Kiefer Ravena

[last.dodo.bird]

"did you see that?! nakita mo yun?!"

I was going nuts this afternoon as I was watching Game 2 of the AHS-DLSZ finals matchup (congrats to DLSZ btw!), and part of the reason was I was so :eek: :eek: :eek: @ Kiefer Ravena.

OMG man, this kid is what... 13? 14? and he plays LIKE THAT?! Amazing basketball... and it just blows my mind thinking that he's gonna be in the Ateneo Juniors team for 3 more years! I hope he continually improves his game... grows... and eventually moves up into the Ateneo Seniors team.

talk about this AHS freshman here *okay*

[epalog]

i'v seen this kid play as i covered the jr. nba games last summer. he's just amazing. i want a younger brother like him.

[jeffjan]

Sana tumangkad si Keifer katulad ni Bong. Sabi ni Mark Molina kahapon, maliit din si Bong nung 1st year HS pero bago mag-college biglang tangkad umabot ng 6-1 to 6-3 ang height.

Shooter na, slasher pa.

[Brewskie]

^^^
...point guard pa. Among all the players yesterday, talagang impressed ako kay Ravena-first year high school!!!b

If he grows up to be 6'1 or above, we have the future of Philippine basketball right there.

Do you remember what kind of basketball you were playing when you were first year high school? The best case na sa atin is nasa aspirants team tayo. Imagine yourself in 1st year and imagine how you'd fare if you played against upperclassmen. I remember coming from gradeschool, ang lalaking mama naman nitong mga highschool na ito. Thirteen and Fourteen is really the time you start growing - for boys. Totoy na totoy ka pa nyan!

He's playing not just with or against upperclassmen but he's excelling in top level high school basketball. He has three more years of maturing and growing up to do. His dad is 6'2 and the mom is 5'7 - a volleyball player during her years I hear. He's got the genes, he's got the game, and he definitely has the mojo for the game of basketball. I'll watch this kid so I can see for myself the development of the face of Philippine basketball in the future.

[path_finder]

freshman, 14 y/o, shooter! astig diba? saan ka pa!

[kungpow]

He kinda looks like Jojo Lastimosa...I wonder if....heheheheh

[tylerdude]

^ haha

what's height na ba currently?

[rhk111]

Kieffer Ravena
- Only a High School freshman as of 2007, but already a major force in his school varsity team
- Doesn't have his father's height or heft, yet, but already a much better ballhandler
- Good outside shot, great one on one moves facing the basket
- If he grows to be his father's size while retaining his current skills & quickness, could be a major, major force in Philippine basketball

[LeronLeronSinta]

5'7" tall at 14 years of age. hmmmm... posibleng umakyat pa ang batang ito up to, maybe, 5'11" to 6'0" by the time he reaches 17 years of age pero sa tingin ko 2 or 3 ang natural basketball positions ng batang ito.

[Kambei]

Where can I buy a Ravena jersey? Haha...

Anyway, it was his coming out party that game. He showed absolutely no fear at all.

I was already impresses with his play in the first half, even before he went crazy in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

He had a nice coast to coast attempt, a spin move to a drop pass.

In the 2nd half, he did everything. He showed his touch by hitting a few Tony Parker-like floaters. He displayed his vision by working the give-and-go and pick-roll-plays, and by making a couple of nice interior passes. He challenged defenders for some difficult lay-ups.

I'm really excited for the next 7 or 8 years.

[Big Ticket]

this kid is the real deal....he has a nice touch from 3-pt area, a great floater and excellent playmaking skills....and most of all, buo ang loob....

with the proper guidance of parents bong and mozzie, this kid is really the future of phil. basketball....

also can't wait to watch ray ray parks in action hehe..

[DEJA BLUE]

The future of ATENEO BASKETBALL. ONE BIG FIGHT!

[anghusay]

First time I saw Keifer play was when he was still in La Salle Greenhills. Grade 6 ata sya nun. He didn't have 3 point range back then but he had the baseline drives similar to that of his father.

I guess that's way Manny Pangilinan moved heaven and earth to have Keifer transfer to AHS. A parent of Keifer's LSGH team mate told me that MVP offered a full scholarship all the way up to college for Keifer and guaranteed employment for Bong Ravena as an assistant coach at TnT.

Kalain mo yun 14 years old pa lang suppotado na nya father nya. This kid has tons of talent and a definite headache for all opposing teams.

[kungpow]

baka magteam-up pa sila ni rayray parks for ateneo...whoa!

[hacksaw]

October 2004. It was the MILO SBP/Passarelle championship at the Pasig Arena featuring the Ateneo GS team vs LSGH.

12 seconds to go in the 4th Q. Ateneo leads by 2, 8 seconds with LSGH throwing in their front court. Daroca (lsgh) throws a pass to Ravena (lsgh) who escapes from through a double screen for a practically unmolested shot in front of the basket....which he misses. Ateneo wins it.

After the game parents of the LSGH team start blaming Ravena for the loss. The boy takes it personally and almost every night he repeats the play in backyard basketball court asking himself why the shot didnt go in.

The following school year he leaves LSGH for Loyola. The reat is history.

:)

[kungpow]

It is stories like this (if it is true) that makes basketball players into legends hehehe...

And what's with the parents blaming the kid for the loss??? What kind of grown-ups are those people? Shame on them !! (well if it is true)


October 2004. It was the MILO SBP/Passarelle championship at the Pasig Arena featuring the Ateneo GS team vs LSGH.

12 seconds to go in the 4th Q. Ateneo leads by 2, 8 seconds with LSGH throwing in their front court. Daroca (lsgh) throws a pass to Ravena (lsgh) who escapes from through a double screen for a practically unmolested shot in front of the basket....which he misses. Ateneo wins it.

After the game parents of the LSGH team start blaming Ravena for the loss. The boy takes it personally and almost every night he repeats the play in backyard basketball court asking himself why the shot didnt go in.

The following school year he leaves LSGH for Loyola. The reat is history.

:)

[jancarlo]

Hay nako. Bakit ganon yung ibang parents nila similar to what happened naman dun sa Passerelle. When Ateneo won the game, yung ibang parents ng La Salle sinugod ang Ateneo players at nagkasuntukan pa. Imagine, bata pa yung pinapatulan. Tsk tsk tsk. Nakakainis lang yung ibang parents eh.

[bigbadwolf]

I saw him play for Ateneo in one of the summer leagues held at Club650. They almost won against a college computer school (a small school, can't remember the name). Almost won. Against players who are probably at least 5 years older than him. High school team against a college team. Wow.

[keener]

I guess that's way Manny Pangilinan moved heaven and earth to have Keifer transfer to AHS. A parent of Keifer's LSGH team mate told me that MVP offered a full scholarship all the way up to college for Keifer and guaranteed employment for Bong Ravena as an assistant coach at TnT.



MVP offered a similar deal to Tim Capacio. The package was so nice that Eli and Tim decided to leave their homes in Paranaque to rent a condo infront of the Ateneo just so Tim can be more comfortable.

La Salle may be losing its players to Ateneo but give credit to where it is due. Iba talaga pag may MVP. Opportunities are given not just to the kids but to the fathers as well.

