View Full Version : San Beda vs Ateneo...fil oil...who will win?
bulon1122
Apr 12, 2008, 01:47 AM
MANILA, Philippines--Defending champion La Salle and runner-up San Beda take on separate foes at the start of the 2nd Filoil Flying V Pre-Season Invitational Cup Sunday at the PhilSports Arena in Pasig City.
After the 1 p.m. opening ceremony, the NCAA champion San Beda Red Lions debut against Collegiate Champions League titlist Ateneo Blue Eagles at 2 p.m.
The clash between UAAP titleholder Archers and the Jose Rizal University Heavy Bombers get going at 4 p.m.
A cheerdance contest and brass-band performance highlight the kickoff rites.
The rest of the games in the two-month long event will be held at The Arena in San Juan.
Other teams seeing action are UAAP runner-up University of the East, Santo Tomas, Adamson, Far Eastern, National U, Mapua, Letran, St. Benilde, Perpetual Help and San Sebastian.
The games will be aired over BTV on Destiny Cable Channel 34 and IBC 13.
Game tickets are available at the Araneta Coliseum TicketNet booths and at TicketNet outlets in all SM malls. For inquiries, call 9115555.
chellotte8
Apr 12, 2008, 01:59 AM
My prediction:
San Beda Red Lions
bulon1122
Apr 12, 2008, 02:16 AM
sana nga..pero ateneo is a tough team to beat ...excited na ako panoorin yung game dahil makikita na natin ang performance ng mga rookies of both teams...salva and buenafe for ateneo (NCAA JRS) and pascual and udo for san beda...GO SAN BEDA FIGHT!!!
chellotte8
Apr 12, 2008, 02:32 AM
Ano kaya ang feeling ni Salva, makakalaban nya ang Red Lions?!
Gospel of Judas
Apr 12, 2008, 02:54 AM
ateneo.
it's easier to let ekwe do the work and shut down the rest ala-detroit vs la lakers 2004 finals.
bulon1122
Apr 12, 2008, 09:32 AM
but udo will also be there and the rest of the lions...dapat full force ang RL so that they can gauge their performance as a team...first five...ekwe,udo,menor,escobal,hermida second marcelo,taganas,lanete,pascual,gamalinda third tirona,padilla,gege...tough one!!!
ateneo first five tiu,salamat,long,nkemakolam,al-hussaini second salva,buenafe,baldos,baclao,escueta third sumalinog,reyes,monfort,austria...tough din!
for sure...its a shoot out!!! RED AND BLUE will clash again! Let's go to ULTRA and cheer our beloved teams!!!
bulon1122
Apr 12, 2008, 09:49 AM
Go San Beda Fight!!!
blue&green
Apr 12, 2008, 09:52 AM
ateneo. di pa kasi nananalo ang SBC against ateneo eh :D
pulangpula
Apr 12, 2008, 10:32 AM
ateneo. di pa kasi nananalo ang SBC against ateneo eh :D
Papaano laging pinagbibigyan eh :rotflmao:
blue&green
Apr 12, 2008, 10:48 AM
Papaano laging pinagbibigyan eh :rotflmao:
cge sabi mo eh :naughty: :D :rolleyes: :naughty:
Gospel of Judas
Apr 12, 2008, 11:00 AM
puro excuse porke nakakahanap lang kayo ng katapat sa uaap. hahahaha
now what poetic justice it is to see the man who you have been calling a mercenary chop you to pieces tomorrow
mynameisearl
Apr 12, 2008, 11:09 AM
It is not right to say that we have not beaten the blue eagles. Naalala ko nuong opening ng isang tournament way back in 2006, after SBC won the NCAA championship, the RL won over them.
The blue eagles is a team. IF they win, they will win as a team with Black as their court general and Tiu as their main gunner, not because of anybody in particular.
blue&green
Apr 12, 2008, 11:11 AM
^
i can't remember that. care to elaborate on the RL's win over the eagles? baka maalala ko
Gospel of Judas
Apr 12, 2008, 11:14 AM
sa ncaa all-stars daw
kasi meron naman bedan saka atenean players dun
pgma
Apr 12, 2008, 11:14 AM
WHAT IF RL win... i wonder what will the critics say? :D
let me guess: it off season, pinagbigyan, BE is just testing the water, injury, tsamba.. :D
good luck
blue&green
Apr 12, 2008, 11:15 AM
^
ay parang yan *** sinasabi ni pulangpula ah :)
mynameisearl
Apr 12, 2008, 11:17 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I can remember it happened last 2006, after SBC won the NCAA. San Beda was minus its star players and the ateneo was missing the services of Intal, Tiu and Kramer.
blue&green
Apr 12, 2008, 11:19 AM
^
what tournament would that be? i'll try to look for it :)
mynameisearl
Apr 12, 2008, 11:44 AM
Homegrown Cup, November 2006, Ateneo dropped its opener to San Beda, 59-56, in a game where both teams played minus key players.
blue&green
Apr 12, 2008, 11:48 AM
^
i stand corrected :)
philippines123
Apr 12, 2008, 12:43 PM
san beda will win by at least 15 points.
nakakahiya kapag natalo sila sa ateneo... e NCAA champion sila at malaki ang ginastos ng San Beda sa mga players nito.
