Ryan Buenafe: Ateneo's Star Rookie

[last.dodo.bird]

Didn't see a thread about Buenafe, so here it is.

He may not be quick... he may not be athletic... I didn't even see what the big fuzz was about him at the start. But after seeing him play a couple of games already, I get it.

He's a damn smart player. Ang taas ng basketball IQ niya. He's amazing at maximizing his skills. I agree at the comparisons to Paul Pierce; parang ganun nga ang laro niya.

*okay* ROY to most probably *okay*

[Demon Wings]

After his first three UAAP games, I'd say he hasn't shown half of what he can do out there.

Regarding the negative side to his game, it's already obvious that he has two things to work on after the season's over: outside shooting and better conditioning. The only way for him to prevent defenses from playing him for the drive is to make them pay with a respectable three-point stroke. Right now, he seems a little hesitant to shoot from 18-20 feet, and doesn't get much off the ground when he does. That jumper needs some offseason work; it will open the game up for him and double his effectiveness on offense. Conditioning is even less of a worry, because all he needs is a full summer of Norman Black boot camp. :lol:

On the plus side, I cannot name a single Blue Eagle, past or present, who definitely has a better natural feel for the game than Ryan. He's right up there with Larry and Chris in terms of basketball IQ. And he carries such a defiant swagger, as if he thinks he's the best player on the floor. His ballhandling and penetrating game are top-notch; not even Thiele could shadow him from the backcourt. His ability to draw contact and foul calls is unbelievable. And what I really love about him is that he's starting to show how he can make his teammates better as the "point forward."

He will be the UAAP's best player in a couple of years, and hopefully a champion a little earlier than that. :D

[scqg]

one major weak side of ryan buenafe is his ability to look for the open man. more often than note, ateneo's offense becomes stagnant once he gets hold of the ball..somewhat becomes like an isolation play for him..the only option for him is to attack and shoot the ball..

[THE ONLOOKER]

I like how he plays. He knows how to use his height and body. ;)

[blue_quenky]

He's knows when to pass and when to shoot. Medyo kulang lang ng outside shooting and he has to learn to drive going to his left. In time though, he will improve!

[Gospel of Judas]

sana sulit ang... recruitment sa kanya.

[nash_bedista]

one major weak side of ryan buenafe is his ability to look for the open man. more often than note, ateneo's offense becomes stagnant once he gets hold of the ball..somewhat becomes like an isolation play for him..the only option for him is to attack and shoot the ball..


Bro, didn't see how Ryan create plays then he look for Open man just like he did last 3 games. Consitent lagi pasa nya, create contact or drop pass lang gagawin nya sa mga BigMan.

[bluewing]

^
if you've seen enough of ryan's game, you'll know that he definitely has an outside shot. either wala pa pa lang syang go signal or ninanamnam pa muna yung sistema. but rest assured, bibira rin yan sooner or later. ryan buenafe is perhaps the most complete athlete in the uaap today.

[Gospel of Judas]

ryan buenafe is perhaps the most complete athlete in the uaap today.
doesn't the title belong to chris tiu?

okay, that's student-athlete. sorry.

[the_shot]

from the way this kid was hyped, i thought he'd slamdunk the ball in every fastbreak, shoot fadeaway 3 pointers with a 54% accuracy, and average 44.2 ppg, 19.1 rpg, 12.2 apg, 59.1% fgs, 94% fts... turns out he's a fat kid with a bong hawkins vertical leap... mukhang mas promising pa si joshua webb

[Demon Wings]

Nah, Joshua's gonna be a role player. He'll bring energy, athleticism, and hustle, but he's gonna be strictly a role player. Like I said, he's more athlete than baller.

Ryan's got the chance to become really special if he polishes his game a little more. Franz certainly thought so, even took the trouble of pissing Ryan's mom off and killing any chances of landing him in the first place. :lol:

[baludoy]

he's very, very good but i feel nico salva would be a more important player for ateneo in the future :)

[THE ONLOOKER]

Nah, Joshua's gonna be a role player. He'll bring energy, athleticism, and hustle, but he's gonna be strictly a role player. Like I said, he's more athlete than baller.

Ryan's got the chance to become really special if he polishes his game a little more. Franz certainly thought so, even took the trouble of pissing Ryan's mom off and killing any chances of landing him in the first place. :lol:
I agree. Josh will be a role player like James Mangahas last season. I hope Mangahas will return his focus on the offensive side coz I believe he can shoot anywhere. La Salle badly needs more offensive options now. ;)

I noticed Buenafe today na mukhang okay rin siya magbwaya kahit paminsan minsan. Effective e. ;)

[last.dodo.bird]

one major weak side of ryan buenafe is his ability to look for the open man. more often than note, ateneo's offense becomes stagnant once he gets hold of the ball..somewhat becomes like an isolation play for him..the only option for him is to attack and shoot the ball..
wow. seriously... wow.

have you seen how good ryan's court vision is? especially in the game this afternoon against UE, he dished out a fair amount of good assists.

[Pound4Pound]

He actually reminds me of Wesley Gonzales with less athleticism but with higher basketball IQ.

He will end up being Chief Eagle in the future provided he continues his development. ;)

[RuckuS]

wow. seriously... wow.

have you seen how good ryan's court vision is? especially in the game this afternoon against UE, he dished out a fair amount of good assists.

right. dont underestimate Buenafe's passing skills. in HS he had several triple double games and could have easily had more IF his teammates were able to convert after receiving his bullet passes. he played heads and shoulders over EVERYBODY in the NCAA Jrs. including his own teammates. now in the UAAP he will finally have teammates mature enough to recognize a pass coming from him. this kid is really special, can beat you on both ends of the court. expect him to dominate the UAAP in the coming years, or maybe even sooner. *okay*

and please, don't even think of comparing Joshua Webb to him.. its like comparing Mike "Cool Cat" Cortez to say, Epok Quimpo .. they are NOT in the same league. :lol:

[balma_6165]

For this season, I think Buenafe is already worth the recruitment. Aside from Chris Tiu and Eric Salamat, his presence has given Ateneo another playmaker that can make things happen if the offense buckles down. Of course, he still has to improve on a couple of things for this season (shot selection, better passing, better flow in the offense, more consistent outside shot, better defense), but as far as comparing him to other rookies, I think he's already shown his worth.

In the long run though, for him to be a King Eagle, I would have to say that apart from working on the skills and conditioning, he has to become more of a leader. He's a bit softspoken and in 2 years, he has to to do a lot more communicating in the team than just his game.

As far as Ateneo comparisons are concerned, I might say he's comparable to John Verayo during the dark ages of Ateneo basketball. That guy was just a natural on-court, most especially with the ball. If anybody can remember him, he wasn't the most athletic guy, but the game just flowed and seemed so simple to him.

[lkrskb8]

i also think buenafe is a complete player already...syempre di nya magagawa yung same stat line nya nung hs kasi ibang leve naman ang seniors and sabi nga ni coach norman, support players pa lang ang mga rookies...so he's just playing his part

he's got a decent shot from the outside...pero i think yung focus ng offense of ateneo is to really pound it inside and rely less on the three... does anyone have stats on average 3pt attempts ng ateneo in the last 3 games? siguro sila na league kolelat in that department

anyone with his running average stats so far?

[shamhoy]

He looks like a taller version of James Martinez from UE--chubby kids..:lol:

[last.dodo.bird]

and please, don't even think of comparing Joshua Webb to him.. its like comparing Mike "Cool Cat" Cortez to say, Epok Quimpo .. they are NOT in the same league. :lol:
:lol:

As far as Ateneo comparisons are concerned, I might say he's comparable to John Verayo during the dark ages of Ateneo basketball. That guy was just a natural on-court, most especially with the ball. If anybody can remember him, he wasn't the most athletic guy, but the game just flowed and seemed so simple to him.
Hey, you're right... he does have a lot of similarities to John Verayo. Physically oo, pero hindi ko na masyado maalala yung playing style ni John (pati yata hairstyle eh. haha!). Grade School palang ako nung nasa Ateneo team sila ni Sandy A eh. Hehe.

[bagtitako]

he's very, very good but i feel nico salva would be a more important player for ateneo in the future :)

You are right and if he starts to develop his 3-point range and rebounding then he is in the mold of Rich Alvarez a versatile forward.

[suprakarma]

uh, tanong lang ng inosente... kaano-ano niya si ronjay?

peace, ndi ko talaga alam e..

:D

[Pound4Pound]

Will he be as good as Wesley G? Or even better? :D

[scqg]

Will he be as good as Wesley G? Or even better? :D

as early as now, i can say BETTER. :)

[KuyaDanny]

uh, tanong lang ng inosente... kaano-ano niya si ronjay?


Pinsan niya po.

[bluesoul]

I agree. Actually, I don't like Wes. Angas na, di naman magaling. Bench nga sa PBA...unlike the other ex-UAAP players who are doing well...

OT: Mga idol kong Eagles are Fonacier, Chris, Nonoy... yung mga magagaling, pero di ma-angas :)

[scqg]

wes is a tall player who can play guard or forward. can hit the jumpshot or attack the basket. problem? consistency and attitude.

[KevinDurant]

You are right and if he starts to develop his 3-point range and rebounding then he is in the mold of Rich Alvarez a versatile forward.

Pray that he won't be another Rich Alvarez..bust

[Derrick_Rose]

Ryan "Super Rookie" Buenafe (Season 71 Stats)

8.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 2.0 apg, 0.3 spg, 0.3 bpg, 47.06 FG%, 75.00 FT%

[lionidas]

Wow! Ilang taon na si Buenafe?

[Gospel of Judas]

17-19 i guess. fresh out of hs

[lionidas]

^ di nga!? 17-19 lang? Ayos ah

[anton_1108]

Pray that he won't be another Rich Alvarez..bust

Which ended up being the 1st pick and the ROY of the PBA. Injuries destroying his career :mecry:

[Gospel of Judas]

rich ended up being benched in his supposed to be rookie debut hahaha

[anton_1108]

rich ended up being benched in his supposed to be rookie debut hahaha

And your point is??

[Gospel of Judas]

And your point is??
just sharing.

[anton_1108]

just sharing.

:rotflmao::rotflmao:

go figure :rolleyes:

[Kambei]

Alvarez won the ROY, and continues to be a regular contributor for Red Bull.

Nandito pala si Derrick Rose. Feeling ko siya rin si Lebron23 sa Insidehoops forums.

What has impressed me is Ronjay's sneaky quickness and athleticism. He looks like he's moving in slomo, and yet he can get to the basket consistently and hang in the air. He has given Ateneo another option if isolation plays are needed, either from the post or from the top of the key.

[Katchatore]

Sya nga. Sino pa ba? LOL.

[Kambei]

Si Pandamonaeon (sp?) din andun.

[therapist20069]

Dapat may sub-threads dito:

1. REVILLA vs. buenafe

2. VILLANUEVA vs. buenafe

3. BATRIVERIC vs. buenafe

4. FERDINAND vs. buenafe

:rotflmao:

[last.dodo.bird]

^ baket pa? eh talo niya naman lahat yan? :glee:

@Kambei: You mean Ryan, not Ronjay? ;) And yes, natatawa din ako sa kanya because he does seem to be always moving in slomo but he gets the job done :p

[Pundit]

rich ended up being benched in his supposed to be rookie debut hahaha

Which, in turn, caused the eventual axing of short lived Shell coach John Moran (God rest his soul).

[Gospel of Judas]

patay na si moran?!?!?!?!?!

[Pundit]

Which ended up being the 1st pick and the ROY of the PBA. Injuries destroying his career :mecry:

Now that I think about it, Rich has been unlucky with injuries in the pros, contrasted from his entire college career where I do not recall him ever missing a game due to injury (although he was unfairly suspended for a perceived punch at Jojo Hate).

[scyon]

antay pa mga kabagang! masyadong maaga para sabihing "star" yung bata! let him play and love what he is doing, mahirap na baka lagi na lang sasagi sa isipan niya na siya ay isang "star" gayung wala pa naman siyang napapatunayan sa college ball.
just an opinion. =)

[scqg]

Now that I think about it, Rich has been unlucky with injuries in the pros, contrasted from his entire college career where I do not recall him ever missing a game due to injury (although he was unfairly suspended for a perceived punch at Jojo Hate).

rich is just good as a role player in the pba. he doesn't have the offensive explosiveness to be a superstar in the pba. he's more of a 10-10 player.

[pethuel03]

magaling ito si buenafe. malupit pumasa. nakita nyo ba *** mga pasa nya kay al husseini. mostly drop passes *** madali mkaiskor si huesseini kaso mejo bano din tong si husseini eh..mabilis nmn si bunafe ah tska above average athleticm imo. sana nga magimprove pa **.

[jayloui]

he has above average passing skills for a man his size, and he dribbles the ball well for a forward.. he just needs to lose weight so he can move a little quicker, develop his outside shooting, and he's gonna be one helluva problem for my red team... Now UE needs to adjust their trapping defense with Ryan in mind...

[Brewskie]

All Buenafe needs is to develop his outside shot. It will only be a matter of time as shooting is the easiest basketball skill to master. Kumpleto na ang laro nya talaga. He is deceptively quick. Nagmumukhang kawawa yung mga bumabantay sa kanya. Pag pasok sa loob ang lakas ng upperbody kaya kahit kanino nakikipagbanggaan. If the lane is really blocked, ang galing pumasa. Sa depensa naman ang gulang bumantay. Notice when he defends off the ball, puro tama yung bantay nya at lahat ng lumalapit sa kanya. Medyo mabagal pa nga lang laterally, or baka naman tinatamad pa.