[hey_you]

I guess that's way Manny Pangilinan moved heaven and earth to have Keifer transfer to AHS. A parent of Keifer's LSGH team mate told me that MVP offered a full scholarship all the way up to college for Keifer and guaranteed employment for Bong Ravena as an assistant coach at TnT.

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this is the real reason he transfered to ateneo. 100% correct. kiefer didnt want to leave but bong ravena decided on what he thought was best for his family. in a way you cant blame him, trabaho siyempre ang importante tsaka future ng anak niya because of the guarranteed scholarship. to each his own.

[LongBow]

alot of potential in this young kid.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9WJcSUSYd8E

[therapist20069]

In a few years from now, I could almost hear Sev Sarmenta exclaim:

"A spec-TAC-ular move by Kieffer Ravena!"

During Game One of the ADMU-DLSU junior finals, Kieffer stole the ball twice off the same point guard in the backcourt.

One-on-one, harapan, all by his lonesome.

This kid not only has scoring skills and high-flying drives like his father but defensive presence and court savvy.

GRABE! I can imagine all the pressure on this young freshman to perform because of all the expectations and comparisons to his famous father.

Imagine if he suddenly shoots up to 6'0 and above. The future of Philippine basketball.

[Boy Scout]

MVP offered a similar deal to Tim Capacio. The package was so nice that Eli and Tim decided to leave their homes in Paranaque to rent a condo infront of the Ateneo just so Tim can be more comfortable.

La Salle may be losing its players to Ateneo but give credit to where it is due. Iba talaga pag may MVP. Opportunities are given not just to the kids but to the fathers as well.

No Big Loss for La Salle. Ateneo got the wrong Capacio. We have Jerry Codinera while you are stuck with a Harmon Codinera!

[Boy Scout]

MVP offered a similar deal to Tim Capacio. The package was so nice that Eli and Tim decided to leave their homes in Paranaque to rent a condo infront of the Ateneo just so Tim can be more comfortable.

La Salle may be losing its players to Ateneo but give credit to where it is due. Iba talaga pag may MVP. Opportunities are given not just to the kids but to the fathers as well.

No Big Loss for La Salle. Ateneo got the wrong Capacio. We have Jerry Codinera while you are stuck with a Harmon Codinera!

[Big Ticket]

did keifer win the rookie of the year award in the UAAP juniors?

[tco3]

did keifer win the rookie of the year award in the UAAP juniors?

He didn't. It was a player from UPIS who bagged the ROY award. :)

[ixxie_]

First time I saw Keifer play was when he was still in La Salle Greenhills. Grade 6 ata sya nun. He didn't have 3 point range back then but he had the baseline drives similar to that of his father.

I guess that's way Manny Pangilinan moved heaven and earth to have Keifer transfer to AHS. A parent of Keifer's LSGH team mate told me that MVP offered a full scholarship all the way up to college for Keifer and guaranteed employment for Bong Ravena as an assistant coach at TnT.

Kalain mo yun 14 years old pa lang suppotado na nya father nya. This kid has tons of talent and a definite headache for all opposing teams.

i've heard of this. nakakalungkot isipin na linipat si Keifer kasi unemployed yung dad niya and his dad was offered a job in exchange for keifer's transfer to AHS. kung lumaki tong magaling, di ko makakalimutan na LSGH ang pinanggalingan niya, at LSGH din ang pinagkatiwalaan ni Bong Ravena. sana nagoffer na rin ang LSGH ng ganun. :(

[lovejones]

The kid's only 13

[rhk111]

I would imagine that DLSU should have about the same "resources" as ADMU.

[Park Hae Jin]

i saw kiefer ravena with his mom mozzy ravena and his dad bong ravena after the game 2 of the finals, all of them are wearing red, he wasnt tall, he was small and skinny, pero galing maglaro, bright future for this kid

[philippeVIII]

counting your "eagles" before they hatch, ey?! nyehehehe :naughty:

keep it up! ;)

[chinita18]

I guess he'll even be better than his father...maganda to pagdating ng college..

[mysandwedge]

i thought these kinds of offers are not allowed in the amateur ranks?

i am of course refering to mr. pangilinan's shameless tactics.

[jawbreaker_17]

i love kiefer ravena! haha. i thought i'm the only one who noticed him during the games. but oh, alot have noticed him too! galing. :)

[Boy Scout]

Ateneo can have Kiefer Ravena! Wait till you see de la Paz and Van ___stal of DLSZ! I assure you that even with their "so called" veteran players, Ateneo will not win the UAAP Juniors Championship over the next two years.

See yah Jamike;) looks like next year will be your last season with the eaglets.

How often do you see a 6'5 high school sophomore who used to be a soccer and track and field athlete in Europe?

[jancarlo]

^Hmm. Ah yeah, I always see him pag games, parang medyo red hair na Australian. He better bulk up lang kasi medyo mas payat pa ata siya kay Rico Maierhofer.

Saka ano ba, Jamike Jarin? Matatanggal? Even the diehards of other schools would laugh at your statement. :lol:

[keener]

Ateneo can have Kiefer Ravena! Wait till you see de la Paz and Van ___stal of DLSZ! I assure you that even with their "so called" veteran players, Ateneo will not win the UAAP Juniors Championship over the next two years.

See yah Jamike;) looks like next year will be your last season with the eaglets.

How often do you see a 6'5 high school sophomore who used to be a soccer and track and field athlete in Europe?

don't get too excited.

keep quiet nga.

[jawbreaker_17]

btw guys, what is the jersey number of kiefer? :)

[Boy Scout]

Saka ano ba, Jamike Jarin? Matatanggal? Even the diehards of other schools would laugh at your statement. :lol:[/QUOTE]

First of all, I would like to thank Jancarlo for your negative comments against DLSZ before the finals. FYI, A certain DLSZ alumni collated all of your comments from PEX and gave it to the players to motivate them going into the finals. Thanks bro and I hope you do it again next year.

Lastly, you are probably right that Ateneo will keep Jamike Jarin as juniors coach. Rarely will you see in the History of UAAP basketball that the Juniors and Seniors Basketball coach share a striking resemblance with each other.

Again thank you for motivating our players to win the Juniors crown.

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[lady_baller21]

katulad ng hinihirit niyo sa seniors namin, 2nd time niyo?

[keener]

katulad ng hinihirit niyo sa seniors namin, 2nd time niyo?

So gantihan? :lol:

Pag kinurot, mangungurot din? :naughty:

Jancarlo: Pareho yung built ng bata kay Rico. Like Rico when he started, the kid is a project. Sana lang ma-maintain ang athleticism at maturuan ng proper basketball. Ala- Tim Duncan... FUNDAMENTALS ang kelangan.