bulon1122
Apr 12, 2008, 06:08 PM
pareho lang naman ang financer ng team ng dalawa eh...kaya yung rivalry ng dalawa parang nawala na talaga plus hindi na sila sa iisang league...parang sister team...like purefoods, magnolia and ginebra...pero siempre labanan parin...magkaiba parin ang dalawa...may pride paring pinaglalabanan...masaya ito...parang ginebra vs purefoods or purefoods vs magnolia...medyo rival pero iisa ang main financer although may iba paring financer na alumnus.
isang tulog na lang labanan na...sa palagay ko match yung dalawang team...magaling sila sa opensa and magaling din sila sa depensa...yung nagblink..yun ang talo...GO RED, GO BLUE!!!
its hard to say who will win as of now...pero siempre for me...san beda...GO SAN BEDA FIGHT!!!
aljamal
Apr 12, 2008, 06:27 PM
fearless forecast:
SAN BEDA REDLIONS WILL WIN BY A DOUBLE DIGIT MARGIN*okay* *okay*
Ferocious Lion
Apr 12, 2008, 08:04 PM
Ateneo is the CCL champs plus they have all blue chips recruit. They should dispose the Red*Lions easily.
RougePercer
Apr 12, 2008, 08:08 PM
Ateneo will win this one.
Go for UAAP Ateneo!
blue&green
Apr 12, 2008, 09:29 PM
^
di naman daw seseryosohin ng SBC eh.
red_track
Apr 12, 2008, 10:17 PM
what time po yung game? iba iba kasi *** nababasa kong time sa net ng game sa net. thnks
blue&green
Apr 12, 2008, 10:22 PM
2 po *** SBC v ADMU. 1 ang opening ceremonies
red_track
Apr 12, 2008, 10:32 PM
^ salamat blue&green
celtics
Apr 12, 2008, 10:42 PM
San Beda will win this match. Their line up is still intact except kay Aljamal and have a talented tall players like Ekwe and Marcelo.
chellotte8
Apr 13, 2008, 12:56 AM
^
di naman daw seseryosohin ng SBC eh.
Wag mong pansinin yung mga nagsasabing hindi seseryosohin yung laban...
Malamang seseryosohin yan ng RL...
k20
Apr 13, 2008, 01:32 PM
Ateneo by a double digit margin. SBC can only handle teams in the NCAA pag dating sa mga taga UAAP they become ordinary. Besides, matagal ng hindi nananalo Red Lions sa Blue Eagles. Tuloy-tuloy lnag ang streak.
MonL
Apr 13, 2008, 03:55 PM
SBC won, 70-61.
pgma
Apr 13, 2008, 03:56 PM
ahem ahem ahem
hehehehe
70 - 61
ANIMO SAN BEDA!
:D
martin_gorgeous
Apr 13, 2008, 04:04 PM
any pics of the game?hehe
motuphils
Apr 13, 2008, 04:23 PM
Ateneo by a double digit margin. SBC can only handle teams in the NCAA pag dating sa mga taga UAAP they become ordinary. Besides, matagal ng hindi nananalo Red Lions sa Blue Eagles. Tuloy-tuloy lnag ang streak.
The "streak" ended. So....ummm...say that again?
hehehe!
ANIMO SAN BEDA!!!
Bchemist
Apr 13, 2008, 05:15 PM
Congrants to the Red Lions!
Good job NCAA!
Ferocious Lion
Apr 13, 2008, 05:23 PM
SBC only won because:
1. Bad officiating (NABRO referees?)
2. Ateneo was not serious
3. SBC*wanted the game so much
4. SBC has 2 "imports"
5. Wala yun BBB
6. Blah blah blah
Derrick_Rose
Apr 13, 2008, 05:25 PM
Ang galing ni Oggie Menor
red_lazze
Apr 13, 2008, 05:49 PM
pls paki lagay sa youtube... tenx!!
ANIMO SANBEDA!!!
RedRidingDragon
Apr 13, 2008, 06:02 PM
pati box scores
boredtoday
Apr 13, 2008, 06:03 PM
SBC only won because:
1. Bad officiating (NABRO referees?)
2. Ateneo was not serious
3. SBC*wanted the game so much
4. SBC has 2 "imports"
5. Wala yun BBB
6. Blah blah blah
7. Coach Black was just experimenting with his rookies.
math01
Apr 13, 2008, 07:11 PM
san beda won. Salva and Buenafe were none factors.
philippines123
Apr 13, 2008, 07:38 PM
Serious ang san beda kanina. gustuing gusto nung coach nila na tambakan ang ateneo. sino ba yung coach nila at parang ***** ng dating. kung makasigaw kala mo sya may-ari ng Pasig...
pansin ko nga rin na sobrang pag-eexperiment ni Black sa mga Rookies. There was 1 incident during the closing period na yung cute na rookie e naghahanap ng veteran na mag-a-assist sana kaso walang makita... dying seconds of the game tapos naagawan ni menor (or ekwe)... sayang talaga yun.
ang sa akin lang 1st game nila tapos puro rookie pinaglaro mula 1st quarter. halos 2-3 lang ang hindi naglalarong rookie each time e.
I believe SBC will win this tournament. talagang malakas sila. syang lang at hindi natambakan ang ateneo dahil may mga sablay din na tira.
madami din palang players ang san beda... 13 ata yung count ko... akala ko 8-9 lang sila kase pare-parehong mukha ang naglalaro. but the important thing is, they won.
mabuti na lang din hindi nagtsinelas si Pong after the game kundi aalingasaw na naman ang hindi kagandahang amoy sa ultra. yun lang.
