Raw Denim 101

[camisaroja]

I have been wating to get my hands on a pair. I was wondering if the sizes are different?


Anyone who knows anything about them care to post any information to us Denim noobs.

Cheers!

[camisaroja]

I was meaning to get a pair of S0120XJ from Samurai.

But I don't know the first thing about them.

[D-Grey]

Gusto ko nga ding magkaroon ng "A.P.C. New Standard" kaso nga lang broke ako ngayon.

Dapat yata mag start ka sa mas murang alternative bago ka mag splurge sa Samurai jeans na above 400$ yta ang presyo. Alam kung Raw denim din ang Levis 501 STF starting at 3k at nakakita ako ng Raw denim din sa Topman at around 2k. Punta ka sa "Superfuture" at Style Forum mas marami silang alam tungkol dito dahil mga denim addicts ang mga nandun.

[camisaroja]

^

thanks. Nasa future narin ako.

pinag iisipan ko kung A.P.C. New Standards or

ito:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=120262902198

halos same price lang sila....

[D-Grey]

Ok din yan pero inspect mo ng maigi yan kung authentic o hindi pag binili sa ebay. I check mo nalang din ang sizing sa superfuture. I think that those two jeans both originate from an earlier version of the Levis 501.

[highwind]

what's a "raw denim" ano difference neto sa regular na maong?

[camisaroja]

Thanks D-Grey.

BTW sa tingin mo magkaka honycombs din yang Sugarcanes or yung A.P.C lang ang nagkaka ganun?

[D-Grey]

Sa tingin ko magkaka honey combs din sila parehas dahil parehas silang high quality cotton at depende sa iyo kung paano mo gamitin dahil may proseso yata kung paano ma develop iyon (nilalagyan yata ng starch?)

"raw denim" is denim that is not treated or washed. Ibig sabihin wala siyang mga fades at isang kulay lang siya kaya ikaw na ang maglalagay ng mga fades through regular use. Nag coconform din yata siya sa katawan mo kaya mas gumaganda ang fit at parang magiging one of a kind siya.

[camisaroja]

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Thanks. I reckon Imma get myself a pair of sleveged jeans this wek. Cympre it include some starching sprays. :p

[D-Grey]

Gusto ko nga din mag try ng Selvedge jeans. Meron sa topman sale around 2k nalang.

[lakers rule]

try Dior Homme

[highwind]

baket bawal daw hugasin ang mga raw denims?

[supercrapper]

all raw jeans tend to develop honeycombs and the atari .. or whiskers on the front thigh part .... its advisable not to wash the raw jeans for the first few months .. especially if u live in a cooler climate you can prolly go for 8-12 mos without washing just air the jeans out so it doesnt smell

a new pair of raw jeans ... not mine borrowed from another forum
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l124/deejaymsg/P1050081-1.jpg

first soak..
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l124/deejaymsg/P1050090-1.jpg

six months use .. 2 or 3 washes ...
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa220/carltoneliot/IMG_4341.jpg

[supercrapper]

for those going to hk or japan .. look up uniqlo they have cheap raw selvage denim ... a good starter set

[camisaroja]

DH.

Im either getting an Eternal or Sugar cane okinawas im having just a bit of a "lost in translation" moment with them jap buggers.

Good luck to me.

[supercrapper]

use google translate .. the translation aint spot on but i find that it helps ... theres a thread on the future about buying off japanese websites

[camisaroja]

use google translate .. the translation aint spot on but i find that it helps ... theres a thread on the future about buying off japanese websites

yeah did that both.


If all else fails. Imma call in some favors.

[supercrapper]

theres always take5 in hk ... ask edmond hes cool with em .. pays to be rich

[giancinephile]

Does anyone know if Japanese label Edwin does raw denim??

http://giancinephile.noosblog.fr/mon_weblog/images/2008/03/07/scan0017.jpg
www.giancinephile.noosblog.fr

[camisaroja]

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They do and they are f*cking expensive. Pierre Hardy expensive or something arround that.

[camisaroja]

theres always take5 in hk ... ask edmond hes cool with em .. pays to be rich

yeah. But that would be too much.


I was thinking calling a chick I knew who reads and writes jap.

[giancinephile]

^

They do and they are f*cking expensive. Pierre Hardy expensive or something arround that.

haha

hey Brad Pitt endorsed Edwin for some time (so, I've heard haha).

Even Madonna, I think... I'm just not so sure.

There's a nice raw denim by Kitsune too. haha
I'll try posting pics. haha

http://giancinephile.noosblog.fr/mon_weblog/images/2008/03/07/scan0017.jpg
www.giancinephile.noosblog.fr

[camisaroja]

I saw some awsome fades on another forum. I knew that I wanted some....

[supercrapper]

thais make fake levis 501s .. selvage even ... then let construction workers wear them to work .. thus making nice fades .. then they get the jeans back and sell it to japanese tourists for twice the amount...

[camisaroja]

^

lol. Sneaky buggers.


DH I was havin a bit of a hard time looking for my size on those Okinawas, I got myself some eternals instead.

[supercrapper]

eternals are good starter jeans ... i got my brother one the fades are nice and quick to happen ... next yll be wanting one of em redmoons or redmoon like clones for a wallet to accentuate the pocket fade eh?

[camisaroja]

Redmoons?

I don't know about them wallets. Im happy with my Marc Jacobs wallet. Or am I? hahahaha

[supercrapper]

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/mhpetersen/div/rm_hr-01a_10mo.jpg

[camisaroja]

Not bad. I saw the redmoon site. They are pretty expensive!


I don't get it what good will the chunky wallet do?


and another noob question DH.

One I get the jeans, do I have to wash it or just wear them at once?