[lady_baller21]

So gantihan? :lol:

Pag kinurot, mangungurot din? :naughty:

Jancarlo: Pareho yung built ng bata kay Rico. Like Rico when he started, the kid is a project. Sana lang ma-maintain ang athleticism at maturuan ng proper basketball. Ala- Tim Duncan... FUNDAMENTALS ang kelangan. oy joke lang yun ha bigla ko lang naalala hahaha peace nakikipagkulitan lang hehe

[baludoy]

magaling nga iyong bata. pero i bet there are equally superb young ball players around the country. kulang lang ng exposure

btw, i see nothing wrong nor unusual w/ kiefer's transfer to ateneo high. during my freshman year in ahs, there were half a dozen transferees from lsgh. i remember three of them were former varsity players of lsgh (2 were hoopsters while the other 1 was a tennis player). the 2 hoopsters went on to play for ahs (the other one is now an asst coach of the blue eagles) even though there were no scholarships offered then (ang sarap talaga ngayon maging varsity, libre na education may allowance pa:) ) sa batch ko din maraming transferees from san beda GS tapos 5 kami galing colegio de san agustin. madami from claret GS

sorry medyo ot na :lol:

[keener]

I just hope that along with Josh Webb, he would lead the way towards the continuous improvement of second and third generation kids with basketball pedigree.

Ngayon palang padating yung mga anak ng players na mukhang mas magaling sa fathers nila. Especially in the UAAP wherein as of now, mukhang si Renren lang yung player that became better than his father. This will change pag dating nila Webb, Ravena, Gwyne Capacio, etc. I just hope Kobe Paras would grow taller than his father. :D These guys will be the future of Philippine Basketball.

[greatstuff]

When Ravena becomes a dominant force in the Blue Eagles in lets say, 3 years from now, you still have to remember that he still started his so-called "career" in La Salle Green Hills, that is where he got discovered, that is where he was nurtured, so if those Ateneans will be bragging that they have him, shame on them, he was a Lasallian when Pangilinan "bought" him from La Salle. Out of desperation, maybe?

[last.dodo.bird]

When Ravena becomes a dominant force in the Blue Eagles in lets say, 3 years from now, you still have to remember that he still started his so-called "career" in La Salle Green Hills, that is where he got discovered, that is where he was nurtured, so if those Ateneans will be bragging that they have him, shame on them, he was a Lasallian when Pangilinan "bought" him from La Salle. Out of desperation, maybe?
:lol: @ "nurtured"

read:
October 2004. It was the MILO SBP/Passarelle championship at the Pasig Arena featuring the Ateneo GS team vs LSGH.

12 seconds to go in the 4th Q. Ateneo leads by 2, 8 seconds with LSGH throwing in their front court. Daroca (lsgh) throws a pass to Ravena (lsgh) who escapes from through a double screen for a practically unmolested shot in front of the basket....which he misses. Ateneo wins it.

After the game parents of the LSGH team start blaming Ravena for the loss. The boy takes it personally and almost every night he repeats the play in backyard basketball court asking himself why the shot didnt go in.

The following school year he leaves LSGH for Loyola. The reat is history.

:)

[number10eliza]

photos please.

[MakaveliLives]

^ check the youtube link posted by the other poster

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9WJcSUSYd8E

This kid's got game! Buti nalang hindi nya namana yung form ng set shot ng erpats nya..hehehe

[mozzy]

Hi just for everyone's info, Bong Ravena has been working with the PLDT Franchise since year 2000, which means that Kiefer was just 6 years old when he started with them. Let's give credit where credit is due, kawawa naman.

[theo78]

^oo nga naman...tsaka bait na bata yang si kiefer...

[jawbreaker_17]

^ahaha! funny. 2nd time nga. okay lang, mag-improve pa si kiefer. hindi na sila makaka-3rd. way to go, girl! :D

[Boying]

Hi just for everyone's info, Bong Ravena has been working with the PLDT Franchise since year 2000, which means that Kiefer was just 6 years old when he started with them. Let's give credit where credit is due, kawawa naman.

kayo po ba ang asawa ni Bong Ravena
( idol ko ito galing ng tira akala mo tsamba)

[greenblade]

i hope he would goes back to where he belongs which to be a true lasalite..

[a76]

uhm---greenblade, if kiefer does read your post----I think he will say that his parents made the right decision :)

[Tigre]

^ Sabagay. Between La Salle and Ateneo, siyempre mas sikat at mas magaling talaga ang Ateneo. Hindi pa madaya at win at all costs. Can't blame the parents and the kid.

[p**ty t*ng]

i hope he would goes back to where he belongs which to be a true lasalite..
Mas lalong matatakot si Kiefer bumalik niyan kapag ganyan ang statements ng green side :D .

[p**ty t*ng]

Hi just for everyone's info, Bong Ravena has been working with the PLDT Franchise since year 2000, which means that Kiefer was just 6 years old when he started with them. Let's give credit where credit is due, kawawa naman.
If I remember right Talk n' text was also Bong Ravena's last PBA team before jumping to the Pasig Rizal Pirates of the MBA.

[Katchatore]

Kay tagal mo mang nawala... babalik ka rin... :D

[jarthel]

^ Sabagay. Between La Salle and Ateneo, siyempre mas sikat at mas magaling talaga ang Ateneo. Hindi pa madaya at win at all costs. Can't blame the parents and the kid.

LOSER! :rotflmao:

[mozzy]

kayo po ba ang asawa ni Bong Ravena
( idol ko ito galing ng tira akala mo tsamba)

he he he o nga ganun nga yun tira nya! tnx tnx God bless!:lol: :lol:

[Boy Scout]

Mas lalong matatakot si Kiefer bumalik niyan kapag ganyan ang statements ng green side :D .

Sa tingin ko poser lang yan si greenblade. Nagpapangap lang na lasalista kaya mali ang grammar.*peace*

[mysandwedge]

^^ la salista yan, pare.

parang si cardona, o si sharma magsalita e.

[Big Ticket]

If I remember right Talk n' text was also Bong Ravena's last PBA team before jumping to the Pasig Rizal Pirates of the MBA.

no, it was purefoods.....he was their starting 2-guard back then....pero nun bumalik sya sa PBA from the MBA, sa talk n text sya napunta....as TNT assumed his humungous contract....

[chokois]

Mozzy must be very proud of his son.

Mozzy Ravena played for UST wayback in her college life as volleyball player. She is currently busy as a commentator for the Shakey's v-league.

Mozzy even acknowledged Kiefer once when she did the commentator's job of a certain game. forgot the date. basta it was bout pasarelle.

[lovejones]

grabe, the son of two athletes. kaya pala blessed

[Mr. Brownstone]

http://bleachersbrew.blogspot.com/2007/11/son-rises-chat-with-kiefer-ravena.html

[Boy Scout]

Bleachers' Brew

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Juniors Championship
Shades of the seniors. The Junior Archers upset the Blue Eaglets 76-74 in Game 1. The Blue Eaglets beat the Junior Archers twice during the elims, then found themselves faltering when it counted the most.

I thought that in the last five minutes the execution, the rotation and substitution by the Blue Eaglets was bad. Why wasn't Al Bugarin fielded in the game's last minute? Why send in a small shooter in Stu Balmaceda to replace Frank Golla when you only need two points and a high percentage shot? Why go with Ael Banal who was having a horrible shooting day when they should have stuck with Kiefer Ravena? DLSZ was in penalty with like five minutes to go, so why was the team settling for mostly jumpshots? With the game on the line and you're behind by two points, ideally you get a shot off as soon as possible. In case the team misses, they have a chance for an offensive rebound and a putback or if the opponent gets the ball, to give a foul to make it a two possession game.

And the fact they they took a number of shots with the clock winding down smacks of poor decision making.

