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bulon1122
Feb 6, 2008, 01:39 AM
LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE WONDERING IF PHILIPPINE CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY will join the NCAA 84th Season...Please inform us if you have any news about their status in NCAA...thanks:bop:
jpmalpass
Feb 6, 2008, 09:19 AM
Suspended lang ang PCU, parang DLSU nung 2006, hindi mawawala yan... :D
Ryusuke
Feb 8, 2008, 06:49 PM
sa ng isang member ng mancom maniwala daw kami di na kasali PCU... hmm i will not mention his name..
nash_bedista
Feb 9, 2008, 01:52 AM
ryusuke,
ibig sabihin wala ng PCU?
fattybearyus
Feb 9, 2008, 09:14 PM
Why would they do that?
celtics
Feb 9, 2008, 10:36 PM
Why would they do that?Because they fielded ineligible athletes. Sad to say after the controversy that was publicized in our local broadsheets and tabloids. Mas marami pa ang lumabas na mga players nila na either tampered ang birth certificate or fake ang school records.
It seems that they are doing this thing for such a long time 'coz they are confident in fielding individuals in almost all NCAA event.
Rafiboy_05
Feb 9, 2008, 11:12 PM
^^ kung matagal na nga nila talagang ginagawa yan, ibig sabihin tanggal na nga sila sa NCAA next season. pero wala pa yatang nilalabas ang announcement ang mancom kaya hanggang ngayon question pa rin kung kasali pa rin sila or hindi na.
renestrauss2004
Feb 10, 2008, 08:40 AM
Kelangan i-check if Jason Castro is the "REAL" Jason Castro.:(
kidding only! Mabait na bata yan!*okay*
nuss
Feb 11, 2008, 01:47 AM
Jason William nga pangalan niya sa records sa SEA Games. :lol:
LuMbErJaCk
Feb 11, 2008, 12:12 PM
lumabas na yung december-january edition ng PCU Blue and Silver newspaper and nakalagay dun something na sinabi ni Dualan talking about na parang sana makapasok sa final four next season or something like that. pwede rin nmang kaya hndi nilalabas kng sasali nga ang PCU next season eh para hndi maiscout ng ibang team.
Aleancelo
Feb 11, 2008, 12:32 PM
The Dolphins are currently playing at the 1st Mayor Alfredo Lim Cup in Manila so it means that they are now preparing for the NCAA season.
Get_Blazed
Feb 11, 2008, 08:57 PM
The Dolphins are currently playing at the 1st Mayor Alfredo Lim Cup in Manila so it means that they are now preparing for the NCAA season.
Sino sino kasali sa Mayor Lim cup?:hmm:
Aleancelo
Feb 11, 2008, 09:16 PM
^^
GROUP A
CKP 168
RV Marzan (led by SBC player Jeff Bombeo)
Air Relay
Nougat Candy
Polymaster Kings
Central Colleges of the Phil.
Trinity College
GROUP B
PCU Dolphins
Lyceum Pirates
Pacific Sky (led by ex-JRU player Ernani Epondulan and ex-CSB player Lou Gatumbato)
Rusty Lopez (led by ex-DLSU Green Archer Jerwin Gaco and ex-SBC Red Lion Ato Morano)
5th Avenue Telecoms
City College of Manila
UM Hawks
Games are held every day, except Monday and Wednesday at the San Andres gym in Manila.
Bakit di nakasali ang CSB Blazers samantalang malapit lang sa kanila ang venue? Preparation din iyon para sa NCAA season.
nuss
Feb 12, 2008, 06:04 AM
E di ba kakapalit pa lang ng coach ng CSB?
Get_Blazed
Feb 12, 2008, 02:50 PM
^^
GROUP A
CKP 168
RV Marzan (led by SBC player Jeff Bombeo)
Air Relay
Nougat Candy
Polymaster Kings
Central Colleges of the Phil.
Trinity College
GROUP B
PCU Dolphins
Lyceum Pirates
Pacific Sky (led by ex-JRU player Ernani Epondulan and ex-CSB player Lou Gatumbato)
Rusty Lopez (led by ex-DLSU Green Archer Jerwin Gaco and ex-SBC Red Lion Ato Morano)
5th Avenue Telecoms
City College of Manila
UM Hawks
Games are held every day, except Monday and Wednesday at the San Andres gym in Manila.
Bakit di nakasali ang CSB Blazers samantalang malapit lang sa kanila ang venue? Preparation din iyon para sa NCAA season.
Nako, yan ang di ko alam.. tsk :depressed:
Aleancelo
Feb 12, 2008, 07:07 PM
^^Perhaps you can drop by at the San Andres gym. Games usually start late, mga 7:00 pm na ang first game. Ako, di makanood kasi 'ala ako diyan sa 'Pinas. Nalagay na iyan sa news a month ago. They were inviting teams, inilagay pa nga ang contact numbers (I forwarded that invitation at the "In The Zone" forum). By the way, PCU is now leading in that tournament.
nuss
Mar 12, 2008, 02:54 AM
Is this tournament still ongoing? So that means naglalagari si Gaco?
Rafiboy_05
Mar 13, 2008, 08:40 AM
PCU’s return to new NCAA season at risk
By Marc Anthony Reyes
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 02:57:00 03/13/2008
MANILA, Philippines—Looks like the Philippine Christian University basketball team may remain in the NCAA freezer for another year.
Reliable sources on Wednesday said the NCAA Policy board has reached a decision following an investigation made on yet another irregularity allegedly committed by the school in recruiting players.
PCU was suspended last year due to the switching of identities of certain high school basketball players.
NCAA management chair Paul Supan said the league’s policy board, headed by Vincent K. Fabella of Jose Rizal University, “has arrived at a consensus regarding the issue on PCU, but we hope to meet with PCU officials at the soonest possible time before making any announcement.”
The NCAA probe, which actually ended last November, was said to have established proof that five more PCU players had “false identities, false academic records” and were recruited using “highly irregular procedures.”
PCU Mancom member Fred Olano denied knowledge of the policy board decision, saying he didn’t attend Mancom meetings since the school is under suspension.
“I have no idea. Unless they are talking directly to our president (Dr. Oscar Suarez),” said Olano. “But, of course, we are expecting to get reinstated this season.”
The five players whose eligibility is said to be under question are Jaypee Importante also known as Vincent King Importante, Victor Oliveros, Jundell Navaja, James De Gano and Elvin Jake Pascual.
http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20080313-124399/PCUs-return-to-new-NCAA-season-at-risk
Ala8n
Mar 13, 2008, 09:16 AM
Thank you sa pag post Rafiboy_05 at sa article na ito formality nalang na ma suspend ang PCU sa next ncaa season.
But I'm still hoping na ma reinstate pa rin this season kami pero malabo na kung madami kalokohan sa H.S. recruitment ng players sa basketball nung 2006 at kung tutuo na hindi isolated sa isang player lang.
Mr. Fred Olano explain ka sa mancom bago i finalize ng mancom ang decision paglaban mo na makabalik PCU this ncaa season!!
Bigbie
Mar 13, 2008, 09:32 AM
PCU’s return to new NCAA season at risk
By Marc Anthony Reyes
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 02:57:00 03/13/2008
MANILA, Philippines—Looks like the Philippine Christian University basketball team may remain in the NCAA freezer for another year.
Reliable sources on Wednesday said the NCAA Policy board has reached a decision following an investigation made on yet another irregularity allegedly committed by the school in recruiting players.
PCU was suspended last year due to the switching of identities of certain high school basketball players.
NCAA management chair Paul Supan said the league’s policy board, headed by Vincent K. Fabella of Jose Rizal University, “has arrived at a consensus regarding the issue on PCU, but we hope to meet with PCU officials at the soonest possible time before making any announcement.”
The NCAA probe, which actually ended last November, was said to have established proof that five more PCU players had “false identities, false academic records” and were recruited using “highly irregular procedures.”
PCU Mancom member Fred Olano denied knowledge of the policy board decision, saying he didn’t attend Mancom meetings since the school is under suspension.
“I have no idea. Unless they are talking directly to our president (Dr. Oscar Suarez),” said Olano. “But, of course, we are expecting to get reinstated this season.”
