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udo_draco

Dec 25, 2007, 01:37 AM

I'm interested to know what happened to your school's summa cum laude's after graduation. Did they become successful? Where are they now? Let's hear your stories about them.

hahahaok

Dec 26, 2007, 06:15 AM

cretinous00

Dec 26, 2007, 07:12 AM

One's a fulltime housewife with four kids.

shakespeare_01

Dec 26, 2007, 09:33 AM

Si Francis Paraan ba yun? Yung gwapong summa cum laude? Pinagpatuloy n'ya ata 'yung studied n'ya sa ibang bansa...

philippines123

Dec 26, 2007, 11:57 AM

Yup, nasa Italy na si Fafa Francis... mukha na nga syang nerd don... ampanget tuloy... pero nagpagupit na ata recently din baka pumogi na uli.

Si Juan Paolo Asis... alam ko MS Student din sya... baka graduate na ngayon...

Si May Lim (1999 o 2000 Summa) nasa UP pa ata... Physics Prof... MS at PhD nya sa UP alam ko puro 1.00 grades nya.

philippines123

Dec 26, 2007, 12:14 PM

Update lang kay Francis... just checked his friendster.... at talagang inilagay nya ang link ng kanyang CV doon... di naman ako medyo nalula...

1.196 undergrad summa cum laude
1.03 GWA MS Physics
860 ang score nya sa GRE-Physics
800 GRE quantitative
pati yung TOEFL scores nya andun
Pati mga publications nya andun... hahahahahah

di naman masyado ipinagyayabang... ako din... kapag maganda na CV ko ilalagay ko rin sa friendster ko lahat ng achievements ko.

=)

physicist

Dec 26, 2007, 12:57 PM

Hmmm... eto ang dalawang kilala kong Summa. The first one is a good friend of mine, and former student. The second one is a friend of my wife. :)

Reinabelle Reyes, BS Physics 2005, Ateneo de Manila
GRE Physics -- 890
Currently PhD student at the Department of Astrophysical Sciences, Princeton University

Kendra Castillo, BS Physics 2004, Ateneo de Manila
2004 Class Valedictorian
Currently PhD student at the Department of Earth and Atmospheric Science, Purdue University

I presume na 800 ang quantitative GRE scores nila. Wala pa akong kilalang physics grad student na hindi naka-790 o 800 sa quantitative GRE. :)

_ozzakii

Dec 26, 2007, 01:30 PM

Yung first na summa cum laude ng computer science ng UP Diliman noong 2002 or 2003 ba yon? He went to Oxford University as a Shell Scholar. Magkakasam kami tuwing merong bbq party noon. Tapos biglang nawala kasi nag intern sa World Bank. No news where he is now.

Yung summa cum laude ng Economics sa UPD 2 years ago na valedictorian din ng La Salle Greenhills ay magtatapos na ng master's sa Math sa UPD rin. He just got his acceptance letter from Harvard, Chicago, Princeton, Berkeley and MIT for Master's in Economics program.

Meron kong kilala na summa ng Adamson University. Naging Shell Scolar ng Cambridge at ngyon magtatapos na ng kanyang PhD sa Imperial College London. Nag turo din siya dun ngayon.

Meron din akong kilala, walang natapos pero multi millionaire. :lol:

rave81

Dec 26, 2007, 02:01 PM

in Maccas or call centre

_ozzakii

Dec 26, 2007, 04:19 PM

Hmmm... eto ang dalawang kilala kong Summa. The first one is a good friend of mine, and former student. The second one is a friend of my wife. :)

Reinabelle Reyes, BS Physics 2005, Ateneo de Manila
GRE Physics -- 890
Currently PhD student at the Department of Astrophysical Sciences, Princeton University

Ba't naging summa sya ng Ateneo samantalang naging classmate ko pa siya UP Diliman noon.

Siya yung galing Pisay diba?

I presume na 800 ang quantitative GRE scores nila. Wala pa akong kilalang physics grad student na hindi naka-790 o 800 sa quantitative GRE. :)

lucky your freinds pero depende rin sa review yan.

great2find

Dec 26, 2007, 05:07 PM

Whatever... THE POSSIBILITIES ARE BOUNDLESS...

udo_draco

Dec 26, 2007, 05:08 PM

intarkid pala si francis paraan

Myst

Dec 26, 2007, 06:17 PM

nag suicide...

Kolmogorov

Dec 26, 2007, 08:26 PM

Theresa Licaros --->> UP Summa, Miss Philippines Universe 2007, UP Law student

Micaela Fudolig --->> BS Physics, MS Student UP NIP

I really wanted to hear about the two summa's from UP EEE batch 2005..

sino yung isa pang summa cum laude ng batch 2005? eh di ba si Asis lang yun?

Anyway, WYant Chan, the first ECE summa cum laude from UP (who also belongs to the first graduating batch of the ECE program) is now working as a design engineer in the US after finishing his MS in Stranford. He is married to Minette Alexandra Sy (UP ECE magna cum laude, anak ng may-ari ng Alexan)

Yung isa pang EEE summa, si Goldie Lim (batch 2000) ay nasa P&G pa rin yata. She's 3 batches higher than me. Naalala ko dati pag pumapasok sa school ito mahilig siya magsuot ng maiksing shorts!

fattybearyus

Dec 26, 2007, 08:48 PM

The questions are, Babalik pa ba sila pag nakakuha na sila ng PhD nila or pag maganda na ang buhay nila sa ibang bansa? Tutulong pa ba sila sa bansang unang nagpalaki sa kanila?

physicist

Dec 26, 2007, 11:55 PM

Ba't naging summa sya ng Ateneo samantalang naging classmate ko pa siya UP Diliman noon.

Siya yung galing Pisay diba?

Huh? :confused: That's just impossible. You're either confused or outrightly lying.

Reina came to ADMU as a freshman physics major. (She was the valedictorian of Pisay). She was my student as a sophomore and junior.

Kendra on the other hand moved to Ateneo from UP. I'm still not sure why though. But she left UP with a Summa standing anyway.

lucky your freinds pero depende rin sa review yan.

You must be kidding. Nobody in physics seriously reviews for the quantitative GREs. 800 din ang quantitative GRE ko, and I didn't review that part at all. I tried out the practice tests in the CD that they sent and realized that it was gonna be a piece of cake. I was right!

I seriously studied for the verbal GRE though, getting a 640 in the end.

Physics majors generally review for the subject GRE.

jj9527

Dec 27, 2007, 04:00 AM

Francisco Sandejas, BS Applied Physics 1989 (summa cum laude), UP Diliman. MS and PhD Physics, Stanford University. Asawa ni Christine Jacob. Businessman. Inventor. Astig.

Liz Beth De Padua, BS Biology 1976 (summa cum laude), UP Diliman. Doctor of Medicine, UP PGH. Bb. Pilipinas Universe 1976. Dr. de Padua received her neurology training at Temple University Hospital in Philadelphia followed by her epilepsy fellowship training at MINCEP Epilepsy Care in 1988. Prior to joining the staff at MINCEP in 2007, Dr. de Padua was Medical Director of Mid-America Brain and Stroke Institute's Comprehensive Epilepsy Program in Kansas City, Missouri. Dr. de Padua sees adolescents and adults seizures and seizure-like episodes. MINCEP is a Level 4 medical and surgical epilepsy center in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Dr. De Padua practices Neurology and Psychiatry in Overland Park, Kansas, and Kansas City, Missouri. Dr. Lizbeth De Padua graduated with an MD. Astig.

Carolina Hau, BA English (Creative Writing) 1989. summa cum laude. MA, PhD English, Cornell University. Professor at the University of Kyoto, Japan. Astig.

frwwxx

Dec 28, 2007, 06:26 AM

Ba't naging summa sya ng Ateneo samantalang naging classmate ko pa siya UP Diliman noon.

Siya yung galing Pisay diba?

lucky your freinds pero depende rin sa review yan.

Oo galing si Kendra Castillo ng Pisay, Salutatorian sya. Batch 1999 ata.
Yung valedictorian ng Pisay batch 1999 si Adrian Solis, napunta sa Massachusetts Institute of Technology :eek:

Si Kendra nag UP diliman (1 year), pero lumipat naman sa Ateneo

ewan ko kung bakit, maganda naman sa NIP..

hahahaok

Dec 28, 2007, 07:14 AM

sino yung isa pang summa cum laude ng batch 2005? eh di ba si Asis lang yun?

Anyway, WYant Chan, the first ECE summa cum laude from UP (who also belongs to the first graduating batch of the ECE program) is now working as a design engineer in the US after finishing his MS in Stranford. He is married to Minette Alexandra Sy (UP ECE magna cum laude, anak ng may-ari ng Alexan)

Yung isa pang EEE summa, si Goldie Lim (batch 2000) ay nasa P&G pa rin yata. She's 3 batches higher than me. Naalala ko dati pag pumapasok sa school ito mahilig siya magsuot ng maiksing shorts!