All he really needs is a consistent jump shot from 15-18 feet. One dribble then pull up. If he learns that proficiently, talagang mahihilo na ang mga bumabantay sa kanya.

Super talent itong bata na ito. Wag lang lalaki ang ulo nya and I hope he continues to strive to learn the game.

[icarus_fly]

as early as now, i can say BETTER. :)

yep he's gonna be way better than wesley. wesley doesn't have the upper body strength this kid buenafe has. although probably less taller, he knows how to use his other strengths and make his team better.

[blue&green]

Pray that he won't be another Rich Alvarez..bust

rich a bust? :rotflmao:

did you even watch him play in his rookie season?

[anton_1108]

All Buenafe needs is to develop his outside shot. It will only be a matter of time as shooting is the easiest basketball skill to master. Kumpleto na ang laro nya talaga. He is deceptively quick. Nagmumukhang kawawa yung mga bumabantay sa kanya. Pag pasok sa loob ang lakas ng upperbody kaya kahit kanino nakikipagbanggaan. If the lane is really blocked, ang galing pumasa. Sa depensa naman ang gulang bumantay. Notice when he defends off the ball, puro tama yung bantay nya at lahat ng lumalapit sa kanya. Medyo mabagal pa nga lang laterally, or baka naman tinatamad pa.

All he really needs is a consistent jump shot from 15-18 feet. One dribble then pull up. If he learns that proficiently, talagang mahihilo na ang mga bumabantay sa kanya.

Super talent itong bata na ito. Wag lang lalaki ang ulo nya and I hope he continues to strive to learn the game.

He's actually a good shooter (by watching his HS games). I think he still doesn't have the green light to shoot a lot. Or maybe he's still feeling things out.

[blue&green]

he has above average passing skills for a man his size, and he dribbles the ball well for a forward.. he just needs to lose weight so he can move a little quicker, develop his outside shooting, and he's gonna be one helluva problem for my red team... Now UE needs to adjust their trapping defense with Ryan in mind...

he already has that. he has an average outside shot.

[Katchatore]

Buenafe's a good player. Very good. It now comes down to intangibles like work ethic.

[icarus_fly]

As far as Ateneo comparisons are concerned, I might say he's comparable to John Verayo during the dark ages of Ateneo basketball. That guy was just a natural on-court, most especially with the ball. If anybody can remember him, he wasn't the most athletic guy, but the game just flowed and seemed so simple to him.[/QUOTE]

i fondly remember those dark ages hehe.i was ADMU HS then and we were so used to being in the cellar and the one one game we ever cared about is the one against the archers.if we won, the season's all made for us*okay*

pero palagay ko mas malupit pa rin tong si buenafe talent-wise, kumpara kay verayo. though verayo was much wider, this kid ryan has like what was said in some posts, polished basketball skills and high IQ, and a freshman at that. verayo bloomed during his junior and senior year, and he was one of the VERY few go to guys in that team along with Ticzon, Rentosa..hopefully with this team, gone would be those dark ages hehe..i'd be watching this kid develop into a more complete player, both offensively and defensively in the coming years

[blue&green]

^

think of it this way:

verayo bloomed... just wait for buenafe to bloom too. that would be something to wait for :D

[^^Ajaj^^]

one word "BUWAYA"

nuff said... sana matuto sya maging team player sayang ang "Investement" sa kanya ng ateneo noh hehehehe

[Pound4Pound]

one word "BUWAYA"

nuff said... sana matuto sya maging team player sayang ang "Investement" sa kanya ng ateneo noh hehehehe

Are you sure you watched him play in every Ateneo game?
Nope..I don't expect you too. But for you to make judgments like these...

:naughty:

On the other hand, the Ateneo fans will here mostly take your post with a grain of salt :D

[dlsukid]

one word "BUWAYA"

nuff said... sana matuto sya maging team player sayang ang "Investement" sa kanya ng ateneo noh hehehehe

antayin mo next year kapag wala na si chris tiu bro...

watch mode muna.

[archer_reigns]

siguro kung si franz hahawak sa kanya mas gagaling sya lalo.

[Pound4Pound]

siguro kung si franz hahawak sa kanya mas gagaling sya lalo.

That's a contentious argument.

To the Blue Eagles supporters

Care to dispute that? :naughty:

[last.dodo.bird]

siguro kung si franz hahawak sa kanya mas gagaling sya lalo.
Schrödinger's cat

[Pound4Pound]

Schrödinger's cat

Mr. Dodobird,

I do appreciate the cleverness and logic behind that remark. But it wouldn't be fair for some of those in this thread who are gonna spend the next few hours trying to figure out why Schrodinger's cat is the perfect answer to that contentions question of archer_reigns after researching it on Google. :glee:

Pakitranslate na lang po ang iyong perspective into purely basketball terms ok? :D

Thank you very much and more power to you! :D

and for those who are wondering what happened to the cat. eto po ang nangyari sa kanya

http://brneurosci.org/drunk-cat-whiskey-small.jpg

:lol:

[dlsukid]

siguro kung si franz hahawak sa kanya mas gagaling sya lalo.

magaling naman na si buenafe in the first place...

if franz handled him....hmmmm

***** pagagawa nya kay buenafe yung pinagawa nya kay cardona noon, offensively and DEFENSIVELY.

go-to-guy agad and super explosive *****. naalala ko talaga sila cortez at cardona...unang pasok pa lang pero they took over the game na agad.

namimiss ko na talaga DLSU press with an SF leeching over point guards.

[KevinDurant]

rich a bust? :rotflmao:

did you even watch him play in his rookie season?

and after that???

[^^Ajaj^^]

antayin mo next year kapag wala na si chris tiu bro...

watch mode muna.

sana nga bro kasi sayang he has the skills mwala lang sana *** pagka buwaya nya...

i've watch him several times since HS days nya with baste and no wonder he brought along sa ateneo yung i,me,mine mentality nya dun sa baste...

newei great UAAP season 71 daming malalakas

ANIMO LASALLE!!!

[Pundit]

siguro kung si franz hahawak sa kanya mas gagaling sya lalo.

Ah, what could have been .....

The "what ifs" of life....

[^^Ajaj^^]

Are you sure you watched him play in every Ateneo game?
Nope..I don't expect you too. But for you to make judgments like these...

:naughty:

On the other hand, the Ateneo fans will here mostly take your post with a grain of salt :D

as i've posted before ive watched him play since HS days nya with baste and yup he is good but more of a ballhog...

have you heard of positive criticism? la lang kasi sayang talaga tong batang toh kung tuloy tuloy sya sa wrong attitude nya on court medyo sayang ang career... off court ok naman daw sya sabi ng mga tropa ko sa baste kaya on court dapat maging team player din sya...

if ever chris tiu or even erik salamat could instill in him the word team play ***** pwerhouse na talaga ADMU ngayon pa lang... *peace*

ok? no pun intended just a positive criticism...

ANIMO LASALLE!!!

[last.dodo.bird]

Pakitranslate na lang po ang iyong perspective into purely basketball terms ok? :D
We will never know what would happen to Buenafe if he played under Franz because it didn't happen. Buenafe plays for Ateneo and is under Norman Black.

The only thing people can do is draw speculations based on Franz's and Buenafe's history as coach and player respectively. But everything would be mere speculation and (mostly) bias-fueled opinion.

[Gospel of Judas]

siguro kung si franz hahawak sa kanya mas gagaling sya lalo.
la salle didn't want to pay the "lux tax" :naughty:

[blue&green]

and after that???

ACL got the better part of him. do you even watch the PBA?

[blue&green]

siguro kung si franz hahawak sa kanya mas gagaling sya lalo.

i think this is what you call hypothesis contrary to fact.

[Trevi]

Mr. Dodobird,

I do appreciate the cleverness and logic behind that remark. But it wouldn't be fair for some of those in this thread who are gonna spend the next few hours trying to figure out why Schrodinger's cat is the perfect answer to that contentions question of archer_reigns after researching it on Google. :glee:

Pakitranslate na lang po ang iyong perspective into purely basketball terms ok? :D

Thank you very much and more power to you! :D

and for those who are wondering what happened to the cat. eto po ang nangyari sa kanya

http://brneurosci.org/drunk-cat-whiskey-small.jpg

:lol:


For those wondering what is it (like me)...read on... Thank you google search.

**********************************

Schrödinger's cat is a famous illustration of the principle in quantum theory of superposition , proposed by Erwin Schrödinger in 1935. Schrödinger's cat serves to demonstrate the apparent conflict between what quantum theory tells us is true about the nature and behavior of matter on the microscopic level and what we observe to be true about the nature and behavior of matter on the macroscopic level.

Here's Schrödinger's (theoretical) experiment: We place a living cat into a steel chamber, along with a device containing a vial of hydrocyanic acid. There is, in the chamber, a very small amount of a radioactive substance. If even a single atom of the substance decays during the test period, a relay mechanism will trip a hammer, which will, in turn, break the vial and kill the cat. The observer cannot know whether or not an atom of the substance has decayed, and consequently, cannot know whether the vial has been broken, the hydrocyanic acid released, and the cat killed. Since we cannot know, the cat is both dead and alive according to quantum law, in a superposition of states. It is only when we break open the box and learn the condition of the cat that the superposition is lost, and the cat becomes one or the other (dead or alive). This situation is sometimes called quantum indeterminacy or the observer's paradox : the observation or measurement itself affects an outcome, so that the outcome as such does not exist unless the measurement is made. (That is, there is no single outcome unless it is observed.)

We know that superposition actually occurs at the subatomic level, because there are observable effects of interference, in which a single particle is demonstrated to be in multiple locations simultaneously. What that fact implies about the nature of reality on the observable level (cats, for example, as opposed to electrons) is one of the stickiest areas of quantum physics. Schrödinger himself is rumored to have said, later in life, that he wished he had never met that cat.

[scqg]

back to topic please...*yawn*

[last.dodo.bird]

back to topic please...*yawn*
+1

ni-explain na nga eh...

[bluewing]

+1

ni-explain na nga eh...


mas maganda sana kung pinaraphrase nya into layman's terms kesa kinat en peyst mula sa wikipedia.

[Kevin Paquet]

The Santo Tomas Growling Tigers (UST) had to take a loss against De La Salle Green Archers (DLSU) in todays Match in season 71 of the UAAP by a 1 point deficit
http://pinoyteens.net/article/2008/07/the-archers-killed-the-tiger/

[DavidBeckham]

Kung Napunta Sa NU si Ryan Buenafe, Siya na sana ang KING BULLDOGONIAN or KING MEGAMALL..

what a deadly duo sila ni Asoro.. Putik... mga what ifs..

[DavidBeckham]

buwakaw kc si MINI ME JERIC FORTUNA

bwst.

[KevinDurant]

ACL got the better part of him. do you even watch the PBA?


So, we're there, Rich had an ACL injury and came back and what improvements did we see??

Knowing that he ain't that athletic anymore, he should've made an effort in improving his stroke from the outside..and now?? he still plays the way he played college bball. Relying on athletic ability, with poor decision making skills on the court. He could've been an Arwind Santos type player in the PBA. But Alvarez did not add any new weapon in his arsenal. What we saw in the UAAP, is the same with the PBA. Of course, he somewhow dominated the UAAP because was one of the tallest and athletic there, but he could not do the same in the PBA wherein you play against men.

Ask Gary David...a player who also came back from ACL..

[baludoy]

^the jury is still out w/ regards to the flop adjective being labelled on alvarez. having the need to install a screw on his shooting hand & another one on his knee almost immediately after, really messed up his career early on. but since some other pba team/s were lusting for his services last season, i suppose that's an indicator of an upside for this young man in the future. feeling ko parang magiging michal cage din siya, pba version kung saka-sakali :lol:

btt: ever since buenafe ran rings around the frontline of the ateneo men's basketball team in his high school sophomore year several years back (the then freshman salamat brought buenafe once or twice to a scrimmage at the moro), everyone who saw him play during those times knew how good this kid would eventually become

[blue&green]

So, we're there, Rich had an ACL injury and came back and what improvements did we see??

Knowing that he ain't that athletic anymore, he should've made an effort in improving his stroke from the outside..and now?? he still plays the way he played college bball. Relying on athletic ability, with poor decision making skills on the court. He could've been an Arwind Santos type player in the PBA. But Alvarez did not add any new weapon in his arsenal. What we saw in the UAAP, is the same with the PBA. Of course, he somewhow dominated the UAAP because was one of the tallest and athletic there, but he could not do the same in the PBA wherein you play against men.

Ask Gary David...a player who also came back from ACL..

You don't expect someone who just recovered from an injury to play the same way he did before the injury, do you?

[philippeVIII]

d ba may acl injury din si larry fonacier bago sya nag-red bull?

magaling si buenafe.

[Pound4Pound]

Let's clear the smoke regarding Alvarez and Fonacier ok?

Fonacier relies more on his smarts and Alvarez relies more on his athleticism.

Obviously, we do know who's having a better PBA career post-ACL injury.

It seems that Alvarez has not adjusted aspects of his game to fit his current limitations. He will have to tinker with his offensive arsenal if he wants to be an reliable asset to his team.

It doesn't matter if you can't play the same way post-ACL injury. What matters is how you adjust afterward.

Back to regular programming.