The five players whose eligibility is said to be under question are Jaypee Importante also known as Vincent King Importante, Victor Oliveros, Jundell Navaja, James De Gano and Elvin Jake Pascual.
http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20080313-124399/PCUs-return-to-new-NCAA-season-at-risk
Will these players be punished by the NCAA as well? If I'm not mistaken I think the punishment is a lifetime ban from the NCAA.
arizona
Mar 13, 2008, 10:36 AM
PCU should be booted out of the league.
The numerous anomalies committed by PCU shows its utter disregard to the integrity of the oldest collegiate league and its evident lack of respect to the body as a whole.
Masyadong malamya ang mancom. Bakit kaya?
Sa grabe at dami ng pandaraya na ginawa ng PCU, suspension lang ng isang taon pa ang naiisip ng mancom na parusa? This is the penalty they can think of against a member who got admitted barely ten years ago and treated the NCAA like a barangay league.
The NCAA should uphold its integrity and name by dropping the axe, swift and hard. More importanly, this would send a strong message to all members that its rules and regulations cannot be trampled upon.
Ang dami pang puwedeng makuha na ibang miyembro diyan.
PCU, on the other hand, should withdraw from the league out of delicadeza.
Ala8n
Mar 13, 2008, 11:16 AM
Ako naman if ever suspended ulit for a year, sana yun baby dolphins lang at hindi maapektohan ang Seniors team. Pero personal wish ko lang yan if ever hindi ma reinstate and dolphins next ncaa.
Technically same issue parin mas madami lang players ng jrs. team ang involved at under investigation. And arizona if ever meron ibang sport aside from basketball ang may irregularity ang PCU sure ako baka ma ban na talaga ng mancom ang PCU.
Si Olano auditor nalang ngayon pero sakin lang dapat kasi tinangal at pinatalsik sa school yan baka iba ang consensus ng mancom. PCU hindi nag deny sa issue since last year, nag sorry lang at makaawa na hindi mangyari ulit lahat ng coaching staff ng baby dolphins tinangal na si Olano nilipat lang pero empleyado padin?:grrr:
Sa PCU dapat bago mag bigay ng formal announcement ang NCAA tangalin na si Olano at baka mag reconsider makalaro pa ang Dolphins sa 2008 NCAA!!
Emperior7
Mar 13, 2008, 11:18 AM
dapat tanggalin na yun sa league. bawal mga mandaraya dito!! AHAAH! :shout::shout::shout::shout:
sj_redlion
Mar 13, 2008, 03:30 PM
^ Kalungkot, religious na school pa naman ang PCU
poging_bagsik
Mar 13, 2008, 03:59 PM
kakalungkot naman...:mecry:
dapat umaksyon na si kyla at ronnie rickets dito!:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Bahay_Kubo
Mar 14, 2008, 12:03 AM
PCU faces new NCAA suspension
Waylon Galvez
Manila Bulletin (http://www.mb.com.ph/SPRT20080313119321.html)
Philippine Christian University (PCU), suspended by the NCAA last year, may sit out another year as league officials uncovered a new anomaly relating to switching of identities by some players from the school’s junior team.
The announcement of PCU’s suspension has been delayed pending official notification to the school officials regarding the conclusion of the investigation that found players guilty of, among others, using another name to be able to play in the league two seasons ago.
According to a reliable source, the board, headed by Vincent K. Fabella of this year’s host Jose Rizal University, already made a decision but deferred the announcement pending a meeting with PCU president Oscar Suarez.
The source, who asked not to be named, said that PCU is facing "another one year suspension" following a report by the NCAA that discovered new names which were involved in identity switching and submitting false academic records.
NCAA management committee (MANCOM) chairman Paul Supan of JRU confirmed in a statement that the board, which met at the Casino Español in Manila, "has arrived at a consensus regarding the issue on PCU."
However, he refused to give other details.
"We hope to meet with PCU officials at the soonest possible time before making any announcement," he said.
The same source said the board discussed the letter submitted by PCU, which responded to the NCAA report that consist the names of those who committed falsification, given to Suarez a month ago.
It was only this time that the board discussed the issue because the NCAA wants to give the Dolphins "due process."
Sources said that the response sent to the NCAA was that PCU did not contest the points that were brought out in the report. Instead, "they are just asking for ‘mercy and understanding’ for what happened in the past."
The students reported as having false identities, false academic records and highly irregular type of recruitment procedures were identified as Jaypee Importante, Victor Miguel Oliveros, Jundell Navaja, James De Gano and Elvin Jake Pascual — are members of the PCU Baby Dolphins.
Importante’s real name is Vincent King while Oliveros and De Gano have already been implicated in the NCAA report last April which led to the PCU suspension.
Pascual, who won the 2006 Rookie of the Year and Most Valuable Player awards, is currently with the Team B of back-to-back NCAA champion San Beda College.
Fred Olano, who was transferred from being the school’s athletic head to auditor, declined to comment on the issue, saying, "It’s up to our president (Suarez), he’s the one who’s talking to the NCAA."
Rafiboy_05
Mar 14, 2008, 12:09 AM
dapat si lang suspension, tanggalin na dapat! yung first time pwede pang suspension kaso 2nd time na ito eh. madami pang schools sa Metro Manila na pwedeng ipalit sa kanila.
Bahay_Kubo
Mar 14, 2008, 12:13 AM
dapat si lang suspension, tanggalin na dapat! yung first time pwede pang suspension kaso 2nd time na ito eh. madami pang schools sa Metro Manila na pwedeng ipalit sa kanila.
bago dumating sa ganyang punto, imbestigahan muna nang husto. if proof of malice on the part of PCU can be established, then saka dapat parusahan ng expulsion. hindi pwede na bara-bara lang ang pagdedesisyon ng expulsion pagdating sa ganyan.
sa ngayon, dapat maglabas ng OFFICIAL STATEMENT ang PCU through its president, Oscar Suarez, para maging malinaw ang lahat as far as the NCAA is concerned.
one more thing. with Elvin Pascual now involved in the alleged irregularity in PCU, will San Beda let the one time Baby Dolphin suit up for the Red Lions this coming season?
liontamer
Mar 14, 2008, 12:30 AM
bago dumating sa ganyang punto, imbestigahan muna nang husto. if proof of malice on the part of PCU can be established, then saka dapat parusahan ng expulsion. hindi pwede na bara-bara lang ang pagdedesisyon ng expulsion pagdating sa ganyan.
sa ngayon, dapat maglabas ng OFFICIAL STATEMENT ang PCU through its president, Oscar Suarez, para maging malinaw ang lahat as far as the NCAA is concerned.
one more thing. with Elvin Pascual now involved in the alleged irregularity in PCU, will San Beda let the one time Baby Dolphin suit up for the Red Lions this coming season?
Ang tanong eh ano ang violation ni Pascual?
Bahay_Kubo
Mar 14, 2008, 12:41 AM
Ang tanong eh ano ang violation ni Pascual?
yun ang isa sa mga dapat maging subject ng investigation na gagawin. ;)
boredtoday
Mar 14, 2008, 03:33 AM
hindi naman paglalaruin yan sa RL kung may sasabit :D
Get_Blazed
Mar 14, 2008, 08:29 AM
hindi naman paglalaruin yan sa RL kung may sasabit :D
Kaya nga dpat imbestigahan eh. Galing PCU eh, so dpat lhat ng PCU athletes, kahit lumipat, maindi, nako, baka pati kayo sumabit dahil jan..:D
http://ncaaphil.multiply.com
poging_bagsik
Mar 14, 2008, 08:39 AM
si ronnie rickets na bahala jan.
walter_berry
Mar 14, 2008, 11:28 AM
I have it from a reliable source that what PCU asked Elvin Pascual to do was to repeat his junior year in HS in 2005 so that they can field him in as a HS senior in 2006. Apparently the kid was already in 3rd year HS when he was discovered by PCU scouts in Tarlac sometime 2004.
Outside of the above no identity switching happened with Pascual. Moreover, he is also not overage nor were his papers faked so that he can be admitted into HS. For all intents and purposes he was a bonafide HS student at that time.
Now, is asking a player to repeat a year of HS education just so he can play a violation? Inappropriate maybe but does it violate anything? No documents were falsified nor grades fabricated.
On a separate note, why is it that reporters seem to be so incompetent these days? Mr. Reyes mentioned names yet he did not care to mention what the violations are if indeed they are violations.
celtics
Mar 15, 2008, 01:57 AM
I have it from a reliable source that what PCU asked Elvin Pascual to do was to repeat his junior year in HS in 2005 so that they can field him in as a HS senior in 2006. Apparently the kid was already in 3rd year HS when he was discovered by PCU scouts in Tarlac sometime 2004.