Udo is good nga pala.
philippines123
Apr 13, 2008, 07:45 PM
Serious ang san beda kanina. gustuing gusto nung coach nila na tambakan ang ateneo. sino ba yung coach nila at parang ***** ng dating. kung makasigaw kala mo sya may-ari ng Pasig...
pansin ko nga rin na sobrang pag-eexperiment ni Black sa mga Rookies. There was 1 incident during the closing period na yung cute na rookie e naghahanap ng veteran na mag-a-assist sana kaso walang makita... dying seconds of the game tapos naagawan ni menor (or ekwe)... sayang talaga yun.
ang sa akin lang 1st game nila tapos puro rookie pinaglaro mula 1st quarter. halos 2-3 lang ang hindi naglalarong rookie each time e.
I believe SBC will win this tournament. talagang malakas sila. syang lang at hindi natambakan ang ateneo dahil may mga sablay din na tira.
madami din palang players ang san beda... 13 ata yung count ko... akala ko 8-9 lang sila kase pare-parehong mukha ang naglalaro. but the important thing is, they won.
mabuti na lang din hindi nagtsinelas si Pong after the game kundi aalingasaw na naman ang hindi kagandahang amoy sa ultra. yun lang.
Udo is good nga pala.
k20
Apr 13, 2008, 08:36 PM
Put it this way. The law of averages caught up with Ateneo. These things happen but it is really more of the exception rather than the rule. I hope we meet again this year if only to prove a point.
Ferocious Lion
Apr 13, 2008, 08:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferocious Lion View Post
SBC only won because:
1. Bad officiating (NABRO referees?)
2. Ateneo was not serious
3. SBC*wanted the game so much
4. SBC has 2 "imports"
5. Wala yun BBB
6. Blah blah blah
7. Coach Black was just experimenting with his rookies
8. Law of averages caught up with ateneo
Any other reason for the loss?
Ferocious Lion
Apr 13, 2008, 08:46 PM
Put it this way. The law of averages caught up with Ateneo. These things happen but it is really more of the exception rather than the rule. I hope we meet again this year if only to prove a point.
We'll see you then in the CCL IF you make the UAAP Final 4. ;)
bulon1122
Apr 13, 2008, 08:59 PM
ateneo plays good kanina although marami silang turn overs...might be the defense or talagang nagaadjust pa sila, pero hindi natin masasabi na hindi seryoso yung laro...pride ang pinaglalabanan dito...anyway...a win is a win...congrats to san beda!
Bomber Boy
Apr 13, 2008, 09:11 PM
Serious ang san beda kanina. gustuing gusto nung coach nila na tambakan ang ateneo. sino ba yung coach nila at parang ***** ng dating. kung makasigaw kala mo sya may-ari ng Pasig...
pansin ko nga rin na sobrang pag-eexperiment ni Black sa mga Rookies. There was 1 incident during the closing period na yung cute na rookie e naghahanap ng veteran na mag-a-assist sana kaso walang makita... dying seconds of the game tapos naagawan ni menor (or ekwe)... sayang talaga yun.
ang sa akin lang 1st game nila tapos puro rookie pinaglaro mula 1st quarter. halos 2-3 lang ang hindi naglalarong rookie each time e.
I believe SBC will win this tournament. talagang malakas sila. syang lang at hindi natambakan ang ateneo dahil may mga sablay din na tira.
madami din palang players ang san beda... 13 ata yung count ko... akala ko 8-9 lang sila kase pare-parehong mukha ang naglalaro. but the important thing is, they won.
mabuti na lang din hindi nagtsinelas si Pong after the game kundi aalingasaw na naman ang hindi kagandahang amoy sa ultra. yun lang.
Udo is good nga pala.
huwag naman ganyan, kitang kita naman na sineryoso din ng ateneo iyung game eh, kaya panay na lang hawi ang ginagawa nila pag tumitira eh:rotflmao: . seriously, kahit nagkakaasaran kami ng mga bedista dito eh na-cheapan ako sa commentary ni potit de vera, para na lang walang ginawang tama ang beda kahit sila ang nanalo. pansinin mo rin na nung lumamang beda second team nila iyung nasa loob.
tama na bangayan dito, nakakasawa na rin minsan eh. pahinga muna, i-reserba mo muna iyan.
Bomber Boy
Apr 13, 2008, 09:16 PM
Any other reason for the loss?
tanggapin na lang natin na kahit anong mangyari eh hindi tayo irerespeto ng mga atenista at la salista. feeling nila eh sila lang ang magagaling. siguro kasi for them iniwan nila ncaa kaya gusto lang nila ipakita na tama ang desisyon nila. kanina ngang lunch eh kumakain ako sa phoa sa shangri-la, may tatlong mga la salista na terno pang ralph lauren na green iyung suot (iyung malaki iyung logo ng polo player). nagkukuwentuhan na bakit daw against the squatters iyung first game nila. paparinggan ko rin sana na bakit mga matapobre at mandaraya iyung makakalaban ng jru. leche, nawalan tuloy ako ng gana kumain, sarap pa naman nung noodles dun.
Get_Blazed
Apr 13, 2008, 09:21 PM
Pls stop creating many threads for every game to come. Pls abide by posting to the FilOil Flying V 2008 Preseason Tournament thread:
http://pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332794&page=8
And oh, please stop the bashings. Kakasimula palang ng tourney may nagbabangayan na. Kesyo di sineryoso, dinaya, or whatever. Enough excuses. A win is a win, and a loss is a loss. Nothing more to argue about. Hope wala nang mga ganyang comments. Let us have intellectual analysis using basketball knowledge alone. Wala nalang biases and flamebaitings, please.:disgust:
We are the Few, Loud, and Proud!