[sum098]

like the way buenafe uses his upper body strength to score...plus he can dribble pretty well for a man his size...a lot of upside to this kid's game

[nwebhost]

Mr. Dodobird,

I do appreciate the cleverness and logic behind that remark. But it wouldn't be fair for some of those in this thread who are gonna spend the next few hours trying to figure out why Schrodinger's cat is the perfect answer to that contentions question of archer_reigns after researching it on Google. :glee:

Pakitranslate na lang po ang iyong perspective into purely basketball terms ok? :D

Thank you very much and more power to you! :D

and for those who are wondering what happened to the cat. eto po ang nangyari sa kanya

http://brneurosci.org/drunk-cat-whiskey-small.jpg

:lol:



in other words, hindi daw alam ni dodo bird ano pinagsasabi ng isang atenista dyan na Schrodinger's cat. hindi daw niya mahanap sa google at gusto ipasa sa iba yung ka-t a n g a h a n niya.

LOL

[KevinDurant]

Let's clear the smoke regarding Alvarez and Fonacier ok?

Fonacier relies more on his smarts and Alvarez relies more on his athleticism.

Obviously, we do know who's having a better PBA career post-ACL injury.

It seems that Alvarez has not adjusted aspects of his game to fit his current limitations. He will have to tinker with his offensive arsenal if he wants to be an reliable asset to his team.

It doesn't matter if you can't play the same way post-ACL injury. What matters is how you adjust afterward.

Back to regular programming.


That's exactly my point. Larry uses his court smarts in games, that is why he's more effective. Rich has athleticism and nothing else. Even Tim Cone gave up on this guy..

[last.dodo.bird]

UP vs Ateneo coming up. Let's see how Buenafe does...

[Pound4Pound]

UP vs Ateneo coming up. Let's see how Buenafe does...

Is there any wing player from UP that can guard him? UP might resort to trapping D but that will open up the shaded for Ateneo's bigs to cause a lot of damage.

And I'm not exactly impressed by UP's frontline either. :D

[last.dodo.bird]

favorite assist target ni Buenafe si Rabeh ah :p

[Kevin Paquet]

Star Rookie Ryan Buenafe contributes to the 4th Victory of the Ateneo Blue Eagles in the UAAP 71 against Up Fighting Maroons on July 19, 1st Game Result Saturday Showcase

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[Kambei]

Everytime nanunuod ako ng Ateneo game napapa-text lagi ako ng "BUENAFE!" sa mga pinsan ko.

He tried to show his range today by shooting a few threes, but he missed on all his attempts.

Still, it was his best game as a Blue Eagle. So far. Good slashing, passing ball-handling, free-throw shooting, defending, etc.

OT: Cute yung courtside reporter ng UP. Yung sa Ateneo naman, parang gulat.

[last.dodo.bird]

^ He was 1/4 from beyond the arc today.

17pts, 2 rebs, 2 ast, 4/7FG, 8/9FT

[Kambei]

Even better!

[jEaNnObiLi]

got any info on Buenafe's real age??

i heard kasi from former HS teammates (who played with him in the Palarong Pambansa) that he's not really as young as advertised.. i heard that he's not really 18 and his papers were falsified...

[dagitab24]

got any info on Buenafe's real age??

i heard kasi from former HS teammates (who played with him in the Palarong Pambansa) that he's not really as young as advertised.. i heard that he's not really 18 and his papers were falsified...

Ang labo naman ng sources mo. Si Franz nga, sabik na sabik na kunin siya sa RP U-18 team e.

[the_Fan]

^
if you've seen enough of ryan's game, you'll know that he definitely has an outside shot. either wala pa pa lang syang go signal or ninanamnam pa muna yung sistema. but rest assured, bibira rin yan sooner or later. ryan buenafe is perhaps the most complete athlete in the uaap today.

Seniority-Syndrome ang problema.
Wala pang license to attack sa mga assistant coaches (na Bugoy).

Nalala ninyo, Intal was only licensed to take charge on his final year. Laging priority yun iba.

Buenafe should get at least 2 titles playing for Ateneo.

[the_Fan]

siguro kung si franz hahawak sa kanya mas gagaling sya lalo.

gagaling talaga siya...

...gagaling manapak (Joseph Yeo) pag nasaktan...
...gagaling magdahilan pag nalimutan ID (si Pido, wala ID)
...gagaling maging feeling api.:rotflmao:

[Pundit]

got any info on Buenafe's real age??

i heard kasi from former HS teammates (who played with him in the Palarong Pambansa) that he's not really as young as advertised.. i heard that he's not really 18 and his papers were falsified...

You are mistaking Ateneo for another school(s) that is/are in the habit of forging docs.

[bluesoul]

Ryan showed us what he is capable of in that game against the Maroons...however, teams will continue to watch him closely and they might find a way to stop him, so I hope he develops his outside shooting a bit more. If he can do both, he'll be unstoppable...just hope he stays grounded and continue to be a team player...(he's got good assists, too)...

[Pundit]

It's too bad the thread of Bagatsing v. Buenafe was shutdown. It would have been nice to continue the discussion now that we do not have to resort to speculation because the season is on-going.

Anyway, it seems that I was wrong. Buenafe is not doing better than his La Salle counterparts. Buenafe is averaging only 10.8ppg, while his La Salle counterparts are averaging 12ppg*. Kudos to La Salle for a recruiting coup!

-----------------------------
*Revilla -2.2ppg
Webb - 3.8 ppg
Bagatsing - 1.8 ppg
Maui - 4.2 ppg

Total -- 12ppg

[keener]

It's too bad the thread of Bagatsing v. Buenafe was shutdown. It would have been nice to continue the discussion now that we do not have to resort to speculation because the season is on-going.

Anyway, it seems that I was wrong. Buenafe is not doing better than his La Salle counterparts. Buenafe is averaging only 10.8ppg, while his La Salle counterparts are averaging 12ppg*. Kudos to La Salle for a recruiting coup!

-----------------------------
*Revilla -2.2ppg
Webb - 3.8 ppg
Bagatsing - 1.8 ppg
Maui - 4.2 ppg

Total -- 12ppg

Yep. It's great to see that for once, you're actually getting your money's worth.:)

[brat_blacksheep]

12ppg for the role players of la salle rookies ain't that bad compared to ateneo's (4 horsemen) 16ppg. considering those from the blue side are the top 4 blue chip recruits of season 71. mag-champion muna bago magyabang.

[<GaYLe>]

di lang naman points ang basehan ng basketball, most of the time pa nga defense ang nagdidictate ng laro eh. wala naman dapat i compare sa kanya, high school pa lang alam ng super rookie yan pag pasok sa seniors. but still basketball is a team game.

[keener]

12ppg for the role players of la salle rookies ain't that bad compared to ateneo's (4 horsemen) 16ppg. considering those from the blue side are the top 4 blue chip recruits of season 71. mag-champion muna bago magyabang.


For me...

12ppg>>14ppg + 1.5M

[Demon Wings]

Truth is, it was one of the La Sallian posters who started all this business about comparing Ryan to [insert DLSU rookie's name here]. Right now, there's an important fact that needs swallowing: he's better than any rookie in the UAAP today.

Now, if you wanna talk about other stuff like "1.5M" or Ryan being a little older than advertised, feel free. Just remember how insignificant all your comments are without hard evidence to support them. It's SO easy to say, "I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend that Ryan is..." Plus, with the benefit of internet anonymity, no one has to be held accountable for any of this $#!+.

Crab mentality lang yan, believe me. Before the start of the season, people were calling him overrated, overhyped, overweight, etc., even ranking guys like Webb and Bagatsing higher than him in the ROY race. Now that he's shutting you people up by doing his thing on the court, people are scrambling to find other things to pin him down for.

What I'm trying to say is, it would serve everyone well to just watch the kid make IDIOTS of all the haters and doubters. If there's any real accusation to be made which is based on relevant and admissible evidence, then the appropriate remedies are certainly available. Otherwise, if it can't be helped, keep harping on the "issue" all you want. It may prove to be therapeutic.

[twelve_12]

Truth is, it was one of the La Sallian posters who started all this business about comparing Ryan to [insert DLSU rookie's name here]. Right now, there's an important fact that needs swallowing: he's better than any rookie in the UAAP today.

Now, if you wanna talk about other stuff like "1.5M" or Ryan being a little older than advertised, feel free. Just remember how insignificant all your comments are without hard evidence to support them. It's SO easy to say, "I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend that Ryan is..." Plus, with the benefit of internet anonymity, no one has to be held accountable for any of this $#!+.

Crab mentality lang yan, believe me. Before the start of the season, people were calling him overrated, overhyped, overweight, etc., even ranking guys like Webb and Bagatsing higher than him in the ROY race. Now that he's shutting you people up by doing his thing on the court, people are scrambling to find other things to pin him down for.

What I'm trying to say is, it would serve everyone well to just watch the kid make IDIOTS of all the haters and doubters. If there's any real accusation to be made which is based on relevant and admissible evidence, then the appropriate remedies are certainly available. Otherwise, if it can't be helped, keep harping on the "issue" all you want. It may prove to be therapeutic.

Blame it on his grandfather who couldn't keep his mouth shut during a game while seated amongst a sea of curious ears. Or blame it on your fellow ateneans who have been employing the same kind tactic here in PEx. You're just getting a taste of your own medicine.

SO if we follow your line of reasoning, most ateneans here are haters and doubters. But our team has been making IDIOTS out of all of them year after year, yet these atenean haters and doubters still abound. I guess it's really "therapeutic" for them.

[Borat]

^ What line of reasoning? Wrong logic. Twisted. Typical Lasallian.

FACT: DLSU cheated. Hence, SUS.

CHISMAX: Buenafe was paid. Where's the proof? It's pure hearsay. Sabi ni kwan, sabi ni ano, sabi ni ewan.

Nuff said.

No wonder DLSU is not included in the Top 500 Global Elite List. Mahina ang mga kokote.:D :evil_lol:

[Pound4Pound]

^ What line of reasoning? Wrong logic. Twisted. Typical Lasallian.

FACT: DLSU cheated. Hence, SUS.

CHISMAX: Buenafe was paid. Where's the proof? It's pure hearsay. Sabi ni kwan, sabi ni ano, sabi ni ewan.

Nuff said.

No wonder DLSU is not included in the Top 500 Global Elite List. Mahina ang mga kokote.:D :evil_lol:

Si Boratroll bumanat na naman :rotflmao:

[last.dodo.bird]

You're just getting a taste of your own medicine.
:lol: now that was funny. now this is going to turn into a discussion of who did it first. haay.

panoorin niyo nalang si buenafe. deep down, the real reason anyway why people from other schools instinctively bash on him is because they didn't get him.

[Pound4Pound]

I don't know who came up with the P1.5M reference, but whoever came up with that idea must be one sick dude :glee:

[keener]

Areneas should top telling themselves that everyone is just jealous that's why Ryan is hated. Ryan is not hated. And honestly, Ryan was never gonna be ours in the first place. We didn't really have the resources to make him happy so there's no sense of loss for me.

He is not just the future of the UAAP. He is the future of RP basketball. He just needs to develop an automatic long range J to complete his arsenal.

So wish ko lang... Stop spreading the culture of hatred and jealousy coz we, Lasallians, want no part of that.

[twelve_12]

^ What line of reasoning? Wrong logic. Twisted. Typical Lasallian.

FACT: DLSU cheated. Hence, SUS.

CHISMAX: Buenafe was paid. Where's the proof? It's pure hearsay. Sabi ni kwan, sabi ni ano, sabi ni ewan.

Nuff said.

No wonder DLSU is not included in the Top 500 Global Elite List. Mahina ang mga kokote.:D :evil_lol:

So where's the "proof" that La Salle cheated?

Even the anti-La Salle UAAP board (composed of, among others, ateneo's palou and feu's montinola) could not find "proof" after months of witch hunting.

[fortune10]

ayoko tong si buenafe. mukhang palaka. pero may potential, may future. pero mukhang palaka.

opinion lang.

[Yakhouba_D]

May na basa pu ako. Di ko lang alam kung totoo:

May isang penomenal na bagets ngayon sa primerang liga na naglalaro para sa men's basketball team ng isang koponang talaga namang pinagkakagastusan ng sponsor nito. Nakakahiya na ang track record ng nasabing paaralan dahil bagama't milyun-milyon na ang nailaan dito, hindi pa rin manalo-nalo ang nasabing koponan. Kung kaya't napapabalita na nabili ng team na ito sa malaking halaga ang serbisyo ng nasabing bata na kung maglaro ay akala mo'y mama. Ayon sa tsismis na nagsimula sa bandang vito cruz, tumataginting na 2.5* M daw ang inilaan para lamang lumipat sa maisan si totoy. ito ang ikinakalat ng mga tiga-doon sa may vito cruz. Nagtaka naman ako kung san nahugot ang halagang 2.5* M. Naatat ako sa kwento kaya dumapo-dapo ako sa mga balikat ng mga tiga-loob upang malaman ang tunay na iskor....

Natawa ako sa aking na-ungkat. Eto pala ang nangyari: Ang talagang nag-alok ay isang konsehal na may konek din sa isang koponan dyan sa may LRT. ang alok daw kay bagets ay tumataginting na 2** M. Nang malaman ito ni Bagets ay daglian itong nagsumbong sa kuya-kuyahan nya na naglalaro rin para sa koponan sa may maisan. Pinagsabihan daw agad ni Kuya si Totoy na wag pansini yon at "Dito lang tayo." Syempre, payag naman si Totoy dahil matino rin naman yung bata.

Ngayon, nagtaka ang mga tiga-Vito Cruz kung bakit di napapayag si Bagets sa halagang 2**M. Ang naging konklusyon ay mas malaki ang alok ng mga tiga-maisan. Kaya ikinalat nila na 2.5* M ang naging bayaran.

