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SAMSAY
Jan 10, 2008, 05:09 PM
short course po ba ito??
saan ba pwede mag aaral nito na malapit sa quezon city, kung sa fairview mas maganda
ano ano ba requirements para makapagaral nito
KuyaDanny
Jan 10, 2008, 05:24 PM
I think the law requires you to earn a bachelor's degree (at least a four-year course) in pharmacy and to pass a board exam. So it's not a short course at all.
paralusi
Jan 10, 2008, 05:45 PM
just keep in mind that not everyone who works in your neighborhood botica, is a pharmacist.
la_flash
Jan 10, 2008, 05:55 PM
Maybe the TS was talking about those ladies and gentlemen in white serving customers in Mercury Drugstores.
I believe that they need not be licensed pharmacists, am I right? I believe that they are called pharmacist-assistants or whatever... :D
KuyaDanny
Jan 10, 2008, 06:34 PM
I think there's at least one licensed pharmacist in each store. But yes, most of those boys ang girls are pharmacy assistants, and I notice them actually prescribing drugs to just about anyone who asks. :(
KuyaDanny
Jan 10, 2008, 06:39 PM
Re: Pharmacy Assistants
http://i8.tinypic.com/6je9z6r.jpg
Apparently, a college degree is required. Still not a short course.
kalteck
Jan 11, 2008, 02:08 AM
This course is one of the highest paying job in the US and Europe. A license Pharmacist earns up to $130K to $150K/per annum. You must be good in math and advance chemistry if you are to take this. UP Manila offers a 4 year BS Pharmacy and a 5 year BS Industrial Pharmacy (the tougher one-because the Math series is almost like the engineering courses). You will love this course- because of the pay and benefits.
SAMSAY
Jan 11, 2008, 04:54 AM
salamat sa reply
parang nursing din pala
kasi indemand din daw to sa US tsaka kasing laki din ng sweldo
try ko kaya ito? o mag caregiver na *** kaya ako? kaso hindi naman daw indemand sa US yung caregiver
advice naman po
ano po bang short course na indemand sa US?
pouter
Jan 12, 2008, 01:12 PM
To be a pharmacist, you have to finish at least a 4 year program. Each pharmacy is required to be supervised by at least one pharmacist. Those people in mercury drug taking your orders are the clerks. They are college grads but are not reg pharmacists...
Working abroad? Well, pharmacists are the 3rd highest paid profs in the US, next to doctors and lawyers (yeah, they are paid so much more than a NURSE). The only problem is that if you're a graduate of a 4 year program here in the PHIL, you are not qualified to take the state board. Additional units should be taken there in the US, should you decide to work as a pharmacist. Same goes if you're planning to work in Canada... Not sure about australia & europe though...
caregiver? i know a lot of people who went to the states and worked as a caregiver without finishing any short courses here. you could work as a caregiver there given the connections...
Pharmaboi
Jan 12, 2008, 08:50 PM
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
costumer1: ano po yung gamot sa ubo?
Pharmacy Clerk: nanunuyo ba ubo mo?
customer1: medyo may plema po at masakit po lalamunan ko.
Pharmacy Clerk: ok,i-try mo itong Augmentin.
customer1: ito rin po yung gamot ko sa pigsa. Ok lang po ba yun?
Pharmacy Clerk: oo naman, baka may ubo ka dahil sa pigsa.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
_SCUD_
Jan 12, 2008, 10:41 PM
TS
Pwede ka rin naman mag-caregiver muna sa Canada (kung may sponsor), pag matapos na ang kontrata mo in 2 yrs. pwede ka na maging immigrant at mag-aral kahit anong kurso o short programs ang gusto mo.
Pwede ka kumuha ng Pharmacy Assistant o Pharmacy Technician programs dito kahit hindi ka college graduate dyan.