Oo nga, parang si Asis lang yon. Limot ko na kasi. Sino ba yung kasama niyang awardee ata yun related to student projects? Hindi ba siya Summa? Or siguro nga Magna.

Aleancelo

Dec 28, 2007, 12:15 PM

sino yung isa pang summa cum laude ng batch 2005? eh di ba si Asis lang yun?

Anyway, WYant Chan, the first ECE summa cum laude from UP (who also belongs to the first graduating batch of the ECE program) is now working as a design engineer in the US after finishing his MS in Stranford. He is married to Minette Alexandra Sy (UP ECE magna cum laude, anak ng may-ari ng Alexan)

Another case of brain drain in the Philippines.:depressed: Sayang na sayang. They could have contributed a lot to the Philippines. But the country is losing its best minds to First World countries.

purpleheadd07

Dec 29, 2007, 12:59 AM

ours is now a Jesuit brother :D

clawed_out

Dec 29, 2007, 11:52 AM

nagtanan...

matalino nga. mahina naman pagdatng sa usapang puso...

HARE

Dec 30, 2007, 10:38 AM

My cousin is a Summa in her AB degree...tapos nag nursing sa Fatima..seriously...

_ozzakii

Dec 30, 2007, 11:18 PM

Huh? :confused: That's just impossible. You're either confused or outrightly lying.

Reina came to ADMU as a freshman physics major. (She was the valedictorian of Pisay). She was my student as a sophomore and junior.

Kendra on the other hand moved to Ateneo from UP. I'm still not sure why though. But she left UP with a Summa standing anyway.

I actually got two possible answers for that: 1.) I got confused b/c that was more than 5/6(?) years ago and 2.) I have forgotten her name though I can still remember the face.

[quote]
You must be kidding. Nobody in physics seriously reviews for the quantitative GREs.[/B] 800 din ang quantitative GRE ko, and I didn't review that part at all. I tried out the practice tests in the CD that they sent and realized that it was gonna be a piece of cake. I was right! [QUOTE]

I missed that part when you emphasized that the subjects were all relevant to you, which in that case, cannot be argued.

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On Topic:

Any top Philippine school can actually produce SCLs. As a matter of fact, UP Diliman, said to have the toughest curricula in the land, produces an average of 10 SCLs annually, for the last 10 years or so. And while we adulate these SCLs for their lofty accomplishments that only a select few have ever achieved, there are also students who did not graduate with SCL but have achieved consequential accomplishments that deserve equal acknowledgement as well.

Most of you here have probably not heard of the Gates Cambridge Scholarship. http://trust.gatesscholar.org/ To give you a background of this scholarship, the Gates Cambridge Scholarship is probably the most famous and most prestigious scholarship anywhere in the world, after Rhodes (of Oxford). The awards are given only to exceptionally talented graduates with strong leadership qualities and a genuine desire to use their knowledge to contribute to society throughout the world. Only the best of the best in the world will win the Gates and US schools herald graduates who win this award.

Historically, this Scholarship is dominated by elite US schools with Harvard, Princeton, Yale and Stanford being the largest producers of talents as they are also the largest producers for the Rhodes (Oxford) awards. In 2004/2005, however, a Filipino by the name of Joseph Lim won this award making him the first Filipino ever and one of only two Southeast Asians to have won this at that time. Joseph Lim is a proud graduate of the University of the Philippines (BS Biology) and De La Salle University (Doctor of Medicine). Dr. Lim studies PhD in Pharmacology at Selwyn College, University of Cambridge. The other Southeast Asian was from Nanyang.

The following year (2005/2006), another UP graduate by the name of Ramon Maluping (BS Molecular Biology and Biotechnology) miraculously won the Gates Cambridge Scholarship again, making UP the first university in Southeast Asia that have produced 2 Gates Cambridge awardees. Dr. Maluping studies PhD in Veterinary Medicine (Molecular Microbiology) at Sidney Sussex College, University of Cambridge.

There are only 3 Filipinos that have won the Gates Cambridge award so far. The other Filipino, rather Filipina, to be precise, to have won this is Amparo Flores. She earned her undergrad in environmental engineering science from UC Berkeley in 1996. http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2006/02/16_gatesscholars.shtml

maroon_spinoza

Dec 31, 2007, 02:20 PM

OnT ba yang gates cambridge cheber na yan.

wala lang.

math_techie

Dec 31, 2007, 03:21 PM

^ 10 summa's a year...parang ang dami naman ata. Though I remember some years when there were 8 or 9 summas, pero 10 as an average...mukhang madami ata

Kolmogorov

Dec 31, 2007, 05:44 PM

^yep, hindi naman on the average ang 10 scl's a year sa UP

_ozzakii

Dec 31, 2007, 07:53 PM

OnT ba yang gates cambridge cheber na yan.

wala lang.

I know that I was not entirely on topic, but I wasn’t totally out of topic as well. When I delivered the Gates Cambridge news in a thread that talks about SCL (which I equated to pedagogic success BTW), I was, in fact, trying to say that I'd rather be a Gates Cambridge awardee and not a SCL than a SCL and not a Gates Cambridge awardee. Though being a SCL is a great triumph in its own right, I urge you to not totally disregard the fact that there are other graduates who have accomplished as much feat as those SCLs have. In fact, I would argue that there is more to being an elite graduate of the world than to being a SCL graduate (of whichever school), and the gratification achieved for being a Gates Cambridge awardee supersedes the pride and honor achieved for being a SCL graduate.

You're probably not that aware how prestigious and famous this award is but let me tell you this: there is so much pride and honor attached to winning this award, not just for the awardees themselves but for the entire country they represent as well. In fact, schools in other countries (US, Australia, Canada, NZ, Japan, to name a few) do often herald those graduates who won the Gates the moment the names are announced. And to give you an example how exceptionally valuable this award is, about 200 students graduate from Harvard University with SCL, another 500 will graduate with MCL and almost all the rest (91%) will graduate with latin honors. http://archives.cnn.com/2002/fyi/teachers.ednews/04/19/harvard.grade.inflation.ap/ However, only a handful of these exceptionally talented Harvard graduates will go on and win the Gates Cambridge (and Rhodes of Oxford) that is why those graduates that won the Gates were heralded by their respective school. http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/02.16/07-gates.html

Let us put it this way. The Philippines produces SCLs annually (with UP Diliman producing the most of them, about 10 annually) but the Philippines rarely produces a Gates Cambridge awardee (It only has two so far). And while these Gates Cambridge Filipino awardees were ignored by their respective alma mater schools (UP and DLSU) and home country (the Philippines), they were acknowledged by their fellow scholars to have abilities and talents that are at par with the best graduates from all corners of the globe. If you personally think that these two Gates Filipinos don’t deserve the recognition that they were deprived of by the Philippines for winning such a highly coveted award, then for me, you’re missing the right people whom recognition should be given to.

Happy New Year to everyone!

philippines123

Dec 31, 2007, 07:53 PM

_ozzakii

Dec 31, 2007, 08:03 PM

^ 10 summa's a year...parang ang dami naman ata. Though I remember some years when there were 8 or 9 summas, pero 10 as an average...mukhang madami ata

Naalala ko kasi palaging more than 10 SCL meron sa UP Diliman for the last 5-10 years. There were 12 SCLs last year and 15 a couple of years ago, though there were also years when it only had 9 SCLs. But I don’t exactly remember a drought year for UP Diliman. Nevertheless, baka nga my figure was an overestimate. In such case, gawin nating 7 SCL a year, on average, which is still commendable. This means that UP has the hoard of the best and most talented students in the country.

_ozzakii

Dec 31, 2007, 08:34 PM

Si May Lim (1999 o 2000 Summa) nasa UP pa ata... Physics Prof... MS at PhD nya sa UP alam ko puro 1.00 grades nya.

http://necsi.org/postdocs/lim/may_cv.html

bleep01

Dec 31, 2007, 08:59 PM

Margot Tan - BS Economics 2004 - Summa Cum laude. Brand Manager - Ponds, Unilever Philippines. Astig!:rotflmao:

_ozzakii

Dec 31, 2007, 10:19 PM

Yung first na summa cum laude ng computer science ng UP Diliman noong 2002 or 2003 ba yon? He went to Oxford University as a Shell Scholar. Magkakasam kami tuwing merong bbq party noon. Tapos biglang nawala kasi nag intern sa World Bank. No news where he is now.

http://www.shell.com/home/content/ph-en/news_and_library/press_releases/2004/scsf_filipinos_0922.html

altair

Dec 31, 2007, 11:55 PM

Another case of brain drain in the Philippines.:depressed: Sayang na sayang. They could have contributed a lot to the Philippines. But the country is losing its best minds to First World countries.

it's not really their fault.
the Philippine government just has no direction..

anyway, people like dr. francisco sandejas have this brain gain network that aims to bring talented Filipinos back to the Philippines

simmer

Jan 1, 2008, 03:15 AM

I actually got two possible answers for that: 1.) I got confused b/c that was more than 5/6(?) years ago and 2.) I have forgotten her name though I can still remember the face.