That was a won game, brothers.

[Wez]

It's okay to lose in basketball. After all, that's DLSU's forte. The important thing is, Ateneo is better in academics. That's why the Ateneo is in the THES Top 500 and DLSU isn't. Nuff said. :rotflmao:

[babyiee_11]

^Shut up. In this forum, the "U-A-A-P G-A-M-E-S" forum, UAAP, games, forum, I think it's quite obvious where we put importance on at least on this side of the web. Freshie ka ba sa ateneo?

[Boy Scout]

Extended Version of the Video Tribute to the 2007-2008 Junior Archers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCrPaRH-f4c

[kingarcher25]

Nakita ko maglaro si keifer ng live nung game ng UAAP Jrs. Championship. He is one hell of a player. Keifer is La Salle's loss. No doubt about it. Hanap na lang kami ng ibang pwedeng pantapat kay keifer once he plays for Ateneo (if he joins ateneo) in the srs division. Hopefully someone from LSGH or Zobel.

Kudos to Ateneo for convincing the Ravenas na i-transfer Keifer. Yung issue na nabili e wala sa akin yun kung totoo o hindi. If the parents think that Keifer will be better in Ateneo then they are just doing their role as parents with or without the bribe.

Good luck to Keifer! May the future of Ateneo basketball stays in Ateneo this time.

Siyempre, we are still hoping for Keifer to do a BJ Manalo pero kung hindi talaga mangyayari e ok lang. hehehe!

[BLACKSEDAN]

^

Napunta naman si Mark Franco sa LSGH and Zobel ended up with the nephew of Fritz Gaston from Bacolod. Both boys will be playing for their respective schools next season after the required residency period this season.

[p**ty t*ng]

Kudos to Ateneo for convincing the Ravenas na i-transfer Keifer. Yung issue na nabili e wala sa akin yun kung totoo o hindi. If the parents think that Keifer will be better in Ateneo then they are just doing their role as parents with or without the bribe.
Hindi naman siguro bribe tawag dun :) .

Good luck to Keifer! May the future of Ateneo basketball stays in Ateneo this time.

Siyempre, we are still hoping for Keifer to do a BJ Manalo pero kung hindi talaga mangyayari e ok lang. hehehe!
We hope Keifer would stay the course too.

[kingarcher25]

Hindi naman siguro bribe tawag dun :) .


We hope Keifer would stay the course too.

Oo nga. sorry. wrong choice of word. I should have used the word "offer"

[leaaaaaaaaaaaa]

kiefer ravena kinda reminds me of a young atkins.

[leaaaaaaaaaaaa]

http://profiles.friendster.com/16295174 -------- is this kiefer ravena's friendster?

[jancarlo]

^Haha. I doubt it. Jologs ka pag nagfe-Friendster ka sa Ateneo High. Multiply ang trend sa amin.

[leaaaaaaaaaaaa]

^ you atenean? does he have multiply?

[leaaaaaaaaaaaa]

anyway, found his multiply. http://ilovepialopa.multiplycom

[pablohoney36]

^Haha. I doubt it. Jologs ka pag nagfe-Friendster ka sa Ateneo High. Multiply ang trend sa amin.

The best post... ever.
LOL

[letsgo]

Masuerte Ateneo they got Ravena. I hope when La Salle gets a good player, hindi na sila maging holier than thou at magsasabing it just happened dahil sa lagay. Kitang kita naman na guilty rin sila.

[tawkytawny]

Since Bong is a member of the coaching staff of UE, is there any chance that Kiefer might suit up for the Warriors? Pag nangyari yan, paano na ang investment ng Ateneo sa bata?

[bagtitako]

I doubt this would happen and Bong is very supportive of his son during Ateneo games and honestly speaking even though he is in the coaching staff of UE he wont sacrifice a better educational future for his son. Just like how a handful of other players who try to have their children go to ADMU or DLSU.

[theo78]

we will see what will happen next for kiefer di ba? :)

[tawkytawny]

I doubt this would happen and Bong is very supportive of his son during Ateneo games and honestly speaking even though he is in the coaching staff of UE he wont sacrifice a better educational future for his son. Just like how a handful of other players who try to have their children go to ADMU or DLSU.

Sinong kayang anak ang ayaw na maglaro para sa kanyang ama? Is money thicker than blood?

Baligtarin natin kung merong anak na magaling si Black o si Franz at maglalaro sa kalabang team, papayag ba sila?

[bagtitako]

Sinong kayang anak ang ayaw na maglaro para sa kanyang ama? Is money thicker than blood?

Baligtarin natin kung merong anak na magaling si Black o si Franz at maglalaro sa kalabang team, papayag ba sila?


Sorry you did not get my point. It was not a question as to whether Kiefer would want to play for his dad or not but better judgement would say the father (Bong) himself I guess made sure beyond basketball his son would get a good education and future beyond his basketball playing days.

[ALvs]

Surprised to see that no one is talking about him after that performance on Saturday.

MANILA, Philippines – (UPDATE) Kiefer Ravena poured in a career-high 33 points to lift the Ateneo Blue Eaglets to an 80-73 win over rivals La Salle Zobel Green Archers in the series opener of this season’s UAAP juniors basketball championships at the Arena in San Juan.

After a 38-all deadlock at halftime, Ravena, son former PBA swingman Bong Ravena, knocked in 15 points in the second half via a variety of offensive moves from inside and outside paint.

"Kiefer is a good boy and he worked hard for the team but it's still Ateneo's team not just Kiefer’s," said Eaglets coach Jamike Jarin, noting that Ateneo’s big men like Paolo Bugarin and Von Pessumal also stepped up for the team.

Nico Elorde topscored for the Junior Archers with 18 points, including a four-point play late in the latter half of the fourth quarter that managed to cut down Ateneo’s lead to four points.

"Nico (Elorde) is a good friend of mine and we're always guarding each other since two years ago," Ravena said on his La Salle counterpart.

On the women's basketball, the Adamson University Lady Falcons clinched the first win in the title series over the defending champion Far Eastern University, 58-51.

Team captain Katherine Sandel topscored with 18 points and this year’s most valuable player Analyn Almasan added 14 points and 16 rebounds for the Lady Falcons, who led at halftime, 28-23.

Game 2 of both ladies and juniors championship series is scheduled on Tuesday.


The scores:
Women’s
AdU-58 Sandel 18, Almasan 14, Bernardo 6, Ortega 5, Mangahas 5, Tecson 4, Buendia 4, Roque 2
FEU-51 Palmera 18, Positos 14, Lim 12, Sicat 3, Soriano 2, Cabochan 2

Juniors
ADMU-80 Ravena 33, Bugarin 10, Sinco 8, Pessumal 8, Dumrique 6, Banal 6, Reyes 5, Unson 5
DLSZ-73 Elorde 18, Capacio 15, Van Opstal 12, Fortuna 12, Dela Paz 12, Sevilla 2, Roxas 2

33pts, 9 rebs, 4ass, 3stls, 3blks. Kumbaga sa fantasy basketball, ROTO GOLD!:D

He's got a year left in high school, which is okay since Salamat and Buenafe will still be with ADMU next year.