DavidAames
Jan 17, 2008, 04:45 AM
naku... boring na maging pharmacist... but surely it is one of the highest paid professions in the US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand... you should get a 4 year bachelors degree... from CEU, UST, UP, Fatima, EAC, etc... you can apply as a 2nd degree if you like... these schools accept 2nd degree applicants...
shellfish
Jan 18, 2008, 01:17 AM
question lang: kahit pharmacy grad ka sa phils (4 yr course and licensed) di pa rin qualified to take the state board sa U.S.? kala ko kasi pag na-evaluate ang BS degree mo by a reputable evaluation service company sa u.s. ok na yun? nagtatanong lang po. thanks.
kalteck
Jan 24, 2008, 02:22 AM
This is what I know 12 years ago. If you are a foreign graduate of Pharmacy from India, Philippines , South Africa ,Canada or Australia you have to pass the
FPGEE Equivalency Exam parang NCLEX sa Nursing graduate. After you passed you have to take training hours as a training assistant from any Pharmacy Professionals in hospital or drug stores then take the Professional Exam for Pharmacist.The training is usually a year in preparation for the board exam. If you passed this , then you are now a licensed Pharmacist. Rules vary from State to State in the US.
I dont know the rules now but you can always google the requirements. Usually a licensed Pharmacist in the US is a Doctor of Pharmacy.:)
DavidAames
Jan 24, 2008, 08:20 AM
i dont think so shelfish... graduates of BS Pharm after 2003 should finnish either PharmD or a 5 year BS Pharmacy or needs an MSPharm... ask the FPGEE of the US
Pharmaboi
Jan 24, 2008, 10:02 AM
Kahit Pharmacy Doctor [CEU] or 5 year Industrial Pharmacy grad [UP manila] ka, you can't take the equivalent state board in the US. Kaya ang UST last year, nag introduced sila ng 5 year program which is based from US curriculum.
In the US, the pharmacy practice is more on clinical approach. Iyan ang kulang sa mga curriculum ng CEU,UP and UST. Pero sabi ni Dean Torres of UST Faculty of Pharmacy, with their new curriculum, they will teach more on clinical and hospital pharmacy.
shellfish
Jan 24, 2008, 11:31 PM
thank you sa lahat ng mga nag-respond (kalteck, david and pharmaboi). at least nagkaron ako ng konting idea. it's for my sister, actually.
kalteck
Jan 25, 2008, 12:58 AM
Let me make this clear, you have to take two exams - the FPGEE for foreign pharmacy graduates from (India,Canada, Philippines, Singapore etc). After you passed this you have to be an INTERN to any hospital or Pharmacy Store/company and take the second board exam for the Pharmacy license. As an intern you have a higher salary than the Pharmacy Tech. If you passed this ,then you are now a licensed Pharmacist. We are a living example of this and 5 of my friends took this path. Rules may change now. No harm in trying . Good luck to you all. :) Higher concentration on Clinical pharmacy for the board exam helps.
geekhead
Jan 25, 2008, 10:53 AM
I think kailangan na yata ng PharmD ngayon para mag practice sa US. Kaya karamihan ng mga Pharmacists, sa Canada or Australia pumupunta.
Kahit ba PharmD sa CEU, hindi pwede? Ganito description nila:
Doctor of Pharmacy (Pharm.D.) (Makati Campus) - A 2-year postbaccalaureate course leading to Doctor of Pharmacy. Completion of 52 units of formal course work and 36 units of pharmacy practice experience in clinical setting on rotation sites. (Qualifications and Requirements) The clinical practice experiences is done at Makati Medical Center.
Sa UST ngayon, PharmD na ba or BS Pharm pa rin? Anong mga options ng mga 4-year BS Pharmacy grad na gustong mga practice sa USA?
Pharmaboi
Jan 25, 2008, 01:51 PM
Yung 2 year extention ng CEU sa Pharmacy eh hindi accredited sa US. Pinabango lang yung pangalan. Hehehehe. Sa UST, BS Pharmacy pa rin but the curriculum is based on US curriculum. Historically, Pharmacy in the Philippines was really a 5 year course . It was until 1988 that some schools shortened it.
wochiuZ009
Jan 27, 2008, 09:08 AM
pharmacy :wow: *surprised*
DavidAames
Jan 28, 2008, 08:30 AM
yeah hindi accredited ang PharmD ng CEU. nor UPM's BS Indus Pharm...mga graduates ng 2003 and on must have a 5 year degree from an accredited university by the FPGEE... ang malas ko 2004 grad ako...hehehe... di bale may australia, canada and new zealand pa naman guys!
kalteck
Jan 29, 2008, 02:27 AM
So the cut off year is 2003. Even on Dentistry the rules were changed too. The only advice I could give to those who want to work in the US is to to take an MS and PHD (2-3 years ) in a US university for accreditation then take the 2 licensing exams.Parang review na rin yan.