Outside of the above no identity switching happened with Pascual. Moreover, he is also not overage nor were his papers faked so that he can be admitted into HS. For all intents and purposes he was a bonafide HS student at that time.
Now, is asking a player to repeat a year of HS education just so he can play a violation? Inappropriate maybe but does it violate anything? No documents were falsified nor grades fabricated.
On a separate note, why is it that reporters seem to be so incompetent these days? Mr. Reyes mentioned names yet he did not care to mention what the violations are if indeed they are violations.
You have a point in Pascual case. In terms of repeating his HS, they can put in that the kid did not meet the school's standard. Anyway, I guess why the NCAA MANCOMM did not released their investigation is because they wanted to talk first to PCU.
Probobly the commitee would like to hear the side of PCU before announcing it to the public. In other words they will have their day in court. In my opinion, PCU is doing this for such a long time and not only in basketball...but in other events as well. Based on the investigation coming from the reps of member schools found out that they are really in to it. There was a recommendation from one school last year to PCU that Mr. Olano should be removed from his post and issue a public apology to avoid drastic measures coming from the league. PCU declined the offer and face the sanctions given.
I think PCU should be banned for another year, it will also served as a lesson to other schools that are planning to cheat. Let PCU learn from their mistakes and help them rebuild the character they lost from the greediness of a few individuals. Please lang huwag na natin tularan ang mga personalidad sa gobyerno natin. We should educate our youth through sports to become better and strong person...Not corrupting their talent for the benefit of the others on their own personal interest.
Get_Blazed
Mar 15, 2008, 11:19 AM
Nako ingat nalang ang San Beda jan kay Pascual. Mukang may sabit :naughty:
http://ncaaphil.multiply.com
theo78
Mar 18, 2008, 07:10 PM
next week is the formal turnover...doon ninyo malalaman kung 7 teams pa rin ang ncaa or what...
Rafiboy_05
Mar 19, 2008, 08:30 AM
NCAA board suspends Philippine Christian U until ’09
By Reuben Terrado
Correspondent
www.businessmirror.com.ph
PHILIPPINE Christian University (PCU) was slapped with another one-year suspension following reports that its president, Dr. Oscar Suarez, has been appealing to the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) to rescind the punishment.
A source said Suarez met with NCAA Policy Board head Vincent Fabella, president of host Jose Rizal University, Monday to discuss the league board’s decision of suspending PCU for another season.
But the two have reportedly spoken to each other as early as last Wednesday night on the result of the NCAA investigation that PCU has falsified the documents of two more players on its juniors team two seasons ago.
Paul Supan, also of JRU and chairman of the NCAA management committee (Mancom), admitted there indeed was a meeting between Suarez and Fabella but neither confirmed nor denied PCU’s appeal, saying that the meeting was “between two school presidents.”
The Policy Board and the Mancom will formally announce the NCAA’s decision during the turnover ceremonies of the league’s hosting chores from JRU to Mapua Institute of Technology on March 28.
The league reportedly slapped PCU another one-year suspension after the official report stated that up to five players on its high-school basketball team were found to have switched identities and falsified documents.
Jaypee Importante (real name Vincent King Importante), Victor Miguel Oliveros, Jundell Navaja, James de Gano and Elvin Jake Pascual are believed to have been involved in the controversy. Importante, Oliveros and de Gano had already been mentioned in the prior report last April. Incidentally, Pascual, the Rookie Most Valuable Player in 2006, is now playing for San Beda College in its Team B and is expected to play for the defending champion Red Lions next season.
Rafiboy_05
Mar 19, 2008, 08:31 AM
PCU appeals case before NCAA board
March 19, 2008 07:58 PM Wednesday
www.journal.com.ph
PHILIPPINE Christian University president Oscar Suarez has reportedly appealed to the NCAA Policy Board to reconsider the alleged one-year suspension the school was slapped with after the league discovered two more high school PCU players with false documents.
A source who requested not to be identified revealed that Board chief Vincent K. Fabella of Jose Rizal College and Suarez met at closed doors recently, with the PCU head appealing that the college be allowed to compete in the upcoming NCAA season.
PCU was to make a return stint to the NCAA after being banned from competing in all events last season after three of its juniors’ basketball players were found to have false identities, false academic records and were recruited by dubious means.
But another round of discoveries reportedly was unearthed by the NCAA Policy Board with two more high school players being found to also carrying false identities. The Board has reportedly agreed to extend PCU’s suspension for another year.
The NCAA, however, hasn’t made a formal announcement yet but said that it would bare the sanction the turnover ceremony on March 28. This year’s host would be Mapua.
JRU’s Paul Supan, who chairs the Management Committee (MANCOM), confirmed the meeting but neither confirmed nor dened the PCU appeal.
“It’s just a meeting between two school presidents,” Supan said.
In the NCAA report handed to the board and presented to PCU, the high school players mentioned in the report were Jaypee Importante, Victor Miguel Oliveros, Jundell Navaja, James De Gano and Elvin Jake Pascual
Importante, whose real name is Vincent King, Oliveros and De Gano were already implicated in the first NCAA report last April. Pascual, the 2006 NCAA winner of Rookie of the Year and Most Valuable Player award, is currently with Team B of seniors’ back-to-back champion San Beda College.
Rafiboy_05
Mar 19, 2008, 08:33 AM
PCU tries to stave off ban
By WAYLON GALVEZ
www.mb.com.ph
The president of the Philippine Christian University has reportedly asked the NCAA Policy Board for leniency and requested that the school be allowed to participate in the coming season after reports surfaced that the league plans to suspend PCU one more year for recruitment violations.
A reliable source revealed yesterday that a meeting between PCU president Oscar Suarez and Vincent K. Fabella, president of host school Jose Rizal University (JRU), was held the other day during which PCU was informed of the impending one-year suspension and Suarez asking Fabella to reconsider the decision.
PCU was suspended one year for a similar recruitment violation and was thought to be ready to return to action this year.
But new information surfaced and an NCAA investigation revealed that the school had used more players who falsified documents than previously discovered.
Because of this, a consensus was reportedly arrived to suspend PCU for another season.
Paul Supan of JRU, chair of the Management Committee (MANCOM), confirmed the meeting took place but was not authorized to reveal the subject of the discussion.
"It’s just a meeting between two school presidents," Supan said.
But a source said the board, together with the MANCOM officials, will formally announce the NCAA decision during the turnover ceremony between JRU and 2008 host Mapua on March 28.
The board reportedly has already decided to suspend PCU, but has deferred the formal announcement pending a meeting between the board and Suarez.
In the 83rd (2007) season of the NCAA, the league suspended PCU after three players were found to have committed identity-switching and submitted false academic records to play in PCU’s high school team.
The NCAA identified the players as Jaypee Importante, Victor Miguel Oliveros, Jundell Navaja, James De Gano and Elvin Jake Pascual.
Importante, whose real name is reportedly Vincent King, Oliveros and De Gano were implicated in the first NCAA report last April. The others were found out only by the recent investigation.
If PCU is suspended, the school will still not be off the hook after serving the second one. It will still serve a one-year probation in 2009.
andyknight18
Mar 19, 2008, 10:26 AM
mukhang sasabit nga talaga si pascual?!
Get_Blazed
Mar 19, 2008, 11:54 AM
Sabit ****. ewan ko lang kung uungkatin yan ng MANCOM..:naughty:
http://ncaaphil.multiply.com
theo78
Mar 19, 2008, 05:53 PM
abangan na lang next week...
pgma
Mar 24, 2008, 11:04 AM
may balita?
Rafiboy_05
Mar 24, 2008, 07:42 PM
may balita?
after pa daw ng meeting ng NCAA ManCom this week mag-lalabas ng statement. 8 or 29 yata yung meeting nila
renvic
Mar 25, 2008, 12:36 AM
Sana matapos na itong kaguluhan. I hope!
spongklong
Mar 27, 2008, 04:53 PM
I have it from a reliable source that what PCU asked Elvin Pascual to do was to repeat his junior year in HS in 2005 so that they can field him in as a HS senior in 2006. Apparently the kid was already in 3rd year HS when he was discovered by PCU scouts in Tarlac sometime 2004.
Outside of the above no identity switching happened with Pascual. Moreover, he is also not overage nor were his papers faked so that he can be admitted into HS. For all intents and purposes he was a bonafide HS student at that time.