Faith in the Flame!
ANIMO BENILDE!:grrr:
NCAA Philippines Multiply site: (http://ncaaphil.multiply.com):bounce2:
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6579/pinoyvq1.jpg (http://ncaaphil.multiply.com)
wellwell
Apr 13, 2008, 09:32 PM
Sana sinagot mo kasi you are not the kind of person who is at lost with words pag nasa cyberspace ka.
I am sorry but I disagree na ganyan lahat ang mga taga UAAP. Hindi naman lahat. My brother is a full blooded Atenean and my sister graduated from Ateneo. Another sister from UP. I have uncles that studied at Ateneo and my parents are from UST. They don't look down on me and my cousins because we are Bedans. I guess yung ganyan attitude is more of upbringing and family background. Our school can only teach us so much, pero pag uwi natin ang nananaig pa din ay ang impluwensya ng mga kaibigan at mga kapamilya.
Ang kasalanan ng iilan ay hindi kasalanan ng lahat.
wellwell
Apr 13, 2008, 09:46 PM
Although San Beda won against Ateneo, I don't think we should celebrate since the tournament is not yet over. Nothing can be more gratifying than to win this tournament so that we start our NCAA campaign on a good note.
wellwell
Apr 13, 2008, 09:50 PM
Also, let us win this one not only for San Beda, our country and God but also for the NCAA. This is the best way we can shatter the other league's claim of superiority.
pgma
Apr 13, 2008, 09:58 PM
Any other reason for the loss?
9. Weather Factor. sobrang init
kirk_hammett
Apr 13, 2008, 10:12 PM
tanggapin na lang natin na kahit anong mangyari eh hindi tayo irerespeto ng mga atenista at la salista. feeling nila eh sila lang ang magagaling. siguro kasi for them iniwan nila ncaa kaya gusto lang nila ipakita na tama ang desisyon nila. kanina ngang lunch eh kumakain ako sa phoa sa shangri-la, may tatlong mga la salista na terno pang ralph lauren na green iyung suot (iyung malaki iyung logo ng polo player). nagkukuwentuhan na bakit daw against the squatters iyung first game nila. paparinggan ko rin sana na bakit mga matapobre at mandaraya iyung makakalaban ng jru. leche, nawalan tuloy ako ng gana kumain, sarap pa naman nung noodles dun.
haha..dapat pinaringgan mo pre!
pulangpula
Apr 13, 2008, 10:19 PM
9. Weather Factor. sobrang init
10. Practice uniforms lang ginamit ng Ateneo
pulangpula
Apr 13, 2008, 10:23 PM
Let me add as well na according to the commentators only those 50-60 years old were excited to watch an Ateneo-San Beda game. No. 11 iyan.
pgma
Apr 13, 2008, 10:24 PM
11. Ateneo team C
pulangpula
Apr 13, 2008, 10:33 PM
Put it this way. The law of averages caught up with Ateneo. These things happen but it is really more of the exception rather than the rule. I hope we meet again this year if only to prove a point.
Duh, what law of averages? Fact, Ateneo has yet to beat San Beda in a tournament game, all those wins they had where either during friendlies or exhibition cum practice games.
kirk_hammett
Apr 13, 2008, 10:41 PM
baka naman "Law of Excuses" yan:D :lol: :rotflmao:
free_speech
Apr 13, 2008, 10:51 PM
SBC only won because:
1. Bad officiating (NABRO referees?)
2. Ateneo was not serious
3. SBC*wanted the game so much
4. SBC has 2 "imports"
5. Wala yun BBB
6. Blah blah blah
Aba aba....alam niyo rin pala ang tatak ng ADMU for giving excuses. WOW! :)
FISH !!! :lol: :evilgrin: :lol:
red_real_animo
Apr 13, 2008, 10:56 PM
Ateneo is the CCL champs plus they have all blue chips recruit. They should dispose the Red*Lions easily.
Blue chips recruit?!? who buenafe, salva and chua? yeah, so much for the "blue chips recruit" factor. Hmmmm... hindi ko ata nakita ang impact ni buenafe sa laro nya kanina, hilaw pa. Chua, this kid is a mountain - but more of a project for coach norman black.
Ateneo should worry about LA Revilla instead in the upcoming UAAP season... this kid is the real deal - the "real" blue chip recruit. Na-overlook kaya sya ni coach Norman Black? Sayang naman si Revilla, 1-2 punch kasi sila ni Salva.
Hatch Roundhead
Apr 13, 2008, 11:13 PM
Congratulations sa Red Lions. Weder weder lang talaga yan. Minsan nananalo, minsan naman gumagawa ng rason.
So pag nanalo, magsaya, konting kwento at namnamin ang sarap.
Pag NATALO - tanggapin!!! di ba.
blue&green
Apr 13, 2008, 11:16 PM
san beda won. Salva and Buenafe were none factors.
salva was a not a factor, no doubt. he's getting lost in the ateneo offense. buenafe, on the other hand, is different. it looks like coach is trying to hide someone from the public. from the short time he was in, i noticed that he knows how to move in the offense, a very good sign.
blue&green
Apr 13, 2008, 11:17 PM
Any other reason for the loss?
wow, pagnatalo ang ateneo, ang mga bedista naghahanap ng excuse na manggagaling sa ateneo. bakit kaya? pag ateneo nanalo, kayo unang-una magsasabi na di naman sineryoso... wow :D
AFAIK, ateneo still has SBC's numbers :)
blue&green
Apr 13, 2008, 11:19 PM
baka naman "Law of Excuses" yan:D :lol: :rotflmao:
di ba nga, tulad ng sabi mo sa UAAP forum:
"win or loose?" :D
blue&green
Apr 13, 2008, 11:22 PM
Blue chips recruit?!? who buenafe, salva and chua? yeah, so much for the "blue chips recruit" factor. Hmmmm... hindi ko ata nakita ang impact ni buenafe sa laro nya kanina, hilaw pa. Chua, this kid is a mountain - but more of a project for coach norman black.