[supercrapper]

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/6087/sccollage0rt.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j167/denimdestroyedmylife/ralfback.jpg
http://letgoasyoulike.fc2web.com/14m2.jpg
wallet fadez pronz

yeah soak em first if theyre raw and really stiff .. you can even wear em and soak em so the shrinkage shapes accdg to yr body... then dry em .. not in the sun tho as the sun can fade the jeans then yr good to go

[camisaroja]

Cool pics DH.

Are the Nudies yours? Awsome leg creases.

I have a "fat wallet" so I wouldn't be needing a new one. lol


BTW for the left pocket, is an I-pod fade considered good? I usually have my ipod on my ear when I rive or walk.... but I have a case whick I can like strap on my belt....

[supercrapper]

nope not that noodies

do whatever you want man ... its yr jeans... experiment with it as you want to

[camisaroja]

^

lol. I dunno man I hought there was like denim etiquette or somethin.

hahaha.

I best lay off the meds.

[banannarama]

Interesting!! When you guys say expensive, around how much do they go for?

[camisaroja]

I got like mine for $200 and it's just half selvedge at that. **** I shold have looked a the details better. Too bad I already payed for them.

So yeah I reckon $200 can get you a good "starter pair".

[banannarama]

I had no idea so Pinoy Men had such good taste. :redsmile:

*wonders why her boyfriend isn't like this. HAHA

[camisaroja]

Get him some GQ mags and lock him up in a room without any other means of entertainment. Worked for me. I also had a lot of help from like the OG DH and Mild... You pick up a few things allong the way. :p

[camisaroja]

DH,

A mate of mine heard about my recent endevour of getting a pair of jeans shipped from japan and the mofo said I was looney. I showed him some pics of them good fading and honeycombs.....

Dude's gonna get a pair of Uniqlos next week.

lol

[supercrapper]

you shld see roja b4 ... all decked in sean john and fubu and errfohrs wans

[camisaroja]

you shld see roja b4 ... all decked in sean john and fubu and errfohrs wans


LOL.


HEY! I didn't wear my FUBU shirt outside the house man! I still had my dignity. xD

I did rock the Rocawear tho. :p


AND FOR THE NTH TIME I like AF1sssssss! lol

The soles are the best part. Chunky.

[supercrapper]

wutever n!gga

[camisaroja]

wutever n!gga

ROLFMAO!


If it helps I threw them already becuase they like cracked and ****.


Im thinking of replacing them with those puma ones that kinda look like mid top common projects with like a strap and stuff. Something for my jeans to bleed in. lol.

[supercrapper]

now u officially supergay in a no homo kind of way

[camisaroja]

Thanks?

And I can cop those pumas for like less than PHP2.5k you boy's gonna get hooked up. lol


F*uck I even started starching my canvas sneakers!

[camisaroja]

Yo DH!


I saw supreme will be selling some raw selvedge denim.

Where can I cop?

[supercrapper]

aint worth it broham .. better off getting levi's big E's

[camisaroja]

aint worth it broham .. better off getting levi's big E's

For reals?

Then Imma just get Eternal 801s instead. Saw a NWT pair at the supermarket for like $200 shipped.

Damn.

[supercrapper]

robokop dem jawns

[camisaroja]

robokop dem jawns

Im seriously thinking about it.



It's like:


Oil change + tune up for my super bike or those 801s......


Crapp!

[supercrapper]

imagine the fadez on them jawnz from riding yer big bike

[camisaroja]

imagine the fadez on them jawnz from riding yer big bike

Yeah. The crotch region is gonna get very good fades.

I might not get honycombs tho...


DH how often do you usually wash your jeans?

I plan to wear the eternals everyday for like 6 months no washing.

[supercrapper]

soak... wear for 8 mos .... then first wash (handwash) then every 2 mos after that.... if i break in a pair summer time... i wait a year .. just bec fall and winter is not really good for first washes

[camisaroja]

cool.


The guy Im buying my pants from, Macha (zipangu trasures dude) suggested one I get them, turn them inside out throw them in the washer with no soap. Hang to dry.



My next pair after my Eternals maybe would be some A.P.C NS or Samurai S0120xjs



What do you plan on geting?

[supercrapper]

none right now i still have a lot of pairs i need to break in .. unless some really fresh and new pair comes out im good for the next ten years... lol

[camisaroja]

^

lol.

Do you starch your jeans as well? I went to the grocer the other day and got some Niagra. hahaha.

[supercrapper]

nah ... never did the starch thing ... the soak is to get rid of the extra starch .....

[necr0]

I had no idea so Pinoy Men had such good taste. :redsmile:

*wonders why her boyfriend isn't like this. HAHA

Have him check out www.superfuture.com

[necr0]

Cool pics DH.

Are the Nudies yours? Awsome leg creases.

I have a "fat wallet" so I wouldn't be needing a new one. lol


BTW for the left pocket, is an I-pod fade considered good? I usually have my ipod on my ear when I rive or walk.... but I have a case whick I can like strap on my belt....

knuckles!!!!! They're illegal in some states though... lol.

[camisaroja]

^

It's illegal to drive a superbike while listening to an i-pod?




DH,

Starching helps the whole process correct? I read in sufu that it'll help the creases and stuff.....

[supercrapper]

some say it can .. im of the school where starching doesnt matter but the use of the pants .. u can starch yr pants and sit around all day.. fades are gonna be as weak as a 95 yr old dude's erection...most impt part about denim fading is how the fades came to be ... did it come bec u spent 5 grand in one year on strippers and lapdances? or did it happen from u digging a ditch in china to help quake victims .... nah mean?