[theeng69]

career high? wrong. he has 38 as his career best.

what amazes me about this kid is not his skills but his athleticism. he can dunk a ball at 5'9''. that's very difficult to do even for the brothers in the United States. If you look at the pictures of his game, you could see the amazing elevation in his jump shots. he jumps more than a foot high when he shoots and that is very difficult to cover even for taller guards. he can reach at most 6 feet tall since bata pa naman siya. and I hope to see more of his hops in the Ateneo seniors. The long line of Ateneo dunkers will soon be reconnected by this guy.

[kungpow]

There was already a thread about Kiefer Ravena from last season...

When he also stood out as a sophomore...drilling all those clutch three-pointers...

[ALvs]

"“He’s a good boy,” Ateneo coach Jamike Jarin said of the 15-year-old son of ex-pro Bong Ravena."

15 years old. Wow. He is the future of Philippine basketball.

[isagani_c]

old thread http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=317363 . please merge

[theo78]

quote of the week: 'he is a good boy'...

congrats kiefer! =)

[obscura]

career high? wrong. he has 38 as his career best.

what amazes me about this kid is not his skills but his athleticism. he can dunk a ball at 5'9''. that's very difficult to do even for the brothers in the United States. If you look at the pictures of his game, you could see the amazing elevation in his jump shots. he jumps more than a foot high when he shoots and that is very difficult to cover even for taller guards. he can reach at most 6 feet tall since bata pa naman siya. and I hope to see more of his hops in the Ateneo seniors. The long line of Ateneo dunkers will soon be reconnected by this guy.

is he really 5'9"?

nokia rp youth U-16 lists him at 5'11" (von pessumal at 6'1") while nike summer league have him at 5'9".

[Mister JT]

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[drose1]

Anybody knows his Friendster/Facebook account ?
I want some informations about him and his young basketball career.

[marimekko]

baka sa UE yan mag college... kung maganda ang offer ni bong tan....

[De-Strad]

baka sa UE yan mag college... kung maganda ang offer ni bong tan....

MVP got him and gave him a full scholarship after his 6th grade in LSGH and he's in Ateneo until college na.:D

[Derrick_Rose#1]

Magaling na bata.

[BLACKSEDAN]

Sinong kayang anak ang ayaw na maglaro para sa kanyang ama? Is money thicker than blood?

Baligtarin natin kung merong anak na magaling si Black o si Franz at maglalaro sa kalabang team, papayag ba sila?

To answer your question, ask the family of Leo Austria who happens to be the head coach of Adamson. There was no quid pro quo between Austria and Adamson management that Bacon would have to play for the school if Leo wanted to coach the Falcons. The father did not stand in the way of his son playing for ADMU,

It also almost happened again this past summer. The youngest son of coach Alas received a scholarship offer from DLSU. Alas was practicing with DLSU when he decided to play for his father at Letran. It did not help the cause of DLSU that it also signed Banal, Marata and Manguera to play the 2/3 position. There was another wing player signed by DLSU but he is for future delivery. :naughty:

[theeng69]

is he really 5'9"?

nokia rp youth U-16 lists him at 5'11" (von pessumal at 6'1") while nike summer league have him at 5'9".
I've seen him in person and didn't look like 5'11 at all. Really more like a 5'9'' for me. But God he's just 15. Imagine how many growth years he's got. He'll be a scoring machine for Ateneo in the future.:D

[ivankups22]

To answer your question, ask the family of Leo Austria who happens to be the head coach of Adamson. There was no quid pro quo between Austria and Adamson management that Bacon would have to play for the school if Leo wanted to coach the Falcons. The father did not stand in the way of his son playing for ADMU,

It also almost happened again this past summer. The youngest son of coach Alas received a scholarship offer from DLSU. Alas was practicing with DLSU when he decided to play for his father at Letran. It did not help the cause of DLSU that it also signed Banal, Marata and Manguera to play the 2/3 position. There was another wing player signed by DLSU but he is for future delivery. :naughty:

For the sake of this discussion, I don't think Bacon can compare to Ravena. Bacon could've played anywhere and no one would've cared except maybe his friends and family, not because he's a bad player but because he is not in the same league as Ravena. Ravena would be a sought after rookie after high school and it's good for Ateneo that they have him in their fold as early as high school. This Ravena guy plays beyond his years and if he continues to work hard, maintains discipline, and be injury free, this guy can be the King Eagle when his time comes. Unless of course he gets a career ending injury (ahem, BJ Manalo anyone) I think this kid will be one of the best homegrown talent even in the professional ranks...

[draven77]

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[draven77]

Franky's is located at Katipunan Ave. cor. Rajah Matanda St., Proj. 4, QC.

[letsgo]

Kiefer Ravena's talent is impressive. Its good that he was able to help his Dad get a job. What I don't like is MVP's tactics of getting players. Schools are not competing on a level playing field since not all schools have a billionaire's war chest to acquire good players.

[bang]

For the sake of this discussion, I don't think Bacon can compare to Ravena. Bacon could've played anywhere and no one would've cared except maybe his friends and family, not because he's a bad player but because he is not in the same league as Ravena. Ravena would be a sought after rookie after high school and it's good for Ateneo that they have him in their fold as early as high school. This Ravena guy plays beyond his years and if he continues to work hard, maintains discipline, and be injury free, this guy can be the King Eagle when his time comes. Unless of course he gets a career ending injury (ahem, BJ Manalo anyone) I think this kid will be one of the best homegrown talent even in the professional ranks...

Bacon may not have been as good as Ravena but he was star in High School. Remember, he was the MVP in his last year and was a far better shooter back then. For some reason, he lost his shooting touch when he entered college.

Anyway, I don't think Bong Ravena will force his son to play for UE. Let's face it, UE's education is not as highly regarded as that of Ateneo, UP, DLSU or UST. While UE may have some successful graduates, the success rate of the the students from the said schools are generally higher.

[RuckuS]

Kiefer Ravena's talent is impressive. Its good that he was able to help his Dad get a job. What I don't like is MVP's tactics of getting players. Schools are not competing on a level playing field since not all schools have a billionaire's war chest to acquire good players.

tama na ngawa, work really, really hard and someday you too might become CEO of a Telecommunications Empire and be a billionaire yourself. and when you do become one, set aside a few millions of your "barya barya" to donate to your school's basketball program. ok? *okay*

kasalanan ba yun ng Ateneo that they have LOTS of successful alumni willing to shell out millions of their personal money just to donate to their school? (dont even think that MVP is the ONLY one donating to the team, he's the most visible yes, but there are many others in the background also donating) ..

[Renvoi]

If this kid reaches a height of at least 6'3" by the time he is playing for the Seniors' varsity... then the rest of the teams can all forget about attempting to contain him. Elite-level stud in the making.

[HeadBaker]

Kiefer played the point the whole game. He never got his rhythm offensively and was contained by the bigs of Dlsz.

Ateneo was in the lead the whole game even if they were shooting poorly and Dlsz was dominant defensively.

Imho, mali yung rotation and diskarte ni Jamike. Plus, the timing of his timeout in the 4th was just plain HORRIBLE.

[drose1]

Kiefer scored only 6 points because of the Jr. Archers defended him greatly.
I hope Kiefer will take over Game 3.

