want either way, you are all entitled to that. As for me, i still need to see solid evidence either way to give my full opinion on the matter.
For now what we know for sure is Barroca will no longer play for FEU. Period
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you can check his site: http://tjmanotoc.wordpress.com/2009/09/20/marc-barrocas-official-statement-according-to-dzsr-918-sports-radio/
vincent_06
Sep 21, 2009, 03:38 AM
From inquirer.net (http://sports.inquirer.net/collegiate/collegiate/view/20090921-226160/Barocca-My-conscience-is-clear):
Barocca: My conscience is clear
By Cedelf P. Tupas, Jasmine W. Payo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 00:16:00 09/21/2009
THE FRUSTRATION was palpable from his words and even from his physical appearance.
Ace playmaker Mark Barroca, at the center of controversy following the decision of Far Eastern University to drop him from its UAAP roster for good, yesterday broke his silence and denied any wrongdoing that led to his ouster from the Tamaraws’ fold.
“My conscience is clear,” Barroca told the Inquirer in Filipino shortly after playing a tuneup game for the Smart Gilas national developmental pool at the PhilSports Arena.
The 23-year-old Barroca said he is ready to leave the controversy behind and finish his sports management degree at FEU, and is unconcerned about the reaction he might get at the Morayta campus.
“Whatever people will say I will not be ashamed because my conscience is clear,” he added.
He admitted being hurt by the decision of the team, but said he has accepted his fate, even if, through his agent, he said he had hoped to be recalled to the squad, claiming he was still “a Tamaraw by blood.”
“I respect the decision of FEU,” said the heady playmaker.
The Zamboanga-born standout, however, admitted he felt offended that his poor statistics in his recent games were made the basis of his removal from the team.
“Do the stats reflect who the person really is? Don’t they see the other things I do on court?” he asked.
Barroca appeared a gaunt figure, a result, he said, of the sleepless nights caused by the burning controversy.
He said he couldn’t help but break down as he watched the Tamaraws lose to the University of the East Warriors that sent their Final Four showdown into a rubber match.
“I was crying yesterday because we lost,” he recalled. “I was emotional about it. I felt they were distracted. Regardless of what other people might say, it’s still my team. I worked hard there.”
Later on, in a statement issued to the press, Barroca also expressed gratitude to FEU team manager Anton Montinola for allowing him to finish his studies in the university as a scholar, which he said was the promise he made to his mother when he left Zamboanga.
Barroca said he wouldn’t be the player he is now if FEU didn’t give him a break.
“There is no Mark Barroca now if not for FEU,” the statement read.
“My fighting spirit is strong and I believe I will come out of this a better player. I will not give up. I will continue to work hard.”
Barroca said he would focus now on the Smart Gilas developmental team, a squad tasked to land a berth in the 2012 Olympics in London.
“To the SBP, give me a chance to play for Smart Gilas and serve the country. This is my mission and I hope no one will stop me,” he said.
EcKo_01
Sep 21, 2009, 04:36 AM
Pansin ko lang ah. Parang everytime na lang na may may allegations ng game fixing sa isang player, ateneo is always linked with it.
Hmm...
borlog_bear
Sep 21, 2009, 08:00 AM
thank you, mark barroca, for your courage to face the entire school after what has happened. the situation you are in is devastating and will scare the hell out of anybody with less guts than you possess. i was really sad when i heard the news and when i didn't see you play against UE.
keep your head up, keep on being brave. allow me to quote sir winston churchill: "of you are going through hell, keep going." there are better things for you out there.
you make me proud to be a tamaraw. mabuhay ka.
sana naman my alma mater provides more details about what has happened. i think barroca and others like myself deserve that. it puts the school in a bad light.
paddylast
Sep 21, 2009, 08:05 AM
inevitable na talaga ang game fixing lalo na't "school pride" kuno ang nakataya...nakakabwisit lang kasi aalisin ang mga "involved" sa high time ng laban kung kelan mo sila kelangan na kelangan...tsk tsk tsk
dagzilicious
Sep 21, 2009, 08:56 AM
Paging JR Cawaling :bop:
naramdaman niyo ba presence nitong taong to buong season?? :rolleyes:
parokyano
Sep 21, 2009, 09:40 AM
montinola and molina sucks!!!! hanggang nandyan yung dalawa sa FEU walang magandang mangyayari sa FEU...