[supercrapper]

Have him check out www.superfuture.com

he might turn supergay ... lol

[camisaroja]

some say it can .. im of the school where starching doesnt matter but the use of the pants .. u can starch yr pants and sit around all day.. fades are gonna be as weak as a 95 yr old dude's erection...most impt part about denim fading is how the fades came to be ... did it come bec u spent 5 grand in one year on strippers and lapdances? or did it happen from u digging a ditch in china to help quake victims .... nah mean?

roger that.


Is this bad? I started letting go of some of my normal jeans. (DKNY, Micheal Kors, Levis ) gave it to some mates and my dad.

I dunno what got into me but I realized that ones my Eternals get here I won't be needing those regualr jeans that much anymore. I just like got 3 regular ones left, and yes one of those jeans are them Kirkland mofos sombody got me from either target or costco. They saved me legs more than once. When ever I fall of my scooter or superbike I don't end up ****ing my legs, I end up with some out of place fading.

[camisaroja]

he might turn supergay ... lol

You should know you're the most supergay person here. (no homo)

[supercrapper]

no homo indeed

[camisaroja]

Supergay! (no homo)

[highwind]

raw denim ren ba *** selvage? i just bought one from the topman sale

[camisaroja]

raw denim ren ba *** selvage? i just bought one from the topman sale

raw means no wash.

selvage jeans can be raw, one wash and hard washed.


Where did you get your jeans? I went to topman MOA but I wasn't able to find one.

[highwind]

i got mine from topman rp, around 2400 for one twister and one selvage.

btw any idea what type the topman one is? and is it ok to wash selvage jeans?

[camisaroja]

^

care to post pics on the selvage one? specially the inside of the hem?


I really can't tell since I haven't seen it yet. To be honest it's up to you but usually they wash the jeans before wearing it. And then wear it from 6-8 months. No washing.

[supercrapper]

are yr jeans hard and stiff? real dark and shiny? chances are it may be raw or one wash.... you have to wash it eventually

[camisaroja]

DH have you ever availed one of them japan proxy services from sufu?


Is Masatako or Macha a reputable dude?

[highwind]

^

care to post pics on the selvage one? specially the inside of the hem?


I really can't tell since I haven't seen it yet. To be honest it's up to you but usually they wash the jeans before wearing it. And then wear it from 6-8 months. No washing.

here are the pix

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k214/michael168/DSC00257.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k214/michael168/DSC00258-1.jpg

[camisaroja]

nice bro.

Looks raw to me. Give it a nice soak. How does it fit you? Pretty snug or loose?

If too loose, do a cold soak

If too snug do a hot soak

[supercrapper]

my guess is its one wash .. a soak wouldnt help u there as the starch is already washed out.. its good to wear right off the bat

red, proxies are safe bets ... its their business they stand to lose more by scamming people ...if they are established theyre most likely decent

[camisaroja]

^

Cheers DH.

Those topman pants kinda look ayt. Wadduya think?

[supercrapper]

the pics are aight i dunno bout the quality

[camisaroja]

Hmmm...

I believe gap made some selvedge jeans too right?

[supercrapper]

everybody and their babymommas are making selvedge nowadays

[camisaroja]

lol.

DH you should post some pics of your project jeans here.

[highwind]

the pants are a bit tight, I'm gonna try wearing em for a couple weeks first before washing/soaking(is there a difference between these two?) them. ill try to post here if they fade/change size.

[supercrapper]

soak .. no soap involved.... wash is ... well .. wash


no moneyz to buy a camera .. always end up spending on something else

[camisaroja]

^

lol. Most likely your mobile has a cam mate.

highwind,

yeah keep us posted.

[bubuyog]

Hi camisaroja! :wave:

Did you go to Topman MOA wearing a messenger bag? I saw someone and was guessin it might be you. ;)

[brianpex]

Hi,
I have 3 pairs of raw BLACK jeans. 2 overdyed Topman and one Ben Sherman (they're still on sale at Shang, I think -- items 30%-50% off!). The topmans are selvedge, Ben Sherman is not although I DID see a selvedge pair at the Shangri-La branch, just none in my size.

Some comments on my jeans:
- I've worn one of the Topman jeans for almost 4 months straight, no washing, and there is no fading visible. This suits me fine.
- My Topman has nice heavy denim and some nice details -- liner on the pockets and belt oops, nice sturdy buttons. Unfortunately the quality control is not so good -- there are crooked stiches.
- The Ben Sherman has nice details as well (a sweet Union Flag rivet!), but the denim does not seem as solid as the Topman's. Quality Control is better than Topman.
- Neither the Topman or Ben Shermans have any back pocket stitching, which for me is good. I don't like back pocket stitching much.

If you're at Shangri-La, there is a store there (Homme et Femme) that has APC (sometimes) and Acne. Good luck finding a size, though. They're not aware of the size-down-two rule for APC (smallest is 29"), and the smallest Acne they had was a 34 waist.

While at Shangri-La, drop by the Polo by Ralph Lauren boutique to check out the jeans. The "Vintage 68" is selvedge. They were on sale 2 weeks ago.

In Greenbelt 3 there is a shop that sells "premier" jeans. They carry Ernest Sewn (look for the Fulton model), but unfortunately no raw versions. None of their other brands are worth looking at.

[camisaroja]

Hi,
I have 3 pairs of raw BLACK jeans. 2 overdyed Topman and one Ben Sherman (they're still on sale at Shang, I think -- items 30%-50% off!). The topmans are selvedge, Ben Sherman is not although I DID see a selvedge pair at the Shangri-La branch, just none in my size.

