San Beda vs. JRU, PCU and Baste RIVALRY

[abbot]

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It's not Ateneo nor La Salle nor Letran nor Benilde who are the rivals of Beda, as said by Bill Velasco and company, but JRU!*okay*

sila ang magkakalevel sa NCAA .

sa san sebastian, battle of recto! pwede rin.

PCU, dahil sila talaga ang unang nakalaban ng beda after 28 years of drought. ito nakalaban nila sa pagkachampionship after so many years.Nakilala at napansin rin ang beda sa NCAA, sa wakas.

[red_lazze]

SANBEDA not BEDA.... at wala ngang rivalry.. ano sense ng thread na toh?... (",

[Bigbie]

personally, interesting iyung san beda-jru rivalry. i also think may potential itong rivalry na ito considering the colorful personalities of both teams. also, jru now has an import of their own. maybe the ncaa should start promoting the san beda-jru rivalry in order to drum up interest in the ncaa. if i'm not mistaken the 2nd round game last year between these two teams rated highly on tv.

besides, it can be argued that jru for such a longtime has played spoiler to san beda during must win games for the lions. if i remember it correctly the one that really stands out is when the bombers became the first team that pinned a loss on the boybits victoria and ato morano led sbc team of 1991 (which demoralized san beda so much that mapua blew them out for the 2nd rd pennant, and in the process arranging a title series which the cardinals won on a last second benny cheng shot).

so i guess a jru-san beda rivalry will really be worthwhile.

[attyatlast]

personally, interesting iyung san beda-jru rivalry. i also think may potential itong rivalry na ito considering the colorful personalities of both teams. also, jru now has an import of their own. maybe the ncaa should start promoting the san beda-jru rivalry in order to drum up interest in the ncaa. if i'm not mistaken the 2nd round game last year between these two teams rated highly on tv.

besides, it can be argued that jru for such a longtime has played spoiler to san beda during must win games for the lions. if i remember it correctly the one that really stands out is when the bombers became the first team that pinned a loss on the boybits victoria and ato morano led sbc team of 1991 (which demoralized san beda so much that mapua blew them out for the 2nd rd pennant, and in the process arranging a title series which the cardinals won on a last second benny cheng shot).

so i guess a jru-san beda rivalry will really be worthwhile.

You remebered it incorrectly, Mapua lang ang nakatalo sa Red Lions during the time of boybits victoria..

[celtics]

personally, interesting iyung san beda-jru rivalry. i also think may potential itong rivalry na ito considering the colorful personalities of both teams. also, jru now has an import of their own. maybe the ncaa should start promoting the san beda-jru rivalry in order to drum up interest in the ncaa. if i'm not mistaken the 2nd round game last year between these two teams rated highly on tv.

besides, it can be argued that jru for such a longtime has played spoiler to san beda during must win games for the lions. if i remember it correctly the one that really stands out is when the bombers became the first team that pinned a loss on the boybits victoria and ato morano led sbc team of 1991 (which demoralized san beda so much that mapua blew them out for the 2nd rd pennant, and in the process arranging a title series which the cardinals won on a last second benny cheng shot).

so i guess a jru-san beda rivalry will really be worthwhile.

Mas intense ang JRC - SBC noong 1992. It was Thursday afternoon (September 1992), sayang there was no TV coverage back then. It is the 2nd game of the 2nd round of elimination and Jose Rizal's record in the 1st round was 1-4, while San Beda got the first round penant. 1st half shows San Beda led by double margin and we all thought that the Bombers will throw in the towel in the 2nd half.

We are wrong what we witnessed in the 2nd half was a neck to neck battle. Both teams refused to surrender majority of the starters was fouled out. Jose Rizal lost Richard Aquino (RP Youth), Anore, Enterina and San Beda lost Boybits Victoria, Manzano, Manucat. Regulation ended at 77 all (If my memory serves me right) that took 2 overtime before someone declared a winner. Jose Rizal won by a slim margin. That game dictated the course for both team in the 2nd round. JRC won 3 straight games beating SBC, SSC and Perpetual then bowed to Mapua and Letran. San Beda on the other hand suffered their back to back loss. Coaches from both squads are noteble players in their era San Beda's Orly Castelo and Jose Rizal's Egay Gomez of fabled YCO team.

Parang Celtics - Suns championship itong game na to noong mid-70's sa NBA. The game started at 5 PM and eded up past 8 in the evening. According to my uncle meron pang game in the 60's where San Beda defeated Ateneo, Letran, La Salle and Mapua in the eliminations and they are in shape to repeat their mastery over Jose Rizal in the 2nd round. Jose Rizal again played a spoiler by beating San Beda on Elias Tolentino's twinner at the buzzer and preventing the Red Lions to become an outcome champion. That was the Bombers only win in the season and according to my elders headline pa sa broadsheet "Jose Rizal upset San Beda".

If someone have a copy of that 2nd round NCAA elimination between the Red Lions and Heavy Bombers pa share naman. Kahit hindi taga San Beda or JRU sinasabing isa sa magandang laban. As for the rivalry puwede rin depende naman yan sa media and sports afficionados. Let's just wait and see on the developments if this will materialize.

[celtics]

Guys my apology, napahaba ang kwento ko. Halata nang matanda ako. Hehehe...:)

[celtics]

You remebered it incorrectly, Mapua lang ang nakatalo sa Red Lions during the time of boybits victoria..

I disagree. Bigbie was right and I still remember the game played at the Loyola gym.

[iyurts]

I disagree. Bigbie was right and I still remember the game played at the Loyola gym.
Only the Cardinal beat the RL that time, because I remember that everytime we face mapua pag panalo Red Cubs talo RL and pag panalo RL talo Red Cubs.

[Boy_Bastos]

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It's not Ateneo nor La Salle nor Letran nor Benilde


Mongoloid ba itong threadstarter?????
Talaga namang hindi naging kalaban ng mga tagabeda ang mga taga Taft dahil wala na sa NCAA ang Al Salle at ang Benilde naman ay muntik ng makapasok sa Finals pampito sila last year angat lang sila sa PCU (dahil suspended)
Nuon naman ay kami ang rival ng mga taga Taft.

Arriba Letran!!!

[chellotte8]

I don't think that there is rivalry between San Beda and JRU...

Pero lagi nagkakainitan ang laban kasi medyo marumi maglaro JRU... at least, nung nakaraang season.

[red_lazze]

pano basagulero players nila... pero ok lang saya **** ng game...

[Bigbie]

You remebered it incorrectly, Mapua lang ang nakatalo sa Red Lions during the time of boybits victoria..

no, san beda first lost to jru int the 2nd round then they lost their next game again against mapua. san beda had a total of 4 losses in 1991, 3 against mapua and 1 against jru, pero that jru loss was what broke the camel's back so to speak kasi in the last 5 games the lions played in that season (2 in the 2nd rd of eliminations and the 3 finals games, they only won once, this after having an 8 game winning streak)

[Bigbie]

Only the Cardinal beat the RL that time, because I remember that everytime we face mapua pag panalo Red Cubs talo RL and pag panalo RL talo Red Cubs.

no, the red lions lost first to the heavy bombers then to the cardinals in successive fashion during the 2nd round of eliminations for that season. you are right though that in the finals that whenever the cubs won the lions lost and vice versa. but it is not only mapua which beat san beda during that season and they were'nt even the first to do so, that honor belongs to jru.

[Bigbie]

I don't think that there is rivalry between San Beda and JRU...

Pero lagi nagkakainitan ang laban kasi medyo marumi maglaro JRU... at least, nung nakaraang season.

in a way the san beda-jru games are among the more anticipated, if not the most anticipated, games in the ncaa and we're not just talking students or alumni here but by ncaa outsiders also. i guess apart from the fact that only jru has the talent to match san beda (yes, jru's talent is better than letran's, the knights' advantage though is their experience and heart) it seems that the students and alumni of both schools like to get each other's goat such that the game atmosphere of a san beda-jru is also worth experiencing.

slowly but surely i think a rivalry is starting to emerge here between these two teams and i don't think that's a bad thing, in fact this rivalry may really help spark more added interest to the league again.

[Bigbie]

pano basagulero players nila... pero ok lang saya **** ng game...

jru supporters would rather look at it as having a never say die or ginebra or red bull attitude rather than being "basagulero". in all honesty, for all their so-called physical player no jru player actually got suspended last year. besides, its all part of their psywar strategy, its not as if one jru player actally threw a punch, deliberately injured, kicked or even retaliated against another player.

[Get_Blazed]

Mongoloid ba itong threadstarter?????
Talaga namang hindi naging kalaban ng mga tagabeda ang mga taga Taft dahil wala na sa NCAA ang Al Salle at ang Benilde naman ay muntik ng makapasok sa Finals pampito sila last year angat lang sila sa PCU (dahil suspended)
Nuon naman ay kami ang rival ng mga taga Taft.

Arriba Letran!!!

Bayaan mo na. HAha masaya kung Letran-Benilde match-up pare. Dream ko yun.*okay*

Pero kung rivalry lang din, it doesnt take finals match-ups to brew one. Hindi basis ng rivalries ang finals.

Dahil kung ganon, malapit na pala ang CSB at SSC-R, dahil 2000 CSB beat Stags for the Crown, sa 2001 natalo nila CSB sa final 4, tapos sa 2002 natalo naman nila CSB to win the Crown din.

But you cant bring Benilde down. Angat man kayo sa Basketball, durog naman kayo sa ibang sports programs ng Benilde. Over-all Champions, Baby.

ANIMO BENILDE!*okay*

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[iyurts]

I think sa NCAA ang rivalry ay seasonal lamang! Like right now Letran can consider as SBC rival, coz sila yun naglaban nun championship last year and sila pa din ang considered na contenders for the crown this year! maybe a few years from now mag iba na ang mag laban sa crown. for me *** consider na true rivalry the competion should not only come from sports but on academics and other aspects as well. Kung titingnan nyo yun ateneo-la salle rivalry they are really contesting on their school supremacy. Both of them claims that they are the best university in the country and the UAAP is just an arena for them to have a bragging right kahit sa isang game lang. Sa NCAA walang ganito talagang basketball lang!

[KnightofLetran]

^ yes, you're right. I don't agree to this Letran - San Beda thing. A majority of us are apathetic towards this. Media/Marketing are the ones making these gimmicks.

NCAA should not focus only on these two schools but to all those members of the league.Mas masaya pa.

[KnightofLetran]

in a way the san beda-jru games are among the more anticipated, if not the most anticipated, games in the ncaa and we're not just talking students or alumni here but by ncaa outsiders also. i guess apart from the fact that only jru has the talent to match san beda (yes, jru's talent is better than letran's, the knights' advantage though is their experience and heart) it seems that the students and alumni of both schools like to get each other's goat such that the game atmosphere of a san beda-jru is also worth experiencing.

slowly but surely i think a rivalry is starting to emerge here between these two teams and i don't think that's a bad thing, in fact this rivalry may really help spark more added interest to the league again.

Actually no one is considering the Knights to make it into the finals. We are in a rebuilding phase last year. sa tinging ko tsamba lang namin yun.:D

[Boy_Bastos]

Bayaan mo na. HAha masaya kung Letran-Benilde match-up pare. Dream ko yun.*okay* [/url]

mas masaya kami kung Benilde ang makakaharap sa finals. pagyan ang laban we are 80% sure na magchachampion kami kaya game 1 palang nakasampay na ang mga balloons namin. yakang yaka;)

di bale bow naman kami sa ibang events.*okay*

[asinine_fish]

I don't think that there is rivalry between San Beda and JRU...