You must be kidding. Nobody in physics seriously reviews for the quantitative GREs.[/B] 800 din ang quantitative GRE ko, and I didn't review that part at all. I tried out the practice tests in the CD that they sent and realized that it was gonna be a piece of cake. I was right!

I missed that part when you emphasized that the subjects were all relevant to you, which in that case, cannot be argued.

*************************

On Topic:

Any top Philippine school can actually produce SCLs. As a matter of fact, UP Diliman, said to have the toughest curricula in the land, produces an average of 10 SCLs annually, for the last 10 years or so. And while we adulate these SCLs for their lofty accomplishments that only a select few have ever achieved, there are also students who did not graduate with SCL but have achieved consequential accomplishments that deserve equal acknowledgement as well.

Most of you here have probably not heard of the Gates Cambridge Scholarship. http://trust.gatesscholar.org/ To give you a background of this scholarship, the Gates Cambridge Scholarship is probably the most famous and most prestigious scholarship anywhere in the world, after Rhodes (of Oxford). The awards are given only to exceptionally talented graduates with strong leadership qualities and a genuine desire to use their knowledge to contribute to society throughout the world. Only the best of the best in the world will win the Gates and US schools herald graduates who win this award.

Historically, this Scholarship is dominated by elite US schools with Harvard, Princeton, Yale and Stanford being the largest producers of talents as they are also the largest producers for the Rhodes (Oxford) awards. In 2004/2005, however, a Filipino by the name of Joseph Lim won this award making him the first Filipino ever and one of only two Southeast Asians to have won this at that time. Joseph Lim is a proud graduate of the University of the Philippines (BS Biology) and De La Salle University (Doctor of Medicine). Dr. Lim studies PhD in Pharmacology at Selwyn College, University of Cambridge. The other Southeast Asian was from Nanyang.

The following year (2005/2006), another UP graduate by the name of Ramon Maluping (BS Molecular Biology and Biotechnology) miraculously won the Gates Cambridge Scholarship again, making UP the first university in Southeast Asia that have produced 2 Gates Cambridge awardees. Dr. Maluping studies PhD in Veterinary Medicine (Molecular Microbiology) at Sidney Sussex College, University of Cambridge.

There are only 3 Filipinos that have won the Gates Cambridge award so far. The other Filipino, rather Filipina, to be precise, to have won this is Amparo Flores. She earned her undergrad in environmental engineering science from UC Berkeley in 1996. http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2006/02/16_gatesscholars.shtml

si doc maluping teacher ko yan

p1215

Jan 1, 2008, 01:18 PM

Kung halos five-thousand ang graduates mo sa buong UP system, hindi na rin sobrang dami.

^ 10 summa's a year...parang ang dami naman ata. Though I remember some years when there were 8 or 9 summas, pero 10 as an average...mukhang madami ata

Aleancelo

Jan 1, 2008, 02:23 PM

^^^
Ako UP grad, no honorssssssssss, pero naglilingkod sa bayan at nagbabayad ng tamang buwis. Nagtuturo sa mga review centers at nangangaral sa mga di marunong tumawid sa tamng daanan (sa mga kapitbahay lang namin). Kahit wala pang 100k sweldo ko... palagay ko daig ko pa ang 1 summa cum laude ng UPD na may multiple MS at PhD pa na hindi man lang nagbigay tulong sa kanyang bayan...

Ako, wala ring honorsssssss. Hindi ako Bar placer. Ni hindi nga ako nakasali sa Order of the Purple Feather. Nasingko pa ako sa isang subject. Pero yung mga kasama ko, piniling pumasok sa ACCRA at sa Pecabar. Samantalang ako, nagtiyagang magsilbi sa bayan (PAO). Kung di pa ako nakapag-masters dito sa 'Merka e di ako makakabiyahe na hindi ginagamit ang pera ng erpats at ermats ko.

maroon_spinoza

Jan 1, 2008, 03:56 PM

You're probably not that aware how prestigious and famous this award is but let me tell you this: there is so much pride and honor attached to winning this award, not just for the awardees themselves but for the entire country they represent as well.

point taken. =)

beauxbatons

Jan 1, 2008, 06:42 PM

Kendra Castillo, BS Physics 2004, Ateneo de Manila
2004 Class Valedictorian
Currently PhD student at the Department of Earth and Atmospheric Science, Purdue University

Nasa Purdue na pala si Ms.Kendra. Naging prof ko siya sa Physics sa AdMU. I think 1st year ako nun. 2005. She's very nice and pretty. Tanda ko pa minsan may mga boys ang nag sseat-in samin :D

n3X

Jan 1, 2008, 08:51 PM

Ako UP grad, no honorssssssssss, pero naglilingkod sa bayan at nagbabayad ng tamang buwis. Nagtuturo sa mga review centers at nangangaral sa mga di marunong tumawid sa tamng daanan (sa mga kapitbahay lang namin). Kahit wala pang 100k sweldo ko... palagay ko daig ko pa ang 1 summa cum laude ng UPD na may multiple MS at PhD pa na hindi man lang nagbigay tulong sa kanyang bayan...

check. saludo ako. Asan na ba mga laude laude na mga yan?

Naalala ko kasi palaging more than 10 SCL meron sa UP Diliman for the last 5-10 years. There were 12 SCLs last year and 15 a couple of years ago, though there were also years when it only had 9 SCLs. But I don’t exactly remember a drought year for UP Diliman. Nevertheless, baka nga my figure was an overestimate. In such case, gawin nating 7 SCL a year, on average, which is still commendable. This means that UP has the hoard of the best and most talented students in the country.

non sequitur. Grade inflation ang nagaganap sa UP mas lalo sa Diliman. Ang anecdotes nga e, mas magagaling mga dating taga-UP kesa sa ngayon. Ngayon puro apathetic na malgrammar mga tao na hindi na critical mag-isip pero mayayabang pa rin. Tipong dati daw, dinadala pa sa AS lobby ang mga debates sa classroom, ngayon puro blank stares na lang nakukuha ng teachers kapag nagtatanong. Marami pa ring magagaling sa UP, pero hindi na katulad ng dati na masasabi na isa sa mga pinakamagaling sa mundo.

n3X

Jan 1, 2008, 08:57 PM

_ozzakii

Jan 2, 2008, 12:44 AM

check. saludo ako. Asan na ba mga laude laude na mga yan?

non sequitur. Grade inflation ang nagaganap sa UP mas lalo sa Diliman. Ang anecdotes nga e, mas magagaling mga dating taga-UP kesa sa ngayon. Ngayon puro apathetic na malgrammar mga tao na hindi na critical mag-isip pero mayayabang pa rin. Tipong dati daw, dinadala pa sa AS lobby ang mga debates sa classroom, ngayon puro blank stares na lang nakukuha ng teachers kapag nagtatanong. Marami pa ring magagaling sa UP, pero hindi na katulad ng dati na masasabi na isa sa mga pinakamagaling sa mundo.

n3X,

I think that's impossible to prove given the lack of standard metric for today's students' pedagogic abilities vis-à-vis those students of the 50s/60s. In other words, we don’t have data to form a conclusion, and anecdotes alone don’t say much to prove that hypothesis either.

I also don't believe on the English grammar as a measure of one’s intelligence. At my former university in the UK, for instance, my Indian and French friends don't speak English better than most of my Filipino friends do, but my Indian and French friends do get better marks than my Filipino friends do. So what’s up with that?

First of all, there were fewer information to learn during the 50s/60s. Fewer names, theories, speeches, inventions, innovations, formulas, laws, methods, etc. to examine or investigate carefully and in detail, read carefully or intently, memorize, familiarize, consider as something to be achieved or devised, or think out as the result of careful consideration. And Cambridge support that notion.

According Cambridge researchers, about 1000 new information are added to the history of the world every single day. Given that the Cambridge researchers were correct, how can we make an objective quantifiable measure of intelligence between the people of today and those of the 50s/60s? It's hard to do that if not impossible, in my opinion, thus the anecdotes you provided are just moot and academic. And if I may assess this whole thing myself, I would like to think that the SCL of today have more stocked information than the SCL of before.