Some comments on my jeans:
- I've worn one of the Topman jeans for almost 4 months straight, no washing, and there is no fading visible. This suits me fine.
- My Topman has nice heavy denim and some nice details -- liner on the pockets and belt oops, nice sturdy buttons. Unfortunately the quality control is not so good -- there are crooked stiches.
- The Ben Sherman has nice details as well (a sweet Union Flag rivet!), but the denim does not seem as solid as the Topman's. Quality Control is better than Topman.
- Neither the Topman or Ben Shermans have any back pocket stitching, which for me is good. I don't like back pocket stitching much.

If you're at Shangri-La, there is a store there (Homme et Femme) that has APC (sometimes) and Acne. Good luck finding a size, though. They're not aware of the size-down-two rule for APC (smallest is 29"), and the smallest Acne they had was a 34 waist.

While at Shangri-La, drop by the Polo by Ralph Lauren boutique to check out the jeans. The "Vintage 68" is selvedge. They were on sale 2 weeks ago.

In Greenbelt 3 there is a shop that sells "premier" jeans. They carry Ernest Sewn (look for the Fulton model), but unfortunately no raw versions. None of their other brands are worth looking at.

Nice writeup mate. Now that settles the Topman queery.....

Lucky for me, Im a true waist 34. :D


A.P.C 32-33s would be awsome. lol




Hi camisaroja! :wave:

Did you go to Topman MOA wearing a messenger bag? I saw someone and was guessin it might be you. ;)

No I left my bag in my bike.

[supercrapper]

black denim are harder to fade than noraml blue ones.... i have a pair of bk's thathave still yet to show any fades .. and ive had it for a year now

as for polo the rrl brand is the only one i know that makes good denim ... polo jeans have been phased out ...

[camisaroja]

^

So you're saying it's still premature to write off the topman jeans? One of my friends is wating for me to get my eternals before buying a pair of selvedge for himself.

[brianpex]

^

So you're saying it's still premature to write off the topman jeans? One of my friends is wating for me to get my eternals before buying a pair of selvedge for himself.

IMO the raw Topman jeans are fine, even the non-selvedge ones. Just check the quality of each jean before going to the checkout counter. They're cheap enough to experiment with, and the cuts are generally good. You may even want to experiment with their "coated" jeans. (GAP put out a coated jean couple seasons ago which got good fades).

Another "problem" with Topman jeans is they don't come in odd sizes. So it's size 28, 30, 32, etc. If you're in between sizes (like me) you either size down one or up one. I did both, hence my two pairs. :)

[camisaroja]

^

Thanks but I won't be needing a pair of jeans anytime soon. :p


Lucky Im a size 33-34 then. :p

[brianpex]

While at Shangri-La, drop by the Polo by Ralph Lauren boutique to check out the jeans. The "Vintage 68" is selvedge. They were on sale 2 weeks ago.


Correction, it's the Vintage 67. Rustans Glorietta 4 has them in raw.

[camisaroja]

Aparently, the Eternals have arrived Philiipine shores, will try to get them tomorrow.

:D

[supercrapper]

excited much?

[camisaroja]

excited much?

You don't say.

Never got sh!t shipped from the land of the rising sun.

[brianpex]

Did you order direct or through a proxy? If a proxy, who?

[supercrapper]

i think he went thru zipangu treasures from sufu

[camisaroja]

^

Yeah I did. Masatako is a cool dude who can speak excelent English. Just do a search of what you want to buy in rakuten or uniqlo he can hook you up for a nominal proxy fee.

[brianpex]

Thanks for the info.

[supercrapper]

its cheaper to go straight to the manufacturer .. toshiko of samurai jeans was a big help .. i ordered 3 pairs from her .. one was on back order so she refunded me the money until the jeans was ready to be shipped .... i thought i was in "rabu"

[camisaroja]

^

I tried to email samurai before. Never got a response. Were they able to declare the items at a lower value?


Got my jeans today. They're thighter than my usual jeans but I like them. I wore them straight from the pack.

Good thing it still has a red tab.

[camisaroja]

3rd day of my jeans today.

DH,

Is it better to size down or stay true to size specially on jap jeans? Because the ones I bought should be just right but when it arrived, they were kinda loose.

[supercrapper]

thats bec u havent soaked it yet .....

[camisaroja]

thats bec u havent soaked it yet .....

I see. Which would get more shrinkage hot or cold?

Soak for how long?

[supercrapper]

the hotter the soak the more th shrinkage ... 30 mins shld be good .... when you meet up with em kids from the future ask em ... learn tips ....

[camisaroja]

^

Yeah but most of them get too drunk too quick to get a proper conversation going.

lol


cheers DH. Will soak them now and drier them to shrink the crapp out of them.

[camisaroja]

Soak done. The water was sooo black, i think I lost a lot of dye.


Them jeans are now in the dryer (high temp/90 minutes)

wish me luck.

[camisaroja]

Jeans shrunk a bit. the Eternal patch became ""krispy", a lot of black dye lost but the jeans look allright. Will post fit pics soon.

[PinoyGoddess]

I like denim, but usually I like wearing nothing at all.

[necr0]

How did it turn out?
I'm thinking I should wash my Nudies this weekend or the next. I have a pair of RRs I purchased back in October 2005 & I haven't washed it yet.

[necr0]

I like denim, but usually I like wearing nothing at all.

I like turtles.

[camisaroja]

How did it turn out?
I'm thinking I should wash my Nudies this weekend or the next. I have a pair of RRs I purchased back in October 2005 & I haven't washed it yet.

I didn't wash them. I gave them a hot soak. Fit improved IMHO lost a good amount of dye and the Eternal leather patch shrunk and got "krispy"

[brianpex]

I have a pair of RRs I purchased back in October 2005 & I haven't washed it yet.

post a pic?

i thought the ralphs were a relatively new model...