Ateneo should worry about LA Revilla instead in the upcoming UAAP season... this kid is the real deal - the "real" blue chip recruit. Na-overlook kaya sya ni coach Norman Black? Sayang naman si Revilla, 1-2 punch kasi sila ni Salva.
i think you watched a different game. correct me if i'm wrong, but of all the rookies of ateneo, only salva played significant minutes and was a not a factor. buenafe was in about 5-6 minutes give or take two to three. among all the rookies, in the very little time he was fielded in, he seems to be the one that has been accustomed to the offense and defense of ateneo. chua, as the saying goes, may daga sa dibdib (at mukhang mejo marami pa :lol: ). same goes with salva.
Hatch Roundhead
Apr 13, 2008, 11:24 PM
Tanggapin na lang. Talo na e. Bawi na lang next time. Tapos na e. Sa ibang teams na lang bumawi. Tapos pag nagka harap ulit, bawi na alng. Pero ngayon talo, tanggapin. Tapos!!
blue&green
Apr 13, 2008, 11:29 PM
Tanggapin na lang. Talo na e. Bawi na lang next time. Tapos na e. Sa ibang teams na lang bumawi. Tapos pag nagka harap ulit, bawi na alng. Pero ngayon talo, tanggapin. Tapos!!
sino bang di tumatanggap?:confused:
nash_bedista
Apr 13, 2008, 11:31 PM
Ala yung impact ng rookies, except sympre kay Salva,
Chua will be the next "FORD ARAO".. ............................................................................after 5 yrs... hahah
blue&green
Apr 13, 2008, 11:35 PM
^
Salva was really not a factor. as i have said, looking at how he played, the guy shows a lot of potential but still seems to get lost in the offensive set of ateneo. in fairness, once he gets on the same page with the team, he'll be a force to reckon with.
Hatch Roundhead
Apr 13, 2008, 11:45 PM
sino bang di tumatanggap?:confused:
Thank you!:) *okay*
red_real_animo
Apr 13, 2008, 11:48 PM
i think you watched a different game. correct me if i'm wrong, but of all the rookies of ateneo, only salva played significant minutes and was a none factor. buenafe was in about 5-6 minutes give or take two to three. among all the rookies, in the very little time he was fielded in, he seems to be the one that has been accustomed to the offense and defense of ateneo. chua, as the saying goes, may daga sa dibdib (at mukhang mejo marami pa :lol: ). same goes with salva.
I agree that chua, "as the saying goes, may daga pa sa dibdib" obviously hindi pa sanay sa brand ng college ball. Wala naman kasi syang ka-match when this kid was still in HS, dominant talaga 'tong batang to back then.
Don't worry B&G I watched the same game, and I still stand by my opinions and observation (lol) :lol:
blue&green
Apr 14, 2008, 12:00 AM
^
so you noticed that after a few of good plays by buenafe, he was taken out and never fielded in again?
si revilla naman, i think he's small and might create match-up problems. if he is in the same league with Tenorio (which is still to be determined) then i see no problems but if not, then i see match-up problems. galing sana, maliit lang
Hatch Roundhead
Apr 14, 2008, 12:01 AM
Forgiveable ang games ng rookies ng Ateneo. Bago pa lang sila at sa tingin ko ay kelan lang sila nag practice sa team.
Si Salva, Bedista pa rin yan. Kanina nga kasabay niyang maglaro ang dalawa pang red cubs, si Escueta at Baldos..
kirk_hammett
Apr 14, 2008, 12:03 AM
di ba nga, tulad ng sabi mo sa UAAP forum:
"win or loose?" :D
my bad..pinalitan ko. lose pala yon.
"Win or lose mayroong excuse"
ayan edited na:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
blue&green
Apr 14, 2008, 12:03 AM
^
si escueta, baldos and salva, bedista talaga
after the game, they sang with the bedan crowd :)
blue&green
Apr 14, 2008, 12:06 AM
my bad..pinalitan ko. lose pala yon.
"Win or lose mayroong excuse"
ayan edited na:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
tulad ng sabi ko,
pag kayo talo, di kayo seryoso
pag kami ang talo, hahanapan mo rin kami ng excuse? wow...
as i have said before, AFAIK, ateneo still has SBC's numbers. :)
kirk_hammett
Apr 14, 2008, 12:15 AM
tulad ng sabi ko,
pag kayo talo, di kayo seryoso
pag kami ang talo, hahanapan mo rin kami ng excuse? wow...
as i have said before, AFAIK, ateneo still has SBC's numbers. :)
ganon talaga...yung iba diyan kapag natalo mahilig magbigay ng excuse..pero ibahin mo ko sa kanila pre:)
blue&green
Apr 14, 2008, 12:17 AM
^
sana you follow what you preach. parang sinasabi mo rin kasi na all ateneans produce excuses whenever talo ang team.