[HoGo]

si ravena *** ang bumubuhat ng admu jrs. bantayan *** yan. solve na problema.

Magaling sya pro kung hndi sya tatangkad mahihirapan sya sa seniors.

[obscura]

He kinda looks like Jojo Lastimosa...I wonder if....heheheheh

there is indeed an uncanny resemblance between kiefer and former eagle jojo lastimosa (who watched yesterday's game with his wife butchik).

[last.dodo.bird]

Not to spark any kind of "chismis" and sensationalize anything, but... I was just wondering: How well liked is Kiefer amongst his teammates and the Ateneo community? I'm sure that he's liked A LOT since he's an amazing player, although I can't help but wonder if there are people that dislike him as well.

First is that some teammates and supporters could possibly dislike him because they may think he's a ballhog or "bwakaw." Let's face it, he does hold the ball and take the shot a lot of times, especially in such a team-oriented system such as Coach Jamike's. In the last two games of the championship when he was relatively cold, he kept on taking the shot. I'm not calling him a ballhog, but it's not a far stretch of the imagination to think otherwise.

Second is that he seems relatively low profile. All the times I've seen him during games, before games, after games, timeouts & dead-ball situations... parang chill tsaka tahimik lang siya. That gives me the impression that he's either really just a nice, humble & quiet kid; OR, he might not be that personable.

Anyway... yun lang. There is absolutely nothing factual with my conclusions. All of these are just things that I think about. Gusto kong tinitignan yung mga "in between the lines" eh. I hope some people who know more about the team/players could give their .02 about this. Hehe.

Oh, and one last thing: Hiwalay ba yung magulang ni Kiefer? I always see them seated in separate parts of the arena during the Ateneo games...

[theeng69]

Not to spark any kind of "chismis" and sensationalize anything, but... I was just wondering: How well liked is Kiefer amongst his teammates and the Ateneo community? I'm sure that he's liked A LOT since he's an amazing player, although I can't help but wonder if there are people that dislike him as well.

First is that some teammates and supporters could possibly dislike him because they may think he's a ballhog or "bwakaw." Let's face it, he does hold the ball and take the shot a lot of times, especially in such a team-oriented system such as Coach Jamike's. In the last two games of the championship when he was relatively cold, he kept on taking the shot. I'm not calling him a ballhog, but it's not a far stretch of the imagination to think otherwise.

Second is that he seems relatively low profile. All the times I've seen him during games, before games, after games, timeouts & dead-ball situations... parang chill tsaka tahimik lang siya. That gives me the impression that he's either really just a nice, humble & quiet kid; OR, he might not be that personable.

Anyway... yun lang. There is absolutely nothing factual with my conclusions. All of these are just things that I think about. Gusto kong tinitignan yung mga "in between the lines" eh. I hope some people who know more about the team/players could give their .02 about this. Hehe.

Oh, and one last thing: Hiwalay ba yung magulang ni Kiefer? I always see them seated in separate parts of the arena during the Ateneo games...

I think he's just like a Chris Tiu type of a player. Magaling pero aloof. Siguro naman nung game 2, confident siya because of the game 1 results pero since bata pa, medyo mali ang kanyang mga decisions. And I don't think separated parents niya. I think his mom just sits separately to get better camera angles. you will always see her with her camera with a huge lense.

[last.dodo.bird]

I think he's just like a Chris Tiu type of a player. Magaling pero aloof. Siguro naman nung game 2, confident siya because of the game 1 results pero since bata pa, medyo mali ang kanyang mga decisions.
Okay... considering the Chris Tiu comparison, I sort of get it now. At least he's not a brash and outspoken type of marquee player with excessive swagger. Sana maging katulad nga siya ni Chris Tiu and JV Casio in terms of skill and personality. Or aloof kaya na katulad ni Kobe na merong ibang tao at teammates na medyo di siya trip?

I was only able to catch the 2nd half of Game 3 though and Kiefer seemed really off offensively except for several assists. Malamig din ba siya nung first half? Would you say he played well in Game 3 or he should have looked for his teammates more?

And I don't think separated parents niya. I think his mom just sits separately to get better camera angles. you will always see her with her camera with a huge lense.
Ah oks. Never ko kasi nakikita magkasama parents niya eh :lol: Ganda ng lente ni Mozzy, nakakainggit. Haha.

[the_bonfire]

san ba nakakabili ng replica ng mga jersey ng blue eagles at magkano?

[theeng69]

san ba nakakabili ng replica ng mga jersey ng blue eagles at magkano?
try mo sa A-shop in Ateneo.

I also remember people in an Ateneo forum claiming that they can order authentic Atenean jerseys with the names of the players and the sponsors to boot for a little over 800 pesos. I just forgot which forum yun.

[HeadBaker]

si ravena *** ang bumubuhat ng admu jrs. bantayan *** yan. solve na problema.


mali ka nanaman BOY. :rolleyes:

[marozsan]

No Big Loss for La Salle. Ateneo got the wrong Capacio. We have Jerry Codinera while you are stuck with a Harmon Codinera!

yes but the jerry codinera (gwyne capacio) is rumored to go to ADMU for college.

Ateneo can have Kiefer Ravena! Wait till you see de la Paz and Van ___stal of DLSZ! I assure you that even with their "so called" veteran players, Ateneo will not win the UAAP Juniors Championship over the next two years.

See yah Jamike;) looks like next year will be your last season with the eaglets.

How often do you see a 6'5 high school sophomore who used to be a soccer and track and field athlete in Europe?

back to back champs!

de la paz is good. van opstal is good but still very raw.

kiefer? PHENOM!

back to back!

[illumina]

san ba nakakabili ng replica ng mga jersey ng blue eagles at magkano?

Got mine at the A-Shop table at Araneta for *gulp* 1100. They'll surely sell them at the Bonfire again, like last year.

[CaptainCharisma]

As Black bobbled on the shoulders of his back-to-back champions, an intriguing future surfaced for the Eagles. The Black and Blue Empire said goodbye to trusted generals Al-Hussaini, Nonoy Baclao and Reyes at game’s end. The figure of an Ateneo Skywalker, however, loomed large on the horizon. The talented “padawan" is Ateneo high school junior and UAAP Juniors Finals MVP Kiefer Ravena. And the force is strong with this one.

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/174197/the-final-score-the-empire-strikes-back

*okay*

[theeng69]

As Black bobbled on the shoulders of his back-to-back champions, an intriguing future surfaced for the Eagles. The Black and Blue Empire said goodbye to trusted generals Al-Hussaini, Nonoy Baclao and Reyes at game’s end. The figure of an Ateneo Skywalker, however, loomed large on the horizon. The talented “padawan" is Ateneo high school junior and UAAP Juniors Finals MVP Kiefer Ravena. And the force is strong with this one.

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/174197/the-final-score-the-empire-strikes-back

*okay*

with the way Kiefer played in the Finals, I say he's ready for "The Trials". Skip Senior year please and don the robes of the Ateneo seniors team. Let Jamike take in a new Padawan in Lambert Tenorio.

[F-22 Raptor]

Bacon may not have been as good as Ravena but he was star in High School. Remember, he was the MVP in his last year and was a far better shooter back then. For some reason, he lost his shooting touch when he entered college.