[bubuyog]

I didn't wash them. I gave them a hot soak. Fit improved IMHO lost a good amount of dye and the Eternal leather patch shrunk and got "krispy"

Hi camisaroja :wave:

Did you soak them while you're in them?

TIA :)

[camisaroja]

^

No. The water was really boiling hot so I took off the jeans first. Third degree burns, so not cool.

[necr0]

post a pic?

i thought the ralphs were a relatively new model...

I thought I had pics here (http://pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81553&page=6) but they're gone. I'll try get some pics posted next week.

[camisaroja]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h35/stuntastic13/SNC11389.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h35/stuntastic13/SNC11391.jpg


Eternal 848

[brianpex]

Aha, you're redshirt on sufu!

[camisaroja]

^

lol. Just read my avatar here and It's basically the same thing.


who you be in there?

[brianpex]

my username is bbaquiran. i don't think i've ever posted, but i've been lurking on superdenim for the past year or so.

[highwind]

those pants look hot! are thos soaked already? plus nice shoes, was not aware vans could look that good

[camisaroja]

^

thanks. hot soaked once. Them Vans be Marc Jacobs x Vans collabos.

[highwind]

where did you score the shoes? are they available locally or did you get them online?

[camisaroja]

where did you score the shoes? are they available locally or did you get them online?

online

10 chars

[highwind]

ah shoot guess have to wait till my next trip to hk b4 i could score some

[camisaroja]

^

I doubt that they'd still have them one sale. They were made for a limited time only.

[brianpex]

Can't see the color very well but it looks like a good fit.

[camisaroja]

^

Thanks. But I think they're a bit loose even after the soak.

[supercrapper]

red .. decent fit.. but the colors look off my guess its the camera .. so how was the supergay meetup?

[camisaroja]

^

Thanks broham. The lighting in the place was too bright + fash. So maybe that explains it.


Supergay meetup part 2 was me & stunt from 6pm-2am

macked on some birds, got drunk like I've never been before. For more insight go check the thread in the future.



BTW I asked a mate to get me some Uniqlos.... Sized down like 2. I hope it goes well.

[supercrapper]

my experience with uniqlo is true to size ....

[camisaroja]

my experience with uniqlo is true to size ....

oh. The eternals were like 2 sizes big.

They will strech out eventually right? (uniqlo)

By how much?

[supercrapper]

stretch out an inch....

[camisaroja]

I guess I can get a 33 instead


I hope it's not too late.

[bubuyog]

my username is bbaquiran. i don't think i've ever posted, but i've been lurking on superdenim for the past year or so.

Hi brianpex! :wave:

Do I get it right, your surname is Baquiran?

I know a Baquiran named Rahmir, but we used to call him Backy.

Sorry for the OT. :D

[supercrapper]

red if theyre still loose .. do a really hot soak... steaming hot water ..... i did that to one of my pairs that was bigger than what i thought

[brianpex]

And size down next time. Is this the same cut as the 811?

[camisaroja]

red if theyre still loose .. do a really hot soak... steaming hot water ..... i did that to one of my pairs that was bigger than what i thought

Broham, I did that to the Eternals. The patch got chunky and shrunk like hell.

I used boiling water and soaked for like half an hour. The jeans did shrink but not too much.

[supercrapper]

hmm if you have a dryer .. you could dry it .... but thats a lesson learned i guess... the journey of raw denim has begun for you ...

[camisaroja]

I did dryer them at high temp after the hot soak.


So my first pair = epic fail?

[supercrapper]

not an epic fail .. not even a failure on any level .. considering u rushed head on to raw denim you did a good job .. the jeans fit ok .. eternals are very good ( have one myself ).. like i said its all about wearing it and the experience.. enjoy yrself dont overthink this denim thing too much and for the love of god dont put any brass knuckles in yr backpocket for fading purposes

[camisaroja]

^

LMAO!

I do put my Palm for "palm fadez"

BTW DH. I saw this pair of sweet Original Fake x Levis jeans.

I can't seem to find anywhere to cop. I wanna cop even just an Original Fake tee.

[supercrapper]

go to japan and buy from the original fake store ...... or ask machuda for a quote.. gonna be expensive tho

[camisaroja]

go to japan and buy from the original fake store ...... or ask machuda for a quote.. gonna be expensive tho

machuda?

I can't even find orignal fake items that are not sold out in rakuten.


Original Fake makes sperm oh so cool.

lol

[supercrapper]

thats kaws for you

[gentle_touchee]

bakit di nyo nalang kulayan yang mga jeans nyo, i forgot what it is called, its like food color i guess, ,,, instead of not washing it, ewww..

[camisaroja]

DH,

Im trying to score some selvedge denim fabric so that Defacto can make me some custom made one which I can design.

Viktor's so expensive with a base price of PHP8500 for a pair of selvedge jeans....

[brianpex]

I'm not sure Viktor has selvedge.

[camisaroja]

^

Gave them a call last night and they do have 17oz if I remember correctly but the strating price is PHP8500 close to a pair of jap jeans.

[mike168]

here are the pix

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k214/michael168/DSC00257.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k214/michael168/DSC00258-1.jpg

i have the same pair, no change though after the first soak

[camisaroja]

^

Hot or cold soak?

[mike168]

soak from tap water. the temp is moderate

[camisaroja]

^

No wonder. Try boiling water. My jeans shrunk a lot after a 30min hot soak.

And if you have a tumble dryer, dryer it after.

[gentle_touchee]

eww talaga...fashion victim pathetic...not washing clothes with soap,boiling lang..just to look good..eww..ewww esp. on that guy who didn't wash his for A YEAR..