Second and most important of all, the best scholars of UP today are comparable to the best scholars in the developed countries. When one is to measure someone’s intelligence, it does not matter where the person has acquired his education from. Let’s take Prof Saloma of UP NIP as a perfect example. The professor only stands 5 feet and 6 inches, but his foreign peers think his a goliath because he’s said to be a world-class scholar. Prof Saloma acquired all his degrees (BS, MS and PHd) from UP Diliman. Additionally, aside from these group of very talented Filipinos: http://web.mit.edu/peso/team.htm those two Gates Cambridge scholars I mentioned above were likewise assessed as two of the best graduates in the world.

n3X

Jan 2, 2008, 03:04 PM

ferrisb

Jan 2, 2008, 04:02 PM

n3X,

I think that's impossible to prove given the lack of standard metric for today's students' pedagogic abilities vis-à-vis those students of the 50s/60s. In other words, we don’t have data to form a conclusion, and anecdotes alone don’t say much to prove that hypothesis either.

...

Second and most important of all, the best scholars of UP today are comparable to the best scholars in the developed countries. When one is to measure someone’s intelligence, it does not matter where the person has acquired his education from. Let’s take Prof Saloma of UP NIP as a perfect example. The professor only stands 5 feet and 6 inches, but his foreign peers think his a goliath because he’s said to be a world-class scholar. Prof Saloma acquired all his degrees (BS, MS and PHd) from UP Diliman. Additionally, aside from these group of very talented Filipinos: http://web.mit.edu/peso/team.htm those two Gates Cambridge scholars I mentioned above were likewise assessed as two of the best graduates in the world.

you're contradicting yourself (in bold). so which is it?

n3X

Jan 3, 2008, 02:09 AM

in any case, so kumusta sa ibang schools? parang puro taga-UPam mga summa na binabanggit dito. asan na mga summa na mga yan?

tyanak_soo

Jan 3, 2008, 08:15 AM

Quite simply, he meant they're comparable to the best in specific, measurable terms. But overall, it's fuzzy.

That should have been obvious to a 'top' student. :glee:

philippines123

Jan 3, 2008, 02:47 PM

sometimes, a simple / average UP student is better than the Summa/Magna Cum Laude grad of other schools. You can not deny it. We have experienced it.

a76

Jan 3, 2008, 03:57 PM

can everyone just post where their respective summa's are now? its what you do after school that is important folks. since its the new year sana bawas bawasan na natin ang kayabangan.

KuyaDanny

Jan 3, 2008, 04:17 PM

Good idea.

Our class had one summa, maybe two. I can't even be sure of the second because it's been so long ago. The first one (BSME) went on to earn a PhD in Sociology and embarked on a career in NGOs. She is on the faculty of the school of government. The second one (AB, Philosophy) is the one whose summa I cannot confirm at the moment. Last I checked, he was with San Miguel Corporation in a management position.

tyanak_soo

Jan 3, 2008, 06:53 PM

The first one (BSME) went on to earn a PhD in Sociology and embarked on a career in NGOs. She is on the faculty of the school of government. The second one (AB, Philosophy) is the one whose summa I cannot confirm at the moment. Last I checked, he was with San Miguel Corporation in a management position.

Not practicing one's degree program is the smart thing to do. :rotflmao:

_ozzakii

Jan 3, 2008, 11:36 PM

^^ Overkill yan. Hindi lahat ng bagay kailangan ng empirical evidence. And anong students' pedagogical abilities? we're not talking about their ability to teach. we're talking about yung how they think. Anyway. Wala bang mga touchstones na puedeng maging sukatan ng mga ito? I got this idea from a publication of a retired UP professor in economics, Prof. Niceto Poblador, meron siyang monograph about UP released circa 2000. He went to UChicago and UPenn. Ito title nung monograph: The University of the Philippines in the New Millennium: The Uneasy Road Ahead. If you could get a copy, please read it. I'm sure di siya mag-aassert ng ganyang chikahan, mas lalong econ pa siya from Chicago, despite your need for hard data.

n3X,

You gave me the impression that you are a teacher, so I thought your definition of intelligence was very much associated to your profession. I realized now that I did assume too much about you. I’m sorry, it was a mistake.

However, my opinion that it is impossible for you to conclude that the SCLs of the 50s/60s are smarter than the SCLs of today still stands for the simple reason that you don’t have data to back up your hypothesis/observation. Believe me; I too, would really want to find that out. I honestly do, because I keep hearing that same thing from my lawyer grandfather. My grandpa asserted that the literate people of before were smarter than the literate people of today. But when I asked him what makes him think that, his answered actually shocked me. According to him, his contemporaries were excellent English speakers, mala Heherson Alvarez, who won a debate in Harvard. So, obviously, he equates good English speakers with high intelligence and then amnemonic of its other forms. I thought what? Wasn’t my grandpa’s notion kind of absurd! So I asked him: Grandpa, what about those very talented students who majored Mathematics or Electrical Engineering (like my father) who, due to the nature of their occupation, does not require them to be as “talkative” as lawyers? And he answered back: it doesn’t matter what you majored in college. Whether you majored medicine, engineering, physics or law does not matter because intelligence is all about being eloquent, having poise and being assertive to response to a certain situation. Well, he obviously has a point, but I think his reasons were incomplete and quite of misleading. It’s incomplete because he failed to implicate the other forms of intelligence. Out of the 7 forms of intelligence, he only gave one. Then I later realised that my grandpa didn’t know that there are 7 forms of intelligence. That makes him an ignorant of what he was talking about. It’s also misleading because his definition was obviously a narrow one, and was centered towards one’s verbal abilities which discriminates talented individuals that are not as talkative as lawyers. Imagine someone would tell Einstein is dumb because he is not as eloquent an English teacher is. Isn’t that funny?

Believe it or not, I feel like I’m having the same academic discussion with my “uninformed” grandfather who was trying to form a conclusion without absolute facts to back him up.

The anecdotes that you have are not convincingly valid either unless you can show me a standardised metric that compares the two involved groups. If you have access to UP Regs, you might want to get the UPCAT results and the questionnaires starting from 1950 to 1970 and from 1990 to present and let’s compare the questions and the results of the two groups. Maybe, there’s something that we can use out from those materials. In addition, you can ask those very old UP faculty if they have changed their grading system.

Tipong uno uno sa Comm subjects pero malgrammar dahil lax and complacent mga teachers.

My observation about this: mali-mali din ang grammar ng mga educated noong 50s/60s and their diction is worse. Walang kaibahan akong napainsin. Surely, those old people can speak English, but it’s not like it’s different from those educated people of today.

Yung amount of information has nothing to do with it. Kahit nung 50s and 60s, marami ng information sa mundo, and kahit yung fact ngayon na maraming na-aadd sa stock ng mundo doesnt change anything.

Believe me, there is a huge difference when the amount of information that has to be learned is increased. The probability of getting all 100 questions answered in a test of 100 items is higher when there are fewer facts to learn. Consider this. If you’re given a day to study a 30-page handout for a test of 100 items, you’ll most likely be able to get a better score when the handout was only 2 pages and the preparation period was not changed. Am I correct? Accordingly, that is the same reason why I believe that a SCL of UPD, for instance, does have more knowledge than those SCLs of other schools (except probably those from outside of the Big3+2 and UST, SBC and the like.)

Consider this again. When I was studying for Math 17, my friend was studying the same math with the same course description at FEU. He keeps asking me to play basketball with him in our village. I always envy him because I always cannot afford to go out of our house every time he would ask me to because it always conflicts with my Math review schedule and basketball is my favourite sport despite my father wanted me to excel in lawn tennis. When I checked out his notes, I noticed that there were so many topics that were omitted by his math instructor. At the end of the semester, I got 2.5 and I was already happy. He got 1.75 and he was still disappointed. I was puzzled because he can’t answer math problems that I can. So, what’s up with that?

What we're pointing out here is how they think.
Now this has become even more complex. While I do not disagree with you, any idea how can we measure that? How would we know how those math students in 50s think, for example? At the same time, how would we know how the English major students of today think? Can we really measure how one thinks regardless of major and decide that he is smart because he thinks that way? What happens when a lazy chemist does not perform what he has in mind? Or, how would you measure the quality of thinking/ideas of a library science major or a sports science major, for example?

pero yung taste nila for debate, for thinking e wala na dahil mas pipiliin nila mag-mall, manood ng soap opera o maki-text.

This is just another assumption. I guess no one would graduate SCL from UPD when he does not deserve so. Consider that teachers at UPD don’t talk about their students’ academic progress so there’s little way that the students’ information would leak out to all departments in the university.

Now, if you’re saying some departments do manipulate grades (curve) other departments don’t. In fact, I would argue that most departments don’t. I can assure you that that is not a standard practice in biology, chemistry and math departments. In fact, all those biology instructors I got were mean and condescending. Now what happens when talented students are enrolled in subjects or departments that don’t manipulate grades such as those my former instructors?