Ang di nila alam, si Kuya lang talaga ang dahilan. Walang bayarang naganap. Ang ikinakakaba pa nila, susunod din daw si Bunso sa maisan sa isang taon. ;)








*hindi tunay na halaga

** hindi rin tunay na halaga

[Pound4Pound]

So where's the "proof" that La Salle cheated?

Even the anti-La Salle UAAP board (composed of, among others, ateneo's palou and feu's montinola) could not find "proof" after months of witch hunting.

Wag mo nang patulan si BoraTroll. Mas lalo lang siyang magiging aggressive :naughty:

[paralusi]

i heard that martians landed at luneta today.

of course, i absolutely have no way to prove it, but you all have to take it as gospel truth.

[blue&green]

i heard that martians landed at luneta today.

of course, i absolutely have no way to prove it, but you all have to take it as gospel truth.

:rotflmao: maybe one day, people here can make and broadcast UAAP's own "The Buzz!" :rotflmao:

para sa mga chismoso at chismosa sa UAAP world :rotflmao:

[Pizza Guy]

i heard that martians landed at luneta today.

of course, i absolutely have no way to prove it, but you all have to take it as gospel truth.

Lusi.... Actually... Kami na ni Marian... :lol:

[jkad]

The controversy surrounding Buenafe's enrollment in Ateneo is the same as the controversy surrounding BJ Manalo going to La Salle. Kung nakatanggap sila ng financial package, anong pake niyo, good for them, inggit lang kayo. The days of true amateurism are long gone anyway. If they were able to parlay their God-given talents into something that will help their families, well and good, I will not begrudge them that.

[keener]

The controversy surrounding Buenafe's enrollment in Ateneo is the same as the controversy surrounding BJ Manalo going to La Salle. Kung nakatanggap sila ng financial package, anong pake niyo, good for them, inggit lang kayo. The days of true amateurism are long gone anyway. If they were able to parlay their God-given talents into something that will help their families, well and good, I will not begrudge them that.

Wow... Kainggitan ba yon?

FYI, di kelangan ni Manalo ang money dahil mayaman siya to begin with. We can't say the same for Ryan. Sa case ni Ryan, open pa talaga ang lolo sa pag-amin. If you still think BJ was bought, you can ask his former AHS buds and they will tell you otherwise.

The days of true amateurism are long gone? This I definitely do not agree with. Contrary to your belief, hindi lahat ng tao nakukuha sa ganyan. My point is, dapat huli na si Ryan sa mga binibigyan ng special treatment. Ang bata naman, kung gusto talaga, lalapit yan.

[paralusi]

thank god for our legal system. if it were up to some people, we'd all be guilty until proven otherwise.

[Pundit]

Nakakatawa mga La Salista. Maghahamon, tapos ililihis pag talo na.

Sabi nila, Bagatsing vs. Buenafe daw. Tapos Buenafe v. Webb. Pag nakitang talo manok nila, magiimbento na lang -- "buti na lang sulit bayad nyo etc."

Tapos, mas magaling daw si Buenafe kasi matanda na yon. Nung malaman na 18 pa lang (born 1990, and younger than Webb by a few months and Bagatsing by 4 years), insinuate na lang na baka peke ang birth certificate. Nakakapagtaka kung ganon kasi nagpapakamatay si Pumaren na ipasok yun sa 18 and under RP youth. Kung totoo ang bintang, nakahanda ba sana si Franz na magpasok ng overage sa RP team?

Tapos bobo daw. Pero hinabol ni Pumaren ng husto. Ready ipasok sa La Salle. Inaamin nyo ba na ang bobo puede pumasok sa La Salle?

Tapos pangit daw. Wala na akong sagot dyan. Tameme na ako pag ganyan ang argumento.

[BigBloo]

keener, i did ask his HS buds, and they told me stuff that you'd have a difficult time digesting. ;)

but i that's a dead issue already. BJ's moved on and so have we. magkaibang-magkaiba ang kaso ni BJ sa kaso ni Ryan. wag na natin idamay si BJ.

[Pundit]

Wow... Kainggitan ba yon?

FYI, di kelangan ni Manalo ang money dahil mayaman siya to begin with. We can't say the same for Ryan. Sa case ni Ryan, open pa talaga ang lolo sa pag-amin. If you still think BJ was bought, you can ask his former AHS buds and they will tell you otherwise.

The days of true amateurism are long gone? This I definitely do not agree with. Contrary to your belief, hindi lahat ng tao nakukuha sa ganyan. My point is, dapat huli na si Ryan sa mga binibigyan ng special treatment. Ang bata naman, kung gusto talaga, lalapit yan.

Ang mayaman di nagnanakaw. Mga mahihirap lang ang nagnanakaw. Ya, tama yon. Naniniwala ako don. Yun ang experience natin sa Pilipinas. Mahihirap lang ang criminal. Walang criminal na mayaman.

[keener]

Ang mayaman di nagnanakaw. Mga mahihirap lang ang nagnanakaw. Ya, tama yon. Naniniwala ako don. Yun ang experience natin sa Pilipinas. Mahihirap lang ang criminal. Walang criminal na mayaman.

Aba. Wala akong kinalaman diyan. Basta kami, maginhawa buhay namin at di kami nagnanakaw.*peace*

Ewan ko sa mga taga- Ateneo. ;);)

[paralusi]

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/ptr0142l.jpg

[Pundit]

Aba. Wala akong kinalaman diyan. Basta kami, maginhawa buhay namin at di kami nagnanakaw.*peace*

Ewan ko sa mga taga- Ateneo. ;);)

Naks. Don't be so defensive. This is not about you. This is about your statements condemning Buenafe and exonerating Manalo simply because of your perceived difference in their status in life.

Ikaw, milyonaryo ka na, sige na. Kung yan ang ikaliligaya mo e.

[keener]

Naks. Don't be so defensive. This is not about you. This is about your statements condemning Buenafe and exonerating Manalo simply because of your perceived difference in their status in life.

Ikaw, milyonaryo ka na, sige na. Kung yan ang ikaliligaya mo e.

I think you did not get my point. You were being sarcastic that rich people steal money. Nagagalit ka kasi kagad e I agree with you naman. If you need more explanation, take your products in the governement... Mayayaman, matatalino, atenista, at magnanakaw.

Wag ka magalit kasi kagad. Marami namang mayayamang magnanakaw. Sinasabi ko lang, di yon ang turo sa amin. :)

About Ryan vs. BJ, alam naman natin na di ganun kayaman sila Ryan. My ultimate point being, hindi na kelangan ang pera kasi ang bata, he will go to where he really wants. Take Chris Tiu as an example.

Ok?

Relax ka lang kasi. Baka ma-aneurysm ka.

[Pundit]

Henceforth, I will be more understanding of keener. He/she has an obvious desperate need to feel important that's why his/her posts always call attention to him/herself.

Not relevant, but he/she just has to say that she is in "grad school". Not relevant but he/she has to say that his/her family is living a comfortable life. He/she discriminates against the poor.

It is clear that He/She wants to be known as an accomplished, rich individual, so I will give it to him/her.

You are the best, keener. You are my idol. You are the richest, most accomplished person in the world.

[blue&green]

FYI, di kelangan ni Manalo ang money dahil mayaman siya to begin with.

which makes it worse diba? it all came down to greed.

We can't say the same for Ryan. Sa case ni Ryan, open pa talaga ang lolo sa pag-amin.

if my memory serves me right, lumabas to sa Pex dati pa. so am i right to assume that this came from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from some other friend and you heard/read as a poster?

If you still think BJ was bought, you can ask his former AHS buds and they will tell you otherwise.

the keyword there, my friend, is buds. they are buddies, friends or whatever you want to call them. do you think they will speak bad of BJ? no. what kind of friend will do such a thing?

The days of true amateurism are long gone? This I definitely do not agree with. Contrary to your belief, hindi lahat ng tao nakukuha sa ganyan. My point is, dapat huli na si Ryan sa mga binibigyan ng special treatment. Ang bata naman, kung gusto talaga, lalapit yan.

excuse me po, matagal na pong lumapit si ryan buenafe sa ateneo... kung alam mo lang...

[keener]

which makes it worse diba? it all came down to greed.

Greed? Because he chose to transfer dahil he wanted to benefit from the program? I don't think that's greed.

if my memory serves me right, lumabas to sa Pex dati pa. so am i right to assume that this came from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from some other friend and you heard/read as a poster?

The news was not exclusive to PEX alone. More credible forums reported this as well.

the keyword there, my friend, is buds. they are buddies, friends or whatever you want to call them. do you think they will speak bad of BJ? no. what kind of friend will do such a thing?

You're taking this position assuming that BJ's friends would lie for him and that he transferred for perks which I believe otherwise.

The thing with BJ, he is your product. Sad to see that you are all crucifying him still instead of being proud of him for having the guts to do something so courageous.

excuse me po, matagal na pong lumapit si ryan buenafe sa ateneo... kung alam mo lang...

Precisely my point. There was no other place for him to be. This drives me back to my original point that Ateneo wasted resources in courting Ryan because he was all theirs to begin with.

Gets?

[BigBloo]

^ keener just shot herself in the foot. butas agad argument nya! :rotflmao:

1.5 pala ha.

[keener]

^ keener just shot himself in the foot. butas agad argument nya! :rotflmao:

1.5 pala ha.

Nasan ang butas?

Kakasagot ko lang.:)


Masyado kayong sensitive sa mga ganyang topic. Pero kung makabanat kayo...;)

[BigBloo]

you really dont see it? :rollingeyes:

says a lot about your education. :lol:

[dlsukid]

wow sabay education ang banat.

talk about envy.

[BigBloo]

awww.. dalawa na kayo. good for you keener, you're not alone. here, let me help you.


Precisely my point. There was no other place for him to be. This drives me back to my original point that Ateneo wasted resources in courting Ryan because he was all theirs to begin with.


now where, pray tell, is the logic in that?

[keener]

wow sabay education ang banat.

talk about envy.

Hayaan mo na. Di kasi siya maka-sabat so nakiki-react-react nalang siya on the side. :depressed:

[keener]

awww.. dalawa na kayo. good for you keener, you're not alone. here, let me help you.



now where, pray tell, is the logic in that?

Sino ngayon ang hindi maka-intindi?:lol:

[blue&green]

Greed? Because he chose to transfer dahil he wanted to benefit from the program? I don't think that's greed.

i am talking about the money here. greed of money. let's get the accusations here straight. you claimed that buenafe accepted money. some here claimed bj accepted money. so, hypothetically speaking, if both of them are true and as you said, bj is rich and does not need the money, then that makes bj worse than buenafe as for him, it all came down to greed.


The news was not exclusive to PEX alone. More credible forums reported this as well.

ah yeah.. some other forum. like APcom. still does not refute my claim that all of this is just mere hearsay. the poster in Pex read about it from a poster in (name the site) who read about it from a poster in (name another site), (and the list goes on), who, finally, allegedly heard it from his grandfather.



You're taking this position assuming that BJ's friends would lie for him and that he transferred for perks which I believe otherwise.

wouldn't protect your friend? just like what i posted before, they are friends. and besides, do you think bj is stupid enough to tell information that sensitive to others?

The thing with BJ, he is your product. Sad to see that you are all crucifying him still instead of being proud of him for having the guts to do something so courageous.

who ever said i am crucifying him? only him and God know if the accusations are true, and until others prove to me that it is true then he is still innocent in my book. tulad ng sabi ko, i am talking on the assumption of a hypothetical situation (of which both accusations are true, but i don't believe they are).



Precisely my point. There was no other place for him to be. This drives me back to my original point that Ateneo wasted resources in courting Ryan because he was all theirs to begin with.


wasted resources? i'd rather not elaborate more as we will go back to the argument:
the poster in Pex read about it from a poster in (name the site) who read about it from a poster in (name another site), (and the list goes on), who, finally, allegedly heard it from his grandfather

[Pundit]

Sino ngayon ang hindi maka-intindi?:lol:

Wag nyong kakataluhin ito is keener. Bukod sa pagiging accomplished (grad student), galing pa sa mayaman na pamilya. At mababa ang tingin nyan sa mahirap kaya i-check nyo muna mga bank account ninyo bago ninyo patusin ito.

Keener, you should run for Senator at least.

[dlsukid]

tagalugin mo kase para maintindihan nya.

pang-Pundit lang kase yung english eh.

[BigBloo]

pundit, you're right. my bad. akala ko kasi tinuturo ang logic sa kanila. di na pala, mga tipong astrophysics, molecular biology at caregiving ang pala mga inaaral nya.

[keener]

i am talking about the money here. greed of money. let's get the accusations here straight. you claimed that buenafe accepted money. some here claimed bj accepted money. so, hypothetically speaking, if both of them are true and as you said, bj is rich and does not need the money, then that makes bj worse than buenafe as for him, it all came down to greed.

Dito palang, di mo na ko maintindihan. My point is that I do not believe BJ accepted money because he did not need it. That is why greed is not an issue. I believe that BJ did not accept money because he did not need it and that he came to Taft for the program. I also personally believe that Ryan got some kind of monetary compensation either through the said 1.5 or through the 200k that was supposedly given to his former school to release his papers. That's my personal opinion.

ah yeah.. some other forum. like APcom. still does not refute my claim that all of this is just mere hearsay. the poster in Pex read about it from a poster in (name the site) who read about it from a poster in (name another site), (and the list goes on), who, finally, allegedly heard it from his grandfather.