Now, is asking a player to repeat a year of HS education just so he can play a violation? Inappropriate maybe but does it violate anything? No documents were falsified nor grades fabricated.
if that's the case, then i'm pretty sure na maraming matatamaan.. i personally know 2 former HS players who did the same (from other NCAA schools). in fact, i already mentioned this same case (but not the name) in a thread before.. yun isa pa nga mas malala.. graduate na siya ng hs kaso bumalik pa ulit ng 3rd year para makalaro ng two years sa HS..
on the other hand, you may have a point in saying, technically, there should be nothing wrong since no identity switching and falsification of age happened.
Rafiboy_05
Mar 29, 2008, 06:36 AM
NCAA extends PCU suspension, drops team in probationary list
www.tribune.net.ph
03/29/2008
The National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) slapped Philippine Christian University (PCU) with another one-year suspension yesterday, extending the Dolphins’ non-appearance in league competitions for two consecutive years.
A highly-placed league source yesterday revealed the NCAA policy board has already come up with a final decision banning the Dolphins for another year, relegating them to a three-year probationary status and directly stripping them of voting powers and some benefits being enjoyed by a regular member.
The decision, however, will be formally announced when the policy board headed by its new president, Mapua Institute of Technology’s Dr. Reynaldo Vea, convenes on April 18.
The source, a member of the NCAA management committee, also divulged PCU has committed several “grave offenses” which were not covered by their suspension last year. And the most disturbing among those offenses is the ineligibility of a senior basketball star who played a vital role in the 2006 NCAA finals against San Beda College.
Aside from the senior stalwart, the league also found three other junior standouts guilty of committing the same offense. But the source refused to reveal their identities and spill further details, claiming that it would be better if the formal announcement would come from the policy board.
The source also said although the PCU president is making an appeal and negotiating to be allowed to play even just in men’s basketball next season, it is very unlikely for the league to reverse its earlier decision. Actually, the schedule sans the Dolphins is being readied at this point.
Former NCAA policy board president Vincent Fabella of Jose Rizal University did confirm the claim, but hinted that “we are just protecting the interest of the league and its members.”
Fabella, who transferred next season’s hosting to Vea in a simple turnover ceremony yesterday at the Casino Espanola, said they are keeping all major decisions within the board, like the probable extension of the PCU suspension.
Bomber Boy
Mar 29, 2008, 07:57 AM
NCAA extends PCU suspension, drops team in probationary list
www.tribune.net.ph
03/29/2008
The National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) slapped Philippine Christian University (PCU) with another one-year suspension yesterday, extending the Dolphins’ non-appearance in league competitions for two consecutive years.
A highly-placed league source yesterday revealed the NCAA policy board has already come up with a final decision banning the Dolphins for another year, relegating them to a three-year probationary status and directly stripping them of voting powers and some benefits being enjoyed by a regular member.
The decision, however, will be formally announced when the policy board headed by its new president, Mapua Institute of Technology’s Dr. Reynaldo Vea, convenes on April 18.
The source, a member of the NCAA management committee, also divulged PCU has committed several “grave offenses” which were not covered by their suspension last year. And the most disturbing among those offenses is the ineligibility of a senior basketball star who played a vital role in the 2006 NCAA finals against San Beda College.
Aside from the senior stalwart, the league also found three other junior standouts guilty of committing the same offense. But the source refused to reveal their identities and spill further details, claiming that it would be better if the formal announcement would come from the policy board.
The source also said although the PCU president is making an appeal and negotiating to be allowed to play even just in men’s basketball next season, it is very unlikely for the league to reverse its earlier decision. Actually, the schedule sans the Dolphins is being readied at this point.
Former NCAA policy board president Vincent Fabella of Jose Rizal University did confirm the claim, but hinted that “we are just protecting the interest of the league and its members.”
Fabella, who transferred next season’s hosting to Vea in a simple turnover ceremony yesterday at the Casino Espanola, said they are keeping all major decisions within the board, like the probable extension of the PCU suspension.
ang hirap namang hulaan nito? sino kaya ito?
maitanong ko rin lang, at bakit ngayon lang ito nalalaman ng ncaa? naku, baka may mga ganyang cases pa din sa ibang team ha, dapat imbestigathan ng bagong board lahat iyung line-up para sigurado.
Clarkent
Mar 29, 2008, 12:42 PM
what does "..drops team in probationary list" mean??
Probationary na lang sila.. not a regular member??
Logic dictates that they will follow Mapua in hosting..
Are they eligible to host the 2009 season?
pgma
Apr 2, 2008, 11:04 AM
what is the status of pcu now?
Rafiboy_05
Apr 2, 2008, 01:31 PM
what is the status of pcu now?
sabi 1 year suspended daw ulit pero sa april 18 pa yung formal announcement
b a d a s s
Apr 2, 2008, 01:45 PM
Sabit ****. ewan ko lang kung uungkatin yan ng MANCOM..:naughty:
http://ncaaphil.multiply.com
Talaga? Care to share with us what specific provision of the NCAA rule book was violated by Pascual?
pgma
Apr 2, 2008, 02:02 PM
^^
you have to understand that most are scared to death. lumps (aka b@lls) start to show in their throat. good thing pascual is a filipino otherwise, board room crabs could have created special rule for him.
ironclad17
Apr 2, 2008, 08:23 PM
i must say i am really disappointed from what happened to PCU...quite frankly, i am expecting a nice comeback from them...because i saw how Jason Castro has improved tremendously in PBL...with Beau Belga along in his side...the Dolphins has a better chance to redeem its lost glory but because of this?it's all flushed down to the drain...though i still want them to make a comeback hopefully in 85th season...
pgma
Apr 2, 2008, 08:39 PM
magaling talaga yang si jason. i heard na humble guy daw yan. sayang lang.
Bomber Boy
Apr 3, 2008, 11:08 AM
may rule sa ncaa na if you're deemed ineligible eh banned for life ka na sa nc. so in the case of pascual kung umulit nga siya ng 3rd year high school sa pcu ang ibig sabihin nun eh malamang overage na iyang batang iyan nung 2006. so kung deemed ineligible siya as a HS player banned for life iyan automatically sa ncaa so hindi siya pwede maglaro sa beda seniors.
may precedent na iyan, si bong solomon ng baste hs.
pgma
Apr 3, 2008, 11:14 AM
may rule sa ncaa na if you're deemed ineligible eh banned for life ka na sa nc. so in the case of pascual kung umulit nga siya ng 3rd year high school sa pcu ang ibig sabihin nun eh malamang overage na iyang batang iyan nung 2006. so kung deemed ineligible siya as a HS player banned for life iyan automatically sa ncaa so hindi siya pwede maglaro sa beda seniors.
may precedent na iyan, si bong solomon ng baste hs.
hmmm... now u sound like tsupan.
*** ha... may secret ka pala ha... may sarili kapang thread :D
Bigbie
Apr 3, 2008, 11:54 AM
ang pagkakaalam ko iyung kay bong solomon kasi is napatunayan talaga iyun. hindi ko alam iyung kay pascual, gaano na ba katanda iyung bata na iyan ngayon?
NYHC
Apr 3, 2008, 02:11 PM
sa una dapat **** sisihin dyan is *** school.. hindi *** bata.. lam dapat nila *** rules sa ncaa.
Bahay_Kubo
Apr 15, 2008, 04:29 PM
so, ano na bang plano niyo sa fate ng PCU? :?:
R@nd0m
Apr 15, 2008, 04:53 PM
I dont think the NCAA can afford losing another contender in PCU. That is why they are delaying the decision as long as possible. With the likes of Castro and Belga against ekwe and the boys, that would draw people, lalo na last year na ni Castro at Belga, and with the UAAP running away with popularity(and the marquee players as a result) and box office return and also sponsorship, the NCAA wants to but CANT(kaya ba agrre sila sa merger? Hmmm..)
Just an opinion .
Rafiboy_05
Apr 15, 2008, 05:07 PM
so, ano na bang plano niyo sa fate ng PCU? :?:
april 18 pa malalaman kung plano nila sa PCU pero may article na lumabas na may decision na agad sila since march 29 pa, for formality na lang daw yung sa april 18 pero di naman kinoconfirm ng MANCOM kung totoo yung nakasulat sa article na yun. mag-antay na lang tayo, sa friday na naman yung april 18. konting antay na lang:)
King_neroj
Apr 15, 2008, 05:23 PM
Sana nga maka balik na sila... sayang naman yung ibang players, sayang yung career nila...