Well, you may argue that a few of them might have just been lucky in escaping one terror teacher sem after sem. While the odds of that are very small, how sure are we that a few of those SCLs in the 50s/60s were not as just lucky?

Lastly, dun sa comparability ng best scholars from UP. Nagdedemand ka ng hard data pero di mo naman alam i-apply. Hindi ka puedeng kumuha ng magandang case and sabihin na representative na siya ng buo. I concur with that mas lalo with NIP, MSI and Econ. Isa sila sa best sa SEAsia. Pero sabi nga rin dun sa monograph, oases sila ng excellence sa isang desert ng mediocrity. Yes, yung ibang departments best sa Pilipinas and malayo ang local competition. Pero sa global arena, sobrang mediocre ang karamihan sa UP. Kailangan na natin i-benchmark sarili natin worldwide sa isang era ng globalization. Inevitable ito.

You’re probably confused of the purpose of my citing of those examples. You’re the one who said that the best UP people are not as good as those from other countries, so I cited those Filipinos who have a world-class talent. I said, consider prof Saloma. He earned his undergrad physics at UPD, yet, when his works were assessed, they were said to be world-class. So, how did I not use him to support my case? The other examples I gave are Gates awardees. Again, they’re Filipinos who have been assessed to have world-class talents. Yes, locally educated but globally competitive. And lastly, I gave you those young Filipinos who organised the PESO whom all of them have studied at the big3 but have made it to top universities in the US. If they’re not that talented, would they be admitted at those top US schools?

Det7

Jan 5, 2008, 10:38 PM

these are all very inspirational :)

1800pinoyjobs

Jan 6, 2008, 07:25 AM

Another case of brain drain in the Philippines.:depressed: Sayang na sayang. They could have contributed a lot to the Philippines. But the country is losing its best minds to First World countries.

That's just economic reality. People will gravitate towards places that value/compensate them more based on their ability.

n3X

Jan 7, 2008, 01:19 AM

n3X,
You gave me the impression that you are a teacher, so I thought your definition of intelligence was very much associated to your profession. I realized now that I did assume too much about you. I’m sorry, it was a mistake.

However, my opinion that it is impossible for you to conclude that the SCLs of the 50s/60s are smarter than the SCLs of today still stands for the simple reason that you don’t have data to back up your hypothesis/observation. Believe me; I too, would really want to find that out. I honestly do, because I keep hearing that same thing from my lawyer grandfather. My grandpa asserted that the literate people of before were smarter than the literate people of today. But when I asked him what makes him think that, his answered actually shocked me. According to him, his contemporaries were excellent English speakers, mala Heherson Alvarez, who won a debate in Harvard. So, obviously, he equates good English speakers with high intelligence and then amnemonic of its other forms. I thought what? Wasn’t my grandpa’s notion kind of absurd! So I asked him: Grandpa, what about those very talented students who majored Mathematics or Electrical Engineering (like my father) who, due to the nature of their occupation, does not require them to be as “talkative” as lawyers? And he answered back: it doesn’t matter what you majored in college. Whether you majored medicine, engineering, physics or law does not matter because intelligence is all about being eloquent, having poise and being assertive to response to a certain situation. Well, he obviously has a point, but I think his reasons were incomplete and quite of misleading. It’s incomplete because he failed to implicate the other forms of intelligence. Out of the 7 forms of intelligence, he only gave one. Then I later realised that my grandpa didn’t know that there are 7 forms of intelligence. That makes him an ignorant of what he was talking about. It’s also misleading because his definition was obviously a narrow one, and was centered towards one’s verbal abilities which discriminates talented individuals that are not as talkative as lawyers. Imagine someone would tell Einstein is dumb because he is not as eloquent an English teacher is. Isn’t that funny?

Believe it or not, I feel like I’m having the same academic discussion with my “uninformed” grandfather who was trying to form a conclusion without absolute facts to back him up.

The anecdotes that you have are not convincingly valid either unless you can show me a standardised metric that compares the two involved groups. If you have access to UP Regs, you might want to get the UPCAT results and the questionnaires starting from 1950 to 1970 and from 1990 to present and let’s compare the questions and the results of the two groups. Maybe, there’s something that we can use out from those materials. In addition, you can ask those very old UP faculty if they have changed their grading system.

Alam mo ozzakii, honestly, you're overreading. Nakokomplicate yung discussion because you insert assumptions that you think are inherent in my points but aren't necessarily included. And I dont need a profession to define intelligence. Di naman sa nagyayabang po, but coming from Mensa, I have a basic understanding din ng human intelligence and some of the theories behind it. Kaya in the first place yung data na sinasabi mo na you require, is quite hard dahil intelligence nga is hard to define, much more to measure. But truth is, we all know and perceive kung matalino ba ang isang tao and we could make a (one could say shallow or incomplete) assessment na one is more intelligent than another. So one could say na yung best way to "measure" is through qualitative means. . So yung sinasabi mo na yung anecdote that I have is not convincingly valid, is not really the case. In fact, it could be one of the best statements on the matter given the fact na yung professor (i.e. Prof. Niceto Poblador) taught generations of students at the School of Economics and is still doing so in several other schools now that he's retired. If it were possible to present yung case with metrics, ginawa na ni Prof. Poblador na yun with his assertion, siguro naman sa University of Chicago natuto na siya ng kahit anong way to support his assertion. Sa kahit anong profession, one weighs yung qualitative and quantitative ways to research. Actually merong tables dun sa monograph nga niya pero simple lang, like number of SCLs for a couple of years. Again, masyadong makulet yung paghingi mo ng hard data. If you wont still accept this, bahala ka na, you are free to do so.

My observation about this: mali-mali din ang grammar ng mga educated noong 50s/60s and their diction is worse. Walang kaibahan akong napainsin. Surely, those old people can speak English, but it’s not like it’s different from those educated people of today.

Wow wala kang kaibahan na napansin? Amazing. I guess yung mga columnists ng Inquirer and old professors in UP were wrong. In any case, walang connection yung sinabi mo sa sinabi ko. Read again. You're not acknowledging yung underpinnings ng phenomenon ng grade inflation. Yun yung point!

Believe me, there is a huge difference when the amount of information that has to be learned is increased. The probability of getting all 100 questions answered in a test of 100 items is higher when there are fewer facts to learn. Consider this. If you’re given a day to study a 30-page handout for a test of 100 items, you’ll most likely be able to get a better score when the handout was only 2 pages and the preparation period was not changed. Am I correct? Accordingly, that is the same reason why I believe that a SCL of UPD, for instance, does have more knowledge than those SCLs of other schools (except probably those from outside of the Big3+2 and UST, SBC and the like.)

Consider this again. When I was studying for Math 17, my friend was studying the same math with the same course description at FEU. He keeps asking me to play basketball with him in our village. I always envy him because I always cannot afford to go out of our house every time he would ask me to because it always conflicts with my Math review schedule and basketball is my favourite sport despite my father wanted me to excel in lawn tennis. When I checked out his notes, I noticed that there were so many topics that were omitted by his math instructor. At the end of the semester, I got 2.5 and I was already happy. He got 1.75 and he was still disappointed. I was puzzled because he can’t answer math problems that I can. So, what’s up with that?

ozzakii, no offense ha, pareho naman tayong taga-UP I assume, pero walang value na ina-add yung juvenile ramblings mo. Who gives a ---t about you and lawn tennis. Anyway. Immaterial na yung amount of information dahil nga kahit noon marami na. Yes, nadadagdagan nga ngayon ng mas marami, pero it doesnt change anything. Available pa rin yung info sa kahit kanino sa mundo. Paulit ulit lang tayo e. I understood your point na nga e, pero immaterial nga siya.

And whats up with that? Have you considered na iba nga yung grading sa inyo? Di mo rin ba magets yung pagkakaiba sa grading sa ibat ibang panahon and schools? Or kahit yung rigor. Anyway, this is veering away already from the discussion.

Now this has become even more complex. While I do not disagree with you, any idea how can we measure that? How would we know how those math students in 50s think, for example? At the same time, how would we know how the English major students of today think? Can we really measure how one thinks regardless of major and decide that he is smart because he thinks that way? What happens when a lazy chemist does not perform what he has in mind? Or, how would you measure the quality of thinking/ideas of a library science major or a sports science major, for example?

If you cant handle the complexity, then just shut up. Sorry kung abrasive na ako. Anyway, may nakausap ka na ba na matatandang taga-UP? Kahit 80s, 90s. Could you compare kung pano sila mag-isip with yung mga contemporaries ngayon na 06, 07? You could comment through contrasting diba? Obviously, based ito dun sa output in the same way na you could compare yung thoughts (including quality) between, for example, literary critics and scholars. Diba, one could even say na itong si Prof. X mas magaling sa theory than Prof. Y. Universities as a whole nga are measured on this, reputation nga halos 40% sa criteria diba sa ratings? So yung output for example, na written, ng isang taga-70s and 90s e puedeng i-compare and i-"rate" or "grade". And ang sinasabi nga ng mga nagcocomment, sobrang bumaba na raw yung quality ng UP people, in general, compared dati despite na marami pa rin magagaling.