[supercrapper]

uhm ok .... ewwe it is then

[camisaroja]

We have a hater in our midst.


If you don't have anything to contribue in my thread gtfo.


We don't need you here.

[camisaroja]

BTW DH,

My gramy is going to he US and she said she'd buy me a pair of jeans.


Im torn between A.P.C New Cures or Nom De Guerres......

[brianpex]

I have a pair of APC NS on the way. Ordered 2 days ago from Denimbar.

[camisaroja]

^

Did you take advantage of the promo code?

Mauro gave me one.

[brianpex]

To be safe I emailed/paypal'd Mauro directly (denimbar's web checkout is often broken). Got the SF discount, of course.

[camisaroja]

^

Cool.

So do you mean the site isn't working that well?

I mean I want to buy a sz31 A.P.C but the site said they were out of stock...


Compared to Contextclothing DB is cheper because of the discount.

[brianpex]

Email/PM Mauro on SF. They got new stock in last Tuesday. I made sure they had my size in the current shipment from APC and waited...

Mauro announces new stock arrivals on SF before they get to enter it on the website. You have to paypal him (or do a phone order to the store, with your credit card) and tell him what you're ordering. If you paypal him and what you want isn't in stock, he'll give you a full refund, so it's cool. What doesn't get snapped up immediately, they enter in the website inventory.

The website checkout has been having problems, but they're working on it. In the meantime, it's much safer to email, PM, or call the store to check for availability.

BTW they should be having another shipment in a few weeks, probably in July.

[camisaroja]

^

Thanks broham. But I believe Mauro got banned in super. Or you're talking about styleforum?


BTW fit pics from you?

[brianpex]

Yes, I meant styleforum.

I have some fit pics on the "Describe your outfit today" thread, but from a crappy camphone. They're so bad as to be pretty much useless.

My camera is on the fritz.

[camisaroja]

oh.

post some pics here. You have a Nudie right?

Im getting my uniqlos tomorrow.

I hope they're a good fit if not I'll have to wait like a month so it can get replaced. :(



Mauro got banned from the future I dunno why.

[brianpex]

I don't have nudies (can't stand the pocket stitching). Current jeans are a couple of Topmans, Ben Sherman and a whole stack of 501s I've worn out.

I also had selvedge Levi's loooong ago (highschool, late 80's). But I didn't know anything about denim then.

[camisaroja]

^
Oh. I thought you had nudies. Yeah I don't like the pocket stiching and the big N on the patch.

[mike168]

^

No wonder. Try boiling water. My jeans shrunk a lot after a 30min hot soak.

And if you have a tumble dryer, dryer it after.

the pants are a little fit already so i dont think i want it to shrink any furthur :D what i want sana are the fades :D

[camisaroja]

the pants are a little fit already so i dont think i want it to shrink any furthur :D what i want sana are the fades :D

Try joggin in your jeans for like an hour everyday ewan ko nalang kng hindi mag fade yan.


The more wear you pit in them jeans the more fades.

[mike168]

hehe sige post ako pix if nag fade na

[camisaroja]

yeah. Post ka rin ng pics on how the pants look when you have it on.

[brianpex]

Just wear them normally.

[camisaroja]

Washed both the Uniqlo and Eternals today with Sugar Cane soap + denim treatment.

I hope they dry up before I leave the house.

[supercrapper]

apc's are available in barneys .....

red look for akademi and cheap mondays....

[supercrapper]

go to work digging ditches .. or any manual labor ish ... 3 months .. sure fadez


i ride my bmx with denim... surefire honeycombs...

[camisaroja]

apc's are available in barneys .....

red look for akademi and cheap mondays....

thanks broham.




I like the Uniqlo jeans eventho it's very light. Tightness at the right places is definately a big +.

[camisaroja]

Cheap Mondays dosen't have selvedge jeans correct?

[supercrapper]

yeah they do

[camisaroja]

^

You're right yeah. But I can find any good ones....

Akademi? Can't find that brand too.

[banoi]

nice! there's a raw denim thread as well over here. jsn from sufu here, you should ask edmond to talk about raw denim here. Denim-wise, I think very few is at par with his knowledge in Manila. (even though, he only got on it maybe less than 1 or 2 years back, he's a pretty dedicated guy.)

Back to the topic, my current rotation is kinda on both end of the spectrum:

FH3001 (without backpocket stitching/post Levi's lawsuit), pretty slim.
Visvim Fluxus 05 (something like a 505 cut), cut is pretty loose/full.

my other pair: APC New Standards that don't fit anymore. Anybody want to buy it? It's a sz 26 and has some decent fades goin' on, but still has lots of life on it. Worn for a year but on and off, actual days of wear maybe 6-7 months tops.

[camisaroja]

^

wassup broham?

I wore the Uniqlos (Premium Dark Denim straight 33x34) the first time today. (all day) I must say the denim is on the light side compared to the Eternsals but the fit is awsome. The jeans hug the *** very well (no homo) and the croth area is not that nut hugging. Some nice stacking as well.


It's nice to be back in the crib and sit arround wearing the Eternal jeans.

[camisaroja]

Who here sleeps wearing their denimz?

I do.

[supercrapper]

... thats some newb level steez

[necr0]

eww talaga...fashion victim pathetic...not washing clothes with soap,boiling lang..just to look good..eww..ewww esp. on that guy who didn't wash his for A YEAR..

2 years...


why do you think you matter?