Sayang naman at dahil sa kabulukan ng iba eh napapahamak ang madami...
Just my opinion... napaka ***** ng gumawa neto. siguro kung dinaya ang age pwede pa, kasi sa exposure ng Philippine Basketball hinding hindi mo maitatago iyan eh, hindi lang naman sa NCAA natatapos, pwedeng maging commercial player iyan or what ever man. I mean napakatanga naman ng gumawa niyan...Unang una nakakahiya...pangalawa, hindi nag iisip.
At least eye opener na din iyan...as far as i know hindi lang naman PCU ang may anulmayang "nagawa" kundi matagal na iyan sa ibang school, not to mention the name pero kaklase ko nung high school naka pag laro siya sa isang NCAA school ng 5 years samantalang kasing edad ko siya pati birthday eh alam ko..yun nga lang hindi gaanong tinututukan noon, salamat nalang sa LA Salle at nasampolan..
kaya yung mga ibang school, huwag mag malinis...
ang maganda eh since high school ang nag kasala.. sila tanggalin nila, pero ang senior team nila eh palaruin..hehehe
King_neroj
Apr 15, 2008, 05:29 PM
Its been a pratice na din noon pa.. na pag nag try out ang isang player sa isang school, at may potential eh ibabalik ka nila sa High school kahit graduate na from the province.. para sa ganun eh mahasa yung player at magamit sa susunod na taon...
me and my friend experience that, kaso hindi ako tumuloy pero yung friend ko eh nasa PBL na ngayon... di ko na sasabihin ang school, pero sa NCAA din.
kaya wag nalang mag malinis yung ibang school kasi halos may bahid din naman...malinis nga lang gumawa...
red_real_animo
Apr 15, 2008, 06:34 PM
may implication ba if castro signed the contract offered to him by the Singapore Slinger, a professional ball club participating in the Australina BBall league?
King_neroj
Apr 15, 2008, 06:40 PM
i think meron bro, kasi yung isang exchange student ata ng Perpetual last year kaya hindi naka lusot eh dahil naka laro na siya sa pro league. (not sure pero parang may ganun akong nabasa)
Siguro kung pipirma man siya eh, hindi siya papayagan ng Slingers na mag laro pa sa NCAA, (for safety reasons)
Ala8n
Apr 16, 2008, 11:32 AM
I dont think the NCAA can afford losing another contender in PCU. That is why they are delaying the decision as long as possible. With the likes of Castro and Belga against ekwe and the boys, that would draw people, lalo na last year na ni Castro at Belga, and with the UAAP running away with popularity(and the marquee players as a result) and box office return and also sponsorship, the NCAA wants to but CANT(kaya ba agrre sila sa merger? Hmmm..)
Just an opinion .
Sa friday kaya payagan mag laro ang PCU Dolphins this 2008-2009 season pero suspended for 2009-2010 dahil sa bagong problema sa 2006 baby Dolphins players ng NCAA Mancom?
Possible ito kasi para complete ang member teams sa current ncaa 2008-2009. At dahil kay Castro at Belga na last chance this year makalaro bago mag pro?
Nag intay din si Jason Castro siguro ng final decision sa status ng PCU this year bago mag decide sa bagong offer ng Singapore NBL team ng Australia?
ironclad17
Apr 16, 2008, 11:23 PM
Sa friday kaya payagan mag laro ang PCU Dolphins this 2008-2009 season pero suspended for 2009-2010 dahil sa bagong problema sa 2006 baby Dolphins players ng NCAA Mancom?
Possible ito kasi para complete ang member teams sa current ncaa 2008-2009. At dahil kay Castro at Belga na last chance this year makalaro bago mag pro?
Nag intay din si Jason Castro siguro ng final decision sa status ng PCU this year bago mag decide sa bagong offer ng Singapore NBL team ng Australia?
i hope na magdilang anghel ka...im also looking forward for them to comeback...sana nga payagan sila this 84th season..mas maganda makita ang NCAA with completes teams plus a lot of improvement sa mga NCAA players who participated in their respective teams in PBL...especially sa PCU players na si Jason Castro at Beau Belga...:D
anton615
Apr 19, 2008, 12:53 AM
Let them join! how the hell is scared of them!
R@nd0m
Apr 19, 2008, 12:59 AM
Let them join! how the hell is scared of them!
^^ BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Tol pare repapips o ano pa mga tawagan niyo, mag filipino ka na lang!!!
Hahahahaha!!!!
redisred
Apr 19, 2008, 02:03 AM
how how is the carabao!
Peter►
Apr 19, 2008, 08:19 AM
:bounce2: :rotfl: :grinroll:
iyurts
Apr 20, 2008, 10:08 AM
Anong balita dito? akala ko April 18 yun announcement!
Rafiboy_05
Apr 20, 2008, 11:42 AM
wala pa rin official announcement. baka June na wala pa rin announcement yan.
andreiboy026
Apr 21, 2008, 02:55 AM
According s news mukhang Lyceum of the Philippines ang papalit s PCU as a ncaa member.
nash_bedista
Apr 21, 2008, 08:19 AM
lyce? naku daming chicks dyan ! hahaha
King_neroj
Apr 21, 2008, 11:59 PM
As far as i know, hindi papalitan ang PCU.. NCAA mancom will not do that,..tsaka in case man na papasok sa NCAA ang Lyceum at kung sino mang school they undergo into process, it takes months para pag aralan ng board iyon before they can join...and there's no rule na dapat eh 8 teams lang ang pwede sa NCAA...they can add schools without kicking the others out. Should they decided na hindi man pasalihin ang PCU for this comming season, it doesnt mean na papalitan sila ng ibang school...
Since we all know that the result will be announce last April 18 and till now eh wala pa, i want to think possitive na kaya nag tagal at hanggang ngayon ay wala pang decision dahil siguro eh na consider yung appeal ng PCU to lift the suspension for this comming season.. what do you think?
Rafiboy_05
Apr 22, 2008, 12:07 AM
lyce? naku daming chicks dyan ! hahaha
ay oo dapaming chicks dyan. sa tapat namin dumadaan yan eh:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
yung Lyceum replacing PCU, parang hearsay lang yata yan, wala akong mahanap na links na nag-sasabi na totoo siya eh.
Bahay_Kubo
Apr 22, 2008, 11:23 PM
so, hanggang ngayon ay nakabitin pa din ang kinabukasan ng PCU sa NCAA? :naughty:
RedLion2001
Apr 23, 2008, 09:06 AM
According s news mukhang Lyceum of the Philippines ang papalit s PCU as a ncaa member.
Where did you hear this? Please state your source, news article or any proof, for your statement.
kasi nagmumukha ka lang tambay sa kanto na mahilig magkalat ng tsismis... *peace* :rotflmao:
celtics
Apr 23, 2008, 09:54 AM
Its been a pratice na din noon pa.. na pag nag try out ang isang player sa isang school, at may potential eh ibabalik ka nila sa High school kahit graduate na from the province.. para sa ganun eh mahasa yung player at magamit sa susunod na taon...
me and my friend experience that, kaso hindi ako tumuloy pero yung friend ko eh nasa PBL na ngayon... di ko na sasabihin ang school, pero sa NCAA din.
kaya wag nalang mag malinis yung ibang school kasi halos may bahid din naman...malinis nga lang gumawa...
Hindi naman sa nagma-malinis ang ibang school. Ok lang yun na bumalik ka ng HS, as long as the player is not overage. There are some NCAA schools na iba ang curriculum. That maybe the reason why there are some schools na pinababalik sa lower year ang student and above else that is legal. What your PCU officials did are the following:
1. They switch the identities of your players that is related to him/her. Wala na nga naman magiging problema dahil sa edad pa lang eh mag mu-mukhang malinis na. They can reason out na sa hirap ng buhay sa probinsiya eh nag matured ka agad ang mukha at maganda ang built ng katawan.
2. They are doing this for such a long time. My friend who used to work at PCU resigned after learning the incident. I would not elaborate furhter kung saan field ng athletic event sila nagsimula mandaya. It's not only in basketball, they also fielded ineligible players for track and field, volleyball, football, etc. In my opinion, kung ganyan ka confident ang mga school officials... eh malamang matagal na talaga nilang ginagawa ito.