Pero lagi nagkakainitan ang laban kasi medyo marumi maglaro JRU... at least, nung nakaraang season.


I think what the threadstarter:bop: meant was, San Beda- JRU rivalry dito sa PEX hehehehe:rotflmao: ...that make sense..~bleh:p

[celtics]

^ yes, you're right. I don't agree to this Letran - San Beda thing. A majority of us are apathetic towards this. Media/Marketing are the ones making these gimmicks.

NCAA should not focus only on these two schools but to all those members of the league.Mas masaya pa.

Correct!!!:)

[chellotte8]

jru supporters would rather look at it as having a never say die or ginebra or red bull attitude rather than being "basagulero". in all honesty, for all their so-called physical player no jru player actually got suspended last year. besides, its all part of their psywar strategy, its not as if one jru player actally threw a punch, deliberately injured, kicked or even retaliated against another player.

Actually meron, kasing merong match and San Beda and JRU, where JRU players are intentionally hitting/fouling RL hard enough, na nagkaroon ng tension sa court.. I think, si Ekwe pa ang nasuspend sa huli, samantalang nagrespond *** *** sa mga pinaggagagawa ng JRU sa kanila...
Kaya galit na galit ang mga Bedans kay Supan e...

[KnightofLetran]

^maybe you're referring to the kicking incident with the korean player of UPHR?

[Bomber Boy]

Mongoloid ba itong threadstarter?????
Talaga namang hindi naging kalaban ng mga tagabeda ang mga taga Taft dahil wala na sa NCAA ang Al Salle at ang Benilde naman ay muntik ng makapasok sa Finals pampito sila last year angat lang sila sa PCU (dahil suspended)
Nuon naman ay kami ang rival ng mga taga Taft.

Arriba Letran!!!

if i know bedista itong ugok na ito, nagkukunwari lang na taga letran. isang school lang ang mahilig makisiksik at magpapansin sa pilipinas at hindi letran iyun kungdi iyung BALUT factory sa may mendiola.

[Bomber Boy]

Only the Cardinal beat the RL that time, because I remember that everytime we face mapua pag panalo Red Cubs talo RL and pag panalo RL talo Red Cubs.

sus, may nag-mamarunong na naman na bedista dito. jru at mapua ang nakatalo sa beda balut nung 1991. unang tinalo ng jru san beda tapos naman mapua. nakapanood ka lang ng ncaa starting year 2000 kala mo expert ka na.

[Bomber Boy]

You remebered it incorrectly, Mapua lang ang nakatalo sa Red Lions during the time of boybits victoria..

isa ka pa. hindi ka naman pahiya niyan no? tinalo muna ng jru san beda bago naman sila ginawang pamunas sa sahig ng mapua.

[Bomber Boy]

Actually meron, kasing merong match and San Beda and JRU, where JRU players are intentionally hitting/fouling RL hard enough, na nagkaroon ng tension sa court.. I think, si Ekwe pa ang nasuspend sa huli, samantalang nagrespond *** *** sa mga pinaggagagawa ng JRU sa kanila...
Kaya galit na galit ang mga Bedans kay Supan e...

taga perpetual po ang tindyakan ni ekwe hindi taga jru. imbento ka na naman.

[chellotte8]

taga perpetual po ang tindyakan ni ekwe hindi taga jru. imbento ka na naman.

Ok. Basta ang point ko is marumi minsan maglaro ang mga taga-JRU..

[Rafiboy_05]

Ok. Basta ang point ko is marumi minsan maglaro ang mga taga-JRU..

agree ako dito. medyo madumi nga sila mag-laro... pero ang pinag-tataka ko lang, bakit nung kami ang kalaban nila hindi nila ginawa yung ginawa nila sa players ng San Beda nung 2nd round ellimination?

[chellotte8]

agree ako dito. medyo madumi nga sila mag-laro... pero ang pinag-tataka ko lang, bakit nung kami ang kalaban nila hindi nila ginawa yung ginawa nila sa players ng San Beda nung 2nd round ellimination?

Baka natatakot sila.

O kaya naman, iba ang strategy na ginamit nila sa inyo...

[red_lazze]

haha

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[Bomber Boy]

agree ako dito. medyo madumi nga sila mag-laro... pero ang pinag-tataka ko lang, bakit nung kami ang kalaban nila hindi nila ginawa yung ginawa nila sa players ng San Beda nung 2nd round ellimination?

kayo kaya ang madumi maglaro ah, lalo na si dangcal at melegrito. besides, kami sa game lang eh pati nag iyung fans inakyat pa nina reposar at quinday eh.

malaki ang pinagkaiba ng physical magalaro at madumi maglaro.

huwag masyadong magmalinis kung kayo ang tunay na marungis.

[bulon1122]

hindi kami malinis....PERO IKAW SOBRANG DUMI TALAGA...kahit maligo kanang CLOROX...WALA PARING EFFECT!!!!SUROT!!!!!HOPIA!!!!!

[Bomber Boy]

hindi kami malinis....PERO IKAW SOBRANG DUMI TALAGA...kahit maligo kanang CLOROX...WALA PARING EFFECT!!!!SUROT!!!!!HOPIA!!!!!

ba't ang baho ng bibig mo bulon1122? aha! kumain ka ng t a e ano?

BEDA Baluuuuuut mga utak itlog at mahilig pang humawak ng itlog ahahahahay

[woot99]

^^ hindi ka nga taga UP. tsk. isusuka ka ng UP sa ugali mo.

[bulon1122]

KASI MABAHO DIN ANG BIBIG MO!!!Bakit di ikaw kumain ng tae...napipikon kana? Kung taga UP ka...dapat your better than this...come on bomber boy...isa lang naman ang gusto ko para tumigil din ako...TUMIGIL KARIN!!!OK...SOBRA KANA KASI EH...

[Bomber Boy]

^^ hindi ka nga taga UP. tsk. isusuka ka ng UP sa ugali mo.

ikaw ang hindi taga UP kamo. taga SAN BEDA ka lang tsong.

[woot99]

and so? ano naman kung hindi ako taga UP??? and hindi ako taga san beda, tga BENILDE ako. at wag mong ma "lang" ang san beda dahil ikumpara mo man yan sa pinag pasukan mo ng high school which is JRU, e walangwala yan sa high school program ng san beda.

[Bomber Boy]

and so? ano naman kung hindi ako taga UP??? and hindi ako taga san beda, tga BENILDE ako. at wag mong ma "lang" ang san beda dahil ikumpara mo man yan sa pinag pasukan mo ng high school which is JRU, e walangwala yan sa high school program ng san beda.

ows, sa anong paraan? social climbing? oo naman, champion BEDA Baluuuut don eh.

[bulon1122]

tignan mo bomber boy...ang daming ayaw sa iyo...KAYA TUMIGIL KANA...OR SIGURO NAGEENJOY KA DAHIL MARAMI KANG KAAWAY...ganyan ang surot..nageenjoy kapag nakakagawa nang masamang bagay...haay naku...surot talaga ang batang ito...

[Bomber Boy]

tignan mo bomber boy...ang daming ayaw sa iyo...KAYA TUMIGIL KANA...OR SIGURO NAGEENJOY KA DAHIL MARAMI KANG KAAWAY...ganyan ang surot..nageenjoy kapag nakakagawa nang masamang bagay...haay naku...surot talaga ang batang ito...

BEDA Baluuuut

papaano maraming tinamaan. inggit lang kayo dahil ang isang galing ng JRU high school na kung hamakin na lang ng isang feelinger na elite na school sa Mendiola eh nakapagtapos pala sa UP, samantalang silang mga naninira ay napilitang tanggapin ang sweet lemon nila na BEDA Baluuuut. ganyan naman kayong mga taga BEDA Baluuuut eh, ang lalakas mang-asar pero pag binalikan kung ano-ano na lang pang iimbento ang ginagawa.

[bulon1122]

inggit? bakit naman ako maiingit sa iyo...im from san beda and have 5 business here and abroad...taga JRU na naging UP...good for you but we don't care...kung ganyan naman na maraming galit sa akin...huwag na lang...!!! I have friends from UP pero hindi sila katulad mong surot...actually my sister is a graduate from UP LAW...ang layo ng ugali compared sa iyo hopia!!!SOBRA!!! Parang hindi ka nangaling sa UP...baka University of Pateros ka nagraduate...so in short..ikaw ang BALUUUUTTTT!!!SUROT!

[red_lazze]

EI HOPIA boi.... haha yoko sana awayen skul mong jru pero pag ganyan ang student nila ayus lang... haha

ANIMO SANBEDA!!!
BACK TO BACK NCAA CHAMPIONS!!!

FOR SANBEDA, OUR COUNTRY AND GOD!!!

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[dris]

di naman ka-level ng san beda ang jru o san sebastian. no freakin way.I don't agree with the TS.

pwede pa sa ateneo, la salle , letran o benilde.

[Bomber Boy]

di naman ka-level ng san beda ang jru o san sebastian. no freakin way.I don't agree with the TS.

pwede pa sa ateneo, la salle , letran o benilde.

hahahahaha social climber talaga. alam mo ba kung ano ang tawag ng mga taga ateneo at la salle sa mga taga beda? jologs. hahahahaha

BEDA Baluuuuuuut

[chellotte8]

hahahahaha social climber talaga. alam mo ba kung ano ang tawag ng mga taga ateneo at la salle sa mga taga beda? jologs. hahahahaha

BEDA Baluuuuuuut


Those who call us social climbers are THE real social climbers...

And, for the record, there is no reason for us to social climb...

[celtics]

hahahahaha social climber talaga. alam mo ba kung ano ang tawag ng mga taga ateneo at la salle sa mga taga beda? jologs. hahahahaha

BEDA Baluuuuuuut

Dude, curious lang ako I also came from Jose Rizal. In fact pang 3rd generation ako sa family who graduated from that school and my kids are currently studying there. I am quite bothered how you handle and carry the fight againts San Beda pexers. Ika nga eh out of line na. I disagree na social climber and mayabang ang students ng San Beda, in fact this is not the proper thread to discuss those things. Please be specific, there are also people from SBC na matitino. I could set an example siguro my cousins, friends and colleagues na alumni ng SBC and even my cousin who played for the Red Cubs.

Here in the forum hindi ako sasagot kung wala rin naman akong mapapala. The reason why we are here is to learn something from different schools, discuss and share some ideas and to know history of every schools (in terms of NCAA competition). Not bashing or give extra meaning that could trigger some nasty comments between you and other schools (in this case it's San Beda).

Kapag kami inaalaska ng "Hopia" we didn't mind at all. I know there are some incident na nag re-react ang mga students, fans and alumni's during the game. Part na iyan ng culture ng NCAA and even sa ibang school meron din pang asar. It is normal to react but....dito sa forum it's something else. I admire your loyalty but sadly some of your post didn't help our alma mater. Do we really need to show off what we have? I mean, we can said what the school accomplished...but we must choose carefully the words we will be using. Baka maka-offend ka. Hindi mahalaga kung saan ka nag aral, ang importante meron kang natutunan mabuti na maari mong gamitin para sa iyong kinabukasan at ibahagi sa susunod na henerasyon.

Baka sabihin mo wala akong kwentang Rizalian. I am not taking sides here, I'm just voicing out my opinion and disagree to some of your tactics. As I've mentioned I admire your loyalty pero gamitin mo naman sa tamang lugar ang lahat. If you really have something againts San Beda or any schools, mag create ka na lang ng Blog and you can talk about school accomplishment, facilities, etc.

Bottom line I just want to tell everybody that there are also pexers, students and alumni's from JRU that are different from Bomber Boy.