How bout yung 3 straight championships nila from 2003-2005? And yung isa pa dun galing sa Ateneo.
And about JR Cawalang.. choker lang talaga yung mama.. kulang sa puso eh.
print_screen
Sep 21, 2009, 10:09 AM
sana sa championship na lang siya tanggalin. kailangan natin si Barocca sa do-or-die! :(
IamGreen316
Sep 21, 2009, 11:06 AM
To be fair to FEU, what else is there for them to do? If the coaches, managers and/or players themselves, even think (no matter how wrongly) that Barroca is 'not performing up to par', it would be a disaster on their part to field him in the game. Why would they send in a player that somewhere deep in their minds, may be 'selling out'? Because if he plays well, then people will say, "See, he can play well when he wants to" or if he plays lousy, "Benta na naman!" In short, to all parties involved, this is a LOSE-LOSE situation but more specially to Barroca. What would you do if you were with the FEU team?
So, no matter what, both Barroca and FEU lose out in this rumor-filled environment.
bluewing
Sep 21, 2009, 11:29 AM
Talaga lang ha? Ganito na lang, elaborate mo na lang sensibly kung papaano kayo natalo ng UP during the first round of eliminations para mas ma reinforce pa yang mga claims mo.
simple lang. sa larangan ng sports o palakasan, may mga tinatawag tayong mga "upset" or "freak losses" paminsan-minsan. kasama na yan sa realidad ng laro. isa pa, mayroon ding kasabihan na "shi+ happens." yun lang yon. kahit nga si jordan natatalo. and UP's win over the Champs, with their 90 % shooting in the 4th quarter and their ridiculous last-second 3-point bombs, certainly qualifies as a freak win (for UP) and a freak loss to Ateneo. ganun lang ka-simple. walang kailangang i-analyze. at the end of the day, the best pa rin ang Ateneo at nasa tuktok pa rin sila ng standings. UBOD NANG GALING.
bluewing
Sep 21, 2009, 11:33 AM
Hope Buenafe doesnt quit the team too. He has been holding back his game and napapansin na po ito ng team niya.
mapapansin talaga nila yon. yun ang utos ni coach e.
IamGreen316
Sep 21, 2009, 11:34 AM
simple lang. sa larangan ng sports o palakasan, may mga tinatawag tayong mga "upset" or "freak losses" paminsan-minsan. kasama na yan sa realidad ng laro. isa pa, mayroon ding kasabihan na "shi+ happens." yun lang yon. kahit nga si jordan natatalo. and UP's win over the Champs, with their 90 % shooting in the 4th quarter and their ridiculous last-second 3-point bombs, certainly qualifies as a freak win (for UP) and a freak loss to Ateneo. ganun lang ka-simple. walang kailangang i-analyze. at the end of the day, the best pa rin ang Ateneo at nasa tuktok pa rin sila ng standings. UBOD NANG GALING.
For now.. But everybody would love to see if Ateneo could bag back to back title. Because I know DLSU did it before.
paddylast
Sep 21, 2009, 12:03 PM
guys eto na yung statement ni Barocca... kawawa naman...tsk
Got this tweet from @donbonscoforum as he Re-Tweeted the release from @hoopstalk918 which i know is a radio sports talk show on Sports Radio 918am. I’ll take it as it is as I have worked with DZSR before and they are a highly credible organization.