Expensive but its worth it.Good luck to all.Kung gusto may paraan.
shellfish
Jan 29, 2008, 11:48 PM
After you passed this you have to be an INTERN to any hospital or Pharmacy Store/company and take the second board exam for the Pharmacy license.
so hindi pwedeng direcho 2nd exam agad? talagang dapat nag-i-intern ka rin? federal law ba yan or it differs depending on the state? thanks ulit!
kalteck
Jan 31, 2008, 12:42 AM
After you passed the FPGEE for foreign graduates you have to be an INTERN Pharmacist to get the required hours (review ka na rin for the final board exam for Pharmacist). US graduates had these in their school curriculum thus they have one exam only.Most are Dr of Pharmacy already. CA, Texas and New York have these. If you passed the California Board it is usually accredited by all states. Parating mahirap ang California Board- Engineering to Law.Good Luck to you. Verify the cut off year of 2003. This is a subtle form of discrimination following Canada 's ways -IMHO ko lang.
bangus
Sep 25, 2008, 09:03 PM
Doctor of Pharmacy course sa pinas ay di masyadong comprehensive. Its because growing palang talaga ang clinical pharmacy sa pinas. Possible na hindi eligible ang Pharmd sa ngyon. But if you will look at the trend since wala ng BS Pharmacy sa US at puro PharmD na ay malamang in next decade ay magiging requirement na ito. If not advantage mo paren sa job offers kasi mas mataas ka kesa sa BS. :rotflmao::rotflmao:
I found a great blog sa net. maybe you can check it out. pinoypharmacy(dot)blogspot(dot)com
banz3408
Nov 29, 2008, 10:42 PM
Yung 2 year extention ng CEU sa Pharmacy eh hindi accredited sa US. Pinabango lang yung pangalan. Hehehehe. Sa UST, BS Pharmacy pa rin but the curriculum is based on US curriculum. Historically, Pharmacy in the Philippines was really a 5 year course . It was until 1988 that some schools shortened it.
ahehehe. nag-aaral ako sa CEU ngayon. lilinawin ko lang po tungkol sa pharm D na yan. kasi graduating na po ako ngayon, so may ni offer sila na ladderized course sa aming batch na pwede kami deretcho sa pharm D so bali 1 year pa, tapos take ng board exam muna bago clinical practice sa makati med. kasi kailangan hawak mo license mo para makapractice ka dun. madami kaming nag tanong sa dean namin, tungkol sa PharmD na yan. kasi ang alam ng madami, PharmD lang ang kailangan, eligible ka na mag take ng state boards sa ibang bansa. kaso hindi daw ganun sabi sa amin, kung ganun daw, sana nilagay daw nila na yun ang isang + factor of taking PharmD. ganito po pagka explain niya sa amin. Noon daw, basta nasa 5 years yung curriculum mo, eligible ka na mag take ng board exam. tapos tinangal na yun ng state board examiner. ngayon, nag hanap ng ibang solution mga tao, nag take naman ng MS in Pharmacy. so lusot nanaman sila, madami nuon nag take ng MS kasi pwede na mag abroad. tapos recently, sabi ng dean namin, hindi na daw pwede or sobrang hirap na makapasok kapag MS lang. may sinabi siyang dahilan kung bakit ganun nangyari sa policy nila, kasi since medyo active dean namin sa international organizations, nakakalakbay siya sa ibang bansa para mag observe. ang isang napansin niya, kakaunti ang nag aaral dun ng Pharm D course. kasi ang laki laki daw ng buildings nila pero kaunti lang enrollees. so sa tingin niya, kung tatangap lang ang states ng galing sa ibang bansa na PharmD na, papaano na ang education nila dun na Pharm D. e di mas lalo bumaba enrollees. so sabi niya, ang gusto daw ng US, at para sure din na maging registered pharmacists ka dun. isa lang daw sa ngayon ang paraan: Mag enroll ka ng Pharm D sa kanila dun mo ituloy ang course mo. sabi ng dean namin, kahit anong angat daw ng kalidad ng education sa pinas, kung ayaw talaga magpapasok ng isang bansa ng professionals, e wala daw silang magagawa. at sabi niya sa amin, di naman daw siya naghahasa ng pharmD's para lang sa