[supercrapper]

id say john11f is more knowledgable than edmond .... but i havent seen that dude post ina long time...

current rotation sammy 21oz
'qlos selvedge
sda 103
takumis

[banoi]

^oh yeah! I totally forgot about john11f, he was into denim early on. One of the 1st pinoy(from the philippines) posters over in Sufu I think. Nice rotation, which Sammy model?

When I got the Fluxus05, I was contemplating between Sam 510 or the Flux, but I just went with the flux since I was fiending for it for quite a while.

C: I slept in my APCs the 1st time I got them as well, I think it's a must if they're ultra tight.

[supercrapper]

s510xx..... my bad its sposed to be 19oz
the 21oz 5000vx is still in its box in the closet... maybe by 2011

[brianpex]

Denimbar has a Father's Day sale. 30% off if you use coupon code DADISGREAT.

[camisaroja]

^

Nice.

How many cupons can you use at the same time? lol

I have one for 10% and the one you gave was 30%....


40% off? :p


I sleep wearing my Eternals, tomorrow Imma jog wearing them.



Can anyone recomend me some jeans that would cost Less that $200 aside from A.P.Cs.... No Nudie jeans please.


Somebody's gonna give me free jawns.....

[supercrapper]

once and for all ... last time imma answer you .. CHEAP MONDAYS!!!!!!!

http://www.matthewizzo.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=19_38&products_id=1444


ACNE (http://www.matthewizzo.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=19_38&products_id=2039)

[camisaroja]

^

Sorry buddy if Im being makulit...

Thanks.

[brianpex]

Lots of brands can be had for under $200. The aforementioned Cheap Mondays, Julian Reds, some Chimala, even some KMWs. Rag & Bone are around $200.

[camisaroja]

The Cheap Mondays are cheap indeed!

I can only get a pair, I think I should look for more expensive ones. :p


Saw a selvedge jean from marc jacobs. :p

[banoi]

I think you can even get Skulls for below $200.

[brianpex]

They seem to go for around $240-$250?

April77 can be had for under $200 as well (around $180 last I checked).

[necr0]

Denimbar has a Father's Day sale. 30% off if you use coupon code DADISGREAT.

Must resist....

[supercrapper]

get levi's 501 1947 from grandism ..... no effing with the original

[D-Grey]

Magkano ba ang Cheap Mondays dito sa Pinas?

[supercrapper]

just bec theyre selvedge doesnt automatically mean theyre good denim.....

[brianpex]

Magkano ba ang Cheap Mondays dito sa Pinas?

I think only the CM womens jeans are available here (Madison).

[camisaroja]

CM are less than 3k PHP a piece. (Adora)

[banoi]

They seem to go for around $240-$250?

April77 can be had for under $200 as well (around $180 last I checked).

If I remember correctly if you order Skulls from Fabfour directly, you can prolly get it at around $180-$190 shipped. Not sure if that changed, oh and I'm talking about the 5010xx model.

[supercrapper]

imperials are nice too ....my brother got one of em ande whalls grifters .. version2 i think .. theyre nice too .. but not selvedge tho

[camisaroja]

any views on PRPS?

[supercrapper]

its ok ....but not high up on my list of denim .. something bout the way it fits

[camisaroja]

The denimbar discount is too sweet to resist...

[supercrapper]

that levis 1891-1901 spur bites looks very interesting.... kinda like cottonduck's jeans with the patches ...

red check this out .. cheap japanese denim
Naked and Famous (http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=4135&category_id=&manufacturer_id=43&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28)

[necr0]

The denimbar discount is too sweet to resist...

i know... too bad I just purchased another pair of APCs yesterday.

[brianpex]

The denimbar discount is too sweet to resist...

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6871/fathersdaysalena4.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6871/fathersdaysalena4.0763280d5d.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=148&i=fathersdaysalena4.png)

Why resist?

:evil: :evil: :evil:

[supercrapper]

i just got me some black fbt elks .. now i see 'deka got some brown ones for sale .... eff me and my visvim fascination...

good society denim is good too

[camisaroja]

that levis 1891-1901 spur bites looks very interesting.... kinda like cottonduck's jeans with the patches ...

red check this out .. cheap japanese denim
Naked and Famous (http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=4135&category_id=&manufacturer_id=43&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28)

**** why are the waistband so big? I would have copped them already!

[camisaroja]

BROHAMS!

check this out?

y/n


http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=2090&category_id=&manufacturer_id=10&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

[supercrapper]

im not big on boot cuts....

but its a good deal tho

[camisaroja]

are the boot cuts like bellbottoms?

[supercrapper]

kinda flared .... yes

[banoi]

i just got me some black fbt elks .. now i see 'deka got some brown ones for sale .... eff me and my visvim fascination...


man, its a goood fascination, albiet painful to the wallet. I'm a fan myself, started with the Ballistic 20 pack *swoon*.

[banoi]

BROHAMS!

check this out?

y/n


http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=2090&category_id=&manufacturer_id=10&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

it's bootcut though. even if its a good deal, I say no. you might regret it later on

[camisaroja]

^

I think it would be ok since Im getting them for free. So far I haven't seen any really good raw selvedge denim with my size available at a price of under $200.... But Im seriously thinking about them... It's not often that I get free jawns...


Any other sites selling jap denim that's based in the US with an online shop?

[supercrapper]

like i said the naked and famous jawns .. 150ish selvage

no sense getting a cane just bec its cheap .. but you end up sacrificng on the fit ...

[supercrapper]

http://www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/images/catalogue/slimguy_bigslubindigo_01.jpg

http://www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/images/catalogue/slimguy_bigslubindigo_03.jpg

nice slubby fit and the indigo is very interesting looking



if the mid rise is turning you off ... then low rise tapered selvage
http://blueingreensoho.com/site/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/f264970a2a21096fa118603be91489e7.jpg (http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=4094&category_id=&manufacturer_id=43&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28)

[camisaroja]

like i said the naked and famous jawns .. 150ish selvage

no sense getting a cane just bec its cheap .. but you end up sacrificng on the fit ...