So here is Marc Barroca’s Official Statement verbatim -
AKO PO AY LUBOS NA NALULUNKOT SAPAGKAT HINDI NA AKO MAKAKAPAGLARO SA FEU AT SA UAAP, GANOON PA MAN, NIRERESPETO KO PA ANG DESISYON NG FEU PARA SA SABI PO NILANG KAPAKANAN NG TEAM AT NG UNIBERSIDAD. NAIS KO LANG PO NA MALAMAN NG LAHAT NA MALINIS ANG KONSYENSA KO AT WALA PO AKONG ALAM NA MALING GINAWA ETO PO ANG AKING MENSAHE
1. SA AKING MAHAL NA CAOCH AT MINAMAHAL NA TEAMATES, KUNG DI KO NAABOT ANG ANG INAASHAN NINYO SA AKIN
2. KAY SIR ANTON AT SA FEU, BIGYAN NYO PO AKO NG PAGKAKATAON TAPUSIN ANG AKING PAG-AARAL SA FEU BILANG SKOLAR, DAHIL ITO PO ANG AKING BANAL NA PANGAKO SA AKIN INA NUNG AKO PO AY LUMISAN SA ZAMOBANGA PARA MAKIPAGSAPALARAN SA MAYNILA.
3. SA SBP, BIGYAN NYO PO DIN AKO NG PAGKAKATAON NA MAGLARO SA SMART GILAS PILIPINAS PARA MAKAPAG-SILBI SA BAYAN. ITO LANG PO ANG AKING NINANAIS NGAYON AT SANA WAG NAMAN AKO PIGILAN NINO MAN.
4. GOODLUCK AT PRAYERS PO SA FEU SA NA IBINIGAY SA AKIN NG FEU NA MAKAPAGLARO SA UAAP, BILANG PAGTATAPOS, AKO PO AY 23 GULANG LAMAN, BUT I WILL AND MUST MOVE ON. MATATAG NAMAN ANG AKING KALOOBAN NGAYON, AT NANINIWAL AKO SA PAGSUBOK NA ITO AY MAGIGING MAS MABUTI AKONG PLAYER. HINDI PO AKO AAYAW, HINDI PO AKO TITIGIL MAG-SUMIKAP – MARC BARROCA
If you read into this, one would look at the guts of this kid to insist on finishing his studies at FEU. Would a guy who is guilty major wrongdoing have the guts and the face to still go to school and face ridicule? that up to you all to decide, to each his own interpretation with this situation.
I just want to share also this reply i got from someone who says knew Marc growing up in Zamboanga, you feel for his family now.
from clie -
hi , i am sad that one of my kababayan from zamboanga is in hot seat, i just want to share this short history how he learned basketball, Andy Barroca started as a running athlete, he is my kuyas playmate in our local barangay ,they use to laugh on how he plays kasi he is old na, when he learned playing hoops…Anyway according to my kuya it was his ability to run fast and eagerness to learn the game. Andy played in a muddy hoops area , until 12 noon.Just shooting, and learning. until he was discovered…It sad to know with all his efforts, to be in the league controversies arised.
His friends from ayala zamboanga city, his side car bicycle friends .Wearing his jersey…
This is another tale of , loss in the Uaap.
courtesy of TJ Manotoc's Blog.
jtas
Sep 21, 2009, 12:54 PM
kahit ganun nangyari sa kanya proud pa rin syang sabihin na tamaraw by blood sya.. now paano mo sasabihin na game fixing sya? bat si cawaling ang pangit ng laro whole season bat sya di pinagdudahan??
Gospel of Judas
Sep 21, 2009, 01:23 PM
one bad game lang aakusahan mo na ng benta si barroca? kasalanan ito ni montinola at ni molina. di binigyan ng benefit of the doubt si mark andy. pinaka-idol ko pa naman ito sa mga non-la salle players dahil magaling at hindi mayabang. ngayon papagbintangan lang ng game fixing dahil sa hindi sya naka-deliver nung 4th quarter.
oo nga si cawaling di nag-live up sa expectations pero di naman syang inaakusahan na benta. si bader malabes... well ibang istorya dahil talaga namang ubod sya ng bano :rotflmao:
X-wind
Sep 21, 2009, 01:36 PM
one bad game lang aakusahan mo na ng benta si barroca? kasalanan ito ni montinola at ni molina. di binigyan ng benefit of the doubt si mark andy. pinaka-idol ko pa naman ito sa mga non-la salle players dahil magaling at hindi mayabang. ngayon papagbintangan lang ng game fixing dahil sa hindi sya naka-deliver nung 4th quarter.
oo nga si cawaling di nag-live up sa expectations pero di naman syang inaakusahan na benta. si bader malabes... well ibang istorya dahil talaga namang ubod sya ng bano :rotflmao:
magaling kaya si bader :lol: 6th man ng kalaban ng dlsu :rotfl:
UnoSuplado
Sep 21, 2009, 01:38 PM
guys, what if we start an online petition to recall barroca to the team? the feu administration may still change their minds.