Anyway, I don't think Bong Ravena will force his son to play for UE. Let's face it, UE's education is not as highly regarded as that of Ateneo, UP, DLSU or UST. While UE may have some successful graduates, the success rate of the the students from the said schools are generally higher.

I just spoke to Keifer Ravena a while ago during the bonfire celebration of the Ateneo Blue Eagles and Blue Eaglets.The first question that I asked him was if he would be playing for the seniors team of Ateneo after he graduates high school and he answered me with a Very Big Yes.His exact words were "Oo Naman".

[F-22 Raptor]

[QUOTE=theeng69;38190965]career high? wrong. he has 38 as his career best.

what amazes me about this kid is not his skills but his athleticism. he can dunk a ball at 5'9''.

Keifer Ravena is 5'11".That was the second question I asked him.I'm 5'8" and while I was talking to him,I was looking up and I'm pretty sure that he was at least 2 inches taller than me.

[tama_na]

Ateneo can have Kiefer Ravena! Wait till you see de la Paz and Van ___stal of DLSZ! I assure you that even with their "so called" veteran players, Ateneo will not win the UAAP Juniors Championship over the next two years.

See yah Jamike;) looks like next year will be your last season with the eaglets.

How often do you see a 6'5 high school sophomore who used to be a soccer and track and field athlete in Europe?

^This was posted Oct.12, 2007.

Fast Forward to Oct.08, 2009

EPIC FAIL of a prediction.:rotflmao:

Back-to-Back kiddo!

[lovejones]

^This was posted Oct.12, 2007.

Fast Forward to Oct.08, 2009

EPIC FAIL of a prediction.:rotflmao:

Back-to-Back kiddo!

excellent search skills haha

[HeadBaker]

[QUOTE=theeng69;38190965]career high? wrong. he has 38 as his career best.

what amazes me about this kid is not his skills but his athleticism. he can dunk a ball at 5'9''.

Keifer Ravena is 5'11".That was the second question I asked him.I'm 5'8" and while I was talking to him,I was looking up and I'm pretty sure that he was at least 2 inches taller than me.

Kiefer is definitely around 5'8" - 5'9". We were both wearing slippers and he was just as tall as me. Maybe with bball shoes he shoots to 5'11" :D

[warrior_colin]

I liket his kid, may future ito. He's on his 3rd year HS right? Naku, sana lang magstay siya sa Ateneo team pagkagraduate niya ng HS.

[ferventzephyr]

I think Kiefer ravena is somewhat like the Ricky Rubio of Philippines. Good teamplayer, ball handling skills, playmake. I think he got everything a junior point guard needs. Though Im not from Ateneo idol ko iyang batang yan ang galing! Pero sana wag lang lumaki ulo..... goodluck K.Ravena

[CaptainCharisma]

unlike Ricky Rubio though, he's a "points guard", if he grows pa (hopefully) he'll be a combo guard, capable of playing the point and scoring the lights out, heck he may even be a small forward like Buenafe, I hope the hype machine will translate to a glorious seniors career

[james bondat]

college na ba to next yr? at kung oo, sa eagles na ** to?

[boogie_man]

college na ba to next yr? at kung oo, sa eagles na ** to?

nope. 3rd yr pa lang si kiefer.

[james bondat]

what the? napanuod ko game nila against dlsu sa finals, isang lay up niya, parang ti-nap pa niya yung ring. tapos yung isa sinubukan niya i fllow up dunk. ****, pano pa next year, jc intal na siya ng hs?:) hahaha! lakas!

[Derrick_Rose#1]

[QUOTE=F-22 Raptor;38302003]

Kiefer is definitely around 5'8" - 5'9". We were both wearing slippers and he was just as tall as me. Maybe with bball shoes he shoots to 5'11" :D

6'1" di ba yung Daddy niya si Bong Ravena, and former volleyball player yung mommy niya.

Until 21 yrs.old naman eh pwede pa siya na tumangkad kapag naging legit 6'1" eh tiyak na napakahirap niya na bantayan sa UAAP Seniors Division.

[theeng69]

[QUOTE=HeadBaker;38305989]

6'1" di ba yung Daddy niya si Bong Ravena, and former volleyball player yung mommy niya.

Until 21 yrs.old naman eh pwede pa siya na tumangkad kapag naging legit 6'1" eh tiyak na napakahirap niya na bantayan sa UAAP Seniors Division.

Kiefer often shoots over his defenders because of his amazing leaping ability. If you look at pictures of his jumpshots, he jumps over a feet high on jumpshots alone. What happens kung 6'1'' na siya? Well, opposing teams would have to assign their Centers or Power Forwards to cover this guard when he's shooting.

[F-22 Raptor]

[QUOTE=F-22 Raptor;38302003]

Kiefer is definitely around 5'8" - 5'9". We were both wearing slippers and he was just as tall as me. Maybe with bball shoes he shoots to 5'11" :D

I don't know.I'm 5'8" but when I was speaking to him(Kiefer Ravena)the other day during the bonfire,I was looking up to him and I'm was pretty sure,he was at least 2 inches taller than me.I even asked him his height and said,5'11".

[Derrick_Rose#1]

64 yrs.old na po kayo baka nabawasan yung height ninyo ng 2-3" inches.

[Milo96]

tama na ngawa, work really, really hard and someday you too might become CEO of a Telecommunications Empire and be a billionaire yourself. and when you do become one, set aside a few millions of your "barya barya" to donate to your school's basketball program. ok? *okay*

kasalanan ba yun ng Ateneo that they have LOTS of successful alumni willing to shell out millions of their personal money just to donate to their school? (dont even think that MVP is the ONLY one donating to the team, he's the most visible yes, but there are many others in the background also donating) ..

If the Billions of the backers was the biggest factor, then the dominant teams would have been NU, and UE. MVP, Anton Montinola, Danding Cojuangco, may be rich but not as rich as Lucio Tan and Henry Sy. They are just the highest ranking employees of their companies.

[Milo96]

with the way Kiefer played in the Finals, I say he's ready for "The Trials". Skip Senior year please and don the robes of the Ateneo seniors team. Let Jamike take in a new Padawan in Lambert Tenorio.

I think Ateneo's Anakin Skywalker is BJ Manalo. He got tempted to go to the dark (green) side. Yet in the end, at the end (of his career), he was wearing blue and white.

Our Luke Skywalker is Kiefer Ravena. With the Jedi Masters (Rabeh, Jai, Nonoy, Chris, JC, Doug, Macky, LA, Larry, Wesley, Rich, Rico, Olsen, Jun, Eric, and Daniel) mere spiritual presences on the court, it is Kiefer who will bring down the evil schemes of the Dark Sith Lord Pumaren.

Our senator Palpatine is Councilor/ Representative Pumaren. At first glance, he seems busy doing good in government, yet beyond the site of everyone else, he will do his best to tempt the younger skywalker to go to the dark side as his use for the older skywalker has ended.

[CaptainCharisma]

:rotflmao: naging Star Wars na dito

[RuckuS]

If the Billions of the backers was the biggest factor, then the dominant teams would have been NU, and UE. MVP, Anton Montinola, Danding Cojuangco, may be rich but not as rich as Lucio Tan and Henry Sy. They are just the highest ranking employees of their companies.

yep i agree with you. that was just my response to somebody who keeps insisting that Ateneo gets all the good players simply because they have an MVP bankrolling money into the program. di nila naiisip that other schools also has their own billionaire benefactors like Lucio Tan and Henry Sy.