if you don't want us to generalize then stop generalizing yourself.:)
kirk_hammett
Apr 14, 2008, 12:19 AM
^
sana you follow what you preach. parang sinasabi mo rin kasi na all ateneans produce excuses whenever talo ang team.
if you don't want us to generalize then stop generalizing yourself.:)
"parang sinasabi mo rin kasi na all ateneans produce excuses whenever talo ang team" --> I never said that dude:)
motuphils
Apr 14, 2008, 12:21 AM
blue and green, for awhile I thought you have "accepted" the loss. So what's with the "Ateneo still has SBC's numbers" statement? Natalo na nga di ba? SBC had Ateneo's number this time. Just as Ateneo had SBC's number in their previous match-up. Simple as that.
blue&green
Apr 14, 2008, 12:27 AM
"parang sinasabi mo rin kasi na all ateneans produce excuses whenever talo ang team" --> I never said that dude:)
my bad..pinalitan ko. lose pala yon.
"Win or lose mayroong excuse"
dude, that sentence says it all. bakit naman *** alma mater song pa ang napili mong pagdiskitahan. that song is associated with ateneans as much as the SBC hymn is associated with every bedan.
blue&green
Apr 14, 2008, 12:31 AM
blue and green, for awhile I thought you have "accepted" the loss. So what's with the "Ateneo still has SBC's numbers" statement? Natalo na nga di ba? SBC had Ateneo's number this time. Just as Ateneo had SBC's number in their previous match-up. Simple as that.
i just said that para matigil na ang pagyayabang ng ibang bedans. i have accepted the loss. i just don't appreciate what some bedans here are doing. it would have been nice if they gave their own analysis of the game, hindi *** "o ano na excuse?". it's just a phrase to keep their feet on the ground.
kirk_hammett
Apr 14, 2008, 12:33 AM
dude, that sentence says it all. bakit naman *** alma mater song pa ang napili mong pagdiskitahan. that song is associated with ateneans as much as the SBC hymn is associated with every bedan.
But it doesn't mean na natutwa at sumasangayon ako sa mga iba na nagbibigay ng excuse kapag natatalo...Bedans or not:)
blue&green
Apr 14, 2008, 12:35 AM
^
un pala eh. so stop generalizing. not all ateneans give excuses when the team loses.
kirk_hammett
Apr 14, 2008, 12:38 AM
^
un pala eh. so stop generalizing. not all ateneans give excuses when the team loses.
I never generalized. I posted that message in the UAAP forum for bahay_kubo :)
chellotte8
Apr 14, 2008, 12:39 AM
Congratulations to San Beda RL...
ANIMO San Beda!!!
GO San Beda FIGHT!!!
blue&green
Apr 14, 2008, 12:45 AM
I never generalized. I posted that message in the UAAP forum for bahay_kubo :)
then you shouldn't have used that phrase to describe one person. it sends the wrong signal. :)
chellotte8
Apr 14, 2008, 01:05 AM
i just said that para matigil na ang pagyayabang ng ibang bedans. i have accepted the loss. i just don't appreciate what some bedans here are doing. it would have been nice if they gave their own analysis of the game, hindi *** "o ano na excuse?". it's just a phrase to keep their feet on the ground.
Actually some Bedans are just fired up with the win against Ateneo...
Maybe because there are many people from UAAP schools who keep on saying that NCAA teams can't win over the top UAAP teams...
blue&green
Apr 14, 2008, 01:08 AM
^
I guess that's one top team and a few more to go for SBC! :) good luck :)
mighty_lion
Apr 14, 2008, 02:01 AM
Lintek! Preseason na rin pala dito sa PEX. Isang game lang parang NCAA Season Pex na dito ah. Naglalabasan na kaagad ang mga trolls. Mga Parekoy' ligo lang ang katapat nyan, Summer kasi.
Get_Blazed
Apr 14, 2008, 08:14 AM
Pls stop creating many threads for every game to come. Pls abide by posting to the FilOil Flying V 2008 Preseason Tournament thread:
http://pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332794&page=8
And oh, please stop the bashings. Kakasimula palang ng tourney may nagbabangayan na. Kesyo di sineryoso, dinaya, or whatever. Enough excuses. A win is a win, and a loss is a loss. Nothing more to argue about. Hope wala nang mga ganyang comments. Let us have intellectual analysis using basketball knowledge alone. Wala nalang biases and flamebaitings, please. :disgust:
I hope this would be the last thread. Post everything about the Flying V tourney in the thread for that topic.
We are the Few, Loud, and Proud!
Faith in the Flame!
ANIMO BENILDE!:grrr:
NCAA Philippines Multiply site: (http://ncaaphil.multiply.com):bounce2:
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6579/pinoyvq1.jpg (http://ncaaphil.multiply.com)
NYHC
Apr 14, 2008, 10:33 AM
hahah malayo pa yan wag munang mag salita. peace to all.
ika nga.. panalo ka sa game.
pero hindi ka pa champion.. so malayo pa
madami pang mang yayari na iba.. and madami pang team na makakalaban.
good luck!
Go San Beda Fight!!
wellwell
Apr 14, 2008, 03:01 PM
Let us be magnanimous in victory.
Thank you Ateneo.
dagitab24
Apr 14, 2008, 04:15 PM
Good game by San Beda yesterday. I was really amazed by Ekwe's turnaround jumpers and jump hooks. If he extends his range up to 20 feet out, he'll be more of a force to reckon with and no one in the college leagues will be able to stop him.
Kudos also to Ogie Menor and Pong Escobal. Escobal showed up at just the right time. Taganas was also surprising from outside. And the RL were simply killing us off the offensive boards.