Gospel of Judas
Sep 21, 2009, 01:42 PM
guys, what if we start an online petition to recall barroca to the team? the feu administration may still change their minds.
it's not that easy and if the petition doesn't make it by thursday it will be utterly useless.
pero if you're thinking next year and beyond... pwede.
nash_bedista
Sep 21, 2009, 01:48 PM
magaling kaya si bader :lol: 6th man ng kalaban ng dlsu :rotfl:
kasama na si ferdinand, balita lang idol, umalis na daw sila sa team dahil sa game-fixing issue...
UnoSuplado
Sep 21, 2009, 01:52 PM
it's not that easy and if the petition doesn't make it by thursday it will be utterly useless.
pero if you're thinking next year and beyond... pwede.
you are so true my friend but i hope the remaining days before the rubber match is still enough for this.
spikeman_27
Sep 21, 2009, 02:43 PM
what's next para sa FEu?! wala !!!
sino ba next year recruit nila? sana naman mapunan ang naiwan niya.:grrr::grrr::grrr::grrr:
toji8
Sep 21, 2009, 03:14 PM
kunin na nila si Terrence Romeo! hehe
CaptainCharisma
Sep 21, 2009, 03:53 PM
pumanget ang laro ng FEU nung mawala si Papa Andy, no pun intended
vacker
Sep 21, 2009, 04:43 PM
sa totoo lang binayaran ni mr.mvp si mark barroca nang 10million DOLLARS! hindi pesos ha! binigyan rin siya nang isang luxury car ni mr.mvp...di ko lang natanong si mr.mvp kung ano brand ng kotse :rotflmao:
uy, trying to use sarcasm to deflect the real issue as usual ha?! style mo bulok!
no matter what you say, your main patron/benefactor's tarnished image will always haunt you as well! you can't escape it!! :rotflmao:
hypocrites always pay for their lies! it's payback time! :rotflmao:
tyrone13
Sep 21, 2009, 05:58 PM
bakit kc si papa andy pa ang kailangan mawala! :mecry:
gaLj
Sep 21, 2009, 06:09 PM
bakit kc si papa andy pa ang kailangan mawala! :mecry:
oo nga :mecry:, kala ko pa naman pasok na kami sa finals *****, malaking kawalan talaga si Andy Merk
tamz_online
Sep 21, 2009, 06:56 PM
guys eto na yung statement ni Barocca... kawawa naman...tsk
Got this tweet from @donbonscoforum as he Re-Tweeted the release from @hoopstalk918 which i know is a radio sports talk show on Sports Radio 918am. I’ll take it as it is as I have worked with DZSR before and they are a highly credible organization.
So here is Marc Barroca’s Official Statement verbatim -
AKO PO AY LUBOS NA NALULUNKOT SAPAGKAT HINDI NA AKO MAKAKAPAGLARO SA FEU AT SA UAAP, GANOON PA MAN, NIRERESPETO KO PA ANG DESISYON NG FEU PARA SA SABI PO NILANG KAPAKANAN NG TEAM AT NG UNIBERSIDAD. NAIS KO LANG PO NA MALAMAN NG LAHAT NA MALINIS ANG KONSYENSA KO AT WALA PO AKONG ALAM NA MALING GINAWA ETO PO ANG AKING MENSAHE
1. SA AKING MAHAL NA CAOCH AT MINAMAHAL NA TEAMATES, KUNG DI KO NAABOT ANG ANG INAASHAN NINYO SA AKIN
2. KAY SIR ANTON AT SA FEU, BIGYAN NYO PO AKO NG PAGKAKATAON TAPUSIN ANG AKING PAG-AARAL SA FEU BILANG SKOLAR, DAHIL ITO PO ANG AKING BANAL NA PANGAKO SA AKIN INA NUNG AKO PO AY LUMISAN SA ZAMOBANGA PARA MAKIPAGSAPALARAN SA MAYNILA.