ibang bansa. since masyado mabagal ang progress ng pharma dito sa atin, siya na nag initiate na magbukas ng pharm d dito. para naman mag-improve ang patient oriented care sa bansa. at sabi niya sa amin, WALANG school pa sa philippines, kahit na buong 6 years mo e puro clinical approach, ang accredited sa ibang bansa. naghihintay pa din sila ng recognition na mukhang impossible daw. ok naman ang practice ng Pharm D dito sa pinas e, at least doc na din ang tawag ***^^. yun nga lang, konti pa lang ang MD na tumatanggap sa vital role ng PharmD's sa ikabubuti ng buhay ng pasyente. pero medyo madami na din daw ang tumatanggap sa existence nila dito. at sa tingin ko, balang araw, madami na din kukuha ng course na ito. isa pa pala, sabi ng dean namin, di daw sumagip sa isip niya na i abolish ang BSPharm na curriculum(4 years), so sa kanya, baka tatagal pa ito. kasi sa hirap daw ba naman ng buhay ngayon, pipilitin mo pang mag-aral ang estudyante at mapapamahal pa tuition. yun lang po^^
cholinergic
Feb 7, 2009, 11:13 AM
maganda ang pharmacy kasi may possible na trabaho ka rito may possible ka rin na trabaho sa abroad, hindi sya masyadong crowded. Maganda rin ang clinical pharmacy kaso iilan pa lang hospital ang nagprapractice ng ganon dito.
(Congrats nga pala sa newly pharmacist ngayon specially sa mga taga- OLFU)
cholinergic
Feb 7, 2009, 08:05 PM
OLFU Valenzuela is near quezon city they also offer BS Pharmacy, 4 years na silang 100% sa Board exam second sila sa UP.
nancyerlinda
Feb 11, 2009, 09:01 AM
salamat sa reply
parang nursing din pala
kasi indemand din daw to sa US tsaka kasing laki din ng sweldo
try ko kaya ito? o mag caregiver na *** kaya ako? kaso hindi naman daw indemand sa US yung caregiver
advice naman po
ano po bang short course na indemand sa US?
Nursing is the course needed here in North America.
arch23
Feb 11, 2009, 02:37 PM
Pharmacy graduates of Philippine schools can't take the US board exam right away NOT because the education is inferior or there is something wrong with the curriculum. It is because of the INTERNSHIP requirement which the graduate has to take IN THE U.S. Once this requirement has been fulfilled and whatever other related documents have been filed, the graduate may now take the U.S. board exam. While always helpful, earning a master's or a doctorate is not necessary to be able to take the exam.
xUPteach
Feb 12, 2009, 05:24 AM
yeah hindi accredited ang PharmD ng CEU. nor UPM's BS Indus Pharm...mga graduates ng 2003 and on must have a 5 year degree from an accredited university by the FPGEE... ang malas ko 2004 grad ako...hehehe... di bale may australia, canada and new zealand pa naman guys!
In the U.S., while ACPA acreditation is desired, it is NOT necessary for graduates of foreign institutions. Such graduates just need to have completed a 5-yr program in their respective countries (effective for graduates of 2003 and later; those who earned pharmacy degrees before 2003 are still ELIGIBLE even with their 4-year degrees), do the internship hours (varies by state), and pass the exam/s (varies by state) before applying for a license.
alexis_skeet
Feb 12, 2009, 05:39 PM
TS, you might want to check out this links just to give you an idea of the subjects you will have to study.
http://www.upm.edu.ph/cp/BSP%20Catalog.htm
http:
//www.upm.edu.ph/cp/BSIP%20Curriculum.htm (http://www.upm.edu.ph/cp/BSIP%20Curriculum.htm)
thank you to all those who replied. Gave me an idea what to try out for. I just want to ask those who took FPGEE mataas ba ang passing rate ng mga pinoy who took this. Im torn between taking PBEC or this one.
ChicagoPinoy
Feb 13, 2009, 05:55 AM
For those who are interested to know the NAPLEX and FPGEE results please check it here. This data is only for California.
http://www.pharmacy.ca.gov/publications/0408_0908_stats.pdf
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