3. PCU official denies the accusation of NCAA investigating commitee until the player shows up together with NBI agents.
I remember during the screening of players way back then, 3 NCAA member schools shows some doubts on Espina's eligibility. But, they are bested by the other schools. The rest is history.
I am not defending other school, pero siguro naman mas malinis ang ibang school dahil walang katulad na officials like sa PCU. Don't take this personally, pero I think hindi dapat sabihin na "Huwag Magmalinis" ang isang tao, lalo't napatunayan na sila ay nagkasala.
Hindi nga malinis ang ibang school.... Pero hindi rin naman marumi.
Peace *okay*
King_neroj
Apr 23, 2008, 08:14 PM
Hindi naman sa nagma-malinis ang ibang school. Ok lang yun na bumalik ka ng HS, as long as the player is not overage. There are some NCAA schools na iba ang curriculum. That maybe the reason why there are some schools na pinababalik sa lower year ang student and above else that is legal. What your PCU officials did are the following:
1. They switch the identities of your players that is related to him/her. Wala na nga naman magiging problema dahil sa edad pa lang eh mag mu-mukhang malinis na. They can reason out na sa hirap ng buhay sa probinsiya eh nag matured ka agad ang mukha at maganda ang built ng katawan.
2. They are doing this for such a long time. My friend who used to work at PCU resigned after learning the incident. I would not elaborate furhter kung saan field ng athletic event sila nagsimula mandaya. It's not only in basketball, they also fielded ineligible players for track and field, volleyball, football, etc. In my opinion, kung ganyan ka confident ang mga school officials... eh malamang matagal na talaga nilang ginagawa ito.
3. PCU official denies the accusation of NCAA investigating commitee until the player shows up together with NBI agents.
I remember during the screening of players way back then, 3 NCAA member schools shows some doubts on Espina's eligibility. But, they are bested by the other schools. The rest is history.
I am not defending other school, pero siguro naman mas malinis ang ibang school dahil walang katulad na officials like sa PCU. Don't take this personally, pero I think hindi dapat sabihin na "Huwag Magmalinis" ang isang tao, lalo't napatunayan na sila ay nagkasala.
Hindi nga malinis ang ibang school.... Pero hindi rin naman marumi.
Peace *okay*
Sir MY POINT HERE IS, may mga practises nang ganyan noon pa..kaya lang talaga ang iba kung gumawa eh malinis...Oppsss sorry i need to be careful kasi wala pa naman palang ibang sumisingaw na kalokohan yung iba.. pero may alam di naman ako at mismong yung tao pang mismong involved ay kaibigan ko (hindi yung bumalik sa high school kundi dinaya talaga yung age)...YUN PO ANG POINT KO..
hmmmm sa atlethics department din ba nag work yung friend mo? paano niya nalaman na pati sa ibang feild eh nandaya yung ibang officials? (iba dahil hindi naman silang lahat eh gumawa ng kalokohan)...kung sa atletics nga siya nag work...bago niya lang ba nalaman o noon pa niya alam? dahil kung bago lang nabulgar iyan eh malamang pinatulan na din ng media iyan...kung noon pa niya alam, sana noon pa eh nanindigan nalang siya... wala lang po nag iisip lang and besides malamang kilala ko yung friend mo kung matagal siyang nag work sa PCU...Sana gayahin siya nung president ng school mag resigned na din.. hindi yung ginagaya niya si GMA.nag ssorry at humihingi ng mercy....
nothing personal pare.. for the sake of discussion lang... since baguhan lang ako dito hope you understand, i respect you guys na matagal na dito sa forum.
Sana nga eh mawala na yung mga dayaang ganito...after all SPORTS naman ang labanan.. at kung sino man ang hindi lumalaban ng patas ay mananatiling talunan...
i rest my case...:bop:
celtics
Apr 24, 2008, 11:34 AM
Sir MY POINT HERE IS, may mga practises nang ganyan noon pa..kaya lang talaga ang iba kung gumawa eh malinis...Oppsss sorry i need to be careful kasi wala pa naman palang ibang sumisingaw na kalokohan yung iba.. pero may alam di naman ako at mismong yung tao pang mismong involved ay kaibigan ko (hindi yung bumalik sa high school kundi dinaya talaga yung age)...YUN PO ANG POINT KO..
hmmmm sa atlethics department din ba nag work yung friend mo? paano niya nalaman na pati sa ibang feild eh nandaya yung ibang officials? (iba dahil hindi naman silang lahat eh gumawa ng kalokohan)...kung sa atletics nga siya nag work...bago niya lang ba nalaman o noon pa niya alam? dahil kung bago lang nabulgar iyan eh malamang pinatulan na din ng media iyan...kung noon pa niya alam, sana noon pa eh nanindigan nalang siya... wala lang po nag iisip lang and besides malamang kilala ko yung friend mo kung matagal siyang nag work sa PCU...Sana gayahin siya nung president ng school mag resigned na din.. hindi yung ginagaya niya si GMA.nag ssorry at humihingi ng mercy....
nothing personal pare.. for the sake of discussion lang... since baguhan lang ako dito hope you understand, i respect you guys na matagal na dito sa forum.
Sana nga eh mawala na yung mga dayaang ganito...after all SPORTS naman ang labanan.. at kung sino man ang hindi lumalaban ng patas ay mananatiling talunan...
i rest my case...:bop:
In this case PCU ang nahuli. Personally I think na matagal na ginagaw ng PCU to. Dahil hindi lang sa isang event sila nag field ng ineligible player. Imagined they're doing at will in almost all event at kumpiyansa sila. As for my friend no he's not involved in the athletics and the media didn't knew this. In fact mukhang hindi sila sa basketball nagsimula mag inject ng players na over age and had falsificated grades. From there baka they tested the waters first kung makakalusot.
On your school Presisdent, hindi dapat siya ang mag resign kundi yung mga taong involved. In fact the NCAA is asking your school representative to admit the crime, issue a public apology and releived from the post those who are involved in this fiasco. But it was later turned down and accept their suspension. Days passed by,parami ng parami ang mga nakikitang ebidensiya sa mga illegal na players. That's why the MANCOMM decided to extend their suspension from the league and put them under probationary status.
Bigbie
Apr 24, 2008, 11:47 AM
In this case PCU ang nahuli. Personally I think na matagal na ginagaw ng PCU to. Dahil hindi lang sa isang event sila nag field ng ineligible player. Imagined they're doing at will in almost all event at kumpiyansa sila. As for my friend no he's not involved in the athletics and the media didn't knew this. In fact mukhang hindi sila sa basketball nagsimula mag inject ng players na over age and had falsificated grades. From there baka they tested the waters first kung makakalusot.
On your school Presisdent, hindi dapat siya ang mag resign kundi yung mga taong involved. In fact the NCAA is asking your school representative to admit the crime, issue a public apology and releived from the post those who are involved in this fiasco. But it was later turned down and accept their suspension. Days passed by,parami ng parami ang mga nakikitang ebidensiya sa mga illegal na players. That's why the MANCOMM decided to extend their suspension from the league and put them under probationary status.
i think ang pinipoint out ni neroj is that apart from pcu there are other ncaa schools that are also cheating, iyun lang nga pcu lang iyung nahuli. mahirap lang magsalita but i think there's some truth in what neroj si saying kasi i know of a couple of former ncaa hs players that were overaged when they played in the nc.
King_neroj
Apr 24, 2008, 02:10 PM
In this case PCU ang nahuli. Personally I think na matagal na ginagaw ng PCU to. Dahil hindi lang sa isang event sila nag field ng ineligible player. Imagined they're doing at will in almost all event at kumpiyansa sila. As for my friend no he's not involved in the athletics and the media didn't knew this. In fact mukhang hindi sila sa basketball nagsimula mag inject ng players na over age and had falsificated grades. From there baka they tested the waters first kung makakalusot.
On your school Presisdent, hindi dapat siya ang mag resign kundi yung mga taong involved. In fact the NCAA is asking your school representative to admit the crime, issue a public apology and releived from the post those who are involved in this fiasco. But it was later turned down and accept their suspension. Days passed by,parami ng parami ang mga nakikitang ebidensiya sa mga illegal na players. That's why the MANCOMM decided to extend their suspension from the league and put them under probationary status.