This is just another assumption. I guess no one would graduate SCL from UPD when he does not deserve so. Consider that teachers at UPD don’t talk about their students’ academic progress so there’s little way that the students’ information would leak out to all departments in the university.

Now, if you’re saying some departments do manipulate grades (curve) other departments don’t. In fact, I would argue that most departments don’t. I can assure you that that is not a standard practice in biology, chemistry and math departments. In fact, all those biology instructors I got were mean and condescending. Now what happens when talented students are enrolled in subjects or departments that don’t manipulate grades such as those my former instructors?

Well, you may argue that a few of them might have just been lucky in escaping one terror teacher sem after sem. While the odds of that are very small, how sure are we that a few of those SCLs in the 50s/60s were not as just lucky?

Again not another assumption but an observation. Anyway just read the monograph on grade inflation. Or kahit yung criticism ng Ivy League universities like Harvard sa grade inflation and graduation of SCLs and analyze why they changed their policies (e.g. assigning honors to top percentiles). Kakapagod na rin po mag-explain, sorry.

You’re probably confused of the purpose of my citing of those examples. You’re the one who said that the best UP people are not as good as those from other countries, so I cited those Filipinos who have a world-class talent. I said, consider prof Saloma. He earned his undergrad physics at UPD, yet, when his works were assessed, they were said to be world-class. So, how did I not use him to support my case? The other examples I gave are Gates awardees. Again, they’re Filipinos who have been assessed to have world-class talents. Yes, locally educated but globally competitive. And lastly, I gave you those young Filipinos who organised the PESO whom all of them have studied at the big3 but have made it to top universities in the US. If they’re not that talented, would they be admitted at those top US schools?

I got your point already the first time around. Ikaw yung di nagegets sinasabi ko. I didnt say na yung best UP people are not as good as those from other countries. Sabi ko pa nga I concur with that e. I'm saying na you cant cite those examples and say na representative siya ng UP graduates in general. They are talented and they get admitted, normally distributed naman siguro intelligence sa mundo. Pero kahit sa top institutions, they would only assign yung best prepared sa best professors din or yung in-line yung research. Wag tayong naive sa ganitong mga scenario. Sa potential, halos pare-pareho lang mga yan [there are superstars] pero generally, its what they know and how they think that really distinguishes them. Which brings me back dun sa point ko, knowledge becomes obsolete after some time, so yung how one thinks na lang talaga ang makakabigay ng edge. And now, sabi nga nila, hindi na ganun ka-rigorous or interested sa debate mga taga-UP. Iba na talaga mag-isip yung fresh na mga taga-UP ngayon compared dati. And hindi magandang sukatan yung number of SCLs now (dahil mas marami ngayon) just to say na mas maraming mga mas magagaling ngayon from UP because of grade inflation. May malaking disparity between yung overall assessment ng mga tao [again, which says na declining and mababa na quality ng UP grads] and yung sudden increase ng SCLs and other honor graduates [which says naman na gumagaling mga taga-UP na problematic nga dahil di naman ceteris paribus].

altair

Jan 7, 2008, 07:25 PM

wow, ang init dito

anyway,

Perry Esguerra

he may not have been a summa grad

but he had this brain that was on overdrive

his classmates at Pisay, I heard, used to pit him in math operations against somebody using a calculator , say, something like 523/16, and he always won

he stayed at Pisay for less than a year and went straight to UPD, where he eventually drifted from science course to science course

but in math, I heard, that he was the student of last resort (naks, parang federal reserve, hehe), pag wala nang nakakasagot, kay Perry na yon...

I heard that he already has his PhD in Physics and he is currently with the NIP

Dr. Efren Abaya
soft spoken guy
comes from a family of summas, one of his brothers also graduated summa from UPM, if I'm not mistaken
i heard that he's with the nuclear test ban treaty organization, monitoring nuclear explosions around the world

_ozzakii

Jan 7, 2008, 08:09 PM

N3x, cut it already. You're not looking good in this debate. And, sorry that I can't read everything you wrote. The first few lines of the first paragraph alone are full of flapdoodle arguments so there's no point for me to continue reading what I thought was only a drawn-out, yet again, unsubstantiated post. If you are a representative of the SCLs of the 50s/60s, then the more reason for me to hammer away the strife you initiated because I don't think you represent your generation very well. Not even close. But before I continue, allow me to remind you of your other low.

The reason why we’re just going in circles here is because it's obvious that YOU are confused with YOUR OWN arguments, and it's funny (or absurd) that you keep bringing up tidbits of information that does not bolster your defence. Aren't you bored throwing garbage posts in this thread? It’s also kind of cranky that you keep saying-- you've completely understood what I said when it's clear that you don't, not even an iota of it. Look, I sensed that you're a smart old woman who would like to represent your generation -- the 50s/60s. But I also sensed that you're a stubborn old woman who depicts a life of insolence. I will rewrite your arguments so you can swot them up, and hopefully, support them. Otherwise, cover your mouth or stay on topic.

1. The SCL of today is not as smart or knowledgeable as the SCL of the 50s. -- Have you even had a conversation with a SCL of today?

2. The smartest Filipinos are not as competitive as those smart people of other countries. -- Have you even studied abroad for you to have observed that?

This is really absurd!

tolits

Jan 8, 2008, 03:08 PM

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BS Physical Therapy (Summa Cum Laude), University of Santo Tomas (UST), Manila, 1986

Doctor of Medicine (Magna Cum Laude), University of Santo Tomas Faculty of Medicine and Surgery, Manila, 1990

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Internship, Makati Medical Center (MMC), Makati City, 1991

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Traveling Fellowship, European Federation of National Associations of Orthopaedics and Traumatology (EFORT) - ASEAN Orthopaedic Association, Spain and England, 1998

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_ozzakii

Jan 8, 2008, 06:29 PM

Jose Ernie Lope -- naging instructor ko ito sa Math noon pero hindi namin alam na summa cum laude pala siya.

Ph.D. Mathematics. Sophia University, Tokyo, Japan. 2001
M.S. Mathematics. Sophia University, Tokyo, Japan. 1998
B.S. Mathematics. University of the Philippines, Diliman, Quezon City. 1994

Awards

Austrian Exchange Service (OAD) Postdoctoral Grant. 2003-2004
First Place, NAST -Du Pont Talent Search for Young Scientists. 2002
Japanese Ministry of Education (Monbusho) Scholarship Grant. 1995-2001
DOST Scholarship Grant. 1991-1994
BPI Science Award. 1994
Honorable Mention, International Mathematics Olympiad (Sigtuna, Sweden). 1991
National Champion, Philippine Mathematics Olympiad. 1991

badabing

Jan 8, 2008, 11:46 PM

anyway,

Perry Esguerra

he may not have been a summa grad

but he had this brain that was on overdrive

his classmates at Pisay, I heard, used to pit him in math operations against somebody using a calculator , say, something like 523/16, and he always won

he stayed at Pisay for less than a year and went straight to UPD, where he eventually drifted from science course to science course

but in math, I heard, that he was the student of last resort (naks, parang federal reserve, hehe), pag wala nang nakakasagot, kay Perry na yon...

I heard that he already has his PhD in Physics and he is currently with the NIP

Perry was a classmate back in grade 2 at St Scholastica's Academy in Pampanga. Bait na tao, walang ka ere ere. I moved to public school on the third grade and was fortunately designated to represent the school in math competitions. Alas, Perry would also represent St Scho, and he would wink at me in the middle of competition while I'm trying my best not to wet my pants. Of course, the rest of us were just fighting for second place. Perry did not even use paper and pen to solve problems, but he managed to write his answer before time expired. Frustrating yes but amazing as well.
Perry's siblings are very smart as well, if I'm not mistaken their family still holds the record for the highest number of brother/sisters sent to Pisay.
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Dr. Efren Abaya
soft spoken guy
comes from a family of summas, one of his brothers also graduated summa from UPM, if I'm not mistaken
i heard that he's with the nuclear test ban treaty organization, monitoring nuclear explosions around the world

I heard his sister is a Chem or Chem Eng Magna "lang" from UP.

p1215

Jan 9, 2008, 01:06 AM

Malabo yata ang "drifted from science course to science course". Same year ko siya pumasok at kapareho ko siya lagi ng physics class for 5 years.