Peace...*okay*

[woot99]

^^ very well said sir. "Bottom line I just want to tell everybody that there are also pexers, students and alumni's from JRU that are different from Bomber Boy." -- yes we know sir, eto lang talaga si bomber boy ang may problema.

[iyurts]

I agree with celtics. We should be carefull of what we are going to say because it doesn't only reflect on our personality but to our alma matter as well. The problem with bomberboy he attacks other schools like he's a proud Rizalian, but when you attack him back he hides and claims he is from UP. This not good for your Beloved Alma matter.

[Unknown21]

Paano na lang ang reputasyong nga mga tiga San Beda dito sa pex? :confused:

[bluerdanblue]

Reputation in this forum, as we see it, depends on how much you want to believe as real but majority of these are really concocted lies from bloggers who may just be wasting time. You have to be really critical and skeptical with most of the things you read...take it with a grain of salt.;)

[attyatlast]

BEDA Baluuuut

papaano maraming tinamaan. inggit lang kayo dahil ang isang galing ng JRU high school na kung hamakin na lang ng isang feelinger na elite na school sa Mendiola eh nakapagtapos pala sa UP, samantalang silang mga naninira ay napilitang tanggapin ang sweet lemon nila na BEDA Baluuuut. ganyan naman kayong mga taga BEDA Baluuuut eh, ang lalakas mang-asar pero pag binalikan kung ano-ano na lang pang iimbento ang ginagawa.

bakit ka sa UP nag college.....wala bang kwenta ang college sa JRU???Just asking....

[Bomber Boy]

bakit ka sa UP nag college.....wala bang kwenta ang college sa JRU???Just asking....

maganda naman po ang college sa jru, kaya ako nag UP dahil nakakuha ako ng scholarship. kung sa jru ako nag college magbabayad pa ng tuition ang mga magulang ko, kaya sa up na lang ako pumasok.

[asinine_fish]

^..so it means that JRU doesn't want to give you a scholarship? and UP does...just asking because I just don't get it..tsk..it doesnt fit your argument..

so the real rivalry is San Beda vs JRU sa PEX and not NCAA...

[Bomber Boy]

^..so it means that JRU doesn't want to give you a scholarship? and UP does...just asking because I just don't get it..tsk..it doesnt fit your argument..

so the real rivalry is San Beda vs JRU sa PEX and not NCAA...

wow, if this is how beda students think then its no surprise to me that their philosophy course is being phased out. next trick question please.

[RedLion2001]

Parang hindi ata nasagot yung question a... :D

[red_lazze]

99% agree with celtics... kung titigil lang c bomberboi ok na e... ang naapektuhan kc ang school na jru... sorry sa mga jru students na nandto na my sense ang sinasabe pati kayo nadadamay...


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ANIMO SANBEDA!!!

[Bomber Boy]

Dude, curious lang ako I also came from Jose Rizal. In fact pang 3rd generation ako sa family who graduated from that school and my kids are currently studying there. I am quite bothered how you handle and carry the fight againts San Beda pexers. Ika nga eh out of line na. I disagree na social climber and mayabang ang students ng San Beda, in fact this is not the proper thread to discuss those things. Please be specific, there are also people from SBC na matitino. I could set an example siguro my cousins, friends and colleagues na alumni ng SBC and even my cousin who played for the Red Cubs.

Here in the forum hindi ako sasagot kung wala rin naman akong mapapala. The reason why we are here is to learn something from different schools, discuss and share some ideas and to know history of every schools (in terms of NCAA competition). Not bashing or give extra meaning that could trigger some nasty comments between you and other schools (in this case it's San Beda).

Kapag kami inaalaska ng "Hopia" we didn't mind at all. I know there are some incident na nag re-react ang mga students, fans and alumni's during the game. Part na iyan ng culture ng NCAA and even sa ibang school meron din pang asar. It is normal to react but....dito sa forum it's something else. I admire your loyalty but sadly some of your post didn't help our alma mater. Do we really need to show off what we have? I mean, we can said what the school accomplished...but we must choose carefully the words we will be using. Baka maka-offend ka. Hindi mahalaga kung saan ka nag aral, ang importante meron kang natutunan mabuti na maari mong gamitin para sa iyong kinabukasan at ibahagi sa susunod na henerasyon.

Baka sabihin mo wala akong kwentang Rizalian. I am not taking sides here, I'm just voicing out my opinion and disagree to some of your tactics. As I've mentioned I admire your loyalty pero gamitin mo naman sa tamang lugar ang lahat. If you really have something againts San Beda or any schools, mag create ka na lang ng Blog and you can talk about school accomplishment, facilities, etc.

Bottom line I just want to tell everybody that there are also pexers, students and alumni's from JRU that are different from Bomber Boy.

Peace...*okay*

i respect your opinion celtics, but allow me to say that i am simply just reciprocating what bedans are doing not only to jru pexers but to other pexers as well, mapa ncaa man or uaap thread. if there's one thing i can't stand is iyung mga mahihilig magbuhat ng sariling bangko, mang-alaska ng walang rason at mga doble kara. and since palaging ginagawa ito ng mga taga beda eh dinadaan ko na lang sila sa reverse psychology, alaskahin nila ako aalaskahin ko sila, pagtawanan nila eskuwelahan ko pagtatawanan ko din eskwekahan nila, personalin nila ako pepersonalin ko din sila. ang sa akin lang eh pwede namang mag-respetuhan ng maayos dito sa pex eh kaso lang ang gusto nila eh aalaskahin ka nila pero hindi mo sila puwede balikan. doble kara nga kasi. di lang naman ako ang nakakapansin niyan eh, ang dami dami kayang pexers dito, punta ka sa uaap thread, ang dami kayang inis din sa san beda dun palibhasa mga hindi marurunong lumugar at magbigay respeto.

peace!

[bulon1122]

bomber boy medyo umayos kana sa mga sagot mo ha...pero yung sinabi mo...parang tinutukoy mo ay ang sarili mo...pero ganyan ang pagpex dito...hindi yung nangugulo ka lang...kung ganyan naman lagi eh...edi ok...kung may ayaw ka sa mga bedans...sabihin mo...pero in a nice way...huwag yung bashing...

kung inis ka sa mga bedans...just keep it within yourself...kasi nagiging negative kana...kahit kami inis kami sa mga rival namin pero we respect them...WE DONT BASH THEM...!!!

Tignan mo si celtic...taga JRU siya , but we praise him because we respect us, he shows manners, and he shows humility...

So if you like respect even though kalaban namin kayo at inis kami sa iyo...respetuhin mo din institution namin...marunong ka dapat lumugar at magbigay respeto...iyan ang sabi mo...yan sana ang gawin mo!

peace!

[celtics]

i respect your opinion celtics, but allow me to say that i am simply just reciprocating what bedans are doing not only to jru pexers but to other pexers as well, mapa ncaa man or uaap thread. if there's one thing i can't stand is iyung mga mahihilig magbuhat ng sariling bangko, mang-alaska ng walang rason at mga doble kara. and since palaging ginagawa ito ng mga taga beda eh dinadaan ko na lang sila sa reverse psychology, alaskahin nila ako aalaskahin ko sila, pagtawanan nila eskuwelahan ko pagtatawanan ko din eskwekahan nila, personalin nila ako pepersonalin ko din sila. ang sa akin lang eh pwede namang mag-respetuhan ng maayos dito sa pex eh kaso lang ang gusto nila eh aalaskahin ka nila pero hindi mo sila puwede balikan. doble kara nga kasi. di lang naman ako ang nakakapansin niyan eh, ang dami dami kayang pexers dito, punta ka sa uaap thread, ang dami kayang inis din sa san beda dun palibhasa mga hindi marurunong lumugar at magbigay respeto.

peace!

Well said... I agree there are some pexers from San Beda na makukulit. I know you can answer their post na tatamaan sila at hindi apektado ang SBC community. Sagutin mo lang nang walang halong pang aasar mas mahihiya ang pexers sa iyo. Dahil hindi ma so-solved na aalaskahin mo, maybe if you can personally attacked the pexer(s) and not the whole school community as I've said. Look who's been affected? Kung ganyan ang paniwala mo eh marami kang makakaaway dito sa forum.

I think you know what you are doing. Thank you for taking a time reading my opinion.

Peace*okay*

[attyatlast]

maganda naman po ang college sa jru, kaya ako nag UP dahil nakakuha ako ng scholarship. kung sa jru ako nag college magbabayad pa ng tuition ang mga magulang ko, kaya sa up na lang ako pumasok.

Follow up question sir.

What if both UP and JRU offered you a scholarship....what school would you choose between the 2???

[Bomber Boy]

Follow up question sir.

What if both UP and JRU offered you a scholarship....what school would you choose between the 2???

depends on what the terms of the scholarship are and what the maintaining grades are.

fyi, another reason why i also went for up is kasi sa up nag-dorm ako dahil malayo sa bahay namin sa may barangka. gusto ko kasing subukan iyung living on my own during college.

[red_lazze]

yan dba ok pag maayus naguusap bomberboi... hayaan mo na yung ibang bedans na nangaasar dto ganun **** e.. wag mo nlng patulan... UP ka paman den... kaya pag ok na mag sinasabi mo for sure wala ka ng kaasaran dto na bedans or other schools...

PEACE!

ANIMO SANBEDA!!!

FOR SANBEDA, OUR COUNTRY AND GOD!

[attyatlast]

depends on what the terms of the scholarship are and what the maintaining grades are.

fyi, another reason why i also went for up is kasi sa up nag-dorm ako dahil malayo sa bahay namin sa may barangka. gusto ko kasing subukan iyung living on my own during college.

Padre taga Mandaluyong din ako....Sa bumatay lang ako nakatira...Kabayan pala kita....I hope my being a bedan would not be a hindrance to our healthy and rational discussion/debate on our respective teams....

[azul_81]

At sana naman itigil na rin yung babanat sa isang ncaa school tapos babawi ng " i took my college in this [UP/Ateneo/DLSU/UST ] thing". Ang baduy diba ? It only shows 2 things. Either, hindi mo kayang depensahan ang pinaglalaban mong institution or kelangan mong hilahin/idawit/magtago at gumamit ng ibang schools na hindi kasama sa NCAA para maiba ang argumento o usapin dito sa hiblang ito.

I'm not taking sides pero ang daming ganyan dito. I took my college degree in one of the Big 3 too pero hindi ko sinama yan sa kahit anong argumento. Pang bakla eh.

Bomberboy, hindi lang para sayo ang post ko kundi para sa atin lahat dito sa ganung istilo. Atin dahil kasama din ako.

Peace to you and ARRIBA to all of us.

[Hatch Roundhead]

I Agree azul81.

[red_lazze]

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[Ascor_archer]

Ka-level naman talaga ng beda ang schools like jru or baste o pcu.
Don't deny.pa-sosyal pa daw kasi.:lol:

sinabi pa pala ni bill velasco, an atenean.

[iyurts]

Bill Velasco is a sports reporter! ***** Basketball pwede pa ka level!!! Pero sa History, Traditions, Academics, Achievements, Alumni etc.. Di *****!!!

[RougePercer]

Wag na po mag-away ang mga sister schools *okay*

[chellotte8]

^ Who is social climbing anyway?! Definitely not the Bedans...

Ikaw ang totoong social climber

[Get_Blazed]

If the situation in here was not bad enough, kelangan pang me mga sumawsaw na mga bugok from the other side..:hmm:

Wag na patulan mga trolls, pls. Be it from this forum or from the UAAP.

http://ncaaphil.multiply.com/

[red_lazze]

lasalista ka ba o feeling lang??? aminin mo... hehehehe

see this

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ANIMO SANBEDA!!!