As i've said... i would like to rest my case, pero since sumagot po kayo then sasagot na din ulit ako...*okay*
first... mahirap naman atang sabihin na porket nag excel sila sa ibang sports eh pati dun eh nandaya na din sila...(ano ito politics, pag natalo nadaya?)... im speaking sayo personally kasi heto po ang sabi mo. "Personally I think na matagal na ginagaw ng PCU to. Dahil hindi lang sa isang event sila nag field ng ineligible player. Imagined they're doing at will in almost all event at kumpiyansa sila."
Second i am always an advocate of truth...been writing some articles noon sa national newspaper about erap and all the things he has done during my college years..(oppss sa tagalog po mga articles ko, i know hindi ako ganun kagaling mag english, baka mapuna ang english ko dito)...and mananatili po akong advocate ng katotohanan,..
nyway ang sa akin lang po, kung alam ng friend mo at nalaman mo,,aba eh hindi malayong malaman din ng media iyan lalo pat mainit ang issue...i challenge you and your friend, kung may ebidensiya at kayang patunayan, hindi man siya kundi ang mga taong pwedeng mag imbestiga..HE SHOULD SPEAK OUT.KUNG TAKOT SIYA PWEDE SIYANG SUMULAT SA MEDIA AND ITAGO NALANG ANG PERSONALITY NIYA...ang sa akin lang KUNG TALAGANG NAGKASALA ANG PCU AT MAPATUNAYAN NA HINDI LANG SA BASKETBALL SILA NANDAYA..THEN THEY HAVE NO PLACE IN NCAA...hindi lang dapat suspension kundi sipain nalang sila....after all nawawalan ng saysay ang tinatawag nilang "SPORTS".
I love my school but i will not depend them kung may mali silang nagawa...from the very start hindi ko po pinag tanggol ang PCU kahit pa loyal ako dito...ang pino point out ko lang noon pa, MAY MGA SCHOOL DIN NA GUMAWA NG GUSOT YUN NGA LANG HINDI NABUKO, KAYA NAKALUSOT..i will never depend PCU kung may mali sila then patunayan at isiwalat ang mga kalokohan and ibigay sa kanila kung ano man ang nararapat na kaparusahan.
Since napag uusapan na rin lang naman natin to...you can PM me with regards to the issues na sinasabi mo ma hindi lang sa basketball may mga nangyayaring kalokohan, you can give me the details and ako mismo ang mag rereklamo sa NCAA kung ano man ang mga iyon. Susulatan ko sila na gumawa ng ibang investigation tungkol sa mga tinutukoy mo...Wala itong selfish interest all our names will not be known by public.
LETS CONDEMN CHEATING IN ANY ASPECTS OF OUR SOCIETY.
celtics
Apr 25, 2008, 03:19 PM
As i've said... i would like to rest my case, pero since sumagot po kayo then sasagot na din ulit ako...*okay*
first... mahirap naman atang sabihin na porket nag excel sila sa ibang sports eh pati dun eh nandaya na din sila...(ano ito politics, pag natalo nadaya?)... im speaking sayo personally kasi heto po ang sabi mo. "Personally I think na matagal na ginagaw ng PCU to. Dahil hindi lang sa isang event sila nag field ng ineligible player. Imagined they're doing at will in almost all event at kumpiyansa sila."
Second i am always an advocate of truth...been writing some articles noon sa national newspaper about erap and all the things he has done during my college years..(oppss sa tagalog po mga articles ko, i know hindi ako ganun kagaling mag english, baka mapuna ang english ko dito)...and mananatili po akong advocate ng katotohanan,..
nyway ang sa akin lang po, kung alam ng friend mo at nalaman mo,,aba eh hindi malayong malaman din ng media iyan lalo pat mainit ang issue...i challenge you and your friend, kung may ebidensiya at kayang patunayan, hindi man siya kundi ang mga taong pwedeng mag imbestiga..HE SHOULD SPEAK OUT.KUNG TAKOT SIYA PWEDE SIYANG SUMULAT SA MEDIA AND ITAGO NALANG ANG PERSONALITY NIYA...ang sa akin lang KUNG TALAGANG NAGKASALA ANG PCU AT MAPATUNAYAN NA HINDI LANG SA BASKETBALL SILA NANDAYA..THEN THEY HAVE NO PLACE IN NCAA...hindi lang dapat suspension kundi sipain nalang sila....after all nawawalan ng saysay ang tinatawag nilang "SPORTS".
I love my school but i will not depend them kung may mali silang nagawa...from the very start hindi ko po pinag tanggol ang PCU kahit pa loyal ako dito...ang pino point out ko lang noon pa, MAY MGA SCHOOL DIN NA GUMAWA NG GUSOT YUN NGA LANG HINDI NABUKO, KAYA NAKALUSOT..i will never depend PCU kung may mali sila then patunayan at isiwalat ang mga kalokohan and ibigay sa kanila kung ano man ang nararapat na kaparusahan.
Since napag uusapan na rin lang naman natin to...you can PM me with regards to the issues na sinasabi mo ma hindi lang sa basketball may mga nangyayaring kalokohan, you can give me the details and ako mismo ang mag rereklamo sa NCAA kung ano man ang mga iyon. Susulatan ko sila na gumawa ng ibang investigation tungkol sa mga tinutukoy mo...Wala itong selfish interest all our names will not be known by public.
LETS CONDEMN CHEATING IN ANY ASPECTS OF OUR SOCIETY.
Ok... These will be my replies.
first... mahirap naman atang sabihin na porket nag excel sila sa ibang sports eh pati dun eh nandaya na din sila...(ano ito politics, pag natalo nadaya?)...
That's why the investigation is still on going. The evidence is within the NCAA MANCOMM. Yung mga boxers natin na lumaban sa SEA games na sumigaw na nadaya...eh related din ba sa politics yung protesta nila? In fact I cannot recall of any school asking for a title won by PCU by the time MANCOMM reached their decision on suspending the later for fielding inligible players. With the rate things are going there are also athletes coming from different event that had some suspicious documents.
nyway ang sa akin lang po, kung alam ng friend mo at nalaman mo,,aba eh hindi malayong malaman din ng media iyan lalo pat mainit ang issue...i challenge you and your friend, kung may ebidensiya at kayang patunayan, hindi man siya kundi ang mga taong pwedeng mag imbestiga..HE SHOULD SPEAK OUT.KUNG TAKOT SIYA PWEDE SIYANG SUMULAT SA MEDIA AND ITAGO NALANG ANG PERSONALITY NIYA...ang sa akin lang KUNG TALAGANG NAGKASALA ANG PCU AT MAPATUNAYAN NA HINDI LANG SA BASKETBALL SILA NANDAYA..THEN THEY HAVE NO PLACE IN NCAA...hindi lang dapat suspension kundi sipain nalang sila....after all nawawalan ng saysay ang tinatawag nilang "SPORTS".
About my friend... well that's his decision and I can't speak in his behalf. In fact, I did not even post about his story on PCU's irregularity in recruiting players, until it was proven by MANCOMM that a handful players from your school have forged documents and switched identities. It was different back then and besides who would think a reputable school and a new kid in the block sa NCAA will commit in this such illegal tactics. The case of Importante and others are not publicized until NCAA made a presscon? For sure there are some talks or chismis inside the coliseum, pero di pa papatulan iyan ng media. Until time comes and proven that PCU indeed fielded overqualified players. About your challenge, well the case is currently investigated by the NCAA MANCOMM. Don't worry the players just spoke and have their statement documented about the irregularities. Mas maiging mangaling sa mga players involved rather sa isang miron ang kalokohang ginagawa ng mga tiwaling officials dahil sila ang mas kapaniwaniwala.
Sa iyo na rin nangaling wala silang lugar sa NCAA kung mapatunayan na nagkasala. If that's the case, why the NCAA extend their suspension for another year and put them under probation? Looking at La Salle, they served one year suspension for fielding 2 ineligible players in basketball event. I wonder why PCU will serve another year of suspension on all NCAA events. Could it be because MANCOMM found out that it also happened in some of the NCAA events or because majority of their basketball team had tampered their documents? I really don't know if PCU will be booted out dahil dito sa mga pinagagawa ng mga erring officials nila.
LuMbErJaCk
May 1, 2008, 09:10 AM
May 1 na! wala pa rin bang balita? anyway hindi na ako umaasang makakabalik pa..