[QUOTE=altair;23155830]wow, ang init dito

anyway,

Perry Esguerra

he may not have been a summa grad

but he had this brain that was on overdrive

...
he stayed at Pisay for less than a year and went straight to UPD, where he eventually drifted from science course to science course

cretinous00

Jan 10, 2008, 07:29 AM

There are dynasties at UP, whole families that not only study at diliman, but often specialize in a given field. You have the Reyeses of math, the Berbas, Mirandas and Loricas of Chemistry.

Other clans like the Abayas mentioned above. I think that EE guy still holds the record highest average. And it's from a rather "easy" course called electrical engineering.

The Kintanars of Cebu are also unusually brilliant (haven't heard of one who was mediocre.) My sister told me Kintanar cousins usually meet at Pisay.

What the hell do these people eat?

n3X

Jan 10, 2008, 05:48 PM

^^ Sa alam ko mas marami pang families na spread out pa talaga. Multi-generational mga taga-UP. Marami like sa departments and sa greek system. Its so funny nung Centennial Kick-off you could see families talaga. Legacies ever. Goodluck din sa mga tao na karamihan sa family nila taga-UP, OP to the maximum level yung mga out, mas lalo sa mga usapan.

hacksaw

Jan 11, 2008, 03:27 PM

Efren Abaya, batch ng dad ko since grade school sa UP hanggang sa UP college eng'g. He wasnt at the top of the class in grade school but after pisay he was something else. Dad says his instructors at eng'g were trying to look for cracks in this guys intellectual armor. They found none.:D

_ozzakii

Jan 11, 2008, 06:37 PM

Talking about dynasties of gifted minds at UP, the Posadas family are one of those, according to my father.

beltranBALDO

Jan 12, 2008, 10:43 PM

in any case, so kumusta sa ibang schools? parang puro taga-UPam mga summa na binabanggit dito. asan na mga summa na mga yan?

ewan ko ba kung bakit napakaraming alam ng ibang students/young alumni dito about the achievements of their SUMMAs.

yang mga FANS kaya ng mga summa na yan, may mga achievements na maipagmamalaki ng UP?
or nakikiride lang sa achievements ni ZUMA> :lol:

klintz

Jan 13, 2008, 11:55 AM

paanong nakikiride sinasabi mo dyan? just because proud sila sa mga naging achievements ng mnga alumni nila, nakikiride na sila?

cretinous00

Jan 13, 2008, 01:24 PM

Kaya na kaming saluhin ng mga summa namin. 'dami nila, eh. Sa ibang eskuela, ilan ang summa nila? :glee:

batangmarikit

Jan 13, 2008, 01:58 PM

^^^
summa cum laude count in UPD:
2007 - 6 or 7
2006 - 11
2005 - 10
2004 - 2
2003 - di ko alam
2002 - 10
2001 - 3
2000 - 4

wala pa yung summa sa ibang campuses, pero mga 1 or 2 lang per year, minsan pa nga wala (UPLB had 2 summas in 5 years).

Anyway, kahit summa sila, ang tanong pa rin, paano sila makakatulong sa Pilipinas? For me di sapat na magpadala na lang sila ng $$$$$$$ dahil sa ibang bansa sila nagwo-work..

Ako UP grad, no honorssssssssss, pero naglilingkod sa bayan at nagbabayad ng tamang buwis. Nagtuturo sa mga review centers at nangangaral sa mga di marunong tumawid sa tamng daanan (sa mga kapitbahay lang namin). Kahit wala pang 100k sweldo ko... palagay ko daig ko pa ang 1 summa cum laude ng UPD na may multiple MS at PhD pa na hindi man lang nagbigay tulong sa kanyang bayan...

apir!*okay*

d rin ako ng University scholar, collge scholar o nag -hr man lang. pero masasabi ko lang, may balak akong maglingkod sa bayan.... (wala pa kasi akong work) pero sa ngayon, im telling my parents na iba ang serbisyo sa kababayan kaysa sa dolyares lamang.

on-topic: *** batch 03 ng elbi ay nsa IRRI nagwork at ang isa ay nagtuturo sa Econ sa uplb.

klintz

Jan 13, 2008, 02:26 PM

dagdag ko pala,

Mikaela Irene Fudolig- nasa NIP nagtuturo at nagmamasters din yata.

n3X

Jan 13, 2008, 07:35 PM

ewan ko ba kung bakit napakaraming alam ng ibang students/young alumni dito about the achievements of their SUMMAs.

yang mga FANS kaya ng mga summa na yan, may mga achievements na maipagmamalaki ng UP?
or nakikiride lang sa achievements ni ZUMA> :lol:

more than youll ever know. :rotflmao:

alam mo kahit mga walang honor sa UP maraming achievements. ewan ko sa yo.

Galvantic@STS

Jan 15, 2008, 02:19 AM

ewan ko ba kung bakit napakaraming alam ng ibang students/young alumni dito about the achievements of their SUMMAs.

yang mga FANS kaya ng mga summa na yan, may mga achievements na maipagmamalaki ng UP?
or nakikiride lang sa achievements ni ZUMA> :lol:

sa UE may summa? :bop: joke!

pero i agree with you... :glee: maraming ritong nakikiride sa achievements ng schoolmates nila... pero walang mali dun, nakakairita lang. :lol:

cretinous00

Jan 15, 2008, 10:37 AM

Better to idolize your school's summa cum laudes than its basketball players, and politicians, right?

KuyaDanny

Jan 15, 2008, 02:03 PM

I prefer the showbiz personalities myself.

n3X

Jan 15, 2008, 09:50 PM

I prefer the showbiz personalities myself.

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

KuyaDanny may tinatago ka palang humor ha.

dagitab24

Mar 18, 2008, 07:45 AM

This just in. She was two batches lower than me in Pisay-Diliman and I used to see her hanging out at the front lobby a lot.

Pinay discovers largest number of ‘black holes’By Helen Flores
Tuesday, March 18, 2008

A Filipina astrophysicist is making waves in the international community after leading the discovery of the largest number of “supermassive” black holes.

Reinabelle Reyes, a former scholar of the Science Education Institute (SEI) of the Department of Science and Technology, and her team discovered 900 black holes in nearby galaxies.

A black hole is a region of space in which the gravitational field is so powerful it prevents even light from escaping.

According to research, when something falls into a non-rotating uncharged black hole, the falling object is absorbed.

Stellar-mass black holes travel through our galaxy, the Milky Way, just like stars. Consequently, they may collide with the solar system or another planetary system in the galaxy, although the probability of this happening is very small, research said.

A team of scientists of the Sloan Digital Sky Survey recently found a large number of “hidden quasars” that are shrouded in light-absorbing dust and gas.

“We found that hidden quasars make up at least half of the quasars in the nearby universe, implying that most of the powerful black holes in our neighborhood had previously been unrecognized,” SEI quoted Reyes as saying.

Reyes, a doctoral student at Princeton University, said their discovery shows that powerful black holes are more common in the last eight billion years of cosmic history than had previously been thought and that the relative numbers of hidden compared to normal quasars show how the appearance of dust and gas determine the presence of a hidden quasar.

“The large number of hidden quasars we discovered implies that most of the light emitted by quasars is actually obscured. Moreover, because the light from these hidden quasars previously had been unaccounted for, black holes turn out to be more efficient in converting the energy of in-falling matter into light than we had thought,” she said.

Reyes graduated summa cum laude at the Ateneo de Manila University with a degree in Physics in 2005.

SEI director Ester Ogena said Reyes’ success in her career shows the quality of scholar-graduates the country produces and the vast potential the Philippines has in space science.

Read more here (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Headlines&p=49&type=2&sec=24&aid=20080317124).

_SCUD_

Mar 18, 2008, 12:50 PM

Congrats Dr. De Guzman!

UST prof gets SEA research award in Malaysia

MANILA, Philippines - A multi-award winning Filipino college professor received one of the most prestigious research awards in Southeast Asia for his paper on the youth’s participation in sustainable education.

The SEAMEO (Southeast Asian Ministers of Education Organization) -Jasper Research Award, established in 1990, is funded by the government of Canada and is a way of recognizing exemplary research conducted by Southeast Asian nationals in the region.

Professor Allan de Guzman, Ph.D., of the University of Santo Tomas Center for Educational Research and Development bagged the award which entitles him to a 20-day visiting fellowship in Canada, including another 20-day visiting fellowship in other Southeast Asian countries.

De Guzman’s paper titled: “Creating space for legitimate participation of youth in Education for Sustainability (ES) through service learning: Toward a liberatory praxis for Pedagogy of Sustainability (PS)," will be formally awarded during the the 43rd SEAMEO Council Conference in Malaysia later this month.

This 13-year college professor bested other aspirants for reflecting “social change, good governance, civic consciousness and environmentally responsible business; sustainable agriculture, fishery and rural development."