Hindi lang sa apcom, tito. Try GF and A.net.

wouldn't protect your friend? just like what i posted before, they are friends. and besides, do you think bj is stupid enough to tell information that sensitive to others?

who ever said i am crucifying him? only him and God know if the accusations are true, and until others prove to me that it is true then he is still innocent in my book. tulad ng sabi ko, i am talking on the assumption of a hypothetical situation (of which both accusations are true, but i don't believe they are).


Again, I believe there was nothing for BJ's friends to hide. So I don't see why kelangan maging argument ang sinasabi mong pinagtatakpan siya ng mga atenista friends nya. Hindi naman siguro sinungaling ang mga taong yon, diba? And the crucifixion remark is not just for you but for your community wherein marami parin ang di maka-move on.

wasted resources? i'd rather not elaborate more as we will go back to the argument:

Ang akin lang, tanggapin mo na mali pagkabasa mo sa sinabi ko. I never contended that Ryan wasn't going to Ateneo. In fact, di na namin inasahan na mapupunta siya samen. So I don't see why you have to react negatively na "excuse me.. matgal na lumapit si Ryan" coz I never said otherwise. ;)

[silvio]

The news was not exclusive to PEX alone. More credible forums reported this as well.

Mawalang-galang na po, miss pero anong more credible forums po ba yan? archerpride? ga? :rolleyes:


The thing with BJ, he is your product. Sad to see that you are all crucifying him still instead of being proud of him for having the guts to do something so courageous.

I was trying to go around this topic but the incessant mention of BJ's name and reputation has forced my hand. What happened to BJ was wrong and I agree that it took an incredible amount of courage on his part to get through that phase of his young life. But do not kid yourself. To say that BJ opted to go to DLSU on his own is just not entirely true. You can tell yourselves your own version of the story - that BJ went because of a superior basketball program (which is arguably true) - but the truth is it wasn't as simple as that. Without going into details, let's just say that BJ was a dutiful son to a father who could not have anticipated how his decisions can adversely affect his son's future. Call me romantic, but I still firmly believe that, had BJ been allowed to make his own decision, he would've stayed in Loyola Heights.


Precisely my point. There was no other place for him to be. This drives me back to my original point that Ateneo wasted resources in courting Ryan because he was all theirs to begin with.


If only you knew the truth, and not the tricked out, pimped out version that has made its way to this and similar forums, I'm sure you would keep your mouth shut regarding the "resources" spent on Ryan. Those who are aware of the facts have opted not to touch the rumor any more since, well, it's a silly rumor that is obviously meant to discredit his reputation. To dignify the rumor with any form of damage control was simply not an option for those in the know. After all, those who refuse to see the truth will flat out shoot down anything that says otherwise anyway.

Whish is why I was (pleasantly) surprised that a somewhat watered down version of the truth found its way in another forum, and was even copy-pasted here by a new alternick. Well, at least there's some truth to what my grandma once told me: "Lalabas at lalabas ang katotohanan."

So I suggest, my dear Keener (nice legs, by the way), that you seriously consider the content of your posts before hitting the Submit Reply button. Napagpipistahan ka tuloy ng iba dyan.


Again, nice legs.

[Pound4Pound]

you really dont see it? :rollingeyes:

says a lot about your education. :lol:

You know what? It is actually possible for you to discuss things in a level-headed manner.

Have you even actually thought of that? Or should I tell you as somebody who's neither a graduate of any UAAP school I am less inclined to believe you since you back your arguments with provoking insults.

:rolleyes:

[Pundit]

Mawalang-galang na po, miss pero anong more credible forums po ba yan? archerpride? ga? :rolleyes:



I was trying to go around this topic but the incessant mention of BJ's name and reputation has forced my hand. What happened to BJ was wrong and I agree that it took an incredible amount of courage on his part to get through that phase of his young life. But do not kid yourself. To say that BJ opted to go to DLSU on his own is just not entirely true. You can tell yourselves your own version of the story - that BJ went because of a superior basketball program (which is arguably true) - but the truth is it wasn't as simple as that. Without going into details, let's just say that BJ was a dutiful son to a father who could not have anticipated how his decisions can adversely affect his son's future. Call me romantic, but I still firmly believe that, had BJ been allowed to make his own decision, he would've stayed in Loyola Heights.

So I suggest, my dear Keener (nice legs, by the way), that you seriously consider the content of your posts before hitting the Submit Reply button. Napagpipistahan ka tuloy ng iba dyan.


Again, nice legs.


Two points:

1. That BJ's heart was never with La Salle was proven by the fact that he tried to stage an Ateneo comeback (albeit unsuccessful) in his last year of eligibility.

2. You raise a good point. Keener, aside from having an impressive resume (she is a grad student) and wealth, also has nice legs. She should be made queen of the world.

[paralusi]

the old man who reportedly uttered the statements in question, when he uttered it, was he wearing a sign on his neck saying "APO KO SI RYAN BUENAFE"?

thank god for the hearsay rule.

[keener]

Mawalang-galang na po, miss pero anong more credible forums po ba yan? archerpride? ga? :rolleyes:

No tito. Gameface and A.net.


I was trying to go around this topic but the incessant mention of BJ's name and reputation has forced my hand. What happened to BJ was wrong and I agree that it took an incredible amount of courage on his part to get through that phase of his young life. But do not kid yourself. To say that BJ opted to go to DLSU on his own is just not entirely true. You can tell yourselves your own version of the story - that BJ went because of a superior basketball program (which is arguably true) - but the truth is it wasn't as simple as that. Without going into details, let's just say that BJ was a dutiful son to a father who could not have anticipated how his decisions can adversely affect his son's future. Call me romantic, but I still firmly believe that, had BJ been allowed to make his own decision, he would've stayed in Loyola Heights.

We all have our opinions about why he transferred, tito. I even agree that perhaps, a part of him wanted to stay. However, I stick to my beliefs that with or without the encouragement of others, BJ transferred for the program and other reasons but certainly not for MONEY.


If only you knew the truth, and not the tricked out, pimped out version that has made its way to this and similar forums, I'm sure you would keep your mouth shut regarding the "resources" spent on Ryan. Those who are aware of the facts have opted not to touch the rumor any more since, well, it's a silly rumor that is obviously meant to discredit his reputation. To dignify the rumor with any form of damage control was simply not an option for those in the know. After all, those who refuse to see the truth will flat out shoot down anything that says otherwise anyway.

Whish is why I was (pleasantly) surprised that a somewhat watered down version of the truth found its way in another forum, and was even copy-pasted here by a new alternick. Well, at least there's some truth to what my grandma once told me: "Lalabas at lalabas ang katotohanan."

So I suggest, my dear Keener (nice legs, by the way), that you seriously consider the content of your posts before hitting the Submit Reply button. Napagpipistahan ka tuloy ng iba dyan.


I don't mind that the ateneans are reacting strongly against it, tito. However, since this is, after all, a forum. I stick to my personal beliefs. If you wish to back read, I had a lot of good words regarding Ryan's game. It just got out of proportion with some people overreacted about certain things when my lone point lang naman was that Ryan was nobody else's but Ateneo's and that MVP shouldn't have had exerted too much effort to court him. Yun lamang.

Again, nice legs.

Thank you po. :)

[Pound4Pound]

the old man who reportedly uttered the statements in question, when he uttered it, was he wearing a sign on his neck saying "APO KO SI RYAN BUENAFE"?

thank god for the hearsay rule.

Si Paralusi

Doesn't say much

Pero malaman ang mga banat

:lol:

Kung baga sa basketball, off the bench player ito that will drop 50 pts. on the opposing team all of a sudden. :glee:

[silvio]

No tito. Gameface and A.net.



We all have our opinions about why he transferred, tito. I even agree that perhaps, a part of him wanted to stay. However, I stick to my beliefs that with or without the encouragement of others, BJ transferred for the program and other reasons but certainly not for MONEY.



I don't mind that the ateneans are reacting strongly against it, tito. However, since this is, after all, a forum. I stick to my personal beliefs. If you wish to back read, I had a lot of good words regarding Ryan's game. It just got out of proportion with some people overreacted about certain things when my lone point lang naman was that Ryan was nobody else's but Ateneo's and that MVP shouldn't have had exerted too much effort to court him. Yun lamang.



Thank you po. :)


Points taken. At the end of the day, you know what they say about opinions and @$$holes. :)

By the way, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you? ;)

[Pundit]

I don't mind that the ateneans are reacting strongly against it, tito. However, since this is, after all, a forum. I stick to my personal beliefs. If you wish to back read, I had a lot of good words regarding Ryan's game. It just got out of proportion with some people overreacted about certain things when my lone point lang naman was that Ryan was nobody else's but Ateneo's and that MVP shouldn't have had exerted too much effort to court him. Yun lamang.



Thank you po. :)


1. Would you admit that your belief regarding Buenafe's alleged pay-off is based on rumor alone?

2. Do you think that your statements regarding your own accomplishments (grad school) and wealth are in any way relevant to the discussions in this forum? If your answer is NO, then would you admit that you volunteered that info just to showoff?

Thanks.

[blue&green]

Dito palang, di mo na ko maintindihan. My point is that I do not believe BJ accepted money because he did not need it. That is why greed is not an issue. I believe that BJ did not accept money because he did not need it and that he came to Taft for the program. I also personally believe that Ryan got some kind of monetary compensation either through the said 1.5 or through the 200k that was supposedly given to his former school to release his papers. That's my personal opinion.

miss, i feel that you are the one who does not understand me. uulitin ko po, i am talking about a hypothetical situation wherein both of them accepted money. you assumed that ryan accepted the money. am i not free to assume bj did the same thing?

the logic of a person not accepting money because of him or her not needing it is absurd. there is no such thing as diminishing marginal utility when it comes to money. people, by nature, are nonsatiated when it comes to money.



Hindi lang sa apcom, tito. Try GF and A.net.

yup i saw that in gameface. and the usual suspects were the ones who claimed those things. punta ka apcom and gameface, same posters din naman ang nasa GAR of gameface and apcom.

and to add to that, all you can post here are internet sites in which you can't something as that credible. again, mere hearsay.



Again, I believe there was nothing for BJ's friends to hide. So I don't see why kelangan maging argument ang sinasabi mong pinagtatakpan siya ng mga atenista friends nya. Hindi naman siguro sinungaling ang mga taong yon, diba? And the crucifixion remark is not just for you but for your community wherein marami parin ang di maka-move on.

there is nothing to hide? perhaps. but do you really know if there is nothing to hide? are you 100% sure that there is nothing to hide? the fact is, there is still a probability that the accusations are true and vice-versa.



Ang akin lang, tanggapin mo na mali pagkabasa mo sa sinabi ko. I never contended that Ryan wasn't going to Ateneo. In fact, di na namin inasahan na mapupunta siya samen. So I don't see why you have to react negatively na "excuse me.. matgal na lumapit si Ryan" coz I never said otherwise. ;)

onga nagkamali ako ng basa :lol: pasensya na tao lang :rotflmao: *okay*

pero still, you, in return, should admit that the sources you cited are, well, not that credible. :D

[keener]

1. Would you admit that your belief regarding Buenafe's alleged pay-off is based on rumor alone?

A rumor is that which is left unverified. I think we all know how people around the boy himself verified that.

The thing with you, pag sa ibang team, mahilig ka manggatong. Pero pag team mo, pinepersonal mo. :)

2. Do you think that your statements regarding your own accomplishments (grad school) and wealth are in any way relevant to the discussions in this forum? If your answer is NO, then would you admit that you volunteered that info just to showoff?

Thanks.

Why are you still making everything about me? Just because I mentioned something personal to Pizza Guy?

Your infatuation was cute at first... Now it's creepy.:hmm:

[paralusi]

a certification from a government agency, say the National Educational Testing and Research Center of the DepEd, would be a very good example of "credible verification."

words coming from an old man wearing a big sign on his neck saying "APO KO SI RYAN BUENAFE" really does not have any evidentiary weight whatsoever.

but that's just me.

[Pound4Pound]

hoy Pundit

Imbis na si keener ang "manyakan" mo diyan eh ito na pagfiestahan mo sa mga panaginip mo

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w127/JoeZYCArielLYC4eva/ChaeYeon48.jpg

Tatamaan sa akin ang maglakas loob na magsabi eh mukhang TUHOD itong babaeng ito. OK? *peace*

[keener]

miss, i feel that you are the one who does not understand me. uulitin ko po, i am talking about a hypothetical situation wherein both of them accepted money. you assumed that ryan accepted the money. am i not free to assume bj did the same thing?

Yun nga. Mahirap makipagtalo kasi the hypothetical situation that you have is not the same one as the one I am defending.

the logic of a person not accepting money because of him or her not needing it is absurd. there is no such thing as diminishing marginal utility when it comes to money. people, by nature, are nonsatiated when it comes to money.

I already answered this a while ago. Yes, I agree that wealthy people do get blinded by money as well. However, given BJ's context, do you actually thing he was bought? They said that they gave him an f-150. Did they actually believe that he could not afford that?

yup i saw that in gameface. and the usual suspects were the ones who claimed those things. punta ka apcom and gameface, same posters din naman ang nasa GAR of gameface and apcom.

and to add to that, all you can post here are internet sites in which you can't something as that credible. again, mere hearsay.

I think it won't be discussed at Atenista.net if it was pure bull. Di lang naman sa Gameface and Apcom yun e.

there is nothing to hide? perhaps. but do you really know if there is nothing to hide? are you 100% sure that there is nothing to hide? the fact is, there is still a probability that the accusations are true and vice-versa.