3. SA SBP, BIGYAN NYO PO DIN AKO NG PAGKAKATAON NA MAGLARO SA SMART GILAS PILIPINAS PARA MAKAPAG-SILBI SA BAYAN. ITO LANG PO ANG AKING NINANAIS NGAYON AT SANA WAG NAMAN AKO PIGILAN NINO MAN.
4. GOODLUCK AT PRAYERS PO SA FEU SA NA IBINIGAY SA AKIN NG FEU NA MAKAPAGLARO SA UAAP, BILANG PAGTATAPOS, AKO PO AY 23 GULANG LAMAN, BUT I WILL AND MUST MOVE ON. MATATAG NAMAN ANG AKING KALOOBAN NGAYON, AT NANINIWAL AKO SA PAGSUBOK NA ITO AY MAGIGING MAS MABUTI AKONG PLAYER. HINDI PO AKO AAYAW, HINDI PO AKO TITIGIL MAG-SUMIKAP – MARC BARROCA
If you read into this, one would look at the guts of this kid to insist on finishing his studies at FEU. Would a guy who is guilty major wrongdoing have the guts and the face to still go to school and face ridicule? that up to you all to decide, to each his own interpretation with this situation.
I just want to share also this reply i got from someone who says knew Marc growing up in Zamboanga, you feel for his family now.
from clie -
hi , i am sad that one of my kababayan from zamboanga is in hot seat, i just want to share this short history how he learned basketball, Andy Barroca started as a running athlete, he is my kuyas playmate in our local barangay ,they use to laugh on how he plays kasi he is old na, when he learned playing hoops…Anyway according to my kuya it was his ability to run fast and eagerness to learn the game. Andy played in a muddy hoops area , until 12 noon.Just shooting, and learning. until he was discovered…It sad to know with all his efforts, to be in the league controversies arised.
His friends from ayala zamboanga city, his side car bicycle friends .Wearing his jersey…
This is another tale of , loss in the Uaap.
courtesy of TJ Manotoc's Blog.
:mecry::mecry::mecry: nalulungkot talaga ako. gusto ko sugurin ang feu management. kung may magagawa lang talaga!
eggboy
Sep 21, 2009, 07:08 PM
kung may dapat imbestigahan dito at ilagay sa hotseat, walang iba yan kundi *** team captain nila... si barocca ang naging leader ng FEU na hindi nya kaya inprovide. kung wala naman si barocca, si sanga, garcia, cervantes saka ramos nagpo-provide ng angas sa FEU. bat hindi kaya *** team captain na un ang imbestigahan nila... balita pa nga eh sya ang unang nag-vote out kay barocca na alisin sa team... anung klaseng team captain yan...
tamarawz_14
Sep 21, 2009, 07:19 PM
How bout yung 3 straight championships nila from 2003-2005? And yung isa pa dun galing sa Ateneo.
And about JR Cawalang.. choker lang talaga yung mama.. kulang sa puso eh.
2004-2005 against la salle.. obviously ayaw matalo nila montinola and molina against them... yeah your right big time choker talaga si cawaling dapat siya na lang inalis.....buti na lang si paul sanga nagstep-up..
tamz_online
Sep 21, 2009, 07:24 PM
i still believe... hay...
paddylast
Sep 21, 2009, 07:28 PM
2. KAY SIR ANTON AT SA FEU, BIGYAN NYO PO AKO NG PAGKAKATAON TAPUSIN ANG AKING PAG-AARAL SA FEU BILANG SKOLAR, DAHIL ITO PO ANG AKING BANAL NA PANGAKO SA AKIN INA NUNG AKO PO AY LUMISAN SA ZAMOBANGA PARA MAKIPAGSAPALARAN SA MAYNILA.