DonLabaro
May 2, 2008, 01:46 PM
sayang kung hindi makakasali PCU... the NCAA missed the presence of one of the most talented, if not the most, point guards in collegiate basketball... no one else but Jason Castro... I don't think anyone from any collegiate league could match him... He is the Sam Ekwe of collegiate point guards today!
King_neroj
May 3, 2008, 12:13 AM
Slingers sign up Castro
POINT guard Jason Castro of the leading amateur team Harbour Centre became the first Filipino to sign up with a team in Australia’s National Basketball League.
Castro signed up with the first Asia-based club in the NBL—the Singapore Slingers—after the team’s managing director Bob Turner and operations manager Michael Johns flew to Manila and finalized a deal. The team had been pursuing the 2006 and 2007 Most Valuable Player of the Philippine Basketball League for some time before they finally nailed it down.
“When we saw Jason last year [in Singapore], we knew he was the one we were looking for. We really worked hard to find a talent from the region and we were not surprised that we found him here in the Philippines.”
The acquisition of Castro, regarded as a smart marketing move, is certain to add to the team’s following due to the large Filipino community in Singapore.
“This is a great moment for Singapore, a great moment for Philippine basketball and great for Jason,” said Turner. Ronnie Nathanielsz
iyurts
May 3, 2008, 09:13 AM
Wow Astig Jason Castro
Ala8n
May 29, 2008, 10:36 AM
Sa friday kaya payagan mag laro ang PCU Dolphins this 2008-2009 season pero suspended for 2009-2010 dahil sa bagong problema sa 2006 baby Dolphins players ng NCAA Mancom?
Possible ito kasi para complete ang member teams sa current ncaa 2008-2009. At dahil kay Castro at Belga na last chance this year makalaro bago mag pro?
Nag intay din si Jason Castro siguro ng final decision sa status ng PCU this year bago mag decide sa bagong offer ng Singapore NBL team ng Australia?
Yan ang post ko nung last month, partly tama at masaya ako makabalik ang PCU Srs. this season. Si Belga babalik pa mag apply sa draft while leading the Dolphins ncaa 84, minus na si Castro sa Australia mag import.
Voluntary na wala ang PCU ncaa 2009-2010 pero again hula ko may papalit sa PCU pagdating ng 2009 so 8 member schools parin sa ncaa 09-2010. Pero may indication na mag 9 member schools nalang ncaa pag dating ng 2010-2011 kasama pcu at one new member school.. Again sana yan nga ang eventually mangyari after this season.. *okay*
Isa ang sigurado kung last game ng Dolphins ay elimination round or final four/finals? kung swerte talaga this season. All out support dapat ang pcu community sa dolphins and ncaa. Thank you sa NCAA and all its member schools see you sa araneta sa 29th of June!:)
spongklong
May 29, 2008, 01:22 PM
Yan ang post ko nung last month, partly tama at masaya ako makabalik ang PCU Srs. this season. Si Belga babalik pa mag apply sa draft while leading the Dolphins ncaa 84, minus na si Castro sa Australia mag import.
Voluntary na wala ang PCU ncaa 2009-2010 pero again hula ko may papalit sa PCU pagdating ng 2009 so 8 member schools parin sa ncaa 09-2010. Pero may indication na mag 9 member schools nalang ncaa pag dating ng 2010-2011 kasama pcu at one new member school.. Again sana yan nga ang eventually mangyari after this season.. *okay*
Isa ang sigurado kung last game ng Dolphins ay elimination round or final four/finals? kung swerte talaga this season. All out support dapat ang pcu community sa dolphins and ncaa. Thank you sa NCAA and all its member schools see you sa araneta sa 29th of June!:)
are you sure bout belga? last i heard, he's not going to play for PCU for his final year.
R@nd0m
May 29, 2008, 01:37 PM
The NCAA was just too in announcing this! Tuloy nag desisyon na si Jason Castro to play for Singapore!
another strong team sana yun PCU with Castro on it. PCU(speed and finesse) vs SAN BEDA(height and strength) ang sarap sana panuorin nito, lalo na now, Jason Castro's peaking.
Ala8n
May 29, 2008, 01:49 PM
are you sure bout belga? last i heard, he's not going to play for PCU for his final year.
Before lumabas yun suspension talks nung march both belga at castro would play sa 84th ncaa. Si Castro pro na kaya wala na siya talaga, with belga 5th year nya and 22-23 age niya so kahit mag apply ng draft si Belga pwede pa maglaro sa pcu.
Unless personally he would rather sit out his last year and not play for pcu? But most of time with ncaa players joining the pba draft they still play like najorda, aban etc..
alam naman natin hindi tulad ng uaap may chance pa maglaro ng last year ncaa players sa school nila kahit draft prospects na sila. Mas maganda siguro sa isang ncaa player like belga to play para pansin din siya ng teams sa pro lalo kung maganda ang pakita niya.:)
theo78
May 29, 2008, 02:10 PM
belga is playing...jason is not...he is going to sydney on july 1...
Bahay_Kubo
May 29, 2008, 09:00 PM
kailangan muna talagang kumita ng NCAA kaya meron nitong "Killing Me Softly" decision na ito against PCU. :naughty:
Get_Blazed
May 29, 2008, 09:36 PM
PCU allowed a graceful exit
Waylon Galvez
The National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) Policy Board and the management of Philippine Christian University (PCU) reached an agreement that will allow the Taft-based school to rejoin the league this season but take an "indefinite" leave of absence next year.
This was announced in a joint statement by the Policy Board and the NCAA Management Committee (MANCOM) yesterday following a meeting late Monday held at the Casino Español, Manila.
"Philippine Christian University will play in the forthcoming 84th Season of the league," the NCAA stated.
"At the end of the season, however, PCU is voluntarily taking an indefinite leave of absence with the agreement of the Policy Board."
The NCAA decision ended a two-month negotiation between league officials, from past president Vincent Fabella of JRU and current board head Rey Vea of season host Mapua, and PCU president Dr. Oscar Suarez.
It also scrapped the earlier recommendation of a committee that investigated the issue of suspending PCU again for the second straight season and have the Dolphins serve a three-year probation starting 2009.
"That’s basically what happened, with PCU volunteering to take an indefinite leave of absence, the NCAA scrapped the recommendation," NCAA spokesperson Henry Atayde of St. Benilde said.
"The NCAA will always allow the schools to police their ranks, to decide on their own," Atayde said.
PCU will only compete in all the senior’s sports events.
The NCAA will start with its basketball tournament on June 28 at the Araneta Coliseum.
Atayde said it’s up for PCU if and when it decides to comeback, but it has to go through the process of re-applying again.
"They have to re-apply, that’s the essence of "indefinite" leave of absence," Atayde said.
He mentioned the case of former NCAA member Trinity College, saying: "When Trinity left, they filed an "indefinite" leave of absence. Now they want to comeback and are reapplying. The same goes for PCU."
Nevertheless, the return of PCU in the NCAA will be good, said Atayde.
"This is good for all, good for the NCAA. I think the field is competitive. What’s more important is that there are no hard feelings," Atayde said.
PCU will have full privilege as regular member.
Suarez will have his seat back as member of the Policy Board and the Dolphins will have a new member to the MANCOM in acting athletic director Art Alombro.
"We’re happy that the NCAA gave us a chance (to comeback). After that, we’ll try our best to comply with the requirements and clean our area," Alombro said. "We kept training our players, hoping this time will come. Palaban naman kami."
Scheduling of game won’t be a problem, according to MANCOM chair Ding Lozano of Mapua as he prepared two separate programs, one with PCU in the roster of participants and the other without.
"Even from the beginning of the month (May), there’s really no problem with the scheduling. We programmed it already," Lozano said.
PCU was suspended last season after one of its high school basketball players, Jaypee Importante, whose real name is Vincent King, was found guilty of falsifying his documents to gain entry to PCU three years ago.
The investigation led to more verification that others also committed falsification of documents, including Victor Miguel Oliveros, Jundell Navaja, James De Gano and Elvin Jake Pascual.
Importante, Oliveros, Navaja and De Gano were banned in the NCAA, while the MANCOM will decide on Pascual, a reserve player for two-time champion San Beda College, during its eligibility meeting on June 10.
Atayde also clarified that the NCAA will not accept applicants at the moment to fill the spot of PCU next season.
"No, we’ll not accept. It will be unfair to PCU to entertain applicants. Maybe, after the basketball season," he said. "And why not try nine teams. What’s one more school? We’ll adjust the schedule."
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