After their loss to Ateneo earlier this summer, they worked on stopping Ateneo's outside shooters. The coaching staff learned their lessons well. The perimeter defense was better overall and there were no easy baskets.
As for Ateneo, they could've used a trio of Tiu, Austria, and Salamat to break the press. It was painful to see Kirk Long lose the ball to the sidelines just like Paul Tan-Chi used to do against DLSU. Austria, for all his baby fat, is a better press-breaker. Salamat's becoming a better fastbreak finisher and that in-your-face steal off Borgie Hermida was a thing of beauty.
11. Ateneo team C
12. We actually 'overachieved' --ADMU
Sorry, can't help it haha..:D
pulangpula
Apr 14, 2008, 04:57 PM
Kudos also to Ogie Menor and Pong Escobal. Escobal showed up at just the right time. Taganas was also surprising from outside. And the RL were simply killing us off the offensive boards.
JR Taganas worked on his outside shot during the lull in the College basketball season. Too bad he still hasn't been given the green light to attempt three pointers during actual games. He has been working hard during practice in launching those 3pt shots, apparently he's patterning his game after another Red Lion great, Chito Loyzaga.
pgma
Apr 14, 2008, 05:18 PM
^^
nag improve talaga si baby shaq :D of course, dyan parin *** patented 3" vertical leap :D lufet parin sa rebound :D
ampog
Apr 14, 2008, 06:16 PM
I guess the choking press did wonders for San Beda, it really complemented their running game plus a better rotation being applied by the coaching staff this time kaya most of the time they have fresh legs. Unlike in their previous game in the CCL wherein coach Franky Lim would only use around 6-7 players, talagang lupaypay sa end game mga key players. Na caught unaware Ateneo I think pero babawi yan. I have seen how devastating this team during the last CCL, talagang malakas, kaya nga sila nag champion without really working out a sweat sa 2007 CCL eh
philippines123
Apr 14, 2008, 08:05 PM
madumi maglaro ang san beda. daming nakakita.
pulang leon
Apr 14, 2008, 08:28 PM
^
un pala eh. so stop generalizing. not all ateneans give excuses when the team loses.
Tama.. not all ateneans give excuses when their team or school loses... only 99% of them do give excuses, the 1% are the few Bedans who are enrolled in ateneo who couldn't any excuse if they lose to San Beda... eh SAN BEDA YAN EH! Bedans aren't trained to give or even think of an excuse if they fail, but Ateneans are ver well trained by Jesuits to think that they can not fail, and if they do, they give excuses. That's where they get their false identity of themselves as being the best.. good, in an "academic" way, but not the best. But if you win against San Beda or a Bedan, you must be really good then. A win against San Beda deserves a trophy, or a lifetime achievement award, or maybe some sort of a noble price.
blue&green
Apr 14, 2008, 08:40 PM
Tama.. not all ateneans give excuses when their team or school loses... only 99% of them do give excuses, the 1% are the few Bedans who are enrolled in ateneo who couldn't any excuse if they lose to San Beda... eh SAN BEDA YAN EH! Bedans aren't trained to give or even think of an excuse if they fail, but Ateneans are ver well trained by Jesuits to think that they can not fail, and if they do, they give excuses. That's where they get their false identity of themselves as being the best.. good, in an "academic" way, but not the best. But if you win against San Beda or a Bedan, you must be really good then. A win against San Beda deserves a trophy, or a lifetime achievement award, or maybe some sort of a noble price.
wow, so i belong to the 1%? fyi: i have never studied or even stepped in SBC.
Bedans aren't trained to give or even think of an excuse? ehem ehem...:rotflmao: mukhang maraming matatamaan dito ah.
i think ateneo is one of the best academic institution in the country today. the institution is highly regarded even by people outside of the PI. this is proven by the AUN membership awarded to the said school (i forgot when).
pulang leon
Apr 14, 2008, 09:01 PM
Well.. i just rounded it up to 1%.. the real number is actually .89%... you actually belong (if you really were true to your word) to the .11%... so congrats! maybe San Beda can give you a St. Benedict's medal, you come over to our bookstore and give fifty pesos to one of the guys there and they'll give you a nice medal... this could also be your chance to "step" inside San Beda... it's a privilege, so you can tell your grandkids one day that you have been inside San Beda when you were younger... and you'll amaze them.
I never said ateneo was never good in academics, I think I just said they were in my last post, that they are good. I just said they were never the best. Which people outside PI are you talking about? You mean the foreign visitors ateneo invites to their school or uaap games? And the ones who are enrolled in it? You mean those people? LOL.
I've already logged out kanina but I remember this ORIGINAL and anyone would be able to definitely tell the person is an ATENEAN because EVERY ATENEAN SAYS THIS:
Excuse Number 14: If you excell in sports, it means that you don't usually excell in academics. We concentrate in academics more.
Hehehe.. This was all over the UAAP forums and I heard someone said it on TV too before, at least once. But I'll wait for reponses first before I write more about their excuses... hehehe. I wanna hear what everybody thinks about this very famous and exclusive excuse number 14... (14 na nga ba?) This excuse is very much identified with their true mentality of being an atenean.
blue&green
Apr 14, 2008, 09:10 PM
out of line. delete na lang
Katchatore
Apr 14, 2008, 10:07 PM
DLSU is also applying for membership.