surely hindi tatanggalin scholarship niya diba? :(
Gospel of Judas
Sep 21, 2009, 07:33 PM
kung papaalisin ng feu si barroca maraming school ang welcome na welcome sya. :bungi:
tamarawz_14
Sep 21, 2009, 07:50 PM
2. KAY SIR ANTON AT SA FEU, BIGYAN NYO PO AKO NG PAGKAKATAON TAPUSIN ANG AKING PAG-AARAL SA FEU BILANG SKOLAR, DAHIL ITO PO ANG AKING BANAL NA PANGAKO SA AKIN INA NUNG AKO PO AY LUMISAN SA ZAMOBANGA PARA MAKIPAGSAPALARAN SA MAYNILA.
surely hindi tatanggalin scholarship niya diba? :(
yeah remain pa rin siya sa FEU as student..
TaShawn
Sep 21, 2009, 08:12 PM
kung papaalisin ng feu si barroca maraming school ang welcome na welcome sya. :bungi:
Sigurado yan. :naughty:
Nenang_Gata
Sep 21, 2009, 10:06 PM
well i remember Baracael case...umabot nga lang sa sukdulan ang sa kanya...nasa bukana pa lang si Barroca...tsk tsk
junelle
Sep 22, 2009, 12:17 AM
guys, what if we start an online petition to recall barroca to the team? the feu administration may still change their minds.
Boss, mas maganda siguro kung gusto mo ng petition eh magbigay ka ng flyer about sa petition kay barroca sa bawat makasalubong mong estudyante ng feu. Sa ganong paraan baka mas mapansin nila ang petition.
paddylast
Sep 22, 2009, 12:20 AM
^ yup, do it sa FEU campus kasi obviously--walang masyadong weight kung yung petition eh outside the campus or outside the org... at game 1 na sa sunday (finals)
stonecold316
Sep 22, 2009, 01:04 AM
The Montinola factor lang yan.
Tsk, tsk, tsk.
Kawawa naman si Barocca.
sidewinder22
Sep 22, 2009, 06:08 AM
kung papaalisin ng feu si barroca maraming school ang welcome na welcome sya. :bungi:
Ang problema nga lang 23 years old na siya ngayon.
uyyyyy
Sep 22, 2009, 07:29 AM
I heard Bader Malabes and Ferdinand already went home to Bahrain and Indonesia respectively. What about Mangahas and Barua? What's next in line for them?
If the above is true, isn't it a bit early to blow up this team especially since DLSU is still going to play in the Philippine Collegiate championships?
obscura
Sep 22, 2009, 09:29 AM
I heard Bader Malabes and Ferdinand already went home to Bahrain and Indonesia respectively. What about Mangahas and Barua? What's next in line for them?
If the above is true, isn't it a bit early to blow up this team especially since DLSU is still going to play in the Philippine Collegiate championships?
are they still going to play in the PCCL? they earned a wildcard berth and will be competing in the Naga City (South Luzon) zonal qualifiers. they can easily break into the "sweet 16" via the zonals.
they can either take a break from all these off season competitions or use the tournament to let the rookies gain much needed experience especially now that the veterans seem to be booted out of the team.
barbs-foreva
Sep 22, 2009, 10:12 AM
ayos to si barroca my guts talagang magsabi na malinis konsensya niya .. unlike si bonbon ,kumaripas na lang ng alis sa UE ..
goodluck andy sa study at gilas .
Red_Engr
Sep 22, 2009, 10:31 AM
ayos to si barroca my guts talagang magsabi na malinis konsensya niya .. unlike si bonbon ,kumaripas na lang ng alis sa UE ..
goodluck andy sa study at gilas .
Bonbon Custodio sold his soul to the devil and betrayed UE in the Game 1 of F4 in Season 69 thats why we lost to UST twice and missed the Finals. When he was suspended in Game 2 he simply disappear in UE and never showed up, got no balls to face UE Community that his conscience is clean.
In the case of Andy Barocca he is braved enough to say that my conscience is clean and I want to finish my studies in FEU. Meaning to say he really wanted to stay and finish school and faced the FEU Community. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and I guess he should be given a chance to prove to the FEU Tamaraws & FEU Admin that he is innocent on their accusation.