Before being acknowledged by the SEAMEO, De Guzman was a three-time recipient of Dangal ng UST Award for most outstanding teaching performance.

He holds a post doctoral training certificate in Study Planning and Curriculum Development (2001) form the State of Israel and was a summa cum laude in his doctorate and masters education.

De Guzman also had a total of 53 international publications published in leading journals in the United Kingdom, United States, Korea, the Netherlands, Germany, Turkey and Hong Kong. - Mark J. Ubalde, GMANews http://www.gmanews.tv/story/84184/UST-prof-gets-SEA-research-award-in-Malaysia

markpaul

Mar 24, 2008, 04:51 PM

gifted talaga ang Suma Cum Laude!

rm458

May 13, 2008, 11:28 PM

Well researched about the Cambridge U. Gates' Scholarship. I'm just using google, and saw my name on your discussion board. I thought, I did something wrong. Well, I'm Ramon Maluping, one of the Bill Gates' Scholars. It's just unfortunate, that in our country we focus more on beauty pageant, rather than to those people who achieved such feat.

The Gates could now even be more prestigious than the Rhodes, coz the competetion is worldwide (and Cambridge is better than Oxford!hahahaha). Just take note also, that for other countries (other than the US) it is even more difficult to get an award. 40-50% of the scholars are allocated to the US, mostly from Ivy League U + Standaford, MIT, Berkley, CalTEch and other leading US universities. So I'm proud to say, that at least we already have a couple of scholars.

It's only when I started here, that I've realised the weight and the great deal that they're giving to this scholarship.

pinatubo

May 18, 2008, 01:30 AM

Baldomero Olivera PhD
summa cum laude (BS Chemistry in UP Diliman)
He's a Distinguished Professor of Biology in University of Utah
Harvard Foundation Scientist of the Year for 2007

But I don't care about his awards, I'm proud of him because of his contributions to science.

He is a co-discoverer of the DNA ligase and other key DNA enzymes (ang nagpresent pa ng paper nya is Arthur Kornberg, extremely respected Nobel awardee).

He discovered conotoxins, which paved way for development of highly potent pain relievers. This discovery opened new frontiers in neurobiology as more and more ion channels in the central nervous system can now be/are now being identified.

Talking about articles published in internationally accredited journals, this guy has published hundreds of it. I won't be surprised if one day, Sweden desices to acknowledge him with a Nobel award.

lebron_paul

May 18, 2008, 05:00 PM

rm458

May 27, 2008, 08:29 PM

it's the most competitive scholarship in Cambridge. first you must be admitted into the university (usually they admit 5-10% of the applicants), then each department/faculty will rank those who were admitted...and then those who ranked 1 (sometieme including ranked #2) from each department will compete. from this list, they will make a shortlist, and will conduct an interview....and i think the probability of getting an award is 1:7 from the shortlist candidate (i'm not 100% sure). anyway, they will get a total of 100 scholars, whom 50 to 60 will come from the US.

if you're interested, you can find the information at the university and scholarships' website. actually, everyone that makes an application to the university will be considered for the scholarship. my advice... just try if you're really interested!

well, to be a scholar is a great privelege. the scholarship is very generous. we have our own common room, with computers and all the ammenities, a lot of social activities (e.g. west end trip, trip to different places, formal dinner,etc) and the best thing is all of these are free or highly subsidised by the scholarship. as a scholar you will meet Mr and Mrs Bill Gates Sr (and have a photo with them), and other famous personality and even the Queen!

dimetreeus

Jul 9, 2008, 07:51 AM

Lawrence L. Ilag, Ph.D.
Washington, DC office
202.408.4031
202.408.4400 [fax]
larry.ilag@finnegan.com

Larry Ilag is a member of the firm's Biotechnology/Pharmaceutical Practice Group in Washington, D.C. His current practice focuses on patent prosecution and litigation, primarily in the biotechnology and pharmaceutical areas.

Dr. Ilag has extensive technical experience in molecular biology, genomics, biochemistry, and genetics. In his doctoral and post-doctoral research, he studied tetrapyrrole biosynthesis, hormone action, and disease resistance at the molecular level. He was a research fellow at Harvard Medical School/Massachusetts General Hospital, and a visiting scientist at National Institute for Basic Biology, Japan; University of Cambridge, England; and International Rice Research Institute, Philippines.

His interest in patent law brought him to DuPont, where he was a patent liaison for biotech research for more than two years. In this capacity, he was involved in drafting and prosecuting patent applications and developing strategies for IP portfolio management and protection.

In law school, Dr. Ilag was engaged in various activities. He was a member of the Harvard Journal of Law and Technology. He obtained hands-on experience in resolving real-life immigration issues through an internship at Catholic Charities. In recognition of his commitment to a career in intellectual property law, he received a Sidney B. Williams, Jr. Intellectual Property Law Scholarship from the American Intellectual Property Law Education Foundation.

Dr. Ilag maintains his ties with the Philippines, where he spent his formative years. In his visits there over the years, he has given talks on various scientific topics and intellectual property law. He has co-written a textbook on plant pathology for one of the major universities in the Philippines. Additionally, he has advised the Philippine national government on several occasions on biotech research policy.

Admitted:
2004, Maryland; 2005, District of Columbia; registered to practice before the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

Education:
Harvard Law School (J.D., 2004); Yale University (Ph.D., Molecular Biophysics & Biochemistry, 1993); University of the Philippines (B.S., summa cum laude, Biology, 1987).

Representative Publications:
“Patenting AcademicResearch,” Philippine Star, 2005; First author, “From patenting genes to proteins: the search for utility via function,” Trends in Biotechnology, 2002; First author, “Isolation and characterization of disease resistance gene homologues from rice cultivar IR64,” Gene, 2000; Co-first author, “Light regulation of chlorophyll biosynthesis at the level of 5-aminolevulinate formation in Arabidopsis,” Plant Cell, 1994; First author, “The Escherichia coli hemL gene encodes glutamate 1-semialdehyde aminotransferase,” Journal of Bacteriology, 1991.

bethegirl

Jul 10, 2008, 01:00 AM

well i'm proud to say that my sister is now a research analyst in DOST :D kakagraduate lang niya :D

may free 1 sack of rice na kami every month, hehe.

mikoa4

May 13, 2009, 10:32 PM

sayang talaga ang mga magagaling at matalino na mga pinoy..kasi ang ibang bansa ang nakikinabang sa kanila...kawawang pinas....isang friend ko sobrang talino......pharmacist yun...hayun nasa ibang bansa naninilbihan.....kasi wala daw future ang mga pharmacist dito sa pinas....eh dun tinitingala ang mga pharmacist daw....

ronelio

Jun 14, 2009, 02:28 PM

in 1998, 4 ang SCL sa UPD

1. Margarita de Guzman, BSBAA, US based na ** when i google searched her.
2. Evelyn Kho-Sy, BSBAA, Salutatorian ng Ateneo Law School in 2004. Full time Prof na ** sa UP CBA
3. Wyant Chan, BSECE, US based na rin
4. May Lim, Physics, sa Diliman nag MS at PhD, Asso Prof sa NIP. nag Post-Doc sa US from 2004 to 2007

yesterday, sa web ng UPD, Assistant College Sec na pala si Mikaela Fodulig, the then 16-year old Physics SCL in 2007! Astig!!!

nikkilove

Jun 16, 2009, 09:02 AM

FEU Batch 200_. Secret.

Wala kaming Summa sa course namin, just Magna, he's also here in the States, taking up Master's in Harvard University.

Zorro_Legend

Jun 16, 2009, 10:03 AM

Of the Centennial SCLs, I personally know of one, Brylle Baluyot BS Econ 1.177. He was my floormate in Kalayaan.

When I googled his name, I found out he is a junior research associate in business world. Not bad. I also heard from another floormate he's going to teach. I'll ask him personally when we meet.

One batch higher that me, UP History got its first Summa in years..Ariel Lopez BA History 1.107. He was my classmate in some majors...He is now a kas prof in UPD.

dreamboat1987

Jun 16, 2009, 03:09 PM

^oi, floormate! haha. teka, sino ka kaya dun? lol. magkalapit lang kami ng room ni brylle. halimaw yang batang yan.

ronelio

Jun 21, 2009, 05:14 PM

i remember Diane Desiero (2000 Econ summa and 2004 UP Law cum laude) so i google searched her. Muntik na ako mahulog sa seat coz nasa YALE LAW SCHOOL na siya!!! di naman kagulat gulat ang feat nya!!!

she worked at ACCRALAW after taking the Bar in 2004. Then naging Profesorial Lecturer sa UP Law in 2007 up to last year.

super debater sya. She was part of UP Law team which won the 2001 Asian Debates and the 2004 Jean Pictet IHL Moot Court Competition in Europe!!!