AUN na tayo bago ADMU. DLSU and UP were there first.
green_overcomer
Apr 14, 2008, 10:35 PM
Blue&Green:
Your knowledge betrays you. DLSU is NOT applying for membership. It is already a member.
blue&green
Apr 14, 2008, 11:57 PM
^
green, i was thinking about the eco program being accepted in the AUN. alam ko kasi di pa tanggap un eh :)
blue&green
Apr 15, 2008, 12:23 AM
AUN na tayo bago ADMU. DLSU and UP were there first.
sorry katch, i was thinking of the economics program. the talk we had in Yuch gave me the idea that we are still not a member. :)
chellotte8
Apr 15, 2008, 01:14 AM
blue&green, stay away from the flames...
Cr0w
Apr 15, 2008, 03:21 AM
out of line. delete na lang
blue&green, nahiya ka pa. Ano ba yun?
pulang leon, ilang % ng SBC ang nag-make ng excuse na di nila sineseryoso ang mga tournaments like FMC, Fil-oil, etc.?
dagitab24
Apr 15, 2008, 08:42 AM
Well.. i just rounded it up to 1%.. the real number is actually .89%... you actually belong (if you really were true to your word) to the .11%... so congrats! maybe San Beda can give you a St. Benedict's medal, you come over to our bookstore and give fifty pesos to one of the guys there and they'll give you a nice medal... this could also be your chance to "step" inside San Beda... it's a privilege, so you can tell your grandkids one day that you have been inside San Beda when you were younger... and you'll amaze them.
I never said ateneo was never good in academics, I think I just said they were in my last post, that they are good. I just said they were never the best. Which people outside PI are you talking about? You mean the foreign visitors ateneo invites to their school or uaap games? And the ones who are enrolled in it? You mean those people? LOL.
I've already logged out kanina but I remember this ORIGINAL and anyone would be able to definitely tell the person is an ATENEAN because EVERY ATENEAN SAYS THIS:
Excuse Number 14: If you excell in sports, it means that you don't usually excell in academics. We concentrate in academics more.
Hehehe.. This was all over the UAAP forums and I heard someone said it on TV too before, at least once. But I'll wait for reponses first before I write more about their excuses... hehehe. I wanna hear what everybody thinks about this very famous and exclusive excuse number 14... (14 na nga ba?) This excuse is very much identified with their true mentality of being an atenean.
Pasensya na sa mga sensible, non-flamebaiting Bedans dito.
I'm from Ateneo. I chose to go there for college. I have a lot of friends from other schools as well.
With all those years of having friends from other schools, isa lang ang masasabi ko: All of them have their bad eggs, just as they all have their share of good people. And that includes people who don't offer excuses for failure, athletic or otherwise.
It's obvious that you haven't hung around Ateneans enough to get to know them better. And you haven't read my post above. I didn't give any excuses. Hindi sa papansin ako, pero kung ayaw mong ma-generalize, HUWAG kang mang-generalize. More often, the label tells more about the labeller than the labelled.
Actually, I'm not from San Beda. Does that place me in your so-called 89.9% majority? I don't think so. And I don't have anything against your school. It's people like you, regardless of the school you came from, that I have issues with.
dagitab24
Apr 15, 2008, 08:45 AM
^^
nag improve talaga si baby shaq :D of course, dyan parin *** patented 3" vertical leap :D lufet parin sa rebound :D
Baby Shaq actually reminds me of Bong Hawkins. Walang vertical leap, pero halimaw sa box-out. Taganas has a better-looking shot, though.
blue&green
Apr 15, 2008, 09:52 AM
blue&green, nahiya ka pa. Ano ba yun?
pulang leon, ilang % ng SBC ang nag-make ng excuse na di nila sineseryoso ang mga tournaments like FMC, Fil-oil, etc.?
out of line eh. maraming bedans na may sense at hindi katulad nya mag post kaya nakakahiya sa kanila. :)
juan bedista
Apr 15, 2008, 10:45 AM
when will people here ever stop throwing mud at each other?
san beda and ateneo are two fine institutions, they do not deserve to have their reputations tainted by having so-called students post unwarranted and uneducated remarks over the net.
to my fellow bedans, if you really are true bedans be magnanimous in victory and don't mind the seemingly offensive posts here.
mystical_prophe
Apr 15, 2008, 12:30 PM
madumi maglaro ang san beda. daming nakakita.
like what?????......:confused:
bagtitako
Apr 15, 2008, 12:31 PM
We lost to a better team overall and we should dwell on how to improve especially with all the hype we got from the recruits we now have. Honestly we are running out of reasons so just go back to the drawing board and plan out the game with FEU.
Remember DLSU played a great game and even their rookies had decent games. Let's dwell on that idea and the time when we have to face them.
To the king eagle, you had a lot of open shots in the first half which could have helped but you missed those including 2 free throws in one trip to the line. Lesser TV guesting and more time on the court please....
blue&green
Apr 15, 2008, 12:39 PM
like what?????......:confused:
wag mo na pansinin ;)
R@nd0m
Apr 15, 2008, 12:41 PM
^^^ hahaha! funny but true... yeah SBC won fair and square! Ekwe was just a giant in the middle
celtics
Apr 15, 2008, 04:02 PM
madumi maglaro ang san beda. daming nakakita.
Wala naman ako nakita. San Beda had a physical game last Sunday. Pumipito naman ang mga referees pag nakakita sila ng foul. Nawala ang inside game ng Ateneo. Their big men are tentative in their moves againts Ekwe inside the paint. Also, their outside shooting went sour in the 2nd half.
Except lang kay Baclao and Salamat who sometimes challenged the big men of San Beda.
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