[Get_Blazed]

lasalista ka ba o feeling lang??? aminin mo... hehehehe

see this

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ANIMO SANBEDA!!!

Sinong La Sallista??:hmm:

ANIMO BENILDE!*okay*

http://ncaaphil.multiply.com/

[DominoCultura]

BEDista.. uh uh uh.. ANIMO! lol.

[chellotte8]

BEDista.. uh uh uh.. ANIMO! lol.


ANIMO San Beda!

GO San Beda Fight!

[DominoCultura]

ANIMO San Beda!

GO San Beda Fight!


Yeah.

Go SAM beda - where all the school cheers originated. :bop:

[red_lazze]

hahaha

oo nalang kami sayu kahit ano sabihin mo...

hahaha

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[chellotte8]

Yeah.

Go SAM beda - where all the school cheers originated. :bop:

What's your point then?!

[King_neroj]

Ang alam kong Rivalry

Baste VS San Beda noon
Letran, San Beda

PCU vs Letran (2004 tinalo ng PCU and LC sa game 2 ng Semis, 2005 talo ng LC ang PCU sa Game 3 ng Finals, 2006 Talo ng PCU ang LC sa Semis) astig lang tignan kasi ni hindi man lang nag sshake hands ang mga players before and after the game..

JRU ?

[Bedinger]

san beda
versus
jru
now that's a rivalry
a match made in heaven

[sargeantgreen]

san beda vs. jose rizal?
no such thing. dream on.

[Bedinger]

san beda vs. jose rizal?
no such thing. dream on.

you don't want jru
for a rival?
still
can't get over
ateneo
huh?
dream on

[sargeantgreen]

you don't want jru
for a rival?
still
can't get over
ateneo
huh?
dream on

ooops sorry! la sallista ako eh! i can vouch for ateneo, san beda, la salle, and letran having rivalries as history would show. accept the facts or should i take you to the 1920's onwards?

[kentski]

BEDista.. uh uh uh.. ANIMO! lol.

eh ang GANDA MO PALA EH! :rotflmao:

[NYHC]

you don't want jru
for a rival?
still
can't get over
ateneo
huh?
dream on

kahit sino makalaban sa finals susuportahan namin. d na mahalaga kung sino man yan.
tyaka pangit *** rivalry
nagiging utak talangka lang *** iba, sumosobra.. minsan napupunta pa sa away dahil sa salitang yan kasi gusto nila may mas mataas ang ihi nila at hilahan nag hilahan sa baba lang *** nangyayari at siraan.

[Bedinger]

ooops sorry! la sallista ako eh! i can vouch for ateneo, san beda, la salle, and letran having rivalries as history would show. accept the facts or should i take you to the 1920's onwards?

former rivalries
yes
and it wasn't a round robin rivalry
among the four
it was ateneo vs san beda
and letran-la salle
but that's a thing of the past now
la salle has now claimed ateneo as their rival
while san beda and letran don't have one to speak of
but hey
a jru-san beda rivalry
has the makings of something big
as i said
a match made in heaven
both schools deserve each other

[simonsmug]

former rivalries
yes
and it wasn't a round robin rivalry
among the four
it was ateneo vs san beda
and letran-la salle
but that's a thing of the past now
la salle has now claimed ateneo as their rival
while san beda and letran don't have one to speak of
but hey
a jru-san beda rivalry
has the makings of something big
as i said
a match made in heaven
both schools deserve each other

Spoken loke a true armchair critic: wrong, wrong, wrong.

What a nitpicker..... putting down San Beda any which way you can...

Not even a semblance of sensibility. Therefore, no credibility, crystal clear..

I get a lot of gas seeing your posts. There are two ways to deal with it:

Dighay ("URRRRRp!!!)
or
"Diglow" (bFWOT!!)

If this is the response you get, you deserve it.

Well, you're being schooled now....

Ahihihihi....

:love: :love: :love:

[Bedinger]

Spoken loke a true armchair critic: wrong, wrong, wrong.

What a nitpicker..... putting down San Beda any which way you can...

Not even a semblance of sensibility. Therefore, no credibility, crystal clear..

I get a lot of gas seeing your posts. There are two ways to deal with it:

Dighay ("URRRRRp!!!)
or
"Diglow" (bFWOT!!)

If this is the response you get, you deserve it.

Well, you're being schooled now....

Ahihihihi....

:love: :love: :love:

in what way
am i putting down san beda
by saying it has a rivalry
with jru
hmmmmmmm

[asinine_fish]

The true rivalry and no other was Ateneo-Lasalle, ever since their NCAA years..and the other was Mapua-JRU in juniors and Mapua-Letran in Seniors....whether you like it or not..that's what it is...sa PEX it's San Beda-JRU admit it !!!!

[asinine_fish]

^^^ I am basically referring to the 60's and 70's....History is what it counts....no more rivalries after that..rambulan na !! at dito pa sa PEX hehehehe..

[simonsmug]

in what way
am i putting down san beda
by saying it has a rivalry
with jru
hmmmmmmm


A serious question merits a serious answer.

JRU at this time is a worthy and legitimate opponent.
Just like PCU before and, on a perennial basis, Letran.

Under no circumstance is that a rivalry.

JRU as our rival? There is no historical basis at all for that.

Do not be a revisionist.

Your motives are suspect.

[Bedinger]

A serious question merits a serious answer.

JRU at this time is a worthy and legitimate opponent.
Just like PCU before and, on a perennial basis, Letran.

Under no circumstance is that a rivalry.

JRU as our rival? There is no historical basis at all for that.

Do not be a revisionist.

Your motives are suspect.

see
you continue to cling on
to history
sad to say
your rivalry of the past
is just that
a thing of the past
your new rival now is jru
allow me to inform you
that a lot of people
actually enjoy watching you guys mix it up
finesse run and gun red lions
versus
physical grind it out heavy bombers
you can't ask for a better contrast than that
and that's what makes it a rivalry

[MonL]

The true rivalry and no other was Ateneo-Lasalle, ever since their NCAA years..and the other was Mapua-JRU in juniors and Mapua-Letran in Seniors....whether you like it or not..that's what it is...sa PEX it's San Beda-JRU admit it !!!!

^^^ I am basically referring to the 60's and 70's....History is what it counts....no more rivalries after that..rambulan na !! at dito pa sa PEX hehehehe..

San Beda vs. Ateneo.

The basketball rivalry goes way WAY back, up to the time of the founding of the NCAA, and it was so convenient of you to ignore this and focus on the 60s-70s period. You'd see who the original and true rivals were. Even within the 70s period which you focused on to stress your argument.

It came to the point where each rival would spoil the other's bid for basketball history, be it an attempt at an undefeated season or to set a record for most consecutive championships (the pre-war record was three consecutive; the postwar record was two straight until San Sebastian broke it with an all-time high five straight in the Adducul era).

Check your history.

[MonL]

see
you continue to cling on
to history
sad to say
your rivalry of the past
is just that
a thing of the past
your new rival now is jru
allow me to inform you
that a lot of people
actually enjoy watching you guys mix it up
finesse run and gun red lions
versus
physical grind it out heavy bombers
you can't ask for a better contrast than that
and that's what makes it a rivalry

The only guys who downplay history are those with no historical milestones to speak of. No one can ever take that historical aspect away, nor downplay it, if he was a true student of the game.

As far as people enjoying to watch contrasting styles, that's just a good basketball game. No more, no less. We can get the same contrast playing with Letran. Don't make it anything more than it actually is. It takes more than that to make a rivalry. Check my previous reply with a_fish.

As what one poster had pointed out, your motives are suspect.

[Bedinger]

The only guys who downplay history are those with no historical milestones to speak of. No one can ever take that historical aspect away, nor downplay it, if he was a true student of the game.

As far as people enjoying to watch contrasting styles, that's just a good basketball game. No more, no less. We can get the same contrast playing with Letran. Don't make it anything more than it actually is. It takes more than that to make a rivalry. Check my previous reply with a_fish.

As what one poster had pointed out, your motives are suspect.

san beda vs jru
is no ordinary basketball game
its a true rivalry
and a good one at that
not as good as
ateneo-la salle though

[green meanie]

San Beda vs. Ateneo.

The basketball rivalry goes way WAY back, up to the time of the founding of the NCAA, and it was so convenient of you to ignore this and focus on the 60s-70s period. You'd see who the original and true rivals were. Even within the 70s period which you focused on to stress your argument.

It came to the point where each rival would spoil the other's bid for basketball history, be it an attempt at an undefeated season or to set a record for most consecutive championships (the pre-war record was three consecutive; the postwar record was two straight until San Sebastian broke it with an all-time high five straight in the Adducul era).

Check your history.

what's the point of bringing up the history of your so called rivalry with ateneo when the reality is this has long been over? in tekkie speak it has long been obselete already.

stop living in the past and just face the future.

no need to insist on long dead rivalries.

[red_beret]

The reason MonL referred to the previous rivalry is to define what makes a rivalry. The San Beda-Ateneo Rivalry may be a thing of the past but it occurred at a time when this country was a respectable nation both in terms of economic growth and in basketball. We don’t want to get in the way of the existing rivalry of today but then you cannot brush aside a rivalry that defined the golden eras of Philippine Basketball.

That rivalry (San Beda-Ateneo) covered the period of the 30’s(except during 1939 wherein La Salle dethroned Ateneo, However. the La Salle cage team was disbarred for fielding an ineligible player the following year (although the title would not become Ateneo's until 1941, two years after the defeat), 40’s (except for disruption due to World Wars), 50’s, 60’s and 70’s, and if you read your sports history those were the times when the Philippines was the force to reckon with not only in Asian Basketball but in the world. So we can say that at that time the Filipinos were world class basketball players gaining respectability in this sports and not a mere participant of Asian Basketball whose best could only come out with a dismal 9th place in Asia and an even more disappointing 2nd place at South East Asia. In reliving that rivalry the oldies are not only reliving school pride but a point in time when Filipinos can proudly claim Asia as their territorial domain in basketball.

There was a rivalry then between San Beda and Ateneo because these were the dominant teams then and their rivalry consisted in meeting each other at the finals and disappointing each other’s bid for basketball supremacy. In contrast to that, JRU is a team that San Beda has not met in the finals. As good as JRU is it still has to prove that it is a threat to San Beda’s Red Lions reign at the NCAA. San Sebastian dominated the NCAA and San Beda tried to challenge them twice but in both instances the Stags were the dominant team so we can say that at the time the RL did not step up to the platform to be considered as the Stags rival. In the case of PCU, Letran although the RL met each once before it is not sufficient to spark a rivalry.

San Beda’s Red Lions is the most dominant team today in NCAA basketball. The San Beda Red Lions has no rival and let us leave it at that.

[pgma]

San Beda’s Red Lions is the most dominant team today in NCAA basketball. The San Beda Red Lions has no rival and let us leave it at that.[/B]


i wonder why other teams are very eager to be "branded" as SBC rival... wanna have a free ride popularity huh?

[green meanie]

The reason MonL referred to the previous rivalry is to define what makes a rivalry. The San Beda-Ateneo Rivalry may be a thing of the past but it occurred at a time when this country was a respectable nation both in terms of economic growth and in basketball. We don’t want to get in the way of the existing rivalry of today but then you cannot brush aside a rivalry that defined the golden eras of Philippine Basketball.