Yes. I believe that there is nothing to hide. If there was, they wouldn't attend the bible studies with BJ. Kalokohan na yon, diba?

onga nagkamali ako ng basa :lol: pasensya na tao lang :rotflmao: *okay*

pero still, you, in return, should admit that the sources you cited are, well, not that credible. :D

No worries. Lahat naman nagkakamali. The sources are as credible as me and you. And in the end, I stand by my beliefs as strongly as I feel about Ryan's game.

[dlsukid]

Nood na muna kayo ng UAAP. break muna lahat. mamaya na lang ulet.

[pulangpula]

hoy Pundit

Imbis na si keener ang "manyakan" mo diyan eh ito na pagfiestahan mo sa mga panaginip mo

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w127/JoeZYCArielLYC4eva/ChaeYeon48.jpg

Tatamaan sa akin ang maglakas loob na magsabi eh mukhang TUHOD itong babaeng ito. OK? *peace*

bakit ganun? pantay dibdib at tuhod niya...

[blue&green]

Yun nga. Mahirap makipagtalo kasi the hypothetical situation that you have is not the same one as the one I am defending.

cge, let's rest this issue since we have different ways on looking at it.

*peace*

I already answered this a while ago. Yes, I agree that wealthy people do get blinded by money as well. However, given BJ's context, do you actually thing he was bought? They said that they gave him an f-150. Did they actually believe that he could not afford that?

again, economics states that a free item (in this case, a car) is wanted more than an item of the same kind but with a large price. kahit simple supply and demand graph mapapakita yan.


I think it won't be discussed at Atenista.net if it was pure bull. Di lang naman sa Gameface and Apcom yun e.

i am a frequent of a.net and i think that stemmed up when people from other schools started throwing some accusations. and please do realize that not all a.net posters are from ateneo and some do come from DLSU.


Yes. I believe that there is nothing to hide. If there was, they wouldn't attend the bible studies with BJ. Kalokohan na yon, diba?

then again, who knows? it's like equating truthfulness to the religious practice of people and if you do that, yan ang kalokohan. i have friends in DLSU who go to mass with me and they do some not so good things. can you say that kalokohan din un?



No worries. Lahat naman nagkakamali. The sources are as credible as me and you. And in the end, I stand by my beliefs as strongly as I feel about Ryan's game.

Yup they are as credible as me and you so until facts are presented, i think believing in those kinds of accusations are, well, foolish. just like what our justice system says, people should be treated innocent until proven guilty. and that means basing your opinions on facts presented and not hearsays.

[Pound4Pound]

bakit ganun? pantay dibdib at tuhod niya...

Niyak! :lol:

d kaya sa camera lang yun? hehe.

Btw...sikat na singer yan sa SoKor....:D

[Chan Ho Nam]

I'm starting to become excited on pound4pound's post.:lol:

[Pound4Pound]

I'm starting to become excited on pound4pound's post.:lol:

:lol:

at ako naman excited para kay Pundit kapag sumarap ang mga panaginip dahil sa pic ng hot chick-singer na yun :glee:

[Pundit]

A rumor is that which is left unverified. I think we all know how people around the boy himself verified that.



What do you mean by this? You have an admission from Buenafe himself?

[Pundit]

Why are you still making everything about me? Just because I mentioned something personal to Pizza Guy?



This I don't get. Your messages in a public forum are public, whether they are directed towards a particular pexer or otherwise. So, when you broadcast your "status" as an ALLEGED grad school student, you are boasting and calling attention to yourself.

And, to add to that, and to support the impression that you need attention for yourself, you proudly proclaim that you come from a wealthy family.

Now, the question simply is this: Why do you do those things?

[twelve_12]

:rotflmao: maybe one day, people here can make and broadcast UAAP's own "The Buzz!" :rotflmao:

para sa mga chismoso at chismosa sa UAAP world :rotflmao:

Mga atenista ang number 1 diyan (i.e. kris aquino and boy abunda).

[dlsukid]

This I don't get. Your messages in a public forum are public, whether they are directed towards a particular pexer or otherwise. So, when you broadcast your "status" as an ALLEGED grad school student, you are boasting and calling attention to yourself.

And, to add to that, and to support the impression that you need attention for yourself, you proudly proclaim that you come from a wealthy family.

Now, the question simply is this: Why do you do those things?


si Pundit lang daw kase pansinin natin.

[philippeVIII]

butata na naman si kuya germs! bwahahaha:rotflmao:

[Pundit]

Keener, I'm still waiting for your response if you have an admission from Buenafe himself.

[Kaeleb#26]

hahaha magulo na rin tong thread nato!! courtesy of pundit! Atenista ka ba talaga?

[philippeVIII]

hahaha magulo na rin tong thread nato!! courtesy of pundit! Atenista ka ba talaga?

kaya nga kuya GERMS dapat tawag dyan! dumudumi mga threads pag sya na nag post! bwahahaha:rotflmao:

[last.dodo.bird]

hahaha magulo na rin tong thread nato!! courtesy of pundit! Atenista ka ba talaga?
:lol: @ your avatar

hoy creative pic ni rico yan sa yearbook ah. *** ha... rico-fetish...

hehehe.

sino next na kalaban ng admu? hope buenafe keeps on putting up those good numbers and playing great team ball *okay*

[dlsukid]

creative ba? or subconscious nya? hehehe joke joke joke.

i think guaranteed points talaga si buenafe.
kung wala lang si Tiu ***** mas mataas pa yan.

[last.dodo.bird]

i think guaranteed points talaga si buenafe.
kung wala lang si Tiu ***** mas mataas pa yan.
oo nga eh. right now, third option na ng Blue Eagles si Buenafe behind Tiu and Rabah, and he's just in his rookie year.

next year with Tiu out, puputok pa to lalo...

[keener]

oo nga eh. right now, third option na ng Blue Eagles si Buenafe behind Tiu and Rabah, and he's just in his rookie year.

next year with Tiu out, puputok pa to lalo...

The only thing the Eagles have to worry about is the LBJ syndrome. Remember how they used to criticize the rest of LBJ's teammates by tending to become "spectators" themselves every time LeBron is in his element?

Dapat lang di yon mangyari sa teammates ni Ryan next season. He drops good passes. Dapat lang ready to convert ang teammates niya.

How many years does Rabeh have left?

[seta0520]

@topic - Ryan is good stat wise for a rookie nuff said...
@rumors of alleged payoff/any rumor for that matter - Docs/Pics or it NEVER happened...simple enough no?
@pic of hot girl on previous pages (no not ms. legs over here but rather the one on the boat(?)) - FUKKEN SAVED...and...MOAAR PLOX... :D

[blue&green]

Mga atenista ang number 1 diyan (i.e. kris aquino and boy abunda).

tapos ang tagapakinig kayo diba? kasi hilig nyo sa chismis eh :rotflmao:

o kaya nama'y kayo yung host na lang ng UAAP version kasi mahilig talaga kayo sa chismis :rotflmao:

[blue&green]

The only thing the Eagles have to worry about is the LBJ syndrome. Remember how they used to criticize the rest of LBJ's teammates by tending to become "spectators" themselves every time LeBron is in his element?

Dapat lang di yon mangyari sa teammates ni Ryan next season. He drops good passes. Dapat lang ready to convert ang teammates niya.

How many years does Rabeh have left?

the LBJ syndrome hasn't shown yet this season. Thank God for that. it would be interesting how the team would perform next season when the other offensive option, chris tiu, leaves ateneo.

rabeh ata has one or two more seasons left :)

[twelve_12]

tapos ang tagapakinig kayo diba? kasi hilig nyo sa chismis eh :rotflmao:

o kaya nama'y kayo yung host na lang ng UAAP version kasi mahilig talaga kayo sa chismis :rotflmao:

FYI, never ako nakinig sa kahit na sinong atenista.

Again, FYI, kayong mga atenista ang pinaka chismosa dito sa UAAP.

[nwebhost]

lol kinocompare siya kay lebron james...

[blue&green]

FYI, never ako nakinig sa kahit na sinong atenista.


syempre ang inisip nya chismis sa artista :rolleyes::rotflmao:

Again, FYI, kayong mga atenista ang pinaka chismosa dito sa UAAP.

ehem... sige sabi mo eh... kami pala yung sigaw ng sigaw ng 1.5 na chismis dito, ano? :rotflmao:

[keener]

the LBJ syndrome hasn't shown yet this season. Thank God for that. it would be interesting how the team would perform next season when the other offensive option, chris tiu, leaves ateneo.



I honestly think that for them to be successful, they can't have it like before where they let Chris explode then kulang sa support. If they really plan to build a dynasty with the 4 horsemen, there should be balanced scoring c/o eric, kirk, ryan, nico, nonoy, and rabeh. With at least 3 of them having 10+ppg.

Interesting to see how the big chinese kid is not getting as much playing time as salva and ryan. Diba siya rin ang expected to be a big contributor this season?

[blue&green]

lol kinocompare siya kay lebron james...

:rotflmao: ni-literal :rotflmao:

the subject of our sentences is LBJ syndrome.

i do hope you are joking :D

[blue&green]

Interesting to see how the big chinese kid is not getting as much playing time as salva and ryan. Diba siya rin ang expected to be a big contributor this season?

i don't think anything is expected of him for now. maybe next season or the season after that but now, the only rookie that is expected to have an impact is ryan. wala siyang space sa rotation. he is a 5, a position that ateneo is full in. the rotation normally includes jobe, rabeh and mike. kaya nga whenever ateneo plays a non-F4 contender, i always pray that they take a huge lead early so that the second and third stringers can play as well.

[Pound4Pound]

then again, who knows? it's like equating truthfulness to the religious practice of people and if you do that, yan ang kalokohan. i have friends in DLSU who go to mass with me and they do some not so good things. can you say that kalokohan din un?

People are not perfect.

Pero kung authenticated truthfulness ang hinahanap mo sa tao, eh tingnan mo na lang up-close ang pagkatao niya at ang pamumuhay niya. :)

[keener]

then again, who knows? it's like equating truthfulness to the religious practice of people and if you do that, yan ang kalokohan. i have friends in DLSU who go to mass with me and they do some not so good things. can you say that kalokohan din un?

People are not perfect.

Pero kung authenticated truthfulness ang hinahanap mo sa tao, eh tingnan mo na lang up-close ang pagkatao niya at ang pamumuhay niya. :)

Oh... And naman, pastor na si BJ diba?

[Pound4Pound]

Oh... And naman, pastor na si BJ diba?

Yep. Sports missionary/pastor for Athletes in Action, the sports arm of Campus Crusade for Christ :)

[blue&green]

Yep. Sports missionary/pastor for Athletes in Action, the sports arm of Campus Crusade for Christ :)

Good for him. It's just sad that he was not able to pursue a professional career.

[heather1]

he came from what school back in HS? sa admu or he came from zobel?

[blue&green]

^

ADMU or AHS po.

[adiksakatol]

oh man! ryan buenafe is a monster. i hate to admit it but i think he will lead the blue eagles to at least 1 championship in the next 5 years.



ANIMO La Salle!

[Trevi]

Nakakatawa mga La Salista. Maghahamon, tapos ililihis pag talo na.

Sabi nila, Bagatsing vs. Buenafe daw. Tapos Buenafe v. Webb. Pag nakitang talo manok nila, magiimbento na lang -- "buti na lang sulit bayad nyo etc."

Tapos, mas magaling daw si Buenafe kasi matanda na yon. Nung malaman na 18 pa lang (born 1990, and younger than Webb by a few months and Bagatsing by 4 years), insinuate na lang na baka peke ang birth certificate. Nakakapagtaka kung ganon kasi nagpapakamatay si Pumaren na ipasok yun sa 18 and under RP youth. Kung totoo ang bintang, nakahanda ba sana si Franz na magpasok ng overage sa RP team?

Tapos bobo daw. Pero hinabol ni Pumaren ng husto. Ready ipasok sa La Salle. Inaamin nyo ba na ang bobo puede pumasok sa La Salle?

Tapos pangit daw. Wala na akong sagot dyan. Tameme na ako pag ganyan ang argumento.

This post is so true...and so funny :rotflmao:..sumakit ang tiyan ko.
Kudos to you Pundit *okay*

[nwebhost]

:rotflmao: ni-literal :rotflmao:

the subject of our sentences is LBJ syndrome.

i do hope you are joking :D


lol baka may "LBJ syndrome" daw siya :lol:

[therapist20069]

I'm getting impatient waiting for the following threads to appear:

1. VILLANUEVA vs. (buenafe)

2. BATRIVERIC vs. "buenafe"

3. REVILLA vs. buenafe*

4. BAGATSING vs. b*****e,

5. WEBB vs. efaneub


Wala pa ba? :rotflmao:

[about face]

Nakakatawa mga La Salista. Maghahamon, tapos ililihis pag talo na.

Sabi nila, Bagatsing vs. Buenafe daw. Tapos Buenafe v. Webb. Pag nakitang talo manok nila, magiimbento na lang -- "buti na lang sulit bayad nyo etc."

Tapos, mas magaling daw si Buenafe kasi matanda na yon. Nung malaman na 18 pa lang (born 1990, and younger than Webb by a few months and Bagatsing by 4 years), insinuate na lang na baka peke ang birth certificate. Nakakapagtaka kung ganon kasi nagpapakamatay si Pumaren na ipasok yun sa 18 and under RP youth. Kung totoo ang bintang, nakahanda ba sana si Franz na magpasok ng overage sa RP team?