I am rooting for UE my Alma Mater and we want to win it big on thursday if ever and with God grace that we made it to the finals our victory will never be the same without Andy Barocca playing on the FEU side.
Goodluck Andy Barocca
Go Fight Red & White
ylle41
Sep 22, 2009, 10:34 AM
Barroca scored 18 points yata last Saturday sa Smart gilas vs. A Liga Pilipinas team yata.
kung sa FEU sana nadagdagan ang points niya nanalo na FEU. :lol:
Arrowstorm
Sep 22, 2009, 12:01 PM
I heard Bader Malabes and Ferdinand already went home to Bahrain and Indonesia respectively. What about Mangahas and Barua? What's next in line for them?
If the above is true, isn't it a bit early to blow up this team especially since DLSU is still going to play in the Philippine Collegiate championships?
PCCL?
nagbayad na ba ng UTANG?
:bop:
terio
Sep 22, 2009, 01:37 PM
PCCL?
nagbayad na ba ng UTANG?
:bop:
Ang tanong dapat dyan eh, kung magbabayad pa.
uyyyyy
Sep 22, 2009, 01:56 PM
PCCL?
nagbayad na ba ng UTANG?
:bop:
Hmmmm utang?
nash_bedista
Sep 22, 2009, 01:59 PM
^^ haha .. sayang ang plane ticket :lol:
fOKER pACE
Sep 22, 2009, 07:33 PM
^^ haha .. sayang ang plane ticket :lol:
LOL! Bedistang PULPOL,ASA ka anman na mananalo kayo sa UAAP team sa PCCL! Muka pa rin kayong katawa-tawa!
DavidBeckham
Sep 22, 2009, 08:30 PM
ok, so we had our fun with the "papa andy", "pretty boy barocca" etc, lets talk serious here about what andy barocca is going through
personally, i dont like FEU, nor andy barocca but i have to give him credit that he really is a very talented player. they compare him with denoch miranda but i think he's more of the johnny abarrientos (minus looks)_
he had one bad game the whole season and he get tagged in a game fixing accusation
why not look at the other FEU players?
for one, JR CAWALING, the team captain and Smart Gilas player, has not really played anything deserving of the title of team captain nor worthy to be a smart gilas player.
i dont recall him playing remarkably or carrying the team this season, if there are two players who were really consistent, its barocca and ALDRECH rAMOS.
kawawa talaga si barocca if he really is innocent.
but on the other hand, why would the FEU management come out with guns blazing at barocca if there really is no solid evidence right?
i guess there might be soome truth in the game fixing allegation
but regardless, if they indeed have the evidence, then andy barocca should face the consequences and the ridicule.
but if wala talaga at haka-haka lang then, karma na lang sa FEU management.
parokyano
Sep 23, 2009, 12:34 PM
Nopes.. questionable na po ang laro ni Andy Barroca towards the end of the 1st round of eliminations.
Giv&Tak
Sep 23, 2009, 05:57 PM
Barroca scored 18 points yata last Saturday sa Smart gilas vs. A Liga Pilipinas team yata.
kung sa FEU sana nadagdagan ang points niya nanalo na FEU. :lol:
bakit kasi pinagsabay ang practice ng FEU at Smart Gilas na yan.
could it be possible na hindi ito mangyayari if Barroca comes from
Ateneo? Nagtatanong lang po. Based sa isa sa mga post dito na taken from a newspaper article if i am not mistaken, mas pinili ni Barroca na makipagpractice sa Smart Gilas than FEU MBT na nasa Final 4 na, very impt.games indeed for any team for that matter, not just for FEU. Nasa Phil.Star sila ngayon (Smart Gilas team) papunta ng Singapore for an exhibition game. Nakasmile sia, as if walang nangyari. And who wouldnt. Hindi lang dito sa P.I., Singapore (one of d cleanest) pa,all-expense paid trip, saan kapa. May nagbanggit dito about PLDT shares. Hindi naman siguro, BAKA lifetime load lang. Joke!