That rivalry (San Beda-Ateneo) covered the period of the 30’s(except during 1939 wherein La Salle dethroned Ateneo, However. the La Salle cage team was disbarred for fielding an ineligible player the following year (although the title would not become Ateneo's until 1941, two years after the defeat), 40’s (except for disruption due to World Wars), 50’s, 60’s and 70’s, and if you read your sports history those were the times when the Philippines was the force to reckon with not only in Asian Basketball but in the world. So we can say that at that time the Filipinos were world class basketball players gaining respectability in this sports and not a mere participant of Asian Basketball whose best could only come out with a dismal 9th place in Asia and an even more disappointing 2nd place at South East Asia. In reliving that rivalry the oldies are not only reliving school pride but a point in time when Filipinos can proudly claim Asia as their territorial domain in basketball.

There was a rivalry then between San Beda and Ateneo because these were the dominant teams then and their rivalry consisted in meeting each other at the finals and disappointing each other’s bid for basketball supremacy. In contrast to that, JRU is a team that San Beda has not met in the finals. As good as JRU is it still has to prove that it is a threat to San Beda’s Red Lions reign at the NCAA. San Sebastian dominated the NCAA and San Beda tried to challenge them twice but in both instances the Stags were the dominant team so we can say that at the time the RL did not step up to the platform to be considered as the Stags rival. In the case of PCU, Letran although the RL met each once before it is not sufficient to spark a rivalry.

San Beda’s Red Lions is the most dominant team today in NCAA basketball. The San Beda Red Lions has no rival and let us leave it at that.

in the end, the long and short of your dissertation is that this ancient rivalry has long been buried. what's important are those rivalries which withstood the test of time, foremost of which is the Ateneo-La Salle rivalry, the one and only relevant rivalry in our country.

Rivalries that have long fallen by the wayside need not be mentioned anymore.

Lastly, how ironic for you guys to proudly proclaim that you have no rival in the NCAA yet you show to everyone your fetish with your long dead rivalry with the Ateneo.

[red_beret]

in the end, the long and short of your dissertation is that this ancient rivalry has long been buried. what's important are those rivalries which withstood the test of time, foremost of which is the Ateneo-La Salle rivalry, the one and only relevant rivalry in our country.

Rivalries that have long fallen by the wayside need not be mentioned anymore.

Lastly, how ironic for you guys to proudly proclaim that you have no rival in the NCAA yet you show to everyone your fetish with your long dead rivalry with the Ateneo.

Does it sound like a dissertation?

Then let us keep it simple for you to comprehend. Understand.

There was reference to the San Beda- Ateneo rivalry because it covered 5 decades of excellent basketball of the golden era. So that was a rivalry to mention in order to define what a rivalry means, which takes more than one meeting at the finals.

Can you follow?

And no we don't have that fetish in the same manner that someone else keeps mentioning a rivalry which to that creatures circumscribed sports intellect is the only rivalry worth mentioning.

[green meanie]

Does it sound like a dissertation?

Then let us keep it simple for you to comprehend. Understand.

There was reference to the San Beda- Ateneo rivalry because it covered 5 decades of excellent basketball of the golden era. So that was a rivalry to mention in order to define what a rivalry means, which takes more than one meeting at the finals.

Can you follow?

no, simply because there is no such thing as a rivalry when it is no longer in existence. what you have is the past, that's all.

what's a rivalry when it is no longer in existence? nothing.

And no we don't have that fetish in the same manner that someone else keeps mentioning a rivalry which to that creatures curcumscribed sports intellect is the only rivalry worth mentioning.

really? so why make a big deal out of the ateneo then? is it because you want to be mentioned in the same sentence as them hoping that both schools will be associated with each other? just a question.

besides, what's wrong with developing a rivalry with another ncaa team? fyi, frequent meetings and "school tensions" are major contributors to developing rivalries. in the long run having a rivalry that it can sell will do the ncaa good. don't tell me san beda doesn't want to be part of that?

[MonL]

san beda vs jru
is no ordinary basketball game
its a true rivalry
and a good one at that
not as good as
ateneo-la salle though

To the unintiated, the wannnabes and to those who insist with malice, it is.

The learned know otherwise.

[ampog]

^^I think he's refering to the present NCAA, not the ancient rivalry that you said

[Bedinger]

i wonder why other teams are very eager to be "branded" as SBC rival... wanna have a free ride popularity huh?

why don't you
bedans
ask this question
to yourselves?
why does san beda
want to have a rivalry
with the ateneo
and not with another ncaa school?
last time i checked
you guys were in the ncaa
not in the best collegiate league in the land
which is the uaap

[green meanie]

To the unintiated, the wannnabes and to those who insist with malice, it is.

The learned know otherwise.

Why? Is there something wrong with San Beda and JRU having a rivalry?

[MonL]

what's the point of bringing up the history of your so called rivalry with ateneo when the reality is this has long been over? in tekkie speak it has long been obselete already.

stop living in the past and just face the future.

no need to insist on long dead rivalries.


What's the point? To point out its reality as a matter of record. That the ignorant may be enlightened. That the past truths may pave the way for the present's realities and the future's goals. Otherwise, to insist on its denial is to perpetuate a lie.

In tech speak, garbage in, garbage out.

[MonL]

Why? Is there something wrong with San Beda and JRU having a rivalry?

Pay your dues first. Problem is, you want to be in without paying admission first.

[green meanie]

What's the point? To point out its reality as a matter of record. That the ignorant may be enlightened. That the past truths may pave the way for the present's realities and the future's goals. Otherwise, to insist on its denial is to perpetuate a lie.

In tech speak, garbage in, garbage out.

I think no one questions that it happened (although that was a long, long time ago), what's being questioned is why bedans keep bringing it up.

boy, you guys seem to miss the ateneo a lot.

[Bedinger]

To the unintiated, the wannnabes and to those who insist with malice, it is.

The learned know otherwise.

just like smoking
denial is one hard habit
to break

[MonL]

just like smoking
denial is one hard habit
to break


So's insisting to be ignorant.

[green meanie]

Pay your dues first. Problem is, you want to be in without paying admission first.

Wow, for a supporter of a team which has two titles to show in the last 29 years you sure have a lot of bravado in you to talk about paying one's dues first. I wonder what the Sebastinians, Letranites and Mapuans will say about that.

[MonL]

Wow, for a supporter of a team which has two titles to show in the last 29 years you sure have a lot of bravado in you to talk about paying one's dues first. I wonder what the Sebastinians, Letranites and Mapuans will say about that.


They have their own. I leave it to them. What's there to dispute?

[MonL]

Wow, for a supporter of a team which has two titles to show in the last 29 years you sure have a lot of bravado in you to talk about paying one's dues first. I wonder what the Sebastinians, Letranites and Mapuans will say about that.

Bravado? Nah. Just a good view of the overall picture.

[bulon1122]

bedinger why do you hate bedans a lot...your generalizing and lahat ng post mo about san beda is negative???bitter ka ba? just asking

and tungkol sa rivalry...san beda has a rival with letran siguro now kasi yun ang pinaka aasam ng mga fans...and iba ang atmosphere kapag yung dalawa ang naglalaban.

ateneo? there is a rivalry before...pero now wala na kasi different league na sila although yung ibang tao lalo na yung mga old alumni ng both schools, buhay parin sa kanila ang rivalry. hindi namamatay ang rivalry...maybe now wala...pero soon malay natin mabuhay ulit...hindi umaasa ang san beda na magka rival ulit ang ateneo and san beda...kayo na mismo nagsasabi niyan...lalo na yung mga san beda hater...masyadong bitter...lalo na yang bedinger na yan...hindi ako alam kung ano problem mo. masyado kang bitter brad!

[red_beret]

no, simply because there is no such thing as a rivalry when it is no longer in existence. what you have is the past, that's all.

what's a rivalry when it is no longer in existence? nothing.

Your narrow definition of the word rivalry underscores your limited intelligence. A rivalry of the past still exists as part of history and you just cannot eradicate history because it helps define tradition and tradition in hand helps define the legacy by which institutions are known. Simple?



really? so why make a big deal out of the ateneo then? is it because you want to be mentioned in the same sentence as them hoping that both schools will be associated with each other? just a question..


Who then is making a big deal of ateneo, we mentioned them in the context of the past in order to elucidate the meaning of rivalry. Is that so difficult to understand? Did you feel slighted that when the golden era of sports basketball was mentioned we were not able to emphasize la Salle? But then I did refer to that by saying that in 1939; the La Salle cage team was disbarred for fielding an ineligible player the following year (although the title would not become Ateneo's until 1941, two years after the defeat),

besides, what's wrong with developing a rivalry with another ncaa team? fyi, frequent meetings and "school tensions" are major contributors to developing rivalries. in the long run having a rivalry that it can sell will do the ncaa good. don't tell me san beda doesn't want to be part of that?

There is nothing wrong in that for those who want to squeeze popularity by being associated with their rivals, but that is not the way we Bedans think. We don’t need others to get on top and if at all we mention the San Beda –Ateneo rivalry it is because it is a part of sports history and to emphasize the point that rivalry takes more than rare and occasional meetings. Putting it on an empirical and historical context makes the difference because by doing that we are not acting arrogantly but merely stressing the value of history to define the word rivalry. As I am getting redundant already I hope you get my point.

[green meanie]

They have their own. I leave it to them. What's there to dispute?

Apart from why you seemingly shun having a rivalry with JRU?

Hmmm, that San Sebastian, Letran and Mapua are in a far more better position to talk about paying one's dues?

[green meanie]

Your narrow definition of the word rivalry underscores your limited intelligence. A rivalry of the past still exists as part of history and you just cannot eradicate history because it helps define tradition and tradition in hand helps define the legacy by which institutions are known. Simple?

its not a narrow definition, rather it is the essential definition and not a perverted one such as insisting that a rivalry of the past still exists.

Who then is making a big deal of ateneo, we mentioned them in the context of the past in order to elucidate the meaning of rivalry. Is that so difficult to understand? Did you feel slighted that when the golden era of sports basketball was mentioned we were not able to emphasize la Salle? But then I did refer to that by saying that in 1939; the La Salle cage team was disbarred for fielding an ineligible player the following year (although the title would not become Ateneo's until 1941, two years after the defeat)

obviously you guys are. last sunday's opening was proof positive of that. huge bedan contingent complete with a cheering squad. too bad the ateneans didn't return the favor. nice move by the guys in blue.

There is nothing wrong in that for those who want to squeeze popularity by being associated with their rivals, but that is not the way we Bedans think. We don’t need others to get on top and if at all we mention the San Beda –Ateneo rivalry it is because it is a part of sports history and to emphasize the point that rivalry takes more than rare and occasional meetings. Putting it on an empirical and historical context makes the difference because by doing that we are not acting arrogantly but merely stressing the value of history to define the word rivalry. As I am getting redundant already I hope you get my point.

in other words you still want to have ateneo for a rival. question is do they want a rivalry with you guys?

[bulon1122]

i agree with you red beret...talagang binabara lang lahat ng mga haters na iyan ang mga bedista kasi nga bitter sila...kahit saan side...nasa good man tayo or bad tayo...masama parin tayo kasi we are on top...ganyan talaga...kapag maraming ingit sa iyo...kahit kaibigan mo pa iyan...hihilain ka pababa...

its ok kung hamakin niyo kami...kapag minsan nga eh dahil napupuno na kami sa iba eh nagiging negative na kami...dahil doon, babalikan nanaman ang mga bedans na sila ay war freak...or what so ever...pinagtutulungan niyo lahat ang mga bedista...pero buti nalang iba talaga kami...dito parin...nakatayo at lumalaban...kahit anong sabihin niyo,,,BEDISTA KAMI...!!!at hindi kami bababa sa level niyo na utak talangka! (message for those bedan haters...so bitter...so talangka!!!)