Tapos bobo daw. Pero hinabol ni Pumaren ng husto. Ready ipasok sa La Salle. Inaamin nyo ba na ang bobo puede pumasok sa La Salle?

Tapos pangit daw. Wala na akong sagot dyan. Tameme na ako pag ganyan ang argumento.
Di naman siguro sinabing BOBO si Buenafe. Di ba hindi siya pumasa ng ACET? Bobo ba yon?

Palagay ko yung hindi pumasa ng ACET, 'academically challenged' lang, di naman bobo. Marami namang gaya ni Ryan Buenafe na naglalakad sa campus ng Ateneo, kasi halimbawa siya ng typical Ateneo student.

Di BOBO si Ryan, Atenista lang!

[Kambei]

"Di BOBO si Ryan, Atenista lang!"

Ano naman ang ibig sabihib nito?

[radviento]

Palagay ko yung hindi pumasa ng ACET, 'academically challenged' lang, di naman bobo. Marami namang gaya ni Ryan Buenafe na naglalakad sa campus ng Ateneo, kasi halimbawa siya ng typical Ateneo student.

Di BOBO si Ryan, Atenista lang!

about face, are you insinuating that atenians are 'academically challenged'? Big words!!!! I hope that the players of DLSU are not the same as Ryan. I also hope that your graduation rate of your basketball players are also reflective of this academically challenged superiority of DLSU over atenians.

My two cents worth.

[Trevi]

Di naman siguro sinabing BOBO si Buenafe. Di ba hindi siya pumasa ng ACET? Bobo ba yon?

Palagay ko yung hindi pumasa ng ACET, 'academically challenged' lang, di naman bobo. Marami namang gaya ni Ryan Buenafe na naglalakad sa campus ng Ateneo, kasi halimbawa siya ng typical Ateneo student.

Di BOBO si Ryan, Atenista lang!

a Template anti-Ateneo retort ....wala na bang iba ??
wit (among other things) = intelligence. get ? :D

[Pound4Pound]

I'm getting impatient waiting for the following threads to appear:

1. VILLANUEVA vs. (buenafe)

2. BATRIVERIC vs. "buenafe"

3. REVILLA vs. buenafe*

4. BAGATSING vs. b*****e,

5. WEBB vs. efaneub


Wala pa ba? :rotflmao:

You actually find satisfaction in beating a dead horse? Or you find the practice of raising up trivial issues orgasmic?

http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2007/06/THE%20ROCK%20BROW.JPG

[Demon Wings]

Sticks and stones, people. Sticks and stones. :D

The truth is, Franz went to great lengths to try and recruit Ryan. Anyone who says otherwise is talking $#!+. He even attempted to get to Ryan's mom to get her to persuade her son to go Green. For some reason or another, it didn't work. Seems he actually said something which ticked her off.

No reason to sourgrape, though, since the DLSU rooks look pretty impressive as well. Ryan, however, appears to be way ahead of them skill-wise. That's the reason why the brave poster who compared Ryan to guys like BAGATSING and WEBB has become such a laughing stock. It's reminiscent of the priceless "Tiu vs. de Asis" thread of a few years back. :lol:

If you wanna criticize Ryan as a player (which is a little hard to do right now given his performance), then by all means do so. But if all there is to resort to is a bunch of accusations like "bobo, overage, etc.," then I suggest that we let such discussions die a natural death.

As I said, provided that there exists relevant and substantial evidence to back up these claims against Ryan, the proper remedies are more than available. La Salle is opening a law school pretty soon so maybe this concept will be clearer by then. :rotflmao:

Otherwise, just watch the kid play. He's actually not that bad.

[blue&green]

^

They can't criticize Ryan for his skills and talent so they resort to calling him names. See how they go from (name a player) vs Buenafe to Buenafe is (put a negative adjective). A retort that has nothing, not even a single bit, to do with basketball.

[nwebhost]

Sticks and stones, people. Sticks and stones. :D

The truth is, Franz went to great lengths to try and recruit Ryan. Anyone who says otherwise is talking $#!+. He even attempted to get to Ryan's mom to get her to persuade her son to go Green. For some reason or another, it didn't work. Seems he actually said something which ticked her off.

No reason to sourgrape, though, since the DLSU rooks look pretty impressive as well. Ryan, however, appears to be way ahead of them skill-wise. That's the reason why the brave poster who compared Ryan to guys like BAGATSING and WEBB has become such a laughing stock. It's reminiscent of the priceless "Tiu vs. de Asis" thread of a few years back. :lol:

If you wanna criticize Ryan as a player (which is a little hard to do right now given his performance), then by all means do so. But if all there is to resort to is a bunch of accusations like "bobo, overage, etc.," then I suggest that we let such discussions die a natural death.

As I said, provided that there exists relevant and substantial evidence to back up these claims against Ryan, the proper remedies are more than available. La Salle is opening a law school pretty soon so maybe this concept will be clearer by then. :rotflmao:

Otherwise, just watch the kid play. He's actually not that bad.



The truth is, your mother went to great lengths to try and educate Demon Wings. Anyone who says otherwise is talking $#!+. She even attempted to get to your dad to get him to persuade his son to go to school. For some reason or another, it didn't work. Seems she actually said something which ticked him off.

No reason to sourgrape, though, since your mother look pretty impressive. You, however, appears to be way ahead of them squatter-wise. That's the reason why the brave father who compared you to guys like RICKY REYES and RODERICK PAULATE has become such a laughing stock. It's reminiscent of the priceless "Demon Wings vs. Mongoloid" thread of a few years back. :lol:

If you wanna criticize your mom as an educator (which is a little hard to do right now given you're not educated), then by all means do so. But if all there is to resort to is a bunch of accusations like "hindi ka bobo kaya mag-aral ka, etc.," then I suggest that we let such discussions die a natural death.

As I said, provided that there exists relevant and substantial evidence to back up these claims against your sexuality, the proper remedies are more than available. Your mother is opening a nursery school pretty soon so maybe this concept will be clearer by then. :rotflmao:

[Demon Wings]

To the level-headed Green folk out here:

If you guys start thinking of disowning this retard anytime soon, just remember that nobody will take that against you. :lol:

[Borat]

Mahina talaga ang DLSU when it comes to debating. Just read the posts in this thread. No wonder DLSU is excluded from the Global Elite 500 list unlike the Ateneo. It's very scary if the Ateneo beats DLSU even in their lone claim to excellence - basketball. Kakatakot. Be afraid, be very afraid. :rotflmao:

[Demon Wings]

Copy-paste nga ang expertise nito, pare. I'd call it plagiarism, but then I'd have to explain what that word means in 3D pictures and colorful words. :rotflmao:

[rhyanjay]

masyado naman sya over rated...

[blue&green]

masyado naman sya over rated...

overrated? 10.8 ppg 2.8 rpg 2 apg 0.5 bpg 0.2 spg for a rookie fresh out of HS?

[dlsukid]

Mahina talaga ang DLSU when it comes to debating. Just read the posts in this thread. No wonder DLSU is excluded from the Global Elite 500 list unlike the Ateneo. It's very scary if the Ateneo beats DLSU even in their lone claim to excellence - basketball. Kakatakot. Be afraid, be very afraid. :rotflmao:

hindi naman debate/s forte ng DLSU.

math subjects po ang aming popcorn. sad to say ndi kelangan ang math sa forums.

Global Elite 500??? of course we want to be included kaya lang ndi umabot. There's always the next time.

very scary if ateneo beats dlsu in basketball???? actually we feel confident.

bukas laban nyo sa NU...baka nanginginig na mga players nyo... pero no need to panic kase mananalo naman kayo bukas....

sa 2nd round pa siguro kayo sisilatin.
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ndi naman overrated si RB. ***** masyado lang maraming publicity since the ateneo mass he attended last year.

[nwebhost]

Copy-paste nga ang expertise nito, pare. I'd call it plagiarism, but then I'd have to explain what that word means in 3D pictures and colorful words. :rotflmao:


Kabading@n nga ang expertise nito, mare. I'd call it g@yness, but then I'd have to explain what that word means in 3D pictures and colorful words. :rotflmao:

[seta0520]

^ on the mass attendance thing
pics/docs or it NEVER happened

btw, im not being an r-tard or an *** for demanding pics/docs before i believe something...it's just i only want proof before i believe something I read off the net (espc. PEX)... :)

Oh and same goes for the franz pumaren recruitment of buenafe bla bla... pics/docs or it NEVER happened...

[Demon Wings]

Seriously, I'm sure there are more DLSU faithful out there who can debate more intelligently than nweb. La Salle must have a kick-@$$ Special Ed program to be able to accommodate this 'tard. :lol:

[dphx]

OT, dlsukid: Akala ko mas lamang pa rin ang AdMU sa Math kesa DLSU. When I was still an undergrad, I only hear mostly UP and Ateneo students winning in contests and being prominent in the academic circles. Best friend ko kasi one-time contestant sa IMO and a Math instructor at the Ateneo. 'Pag nagkwento siya, wala namang nababanggit na DLSU (Just like me, he doesn't dig that "Ateneo-La Salle" rivalry). That's only my opinion. Back to regular programming.

Siguro, feeling KB24 ngayon si Buenafe dahil sa dami ng haters niya on his freshman year. He's potentially that good, otherwise, no one will waste his/her time ranting. Enough with the overage issue: dami namang players sa ibang UAAP schools ang mukhang tatay na. 'Pag tinabi mo sila kay Buenafe, babyface ang dating niya. Akala niyo naman sa ibang schools diyan "clean cut" image ang lahat ng players nila. 'Di na ako magbabanggit, dapat alam niyo na iyon. Bato-bato sa langit...

Peace.

[dlsukid]

OT, dlsukid: Akala ko mas lamang pa rin ang AdMU sa Math kesa DLSU. When I was still an undergrad, I only hear mostly UP and Ateneo students winning in contests and being prominent in the academic circles. Best friend ko kasi one-time contestant sa IMO and a Math instructor at the Ateneo. 'Pag nagkwento siya, wala namang nababanggit na DLSU (Just like me, he doesn't dig that "Ateneo-La Salle" rivalry). That's only my opinion. Back to regular programming.

Peace.

pinagbasehan ko kase yung mga hinahakot ng DLSU pagdating sa board exams; which are mostly math-related professions. I know my school's strength kaya ko nasabi yun.

Pinansin ko lang yung sinsabi nyang weakness ng DLSU in debates.
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magaling kase si buenafe. medyo maingay lang kase yung recruitment sa kanya kaya yung iba eh ayaw sa kanya.

[blue&green]

pinagbasehan ko kase yung mga hinahakot ng DLSU pagdating sa board exams; which are mostly math-related professions. I know my school's strength kaya ko nasabi yun.

Pinansin ko lang yung sinsabi nyang weakness ng DLSU in debates.
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magaling kase si buenafe. medyo maingay lang kase yung recruitment sa kanya kaya yung iba eh ayaw sa kanya.

tungkol lang sa OT. sir, di ata pwedeng pagbasehan ang board exams since kokonti lang ang courses sa ateneo na kelangan ng board exams. i think the best measure is the number of competitions (where they are both included) won.

[twelve_12]

^

They can't criticize Ryan for his skills and talent so they resort to calling him names. See how they go from (name a player) vs Buenafe to Buenafe is (put a negative adjective). A retort that has nothing, not even a single bit, to do with basketball.

Again, a dose of your own medicine. ateneans have been doing this for years.

Unfortunately for ateneo, mabilis ang karma. All those BS ateneans have been floating around like other teams players being bobo, their "student-athletes" passing the entrance exam, the homegrown issue etc are all coming back to haunt them. Can't wait for next year when their team's only saving grace finally graduates and replaced by another baste classroom genius, bringas.

[Borat]

^ There's a difference. Ateneo's recruits are legitimate, DLSU's are.......... Ehem......

SUS as if hindi niyo alam. :evil_lol:

[dlsukid]

tungkol lang sa OT. sir, di ata pwedeng pagbasehan ang board exams since kokonti lang ang courses sa ateneo na kelangan ng board exams. i think the best measure is the number of competitions (where they are both included) won.

unfortunately, hindi po uso sa school natin ang competitions.
Ang uso sa school natin eh sumali sa competitions na applied science. Ang point ko lang is yes medyo weakness ng lasalle ang debates and related stuffs sa arts pero strength naman ng lasalle ang math-related stuffs and science.

And ang point ko sa board exams ay yung "hinahakot" yung top 10 or top 20. Yung tipong 5 or 6/10 ng top 10 eh hinakot ng La Salle. Against yun sa lahat ng schools na offered ang course na yun and syempre...kanya kanyang cum laude, magna...etc ng bawat school na yun ang kalaban mo hindi lang kayong dalawa.
may accounting at engineering naman sa ateneo diba? may common courses pa rin ang dalawang school. Dun sila magpagalingan sa kung ano meron sa bawat university.

[blue&green]

Again, a dose of your own medicine. ateneans have been doing this for years.

like what a psychologist once said:

Evil is knowing better, but willingly doing worse.

[twelve_12]

^ There's a difference. Ateneo's recruits are legitimate, DLSU's are.......... Ehem......

SUS as if hindi niyo alam. :evil_lol:

Old news. You keep bringing the past up. You embarassed of your CURRENT team?

Next please!

[blue&green]

unfortunately, hindi po uso sa school natin ang competitions.
Ang uso sa school natin eh sumali sa competitions na applied science. Ang point ko lang is yes may weakness ng lasalle ang debates and related stuffs sa arts pero strength naman ng lasalle ang math-related stuffs and science.