Too big broham. I don't need another pair of baggy jeans.

[supercrapper]

too big? whats yr waist size

[camisaroja]

http://www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/images/catalogue/slimguy_bigslubindigo_01.jpg

http://www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/images/catalogue/slimguy_bigslubindigo_03.jpg

nice slubby fit and the indigo is very interesting looking



if the mid rise is turning you off ... then low rise tapered selvage
http://blueingreensoho.com/site/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/f264970a2a21096fa118603be91489e7.jpg (http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=4094&category_id=&manufacturer_id=43&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28)

I like the one in the link better....

And in my size. I guess Imma cop those....

After my eternal and uniqlo project...


I should go all out and cop an awsome pair.

[supercrapper]

i like tapered jawns .. its makes for better bunching at the foot....

[camisaroja]

too big? whats yr waist size

I think a true size 32 or 33

The Uniqlo 33s are too loose arround the waist already.

[supercrapper]

fatty!!!!!

[camisaroja]

Im not really fat. Im like 6feet in height...

175lbs....

[camisaroja]

anyone tried re-dyeing their jeans?

[supercrapper]

whyyyyyyyyy?

[camisaroja]

^

I dunno. I remember stuntastick was talking about dyeing his jeans... I was quite unsure if it can be done....

[supercrapper]

if i get a pair of fresh brand new unwashed denim .. why would i mess up the dye? maybe he wanna dye an old pair .. i need details on this redye job

[camisaroja]

if i get a pair of fresh brand new unwashed denim .. why would i mess up the dye? maybe he wanna dye an old pair .. i need details on this redye job

I not sure, if I remember correctly he re-dyed his Diors...

Imma report in when I get to talk to him again.

[supercrapper]

so what did u end up getting?

[camisaroja]

I told them to get me some Naked and Famous. No reply from them yet. I'll follow up by calling later on.


The Uniqlos are starting to turn blueish...Specially at the knee's backpart.

[brianpex]

Hi,
So I won this ebay auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120269581820) and got this in the mail today:

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3093/5b7a3oz9.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5b7a3oz9.jpg)
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/3632/5f323ix3.th.jpg (http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5f323ix3.jpg)
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/1923/5d283us9.th.jpg (http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5d283us9.jpg)
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4484/61cf3uw3.th.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=61cf3uw3.jpg)
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3913/63d63nb8.th.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=63d63nb8.jpg)
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/795/65da3ca2.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=65da3ca2.jpg)
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9103/67773ji4.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=67773ji4.jpg)

My first pair of Levi's in a couple of years. What do you think?

I also got this 502 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120269584207) but I think I'll turn them into shorts...

Did I get a good deal? Anyway it comes out cheaper than getting plain ol' 501s from a mall here.

[brianpex]

Moar pics...
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/194/69bb3py9.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=69bb3py9.jpg)
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8070/6c993eg4.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6c993eg4.jpg)
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1976/6eb63aq5.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6eb63aq5.jpg)
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/153/70f03io2.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=70f03io2.jpg)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9492/72db3hk9.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=72db3hk9.jpg)

[supercrapper]

nice find brian

[camisaroja]

It's selvedge so I guess it's nice.


I noticed some fadez at the back part of the knees on them Uniqlo jeans.

:D

[supercrapper]

^^ lol ... thats a 501 xx big e ...valencia factory .. thats a very good find .. and thats way better than our uniqlos .. i wonder why the seller let it go for that price

[brianpex]

Could be because the 29 fits like a 27 or 28? I'm wearing it now, still damp, to stretch it out.

[supercrapper]

oh ok.....the size

[camisaroja]

double post

[camisaroja]

Those must be some old jawns I bet they have the old school craftsmanship that can last you ages.... (Levis big E)



Anyway here are some Uniqlo denim pics. Safe to say Im never buying these kind of jeans again unless they make one in 21oz. They are soo soft and thin...


http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/ab_donaire/IMG_2912.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/ab_donaire/IMG_2913.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/ab_donaire/IMG_2914.jpg


They also don't have hidden back pocket rivets.

[Sadik]

ooo saan may uni glo?

[camisaroja]

^

wala namang Uni glo eh...

[Sadik]

^

wala sa pinas?

[banoi]

^it's UniQlo man. Nope, no stores locally. Closest would have to be in Hong Kong.

Other options that you can use is buying using a proxy to buy off Uniqlo Japan's online store.
http://store.uniqlo.com/jp/

[emokid]

Those must be some old jawns I bet they have the old school craftsmanship that can last you ages....

jawns :bop:

[supercrapper]

jawns is copyrighted by me ..... lol

red is yr coin pocket selvedge too?

[brianpex]

Those must be some old jawns I bet they have the old school craftsmanship that can last you ages.... (Levis big E)


They're reproductions, not actual, vintage, pre-1971 big E. Not that old. Seem to be good repros, though.

[camisaroja]

^

Oh but they still look stiff which is good IMHO. So, what harder? Your A.P. Cs or those bige Es?(no homo)

DH,

Yes selvedge inside coin pocket. Jawns is copyrighted by all the peeps from Philly. :p


If anyone wants to order some uniqlo slvedge jeans its PHP4000 shipping included. But delivery time can take up to a month....

[brianpex]

APCs are harder. But the denim on the Levi's has a really interesting slubby texture. Quite different from the last couple of 501s I've owned. More like my childhood 80's Levi's.

Are you offering proxy services for Uniqlo?