[Bedinger]

Bravado? Nah. Just a good view of the overall picture.

problem is
you seem to have
a distorted picture there

[toti mendiola]

:rotflmao: its not a narrow definition, rather it is the essential definition and not a perverted one such as insisting that a rivalry of the past still exists.



obviously you guys are. last sunday's opening was proof positive of that. huge bedan contingent complete with a cheering squad. too bad the ateneans didn't return the favor. nice move by the guys in blue.



in other words you still want to have ateneo for a rival. question is do they want a rivalry with you guys?
mga hippie na sallians pabili naman ng "amats" niyo, ang lupit ng intoxication niyo eh. hahahahaahah :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
repapips LSD syndrome yan, La Sallian Delusion! :handsdown:

[toti mendiola]

problem is
you seem to have
a distorted picture there
Eto Naka Acetone lang to. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :lol:

[NYHC]

obviously you guys are. last sunday's opening was proof positive of that. huge bedan contingent complete with a cheering squad. too bad the ateneans didn't return the favor. nice move by the guys in blue.



^^ hahaha sunday kasi walang ginagawa karamihan ng bedans and miski naman hindi ateneo kalaban ng san beda ehh madami pa rin nanonood na bedans pag walang pasok like sa fr. martins cup and iba pa.. basta ma panood lang *** RL ok na sa amin.. yan ang hirap ehh sat sat ng sat sat hidni naman alam kung bakit.

[Bedinger]

Eto Naka Acetone lang to. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :lol:

acetone
is the new designer drug
not unlike that rugby of yours
its so a thing of the past
just like the ateneo-san beda rivalry

[pulangpula]

:rotflmao:
mga hippie na sallians pabili naman ng "amats" niyo, ang lupit ng intoxication niyo eh. hahahahaahah :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
repapips LSD syndrome yan, La Sallian Delusion! :handsdown:

talagang pinangangatawanan iyung woodstock roots nila. siyempre, understandble iyan kasi kailangang patunayan na iyung rain chant nila is woodstock ang nag-silbing inspiration. dapat pala green hippies ang team nila para mas bagay sa rain chant.

go san beda fight!

[green meanie]

talagang pinangangatawanan iyung woodstock roots nila. siyempre, understandble iyan kasi kailangang patunayan na iyung rain chant nila is woodstock ang nag-silbing inspiration. dapat pala green hippies ang team nila para mas bagay sa rain chant.

go san beda fight!

do you dare? there's thread in the uaap forums where we can discuss cheers and chants in greater detail. that is if you dare.

[red_beret]

I will refrain from quoting simply because it’s not worth quoting, but again what makes a definition narrow is to circumscribe its application as in saying that rivalries exist only at present. And no we are not saying that the past rivalry of San Beda-Ateneo still exists that is the reason why we put it on an empirical prospect.

I don’t know which side has more contingent last Sunday but I can attest that the Bedans support their team with ardent fervor in each of their games that they occupied more than half of the Araneta Coliseum in every championship games the Red Lions participated in, and surely the Astrodome is a smaller venue. It does not matter whether the Red Lions are against Ateneo, PCU, Letran, JRU or Mapua, the Red Army will always be there.

The San Beda-Ateneo rivalry was not a media hype created to sell tickets or to pump up sales in order to rake in profit, it was a product of two teams that constantly meet each other in the past in order to gain basketball supremacy. We see it as it is. It was not generated or created to cater to the league. It was there because Ateneo always stood in the way of our championship bids and it does not matter whether or not we like them. Whatever we feel towards Ateneo (be it admiration or animosity) they became our rival because they challenged us. And we don’t care if they want us as a rival, we just want to establish the strength of our basketball program, but one thing that San Beda has is its unblemished integrity in sports and it can proud that through the long years it suffered a title drought it was never involved in any form of cheating be it in fielding ineligible players or committing acts of negligence.

[greenergy]

^ bro, don't mind pulangpula, he's just a troll that's why he was even banned from posting in B.com. Walang alam yan compared to other authentic and sensible Bedans online.

[NYHC]

^^ Go San Beda Fight!!

[greenergy]

... proud that through the long years it suffered a title drought it was never involved in any form of cheating be it in fielding ineligible players or committing acts of negligence.

Again, check the UAAP board's decision if was indeed because of "cheating". Ang hirap kasi sa inyo sobra kayo mag assume, base it on facts. Crab-mentality at its finest! rar!

[pulangpula]

one thing that San Beda has is its unblemished integrity in sports and it can proud that through the long years it suffered a title drought it was never involved in any form of cheating be it in fielding ineligible players or committing acts of negligence.

aray! parati kasing mga high :rotflmao:

[greenergy]

^ wee, animo troll. lol.

Now back to regular programming. *okay*

[toti mendiola]

acetone
is the new designer drug
not unlike that rugby of yours
its so a thing of the past
just like the ateneo-san beda rivalry

sino nag design? :rotflmao: :lol: new designer.. sige sinabi mo eh, pag wala na epekto ng acetone yung pang kulay naman sa kuko ha. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :lol:

[green meanie]

I will refrain from quoting simply because it’s not worth quoting, but again what makes a definition narrow is to circumscribe its application as in saying that rivalries exist only at present. And no we are not saying that the past rivalry of San Beda-Ateneo still exists that is the reason why we put it on an empirical prospect.

and what perverts it is the insistence that said rivalry is still alive

I don’t know which side has more contingent last Sunday but I can attest that the Bedans support their team with ardent fervor in each of their games that they occupied more than half of the Araneta Coliseum in every championship games the Red Lions participated in, and surely the Astrodome is a smaller venue. It does not matter whether the Red Lions are against Ateneo, PCU, Letran, JRU or Mapua, the Red Army will always be there.

funny, save for the jru and letran games in the ncaa last year the other san beda games i saw on tv didn't attract a huge bedan contingent. sure, it was only in tv but hell it doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine that many empty seats = low attendance. wonder what the red army was doing then?

The San Beda-Ateneo rivalry was not a media hype created to sell tickets or to pump up sales in order to rake in profit, it was a product of two teams that constantly meet each other in the past in order to gain basketball supremacy. We see it as it is. It was not generated or created to cater to the league. It was there because Ateneo always stood in the way of our championship bids and it does not matter whether or not we like them. Whatever we feel towards Ateneo (be it admiration or animosity) they became our rival because they challenged us. And we don’t care if they want us as a rival, we just want to establish the strength of our basketball program, but one thing that San Beda has is its unblemished integrity in sports and it can proud that through the long years it suffered a title drought it was never involved in any form of cheating be it in fielding ineligible players or committing acts of negligence.

again, all of what you said is water under the bridge. only those who feel a sense of being empty reminisce about the past. as with everything life there a times when one needs to know when to move on. past is past no need to make noise out of it. bear that in mind.

[fedor]

guys chill !!...we know its summer but you are way too hot on your "intelligent" discussion.....you're burning each other alive...

have a break! buko juice muna..

[red_beret]

Again, check the UAAP board's decision if was indeed because of "cheating". Ang hirap kasi sa inyo sobra kayo mag assume, base it on facts. Crab-mentality at its finest! rar!

Well to be frank, it was not actually Bedans who made the blatant accusation that you cheated but it was the Ateneans that they even came up with the banner "Suspended". To spare us the argument let us just say that what happened in 2005 was a mere act of negligence; But if you go back to my previous posts I did refer to 1939 wherein the NCAA stripped DLSU of its title for fielding in ineligible players, (that is what was stated by sports history) and none of these would have come to fore if not for an uninvited greenie who reared its ugly head.

[red_beret]

Suddenly a philosophical retort but hollow nonetheless.

If you see the venue of Red Lions games half empty at the NCAA it is because you are looking at the other side. The Red Army was always there in fact Wednesdays were declared as activity day ("no classes") in order to accomodate Bedans desire to watch their team and we were always there. I know I was and I say we always occupy half of the venues

[bulon1122]

hahahahaha!!!sapol!

[greenergy]

^ the statements that happened during the 1940 (bro, it isn't 1939, it was 1940) incident is still unclear also, the title is still with La Salle. It wasn't stripped-off. Though what's sure is that the team was really disbarred during that time.

Anyway, apologies if you guys were offended by some of my green comrades. Peace. :D

[pulangpula]

^ wee, animo troll. lol.

Now back to regular programming. *okay*

wee, keep the animo spirit alive (asa)!

[greenergy]

^ were you referring animo as a brand or the actual Animo La Salle meaning?

Still a troll. Animo Troll! weeee!

uuuy, hihirit pa yan...:bop:

[pulangpula]

Well to be frank, it was not actually Bedans who made the blatant accusation that you cheated but it was the Ateneans that they even came up with the banner "Suspended". For the sake of argument let us just say that what happened in 2005 was a mere act of negligence; But if you go back to my previous posts I did refer to 1939 wherein the NCAA stripped DLSU of its title for fielding in ineligible players, (that is what was stated by sports history) and none of these would have come to fore if not for an uninvited greenie who reared its ugly head.

animo san beda!

[pulangpula]

^ were you referring animo as a brand or the actual Animo La Salle meaning?

Still a troll. Animo Troll! weeee!

uuuy, hihirit pa yan...:bop:

you tell me, isn't that the meaning (spirit) that you guys have for animo? keep the animo spirit alive (asa).

[greenergy]

^ hahahahaha, should i explain it again or talagang ayaw mo lang magpatalo. Hay helpless troll.. cge, reply pa. hehe!

[red_beret]

^ the statements that happened during the 1940 (bro, it isn't 1939, it was 1940) incident is still unclear also, the title is still with La Salle. It wasn't stripped-off. Though what's sure is that the team was really disbarred during that time.

Anyway, apologies if you guys were offended by some of my green comrades. Peace. :D

and peace it is. I just hope your "green comrades" honor the peace.

[greenergy]

^ rar. I hope both sides honor it. Knowing PEx, marami talagang "trolls."

[pulangpula]

^ hahahahaha, should i explain it again or talagang ayaw mo lang magpatalo. Hay helpless troll.. cge, reply pa. hehe!

still not satisfied in stealing our cheers? what's this i hear that you've christened your pep squad to the animo squad. mas bagay ang "asa" squad. btw, regards daw from benitez and gatchalian.

[toti mendiola]

Red Army at Green comrades? hahahahaha

[toti mendiola]

para tayong mansanas sa basket niyan

[greenergy]

Red Army at Green comrades? hahahahaha

Gang Green pala. hehe! Rar!

[pulangpula]

^ rar. I hope both sides honor it. Knowing PEx, marami talagang "trolls."

classic case of the pot calling the kettle black :rotflmao:

[toti mendiola]

kulang na lang si snow white... yung seven dwarfs mancom na yun.

[greenergy]

para tayong mansanas sa basket niyan

kulang na lang si snow white... yung seven dwarfs mancom na yun.

hahahahahahaha! :lol:

[toti mendiola]

yung evil witch si bedinger oh kaya sa bomber boy

[Bedinger]

toti mendiola and greenergy
sitting on a tree
k-i-s-s-i-n-g

[greenergy]

who's the prince? hmmmm.

[greenergy]

naku pow! Andyan na yung Evil Witch_1 aka Bedinger. Tsk.

[toti mendiola]

toti mendiola and greenergy
sitting on a tree
k-i-s-s-i-n-g

kadiri! nanunuod ka ng dalawang lalaking naghahalikan sa may puno. tindi ng pangangailangan mo pare. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[pulangpula]

si bedinger tumira na naman ng acetone lakas amats

[greenergy]

kadiri! nanunuod ka ng dalawang lalaking naghahalikan sa may puno. tindi ng pangangailangan mo pare. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Kaya siguro bedinger = change "e" to "a"

ahahahahahaha! :lol:

[pulangpula]

galit sa mga bedista iyang si bedinger pero katakataka, ang favorite player niyan ay si aljamal. bakit kaya?