And ang point ko sa board exams ay yung "hinahakot" yung top 10 or top 20. Yung tipong 5 or 6/10 ng top 10 eh hinakot ng La Salle. Against yun sa lahat ng schools na offered ang course na yun and syempre...kanya kanyang cum laude, magna...etc ng bawat school na yun ang kalaban mo hindi lang kayong dalawa.
may accounting at engineering naman sa ateneo diba? may common courses pa rin ang dalawang school.

hindi ko naman po sinabi na sa lahat ng competitions eh. sabi ko ang mga competition na sinasalihan lang ng parehong eskwelahan. ang magandang halimbawa ay ang JFINEX competition.

sa ateneo po walang accounting at isang engineering course lang po na kelangan ng board. :)

[dlsukid]

^ There's a difference. Ateneo's recruits are legitimate, DLSU's are.......... Ehem......

SUS as if hindi niyo alam. :evil_lol:

sampolan mo nga ako kung sino sa current line-up ng DLSU.

[twelve_12]

like what a psychologist once said:

Evil is knowing better, but willingly doing worse.

Evil is accusing someone of something, that he himself is guilty of.

[dlsukid]

hindi ko naman po sinabi na sa lahat ng competitions eh. sabi ko ang mga competition na sinasalihan lang ng parehong eskwelahan. ang magandang halimbawa ay ang JFINEX competition.

sa ateneo po walang accounting at isang engineering course lang po na kelangan ng board. :)

aw..ganun ba. hindi kase ako familiar sa curriculum ng ateneo eh. sori. hehe wala palang accounting dun. ang alam ko may nagtop na sa engineering ng ADMU.

hmmmm... ndi ako familiar sa competition na yan...baka mga taga LS building alam yan.

anyway, magkaiba talaga forte ng bawat school. Yung namention na UP and ADMU...i think mas maraming common sa kanila kaya sila ang madalas na napapabalita sa competitions kaysa with DLSU. ang layo na natin. hehehehe. balik na tayo sa topic.

[blue&green]

Evil is accusing someone of something, that he himself is guilty of.

to prevent an argument that will stray off the topic, i'd like to say an idiom as my last reply regarding quotes

whatever floats your boat :)

[blue&green]

aw..ganun ba. hindi kase ako familiar sa curriculum ng ateneo eh. sori. hehe

hmmmm... ndi ako familiar sa competition na yan...baka mga taga LS building alam yan.

anyway, magkaiba talaga forte ng bawat school. Yung namention na UP and ADMU...i think mas maraming common sa kanila kaya sila ang madalas na napapabalita sa competitions kaysa with DLSU. ang layo na natin. hehehehe. balik na tayo sa topic.

Yup, and there is no use in comparing the two magnificent schools :)

back to regular programming :)

[dlsukid]

Yup, and there is no use in comparing the two magnificent schools :)

back to regular programming :)

sablay kase yung iba. hehehehe
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si buenafe pwede ***** gamitan ng individual plays ni norman. mukhang kaya naman nya buhatin sarili nya above his defenders eh.

sila ritualo, cardona at casio may mga plays na para sa kanila lang talaga eh. si buenafe yung player na pwede mo bigyan ng sarili nyang play kahit ngayon pa lang. advantage sya sa position nya eh.

yun nga lang baka masaktan yung pride ng ibang veterans.

[last.dodo.bird]

^ if the veterans know what's good for their team (and i'm talking in general here, not just Ateneo) they should swallow their pride if they see that there's an opportunity for a rookie to realize his potential early on in his career.

ang mas malaking responsibilidad nung veterans eh dapat wag nilang paabutin sa ulo nung rookie yung success at talent niya. wag hayaang lumaki yung ulo. i-keep siyang grounded, humble, down-to-earth at isang team player despite his talent.

ang nakakatakot kay Buenafe at this point is that 4 games into his UAAP seniors career, he's already averaging 10.8ppg, 2.8rpg, 2.0apg, 0.3spg & 0.3bpg... so ewan ko nalang kung matatawag mo pang overrated or overhyped yan... i think he's proving that he's the real deal.

yun nga lang, he should be confident pero at the same time, still play within the system and within the team. sana lang wag lumaki ulo niya. the veterans should keep him in check if they see any signs of that happening.

[twelve_12]

to prevent an argument that will stray off the topic, i'd like to say an idiom as my last reply regarding quotes

whatever floats your boat :)

naks, ayos ah.

ganito lang yan. kayong atenista, wag kayo masyado magyabang at manlait ng ibang players/teams tulad ng:

1) Bobo si player A
2) Bagsakin nung HS si player B
3) Dinaya ang grades ni player C
4) Hindi homegrown ang team A
5) Hindi pumasa sa entrance exam si player D
6) Puro mercenaries ang team B
7) Bayarin si player E
8) Kumukuha ng graduate students ang team C

at kung anu-ano pa, kung ayaw niyong balikan kayo, dahil alam naman nating lahat ng yan ay applicable sa CURRENT team niyo. Sorry na lang kayo at binaboy ni MVP ang basketball program niyo. Mabilis ang karma.

Ok, back to regular programming...

[dphx]

pinagbasehan ko kase yung mga hinahakot ng DLSU pagdating sa board exams; which are mostly math-related professions. I know my school's strength kaya ko nasabi yun.

Pinansin ko lang yung sinsabi nyang weakness ng DLSU in debates.
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magaling kase si buenafe. medyo maingay lang kase yung recruitment sa kanya kaya yung iba eh ayaw sa kanya.

Above-average naman talaga ang performance ng DLSU sa boards, namely Accountancy. My two HS buds finished their Engineering course there and they had nothing but good things to say about the program. Ibang usapan naman sa mismong Math competitions, talagang UP and AdMU lang talaga ang halos nagpapalitan ng first place finishes.

Naangasan din ako kay Buenafe at kutob ko lang na magiging pasaway din iyan pero he has the moves and has even bigger upside that's why I just take the good with the bad. Ika nga, he's a sunnuvabeech, but he's our SOB nonetheless.

OT: Sa Lakers ka rin, di ba? Magpapasaway din kaya si "kapalmukshumingingmax" Bynum?

[nwebhost]

Seriously, I'm sure there are more DLSU faithful out there who can debate more intelligently than nweb. La Salle must have a kick-@$$ Special Ed program to be able to accommodate this 'tard. :lol:


Seriously, I'm sure there are more Ateneo faithful out there who can be g@y more intelligently than Demon. Ateneo must have a kick-@$$ Special Ed program to be able to accommodate this 'tard. :lol:

[dlsukid]

Above-average naman talaga ang performance ng DLSU sa boards, namely Accountancy. My two HS buds finished their Engineering course there and they had nothing but good things to say about the program. Ibang usapan naman sa mismong Math competitions, talagang UP and AdMU lang talaga ang halos nagpapalitan ng first place finishes.

Naangasan din ako kay Buenafe at kutob ko lang na magiging pasaway din iyan pero he has the moves and has even bigger upside that's why I just take the good with the bad. Ika nga, he's a sunnuvabeech, but he's our SOB nonetheless.

OT: Sa Lakers ka rin, di ba? Magpapasaway din kaya si "kapalmukshumingingmax" Bynum?

medyo tahimik or "nasa loob yung kulo" yung dating nya sa games eh. parang inaantay lang nya talaga masolo yung buong team.

maganda tandem nila ni Rabah. na-aatract at na eexploit nya yung defense leaving the big man wide wide open. pero marami pang igagaling to sa loob ng 5 taon. sana may makuha rin kaming super rookie on the future. hehehe

OT: yung pag hingi ni Bynum ng $80m pasaway na nga eh. tumaas yung pricetag nya dahil kay Gasol. kapag nag-ala-Shaq yung laro nya...baka magpasaway yun. pero yet to be seen pa kaya pakuripot muna si Kups.hehehe

[seta0520]

sorry OT: Ateneo has an engineering course? o_O

[blue&green]

naks, ayos ah.

ganito lang yan. kayong atenista, wag kayo masyado magyabang at manlait ng ibang players/teams tulad ng:

1) Bobo si player A
2) Bagsakin nung HS si player B
3) Dinaya ang grades ni player C
4) Hindi homegrown ang team A
5) Hindi pumasa sa entrance exam si player D
6) Puro mercenaries ang team B
7) Bayarin si player E
8) Kumukuha ng graduate students ang team C

at kung anu-ano pa, kung ayaw niyong balikan kayo, dahil alam naman nating lahat ng yan ay applicable sa CURRENT team niyo. Sorry na lang kayo at binaboy ni MVP ang basketball program niyo. Mabilis ang karma.

Ok, back to regular programming...

cge, believe whatever you want to believe. heck, no one is holding you back, right? like what i posted before:

WHATEVER (and i mean whatever) FLOATS YOUR BOAT :D

[blue&green]

sorry OT: Ateneo has an engineering course? o_O

meron nga. :lol:

[twelve_12]

cge, believe whatever you want to believe. heck, no one is holding you back, right? like what i posted before:

WHATEVER (and i mean whatever) FLOATS YOUR BOAT :D

Yes, thank you! Lots of college basketball insiders know the dirt of your basketball program, so please quit the spins. Nagmumukha lang kayong t@nga.

[seta0520]

Crap *** stats for Buenafe in todays game...=/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3249/2706677352_ed3cd11ebb_b.jpg

I'll try to regularly post stat sheets for ADMU games...dunno if its legal though (with copyrights and stuff)? hahahaha :D

OH and this is what I mean by BACKING UP what you say with HARD docs/pics (most people on this forum seem to throw insane remarks without a single shred of evidence to back it up)

ergo...I'm saying Buenafe played crappy today and heres the pic to prove it :) (actually he ddnt "play" so much so meh...) hahahaha XD

[nwebhost]

dahil ba sa "LBJ syndrome" kaya 3 points lang si Ryan "1.5 million" Buenafe?

[seta0520]

LBJ syndrome? meh...maybe...maybe not...i only provide hard stats...no frills, no spins...

too bad people keep insisting on putting up "knowledge" of this and that and of the who's who of UAAP without providing legitimate support for their claims...

again on the 1.5M claim...post documents/pics to support your claim or it NEVER happened... that goes for all the other various hearsay comments....unshooped pics/docs or it NEVER happened

[last.dodo.bird]

oh well, you can't expect him not to have an off-day. the averages still speak for themselves. hehe.

[seta0520]

0/4 FG, 1 RB, 2 PFs, 3 TOs and he played 18 mins... thats more than just having an off-day... o_o but at least he got 2 asts...but still crap game imho... =/

[Demon Wings]

Ryan really looked out of it today. Almost everytime he got the ball, he kicked it back out to the point guard. At most, he'd drive and dish to open teammates and it got him two assists, including that pass leading to a wide open three for Kirk Long that tempered a run by the Bulldogs.

Statistically, it was his worst game so far. But in all practicality, he didn't even look like he was interested in competing. He's been known to do this since high school, coasting in the not-so-important games and exploding in the big ones. Today, he kept deferring to his teammates and attacked the hoop only once or twice.

On the bright side, at least we now know that Ryan isn't the stat-padding type of player. Yun nga lang, it's alarming to note that he didn't even think of bringing his A-game today. Those Bulldogs are dangerous.

[seta0520]

awww...he ain't magis mayhaps...magis = bringing yer A-game everygame...hahaha XD

[twelve_12]

Ryan really looked out of it today. Almost everytime he got the ball, he kicked it back out to the point guard. At most, he'd drive and dish to open teammates and it got him two assists, including that pass leading to a wide open three for Kirk Long that tempered a run by the Bulldogs.

Statistically, it was his worst game so far. But in all practicality, he didn't even look like he was interested in competing. He's been known to do this since high school, coasting in the not-so-important games and exploding in the big ones. Today, he kept deferring to his teammates and attacked the hoop only once or twice.

On the bright side, at least we now know that Ryan isn't the stat-padding type of player. Yun nga lang, it's alarming to note that he didn't even think of bringing his A-game today. Those Bulldogs are dangerous.

The game against cellar-dwelling UP was more important than this highly competitive game? He scored 17 in that game.

[seta0520]

bah...imho ryan SHOULD play well whether it be against cellar dwellers or top teams...

[Demon Wings]

That's the thing though. He was not as aggressive today as he was in that game. For whatever reason, he did not look as active in this game as he was against UE or La Salle. And it's not like NU presented him with a defensive gameplan that he hadn't seen before. He just wasn't in attack mode at any time in this game.

Maybe it's a matter of personality. Guys like Eric and Yuri play all-out regardless of the opponent. Ryan's got more of a veteran mentality even as a rookie. He picks his spots and chooses when to be aggressive and when to defer. The nice thing, though, is that he's totally comfortable with Norman's system already.

By the way, UP actually has a better record than NU. Wala lang.

[blue&green]

The game against cellar-dwelling UP was more important than this highly competitive game? He scored 17 in that game.

The game against DLSU is more important and he scored 8

The game against UE is more important and he scored 10

The game against AdU is relatively more important and he scored 8

[last.dodo.bird]

wow people are overanalyzing.

maybe he just had an off-day...

:rolleyes:

[blue&green]

Yes, thank you! Lots of college basketball insiders know the dirt of your basketball program, so please quit the spins. Nagmumukha lang kayong t@nga.

Like what you said:

Evil is accusing someone of something, that he himself is guilty of. :D

[twelve_12]

The game against DLSU is more important and he scored 8

The game against UE is more important and he scored 10

The game against AdU is relatively more important and he scored 8

How do you determine the importance of a game? By the win-loss record of the team you are up against? Or the competitiveness of the game itself?