[theeng69]

yep i agree with you. that was just my response to somebody who keeps insisting that Ateneo gets all the good players simply because they have an MVP bankrolling money into the program. di nila naiisip that other schools also has their own billionaire benefactors like Lucio Tan and Henry Sy.
actually, although Ateneo's rich guys individually may not be as rich as the Tan's and the Sy's, the quantity of Ateneo's rich guys far exceeds the ones of FEU, UE, NU, etc and can only be contended by La Salle. Bale, hindi lang sila nagpapakita. They work in mysterious ways kung baga.:D

[Milo96]

actually, although Ateneo's rich guys individually may not be as rich as the Tan's and the Sy's, the quantity of Ateneo's rich guys far exceeds the ones of FEU, UE, NU, etc and can only be contended by La Salle. Bale, hindi lang sila nagpapakita. They work in mysterious ways kung baga.:D

I dont quite put a finger on this argument. On 1 hand, you are saying that not as rich but more numerous. On the other hand, it is not the riches that count but the mysterious ways by which they work?

At any rate, I'll try to give my thoughts on it:
1. Ateneo graduates about 1.5k college students a year vs. about 20k from UE, 7.5k from UST, 7k from FEU, 5k from DLSU. If Ateneo ends up with both quantity and quality supporters, then kudos to the Jesuits and their education system.
2. I'm glad you seem to acknowledge that there are other factors other than financial to build a great program. The mystery for most people is actually common knowledge in Ateneo. If you build a prestigious educational system, the student athlete will come. With all things equal, a student athlete would rather get the best education possible. If Ateneo's 1,500 annual graduates gets more than its fair share of the lucrative jobs in their choice of career, then who wouldn't want to study there?

[-jake-]

^This was posted Oct.12, 2007.

Fast Forward to Oct.08, 2009

EPIC FAIL of a prediction.:rotflmao:

Back-to-Back kiddo!

bwahahaha! :lol:

i wonder what school is he from :rolleyes:

[RuckuS]

At any rate, I'll try to give my thoughts on it:
1. Ateneo graduates about 1.5k college students a year vs. about 20k from UE, 7.5k from UST, 7k from FEU, 5k from DLSU. If Ateneo ends up with both quantity and quality supporters, then kudos to the Jesuits and their education system.
2. I'm glad you seem to acknowledge that there are other factors other than financial to build a great program. The mystery for most people is actually common knowledge in Ateneo. If you build a prestigious educational system, the student athlete will come. With all things equal, a student athlete would rather get the best education possible. If Ateneo's 1,500 annual graduates gets more than its fair share of the lucrative jobs in their choice of career, then who wouldn't want to study there?

is that the current rate of graduating Ateneans now? during my time during the mid90's our graduating class was only around 800-900, thats how small a school Ateneo is compared to other Universities. only shows that even now as it was then, Ateneo will always be a close knit community of the few and the proud. *okay*

[vacker]

is that the current rate of graduating Ateneans now? during my time during the mid90's our graduating class was only around 800-900, thats how small a school Ateneo is compared to other Universities. only shows that even now as it was then, Ateneo will always be a close knit community of the few and the proud. *okay*

and where did the poster from whom you quoted get his stats? 5k yearly graduates from dlsu is ridiculous! check your facts please before hallucinating!

it's just like one ateneo student who was trying to "praise" both schools in a letter to the editor but making innuendos about his school's superiority and exclusivity by claiming that ateneo has a population of 10k compared with lasalle's 20k! in fact, the taft campus has a total population of only around 13k and that includes the graduate school, administrators and faculty!

[last.dodo.bird]

Ateneo graduates about 1.5k college students a year vs. about 20k from UE, 7.5k from UST, 7k from FEU, 5k from DLSU.
Source? :hmm:

[haseq]

unlike Ricky Rubio though, he's a "points guard", if he grows pa (hopefully) he'll be a combo guard, capable of playing the point and scoring the lights out, heck he may even be a small forward like Buenafe, I hope the hype machine will translate to a glorious seniors career

The father is above 6 ft. and the mother is 5' 7". It's in his genes to be growing up tall. I'd say if he just grew up to become 6 ft tall, he's kinda short.

But this kid is blessed with good looks. And I'm pretty sure, he's got good breeding. The Thomasian side of the breeding should imbibe him with his religiosity (a deep faith in the Lord) while his Jesuit education should provide him with a deep respect to serve others.

Who says nobody can get everything? This kid has it all.

And with a name like Kiefer which I researched to be of German origin which means barrel maker, he's destined to conquer UAAP in the future. And the world -- who knows? As a future member of the Philippine National Team.

Haaay... I could only imagine all UAAP teams already drooling and scrambling to have him in their roster. Good luck to them! :lol:

[aleatoricwriter]

OT: Well, mas madami talagang population ang La Salle, mas madaming courses eh. I think triple or double of Ateneo's number of courses. Saw that from my friend's DLSU brochure when we were applying for college.

[kapittuko]

Not to spark any kind of "chismis" and sensationalize anything, but... I was just wondering: How well liked is Kiefer amongst his teammates and the Ateneo community? I'm sure that he's liked A LOT since he's an amazing player, although I can't help but wonder if there are people that dislike him as well.

First is that some teammates and supporters could possibly dislike him because they may think he's a ballhog or "bwakaw." Let's face it, he does hold the ball and take the shot a lot of times, especially in such a team-oriented system such as Coach Jamike's. In the last two games of the championship when he was relatively cold, he kept on taking the shot. I'm not calling him a ballhog, but it's not a far stretch of the imagination to think otherwise.

Second is that he seems relatively low profile. All the times I've seen him during games, before games, after games, timeouts & dead-ball situations... parang chill tsaka tahimik lang siya. That gives me the impression that he's either really just a nice, humble & quiet kid; OR, he might not be that personable.

Anyway... yun lang. There is absolutely nothing factual with my conclusions. All of these are just things that I think about. Gusto kong tinitignan yung mga "in between the lines" eh. I hope some people who know more about the team/players could give their .02 about this. Hehe.

Oh, and one last thing: Hiwalay ba yung magulang ni Kiefer? I always see them seated in separate parts of the arena during the Ateneo games...

I'm a batchmate of his and I was his classmate back when he transferred from LaSalle and I'll say that he's not mayabang, he just exudes a lot of confidence. As he should, he has the type of ability people fear.

He gets criticized by people who are knowledgeable about basketball when tries to do too much, but most of the time he is praised because we know what he can do. He is well-liked and is really just a normal, down-to-earth kid that just happens to be good at basketball.

I see him around a lot and I'll say he's around 5'9", 5'10" counting the hair lol. But he's amazingly athletic and quick. He dunked once during an Intrams game last year. Imagine that. A 5'7"/5'8" Sophomore.

[F-22 Raptor]

64 yrs.old na po kayo baka nabawasan yung height ninyo ng 2-3" inches.


Well,it was he himself(Keifer Ravena)who told me that he was 5'11".