[MonL]

Apart from why you seemingly shun having a rivalry with JRU?

Hmmm, that San Sebastian, Letran and Mapua are in a far more better position to talk about paying one's dues?

There is nothing to shun because there is no rivalry at all. Opponents are not necessarily rivals inspite of your insistence.

[MonL]

problem is
you seem to have
a distorted picture there

I say otherwise. Your insistence on a non-issue causes your distortion. Ignorance does that. Malice, too.

[Bchemist]

I'll break in and say this: Yes, the JRU-SBC "rematch" game was one of the most anticipated of the year, and it got front page news in the aftermath. Stories were told of the fights both on the court and off the court...even one near the parking lot between the coaches that very few heard about.

The ratings were even higher during the replay that night.

The PBA players watched it...the ones I know from several teams told me that it was a "must see" for all of them. The UAAP audience watched it...several of the students in my gym said they saw me on TV....and it's no secret that a certain "green" school is nearby our flagship branch. Everyone watched the JRU-SBC game if and when they got the chance. Individuals even made a youtube video about it...a video I've shown to others with pride since it's a laugh riot.

In the end, everyone got a good laugh out of it. Does that mean that there's a rivalry? No. It's too early to declare a rivalry. That takes many years and it's something beyond the players. That's something that involves the school and those who support the teams over the long haul. What we saw last year was something that the NCAA has been dreaming about. College basketball in general has been dreaming of a 90's style game of Bulls vs. Knicks...blood and guts of how these players grew up playing basketball in their neighborhoods.

Will it happen again this year? Time will tell. Until then, it was just a game...that obviously people still have burned deep into their grey matter. I was there....I'll never forget it. But I'd love to live 50 more just like it. Let's see what happens in the future. If both schools have what it takes to make it happen, then I'll be there. Otherwise I'm just a catalyst in the grand scheme of things.

[iyurts]

In tha past 29 years, 5 times lang naglaro sa finals ang San Beda ( correct me if I'm wrong) at iba-ibang school ang nakalaban ng San Beda, thats why I think na wala pang naeestablish na rivalry ang San Beda. Most of the time during the 28 years period eh mas kalaban pa ng RL ang sarili nila kesa sa ibang team. Palagi kasi magaganda write up regarding the RL line-up saying it would be the year that they will end the title drought, but in the end they always come up short. During those times San Beda doen'st care kung sino pinaka malakas. Wala kaming hinahabol na team sa dami ng championship, ang mahalaga lang that time eh magchampion ulit kami kahit sinong team ang makalaban.

[iyurts]

Sa tingin ko sa case ng JRU ang habol nila eh matapos na din ang title drought nila kahit sino pa ang makalaban nila. Nag kataon lang na San Beda ang malakas ngayon at contender ang JRU sa championship. Before kapag wala sa dalawa (SBC, JRU) ay contender sa crown peaceful naman sila sa isa't isa. Unlike the Ateneo- La salle rivalry they have the mentality na matalo na sa lahat wag lang sa rival nila.

[redisred]

how about the Arch- rivalry between

San beda vs. Mapua

or San beda vs. Benilde

ito merong rivalry!!!!!!

[Bedinger]

how about the Arch- rivalry between

San beda vs. Mapua

or San beda vs. Benilde

ito merong rivalry!!!!!!

no such thing
bedans don't want a rivalry with other ncaa schools
what they want is a rivalry with ateneo
dream on

[toti mendiola]

Ang pait naman ng inaalmusal mo. ;D

[pgma]

it seems that more and more teams want to be branded as SBC rival. why not... they get free publicity... free ride to popularity... want to take the shortest route to success huh? nah... its ok to dream... so keep on dreaming. you'll wake up feeling refresh :D

[attyatlast]

How about San Beda vs. Punta Quiapo jeepney driver dribblers....Pwede rin!!!!

Easy , joke lang to.....

[simonsmug]

no such thing
bedans don't want a rivalry with other ncaa schools
what they want is a rivalry with ateneo
dream on

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." - Joseph Goebbels, Nazi.

“A lie told often enough becomes truth” -Vladimir Lenin, Bolshevik.

No such thing as a credible bedinger post. To paraphrase Goebbels the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and by extension, the mortal enemy of bedinger. - Simonsmug :D



Ahihihihi....


:love: :love: :love:

[bulon1122]

bedinger...bakit bitter ka sa mga bedista? ano ba ginawa nila sa iyo? kung may nang api man sa iyo na isa...huwag mo naman kaming lahatan.

ateneo gusto naming rival???huh? bakit???

baka sila gusto nila...kami maski sino naman pwede...kung wala...edi wala...ang importante ngayon ay kami ang champion at malakas,,,yun lang wala ng iba...yung team mo champion ba sila?

ano ba school mo at lagi mo kaming tinitira??? may pagmamalaki ba ang iskwelahan mo? baka hindi man sila kasali sa uaap or ncaa??? baka nakikisawsaw ka lang dito?

[bulon1122]

buti kami alam namin kung sino kami...BEDISTA KAMI...at hindi namin kina hihiya kung ano kami...ikaw tira ng tira hindi naman sinasabi kung saang institution ka...

at sinong nagsabi sa iyong ayaw namin ka rival ibang school...what's your proof? wala kaming sinasabi ganoon...ano...sagot ka?

mahirap sa iyo BEDINGER pinauunahan mo kami eh...nag chichismiss ka na hindi naman totoo...parang ikaw si lolit...

[Bchemist]

Well one things for certain:

Both JRU and SBC are spending the money to make their schools be renowned as respectable basketball powerhouses. JRU is just putting the finishing touches on their new athletic facility. It's the nicest I've seen so far. SBC is also modernizing some of their facilities and obviously pulling out all of the stops to keep their recruiting strong.

I'd say more than anything, this makes the NCAA more competitive and no longer a "2nd tier" league. As a whole the NCAA may not be as rich in talent as the UAAP, but it's no longer true to say that the UAAP has the best teams.

My prediction is that in two years, the rivalry will revolve around JRU, SBC, DLSU, and Ateneo. From my observations, those are the schools that are the most serious about their basketball programs and have spent (or continue to spend) the money to ensure their programs continue to grow.

Dark horses are Letran, CSB, and UE. They have the means as well...it's up to their trustees and school board to show if they have the commitment to winning.

[liontamer]

I think JRU would make a worthy rival. The tension is there and judging from how things go on here at PEX, the fans and students are in it too.

[Lionboy]

there's no rivalry whatsoever.

hilig maki-rideon.

[green meanie]

Well one things for certain:

Both JRU and SBC are spending the money to make their schools be renowned as respectable basketball powerhouses. JRU is just putting the finishing touches on their new athletic facility. It's the nicest I've seen so far. SBC is also modernizing some of their facilities and obviously pulling out all of the stops to keep their recruiting strong.

I'd say more than anything, this makes the NCAA more competitive and no longer a "2nd tier" league. As a whole the NCAA may not be as rich in talent as the UAAP, but it's no longer true to say that the UAAP has the best teams.

My prediction is that in two years, the rivalry will revolve around JRU, SBC, DLSU, and Ateneo. From my observations, those are the schools that are the most serious about their basketball programs and have spent (or continue to spend) the money to ensure their programs continue to grow.

Dark horses are Letran, CSB, and UE. They have the means as well...it's up to their trustees and school board to show if they have the commitment to winning.

as long as there are two leagues rivalries will be intra-league and as such the ateneo-la salle rivalry will be forever entrenched in the uaap. as for the ncaa, the development of a rivalry will be dependent not only on how each of their member teams can ensure constant competitiveness, but more importantly, the willingness to accept the rivalry.

[pgma]

pilit na pilit talaga.... konti pa :D
baka makuha sa media milelage :D

[UNKNOWN X]

ang corny ng thread na ito

[simonsmug]

bedinger...

bakit bitter ka sa mga bedista?
ano ba ginawa nila sa iyo?
baka nakikisawsaw ka lang dito?


TROLL kasi. Need I say more?

Ahihihihi...

:love: :love: :love:

[celtics]

no such thing
bedans don't want a rivalry with other ncaa schools
what they want is a rivalry with ateneo
dream on

So far tama si iyurts, for the past 28 years wala talagang archrival ang San Beda sa seniors division ng NCAA. The rivalry between Ateneo - San Beda will never happen unless there are leagues where both schools will compete with each other. The most talked about games of these 2 schools was during the time of Caloy "Big Difference" Loyzaga of the Red Lions and Tiny Literal of the Blue Eagles. For sure San Beda would not push to face their former rival, since both teams belong to a different league. It's obvious one belong to the NCAA and the other to UAAP.

For me it's nice to reminisce the old days and it's different this time. Ateneo have La Salle as their new rival in the UAAP basketball (since both of these schools came from the NCAA), while San Beda don't have any rival school (yet). Every year, each team in the NCAA are improving. Some of them did not reflect on their W-L record but if you look in their statiscal points, recruitement, etc. we can find some progress in their performance.

Kung hindi lang nawala ang Mapua Red Robins sa NCAA juniors meron SBC-MIT rivalry. The Red Cubs and Red Robins had their own rivalry during the 1990's and early 2000. I don't have any idea who have the most number of winning record. During our time at Jose Rizal we always setlled for 3rd place to either Mapua or San Beda. Talagang malakas ang mga junior team nila. I hope that the Red Robins will come back in the NCAA.

[DoctorWu]

TO ALL BEDANS,
Below is a nice letter from a La Sallite. I find this amusing and very true! We all know the truth. Ateneo and our Bedan elders know the truth. I am not sure about La Salle’s who continue to distort the facts resulting to delusionment of the new breed of La Sallians. They should get straight facts from their elders. People just cannot re-write history as much as they try to own animo, our Indian chant and even ripping ateneo’s halikinu (check out la salle’s rektikano). In the UAAP, its Ateneo and La Salle. In the old NCAA, its San Beda and Ateneo. In the new NCAA, it would seem Letran is the worthiest of all opponents considering its equally rich history. Are we eager to revive the rivalry with Ateneo? Yes, but not to the point of forcing ourselves into it. We are not social climbers but we only present the truth. NCAA is still home to us. In the meantime, I would recommend that we control our overzealousness on being there. Lets all respect other schools in the NCAA as this reflect the true character of a Bedan.

Quoted from Atenista.Net (Dec. 2005)
Young Lion,

I come from a family of Bedans and Ateneans. The very few of us who ended up in La Salle are lovingly patronized and everybody makes a conscious effort to make eye contact while conversing with them. We talk slowly in a clear and even tone and avoid using big words like "philosophy" or "matriculation."

As a grade schooler in the 70's, I distinctly remember a summer vacation I spent with a much older Bedan uncle. I was unfortunate enough to be assigned as his roommate and he constantly reminded me of of how Ateneo was "bano at bulok" throughout my stay. It was hard for me to appreciate his loyalty and fervor then but I surely identify with him now.

He is currently based in the US and recently visited with a couple of his Bedan siblings for our All Saints Day family reunion. I talked to them about this SBC-ADMU exhibition games and they would have loved to stay and watch had they not made a commitment to be back home by Thanksgiving.

In one of our discussions, the recent La Salle fiasco came up. It was very amusing and enlightening how unanimously they brushed it off as being unworthy of concern. For them LaSallites have always been "lampa at duwag" so the Salgado incident and the PEP test scandal were just the latest, not the last, of a series of embarrassments dating back to the 60's.