if indeed this game-fixing is true, parang FEU ang nagsaing/nagaruga
iba yata ang kumain/nakinabang and I dont think FEU managemnt would LET GO not just one of their key players but their NO.1 key player, based on stats kung wala silang concrete proof to make such a big & crucial decision at this stage of d tournament. But there
is such a thing as UPSET in any sports or sabi nga in tagalog bilog daw ang bola. And I think this is also d chance for others to shine w/o Barroca & who knows may tinatawag din Blessing In Disguise.
on the other hand, kung totoo nga, siguro aside from an offer na nakakahinayang tanggihan more so coming from an impoverished family at sa hirap ng buhay at ang kapalit ay ang kanyang buhay like what happened w/ Barracael na unfortunately a year has passed d culprit hasnt been caught at hindi SPIRITUALLY rooted BAKA nga. Sana ituro sa mga players na MAGAGALING but comes from POOR families like majority those coming from university belt schools like ue, feu, nu, etc. values like not accepting bribes. I guess one of d reasons is too much attachment to one's alma mater kaya some even go to the extent of doing uncalled for acst like what they did w/ Barracael. Buti nabuhay naman sia kaya lang justice hasnt been served siguro dahil mahirap din sila kaya hindi na tinuloy ang laban.
BTW, whatever happened to the thread starter, JoeBudden inc.the
theme of his/her thread, Barroca's LOOKS, not SKILLS na siang requirement sa basketball coz hindi naman MR.POGi sinalihan ni Mark.
Natabunan na yong theme nia na LOOKS to possible GAME-FIXING.
In the first place, just wondering what could be the motive behind this thread, inggit dahil sa galing? Ngayon, wala na sa FEU si Mark,
ano kaya reaction and to think nasa Final 4 pa lang FEU, hindi pa champion & might not even make it to the Finals. History seems to repeat itself. Ganito rin last year, may anti-Barroca thread just bec.napanalo nia ang FEU kahit sa eliminations pa lang & we all know
which teams played in the championship, FEU hindi kasali.
just my PERSONAL observations/views/opinion. if you think otherwise, i will respect it but pls.respect mine too.
reboundmag
Sep 24, 2009, 12:38 PM
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spikeman_27
Oct 1, 2009, 12:26 PM
sino ba ang ang next year recruit nila? si terence ba mag lalaro na sa kanila next year?at sino mga africanong mga players ang maglalaro na next year?
homerubadzmaru
Oct 1, 2009, 04:29 PM
iyo de **** ka BAROCCA! PANOORIN MO ITO NG MATUTO KA NG INTEGRITY! GAYAHIN MO SI JANS COLINA!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wpmHJh4pBc
ferventzephyr
Oct 12, 2009, 02:17 PM
Nansan na si Andy barrocca?... There are rumors na tangal na ** sa basketball team ng FEU at ito daw ay dahil sa GAME FIXING issues.. Anu masasabi ninyo dito..
U238
Oct 12, 2009, 02:59 PM
^integrity ba kamo? ni hindi nga napatunayan na nag game fixing si barroca e at di hamak naman na mas magaling si barroca, tsaka hindi dadapuan ng game fixing issue ang adamson, hindi naman sila threat e.
Derrick_Rose#1
Oct 12, 2009, 06:25 PM
Nansan na si Andy barrocca?... There are rumors na tangal na ** sa basketball team ng FEU at ito daw ay dahil sa GAME FIXING issues.. Anu masasabi ninyo dito..
Sa Smart Gilas na siya maglalaro. Saka next year si RR Garcia na ang bagong King Tamaraw.
HoGo
Oct 13, 2009, 05:18 AM
idol pa din b to? e nagbenta na to ng laro kaya natanggal sa FEU d b. walang kwenta...
feugirl
Oct 18, 2009, 12:48 PM
idol pa din b to? e nagbenta na to ng laro kaya natanggal sa FEU d b. walang kwenta...
Hindi napatunayan n nagbebenta sha ng laro. Hindi nm inalis ang scholarship nya sa feu. at Hinahabol sha ngayon ng feu management
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