Most of the younger generations have very little knowledge of the HONORABLE San Beda-Ateneo rivalry. They were chivalrous knights that battled in the arena of academics, arts and sports. They won and conceded medals and trophies, literally drew blood from each other but still maintained high regard for their worthy adversaries.

My uncle characterized LaSalle's "win at all cost" strategy as being one based on CONTEMPT which, he said, is a function of their outsider status among schools with deep authentic traditions. He likened LaSalle to a scorned woman who has no breeding obsessed with marrying above her social class.

An Atenean uncle took the analogy humorously further. San Beda and Ateneo, he said, were lovers who had to part ways. La Salle, the unrequitted swooner, followed Ateneo to the UAAP, had a facelift and a boob job (pun intended) and offered itself as an inflatable love doll. Ateneo succumbed to the seduction and San Beda searched in vain for another deserving rival. Now comes the two date getting-to-know-you-again commitment. Prediction: Ateneo will finally realize that it has truly defiled itself by closely associating with La Salle and will lobby for the transfer of San Beda to the UAAP where La Salle will again assume the role of wannabe.[/B][/B][/I][/B]
I plan to bring my son so he can witness for himself the immortal Indian Yell. I look forward to seeing you and other noble Red Lions.

[green meanie]

TO ALL BEDANS,
Below is a nice letter from a La Sallite. I find this amusing and very true! We all know the truth. Ateneo and our Bedan elders know the truth. I am not sure about La Salle’s who continue to distort the facts resulting to delusionment of the new breed of La Sallians. They should get straight facts from their elders. People just cannot re-write history as much as they try to own animo, our Indian chant and even ripping ateneo’s halikinu (check out la salle’s rektikano). In the UAAP, its Ateneo and La Salle. In the old NCAA, its San Beda and Ateneo. In the new NCAA, it would seem Letran is the worthiest of all opponents considering its equally rich history. Are we eager to revive the rivalry with Ateneo? Yes, but not to the point of forcing ourselves into it. We are not social climbers but we only present the truth. NCAA is still home to us. In the meantime, I would recommend that we control our overzealousness on being there. Lets all respect other schools in the NCAA as this reflect the true character of a Bedan.

Quoted from Atenista.Net (Dec. 2005)
Young Lion,

I come from a family of Bedans and Ateneans. The very few of us who ended up in La Salle are lovingly patronized and everybody makes a conscious effort to make eye contact while conversing with them. We talk slowly in a clear and even tone and avoid using big words like "philosophy" or "matriculation."

As a grade schooler in the 70's, I distinctly remember a summer vacation I spent with a much older Bedan uncle. I was unfortunate enough to be assigned as his roommate and he constantly reminded me of of how Ateneo was "bano at bulok" throughout my stay. It was hard for me to appreciate his loyalty and fervor then but I surely identify with him now.

He is currently based in the US and recently visited with a couple of his Bedan siblings for our All Saints Day family reunion. I talked to them about this SBC-ADMU exhibition games and they would have loved to stay and watch had they not made a commitment to be back home by Thanksgiving.

In one of our discussions, the recent La Salle fiasco came up. It was very amusing and enlightening how unanimously they brushed it off as being unworthy of concern. For them LaSallites have always been "lampa at duwag" so the Salgado incident and the PEP test scandal were just the latest, not the last, of a series of embarrassments dating back to the 60's.

Most of the younger generations have very little knowledge of the HONORABLE San Beda-Ateneo rivalry. They were chivalrous knights that battled in the arena of academics, arts and sports. They won and conceded medals and trophies, literally drew blood from each other but still maintained high regard for their worthy adversaries.

My uncle characterized LaSalle's "win at all cost" strategy as being one based on CONTEMPT which, he said, is a function of their outsider status among schools with deep authentic traditions. He likened LaSalle to a scorned woman who has no breeding obsessed with marrying above her social class.

An Atenean uncle took the analogy humorously further. San Beda and Ateneo, he said, were lovers who had to part ways. La Salle, the unrequitted swooner, followed Ateneo to the UAAP, had a facelift and a boob job (pun intended) and offered itself as an inflatable love doll. Ateneo succumbed to the seduction and San Beda searched in vain for another deserving rival. Now comes the two date getting-to-know-you-again commitment. Prediction: Ateneo will finally realize that it has truly defiled itself by closely associating with La Salle and will lobby for the transfer of San Beda to the UAAP where La Salle will again assume the role of wannabe.[/B][/B][/I][/B]
I plan to bring my son so he can witness for himself the immortal Indian Yell. I look forward to seeing you and other noble Red Lions.

fact of the matter is which is the better school now? san beda or la salle? past is past, credit should be given to la salle for growing and adapting to the times which sad to say can't be said of san beda.

as much as la salle vs ateneo really goes beyond basketball i would rather not discuss that here since this is a sports thread but if any of your are game then let's see each other at the academe thread.

there is also no point in both reminiscing a past rivalry nor in insisting on a rekindled one between ateneo and san beda simply because both institutions belong to different leagues and thus such a rivalry simply does not hold any relevance.

besides, as in any rivalry the concerned parties, in one way or another, stand to benefit from each other. in the case of ateneo vs la salle its that both school's are able to cement their rightful standing as the best schools in the land. sadly though, if there is going to be an ateneo vs san beda part 2 then its only san beda which will benefit from the rivalry by being associated with a top tier school.

[DoctorWu]

@green_meanie

1) the quote posted came from a La Sallite, the analysis came from an Atenean.

2) what i have posted is all about basketball.

3) your response to the post only affirmed who is trying too hard to get a rivalry. people were just presenting the truth which you (and your kind) tried so hard to distort. yes, we can only reminisce the glory days which we share with the Ateneo elders, pati ba yun ayaw mo? sino sa tin ang social climber?

4) who is the better school? la salle? common, you guys have cheated so many times. is that a good school for you? im sorry bro or is it dudette? UP and Ateneo think otherwise. Many think you're not in their level. San Beda will not argue with that as we humble ourselves that UP and Ateneo are the better schools but we pride ourselves of being molded the right way, academically and morally. La Salle? Your institution is morally bankrupt with students and new graduates like you in there.

5) I agree with you 100% who's the best school but only in the area of business - marketing. You la sallians are good and quick in marketing a brand. pati animo, ginawang brand. Your entrance to the UAAP is a marketing move. As the Atenean elder pointed out, a desperate attempt.

6) mukhang hindi ka galing sa grade school and high school ng la salle. your persistence is quite different from that of my la sallite friends.


El Colegio de San Beda
Tiene que ganar!

Animo, bravo, viva!
San Beda San Beda Arriba
Luchar, zumbar, acudir
Hasta morir

[twelve_12]

TO ALL BEDANS,
Below is a nice letter from a La Sallite. I find this amusing and very true! We all know the truth. Ateneo and our Bedan elders know the truth. I am not sure about La Salle’s who continue to distort the facts resulting to delusionment of the new breed of La Sallians. They should get straight facts from their elders. People just cannot re-write history as much as they try to own animo, our Indian chant and even ripping ateneo’s halikinu (check out la salle’s rektikano). In the UAAP, its Ateneo and La Salle. In the old NCAA, its San Beda and Ateneo. In the new NCAA, it would seem Letran is the worthiest of all opponents considering its equally rich history. Are we eager to revive the rivalry with Ateneo? Yes, but not to the point of forcing ourselves into it. We are not social climbers but we only present the truth. NCAA is still home to us. In the meantime, I would recommend that we control our overzealousness on being there. Lets all respect other schools in the NCAA as this reflect the true character of a Bedan.

Quoted from Atenista.Net (Dec. 2005)
Young Lion,

I come from a family of Bedans and Ateneans. The very few of us who ended up in La Salle are lovingly patronized and everybody makes a conscious effort to make eye contact while conversing with them. We talk slowly in a clear and even tone and avoid using big words like "philosophy" or "matriculation."

As a grade schooler in the 70's, I distinctly remember a summer vacation I spent with a much older Bedan uncle. I was unfortunate enough to be assigned as his roommate and he constantly reminded me of of how Ateneo was "bano at bulok" throughout my stay. It was hard for me to appreciate his loyalty and fervor then but I surely identify with him now.

He is currently based in the US and recently visited with a couple of his Bedan siblings for our All Saints Day family reunion. I talked to them about this SBC-ADMU exhibition games and they would have loved to stay and watch had they not made a commitment to be back home by Thanksgiving.

In one of our discussions, the recent La Salle fiasco came up. It was very amusing and enlightening how unanimously they brushed it off as being unworthy of concern. For them LaSallites have always been "lampa at duwag" so the Salgado incident and the PEP test scandal were just the latest, not the last, of a series of embarrassments dating back to the 60's.

Most of the younger generations have very little knowledge of the HONORABLE San Beda-Ateneo rivalry. They were chivalrous knights that battled in the arena of academics, arts and sports. They won and conceded medals and trophies, literally drew blood from each other but still maintained high regard for their worthy adversaries.

My uncle characterized LaSalle's "win at all cost" strategy as being one based on CONTEMPT which, he said, is a function of their outsider status among schools with deep authentic traditions. He likened LaSalle to a scorned woman who has no breeding obsessed with marrying above her social class.

An Atenean uncle took the analogy humorously further. San Beda and Ateneo, he said, were lovers who had to part ways. La Salle, the unrequitted swooner, followed Ateneo to the UAAP, had a facelift and a boob job (pun intended) and offered itself as an inflatable love doll. Ateneo succumbed to the seduction and San Beda searched in vain for another deserving rival. Now comes the two date getting-to-know-you-again commitment. Prediction: Ateneo will finally realize that it has truly defiled itself by closely associating with La Salle and will lobby for the transfer of San Beda to the UAAP where La Salle will again assume the role of wannabe.[/B][/B][/I][/B]
I plan to bring my son so he can witness for himself the immortal Indian Yell. I look forward to seeing you and other noble Red Lions.

It's pretty obvious that the post you quoted was made up by an Atenean pretending to be someone from La Salle with the intention to bash subtly. Hindi na kayo nasanay sa mga Atenista.

[chellotte8]

I will refrain from quoting simply because it’s not worth quoting, but again what makes a definition narrow is to circumscribe its application as in saying that rivalries exist only at present. And no we are not saying that the past rivalry of San Beda-Ateneo still exists that is the reason why we put it on an empirical prospect.

I don’t know which side has more contingent last Sunday but I can attest that the Bedans support their team with ardent fervor in each of their games that they occupied more than half of the Araneta Coliseum in every championship games the Red Lions participated in, and surely the Astrodome is a smaller venue. It does not matter whether the Red Lions are against Ateneo, PCU, Letran, JRU or Mapua, the Red Army will always be there.

The San Beda-Ateneo rivalry was not a media hype created to sell tickets or to pump up sales in order to rake in profit, it was a product of two teams that constantly meet each other in the past in order to gain basketball supremacy. We see it as it is. It was not generated or created to cater to the league. It was there because Ateneo always stood in the way of our championship bids and it does not matter whether or not we like them. Whatever we feel towards Ateneo (be it admiration or animosity) they became our rival because they challenged us. And we don’t care if they want us as a rival, we just want to establish the strength of our basketball program, but one thing that San Beda has is its unblemished integrity in sports and it can proud that through the long years it suffered a title drought it was never involved in any form of cheating be it in fielding ineligible players or committing acts of negligence.

GO! San Beda FIGHT!

[mach]

We are organizing a party/event for cheerleaders/PEP squads. This will be at Absinth, GB3, starting July 1, 2008 and every week thereafter. We would like to have the contact information of all cheerleading squads/pep squads and invite them to the party. Send the contact info to roamcrew@gmail.com or to 09193968656 / 09228845185.

Thanks!!!